qmail Digest 9 Feb 1999 11:00:14 -0000 Issue 546
Topics (messages 21652 through 21708):
pop3d X-UIDL and Status patches
21652 by: Jay Soffian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21666 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Safely archiving logs
21653 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21660 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21662 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lorens Kockum)
21694 by: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21702 by: Bruce Guenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21704 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21707 by: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Three solutions for spam
21654 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
21655 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
21656 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
21670 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
21679 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
21682 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"solutions for spam"
21657 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maildir format and IMAP servers
21658 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Using multiple IP addresses
21659 by: Peter Gradwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21683 by: Richard Letts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21686 by: Markus Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
var-qmail
21661 by: Peter Haworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Virtual user
21663 by: hotdog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21664 by: Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
server error?
21665 by: Franky Van Liedekerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21667 by: "Petr Novotny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21668 by: Van Liedekerke Franky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21669 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21680 by: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Spaces in e-mail addresses
21671 by: Matt Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21672 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21673 by: Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21674 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Naden)
21675 by: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21676 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21677 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21685 by: "Scott D. Yelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21695 by: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Qmail-Imap.
21678 by: Michael Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Entire domain w/ .qmail
21681 by: "Robert Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
solutions for spam & my views.
21684 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From sendmail to Qmail
21687 by: "Robert Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21688 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21689 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21690 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mirko Zeibig)
Tarpitting patch
21691 by: "Joe Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Connection problems.
21692 by: "Reid Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21693 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21698 by: "Reid Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21699 by: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
multiple rblsmtpd instances
21696 by: Matt Schnierle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21697 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A few minor problems
21700 by: Mark Bitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21701 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
virtualdomains
21703 by: Franky Van Liedekerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21706 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hylafax with qmail
21705 by: Chris Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21708 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Why was this patch:
http://homepages.munich.netsurf.de/Franz.Sirl/qmail-pop3d-1.03.diff
which adds support for spitting out X-UIDL and Status headers removed
from www.qmail.org?
I'm considering applying the patch if it helps out Eudora and Netscape
with keeping track of read mail. I'm wondering if it was dropped by
accident or if there is something fundamentally wrong with the patch.
Thanks.
j.
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Jay Soffian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> UNIX Systems Administrator
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Jay Soffian writes:
>
> Why was this patch:
>
> http://homepages.munich.netsurf.de/Franz.Sirl/qmail-pop3d-1.03.diff
>
> which adds support for spitting out X-UIDL and Status headers removed
> from www.qmail.org?
Don't remember why. It's back there.
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On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 11:16:35AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote:
> You may have to change some path names. Also, note that this job
> keeps the last 10 log files uncompressed, for ease in checking the
> lateste logs. I run cyclog with the arguments -s304000 -n30; you may
> have to adjust these parameters. With a setup like this, there is
> always a risk of losing log information if activity suddenly
> skyrockets.
I've actually been wondering about this for some time now: With syslog and
nightly log rotation, we always have at least 7 days (or whatever is the
rotational cycle) worth of logs to look at. Often this is useful if we want
to track messages a few days old. With cyclog, if there is a lot of
activity suddenly, we may end up with logs a couple of days old. Has anyone
worked out a scheme of making sure that cyclog's logs are kept for at least
x number of days? What would be nice is if cyclog had some way of signaling
to us that it had rotated a log, and we could save that away in a
directory. We could then have a cron job cleaning this directory to remove
log files more than x days old. This way, cyclog can rotate logs as quickly
as it likes, but we control when they are removed.
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Anand Buddhdev writes:
> What would be nice is if cyclog had some way of signaling to us
> that it had rotated a log, and we could save that away in a
> directory.
Yes, wouldn't it be nice if cyclog had another parameter, like this:
cyclog: usage: cyclog [ -ssize ] [ -nnum ] [ -mmargin ] dir program
where ``program'' gets called with an additional argument which is the
name of the file cyclog has just ceased writing to.
> We could then have a cron job cleaning this directory to remove log
> files more than x days old. This way, cyclog can rotate logs as
> quickly as it likes, but we control when they are removed.
Of course, that breaks cyclog's guarantee of never filling your disk.
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On the qmail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 11:16:35AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote:
>
>> You may have to change some path names. Also, note that this job
>> keeps the last 10 log files uncompressed, for ease in checking the
>> lateste logs. I run cyclog with the arguments -s304000 -n30; you may
>> have to adjust these parameters.
>
>I've actually been wondering about this for some time now: With syslog and
>nightly log rotation, we always have at least 7 days (or whatever is the
>rotational cycle) worth of logs to look at. Often this is useful if we want
>to track messages a few days old. With cyclog, if there is a lot of
>activity suddenly, we may end up with logs a couple of days old. Has anyone
I am not familiar with cyclog; Debian has a script called
savelog, which I had supposed does about the same thing.
