On 11 May 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:24:38AM -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> John Levine wrote in news.gmane.org:gmane.mail.qmail.general:
>> 
>> "I hear good things about a simple anti-spam technique that simply delays
>> the initial SMTP banner and looks to see if there's input.  A real SMTP
>> client will wait for the banner and only sends ahead after being invited
>> to do so when it sees the pipeline resposne to EHLO.  Spamware just blasts
>> away.  It rejects vast amounts of spam with negligible false positives.
>> Different people use different delays.  Some use five seconds or so,
>> others do 60 to 90 seconds, with a whitelist for hosts it's seen before.
>> 
>> I looked through the archive and I didn't see anyone doing this with
>> qmail.  So before I hack it up myself, is anyone doing this with qmail?
> 
> I know this isn't really what you're asking about, but qpsmtpd 
> (http://smtpd.develooper.org) is a drop-in replacement for qmail-smtpd
> and has supported this for about a year, as well as lots of other leading
> edge anti-spam stuff. I'm using it with a couple of qmail-ldap instances,
> and they play together beautifully, so it might a useful alternative for
> some people.

I looked at qpsmtpd; my Perl experience would make it a natural fit
for the mail servers I support.  The problem, when I checked, was that
STARTTLS was not supported, and I need that at my site.  Has that
changed?

The thread at

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg01411.html

concluded that I should use stunnel.  I don't want to use stunnel.
I've had bad experiences with it, it's a resource drain, and I don't
want to run it for every SMTP connection even if STARTTLS is not
required.

I supposed I could implement STARTTLS myself.  I don't really have the
time to do that currently.

Ted

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