I was also caught out -setting up another PC for my daughter starting
university. Checked that I'd set the email up correctly for her, and it was
in the first mail  received  - I hadn't remembered to change lookout's
default config. My virus checker that I'd installed a few days earlier was
out of date! Noticing the problem immediately (it killed the Zone Alarm
firewall), I disconnected, and  used "find" to locate the files with the
same create time as that of the email receipt. I tried to rename the
suspicious files but couldn't -some were in use by windows, so  I then
booted to dos prompt, renamed them, and then did a scanreg /restore to go
back to an older version of the registry.

Then, and only then did I go back online, updated my virus checker, ran it,
(it confirmed that the renamed files contained bugbear), and deleted the
files permanently. Rebooted, and ran the virus checker again -no viruses
found -job done.

One of the reasons that I'm very suspicious of the newer flavours of windows
which suposedly aren't built on DOS is that if windows is using the files
you can't delete them, but if you can't stop windows from using them .... I
think it's only a matter of time before a virus is developed that cannot be
successfully disembedded from Windows short of a full re-install.
Actually, come to think about it, there are several out there already..
Windows 98, Windows Me, ...

Jeremy
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ql-users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Caution- BugBear Virus (from another PC)



First of all sorry for my bad english.
and sorry also for the virus :-(

I use AVG but my database virus was (sic!) out fo date.
My error.
No italian restaurant, mafia connection or other stupid post :-/

Now I've updated the database.
AVG now detect the worm but can't remove it
Any suggestion?

Mr Bergen, antivirus are a good solution for the virus problem but
is there any solution for your idiocy? :-/

Giorgio Garabello



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