On 14 Nov 2002, at 12:12, P Witte wrote:

> 4 - Documentation (including design specs and structures)
> 5 - Support functions (eg the project web)

Yes, though I would not insist too much on 5...

> Both modes of distribution could exist in parallel. There should be no need
> for immediate access to the latest sources for those who only have a casual
> interest, whilst for an active developer this is quite essential.

That doesn't reply to my point, but I do know that you, and others 
think thisis vital.
 

> > Moreover, one of the disadvantages of the website will, of course,
> > be that some control is removed from me (at least that is a
> > disadvantage in my eyes :-)).
> 
> No. You would be in control of all relevant UPloads to the site.

Will that be such a good idea? I can already see people protesting 
that I have too much control over what is happening on the website.



> They will anyway. 

Will they?

> But with a central, open site at least we'll all have the
> chance to see what the results of those discussions are as soon as the
> outcomes have been agreed.
> 
> > NOT saying that this is a bad thing but it will mean that
> > development will be made on a more ad hoc basis. As the software
> > registrar, with a mission to try to keep unified versions where
> > possible (and thus, trying to steer the thing a bit), that must leave
> > me with fixed feelings, of course since my power to influence
> > things will be diminished (if it ever existed). But again, if this serves
> > the community, I have no problems with it
> 
> I think the best you can ever hope for is to have some control over the
> integrity of the sources.
Which I won,'t if you can exchange them that easily. Again, I'm not 
saying this because I want absolute control over the sources, butif I 
don't have any, we can all forget the registrar...

> What facilities and improvements will be developed
> will be entirely up to the interests and abilities of the people involved.

True - but then again, if I'm thje central hub, I *might* be able to 
push development more in one (common) direction.


> At present there is virtually no control over who legal users are. If a
> reseller went down, or if there was a corrupt reseller (God forbid!) there
> is currently no way of knowing. 

So? I mean, tough luck.

> My proposal is that each user license
> would come with its own serial number that the customer could use to
> register with the database to allow free upgrade downloads or support
> entitlement.
NO!
I want to keep the commercial side and the development side 
TOTALLY separate.
I may be responsible as software registrar to get the binaries to the 
resellers - but the relation between them and the users is NONE of 
my concern, and it shouldn't be.
Support must be handled by the people who sold you your 
SMSQ/E.
Of cxourse, if a bug is discovered, I think veryone will try to correct 
it, but there is a difference between that and the support supplied 
by the resellers!


> Registration on the project web by users would, of course,
> be entirely voluntary. There is no privacy issue involved here, as the
> serial number only pertains to the user license. Obviously, if someone
> tried to register an invalid serial number, or one that is already in use,
> that would need to be investigated.
That would mean nmuch too much work for something which 
doesn't even concern us.


> Absolutely. This is your domain ;)

Yes, and I try - but,as just about everyone will tell you, testing 
must be done by more than one person!

(...)

Wolfgang

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