^^^ (I'm not so sure anymore)
What I do is that in my cron script, run once a day (or once a
week, whatever, replace below), I test if the size of the log
file over a certain limit (x kB), and if it is I run the script
(for n cycles).
That means that the minimum days of logs is n, since logs are
not rotated faster than that, and the maximum size of logs is
((x+m)*2) kB + gzip((x+m)*(n-2) kB)), where m is the (unknown)
maximum size of one day of logs.
Good enough for me, but of course YMMV.
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Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, wouldn't it be nice if cyclog had another parameter, like this:
> cyclog: usage: cyclog [ -ssize ] [ -nnum ] [ -mmargin ] dir program
> where ``program'' gets called with an additional argument which is the
> name of the file cyclog has just ceased writing to.
It certainly would. I'd use that myself.
>> We could then have a cron job cleaning this directory to remove log
>> files more than x days old. This way, cyclog can rotate logs as quickly
>> as it likes, but we control when they are removed.
> Of course, that breaks cyclog's guarantee of never filling your disk.
There are cases where I'd rather fill the disk than lose logs. And
predictable log rotation is actually something I'd rather like to have for
a lot of things. I've wanted cyclog to be able to rotate on a time
interval rather than on a size limit for a while, but I do realize that
it's unlikely to happen since it's rather far away from the intended
purpose of cyclog.
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On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 01:26:26PM -0000, Russell Nelson wrote:
> > What would be nice is if cyclog had some way of signaling to us
> > that it had rotated a log, and we could save that away in a
> > directory.
>
> Yes, wouldn't it be nice if cyclog had another parameter, like this:
>
> cyclog: usage: cyclog [ -ssize ] [ -nnum ] [ -mmargin ] dir program
>
> where ``program'' gets called with an additional argument which is the
> name of the file cyclog has just ceased writing to.
It does if you add the patch I wrote ages ago for it :-) See:
http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~bguenter/distrib/daemontools/cyclog-command.patch
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- Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| There are cases where I'd rather fill the disk than lose logs. And
| predictable log rotation is actually something I'd rather like to
| have for a lot of things. I've wanted cyclog to be able to rotate
| on a time interval rather than on a size limit for a while, but I do
| realize that it's unlikely to happen since it's rather far away from
| the intended purpose of cyclog.
Easy: Give cyclog such a large limit on the file size and the number
of files that it is sure to fill the disk before hitting its own
limit. Then run a cron job to rotate the logs. What could be
simpler? Just make sure the file size limit is not too large, since
there must be some finished log files for the log rotater to rotate.
- Harald
Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> | There are cases where I'd rather fill the disk than lose logs. And
> | predictable log rotation is actually something I'd rather like to
> | have for a lot of things. I've wanted cyclog to be able to rotate
> | on a time interval rather than on a size limit for a while, but I do
> | realize that it's unlikely to happen since it's rather far away from
> | the intended purpose of cyclog.
> Easy: Give cyclog such a large limit on the file size and the number
> of files that it is sure to fill the disk before hitting its own
> limit. Then run a cron job to rotate the logs.
Er... how exactly is that going to work? I want to rotate the logs on a
daily (or weekly, perhaps) basis at precisely the same time each day so
that I don't have to spend a lot of time or thought on getting consistent
time intervals for statistics. How do I tell cyclog to stop writing to
one log and start writing to a new one?
As far as I can tell from the cyclog documentation, it doesn't support
being sent a HUP to rebind to a new file the way syslogd does, and I can't
just kill and restart it because it's part of a pipe.
> Just make sure the file size limit is not too large, since there must be
> some finished log files for the log rotater to rotate.
Or is your suggestion to set cyclog's file size limit low enough that it
will rotate logs at least once a day and for the log rotator to patch
together daily log files from cyclog's old logs? I suppose that would
work, come to think of it....
Hm. Maybe I'll do that. Unfortunately, on some hosts, that's a really
small log size limit.
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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Mike Holling wrote:
> > > Can u define anonymous?? (something that doesn't isn't reversed resolved?)
> >
> > Yes I can. If there is no reverse name, that is anonymous. Also, if there
> > is a reverse name, but it has a generic pattern with number sequences and
> > does not identify any particular domain other than the ISP, then that, too,
> > is anonymous.
>
> Just as I've feared, someone has already made the leap from "known analog
> dialup pool" to "anything that looks like a dialup pool". This includes
> ADSL and cablemodem pools as well.
It really doesn't matter, does it? as long as you stopped some spam, the
battle was been won. (even if in the process, u haven't received a lot of
legitimate mail)
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On 7 Feb 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Why we are having this discussion? probably because some people, like to
> > categorize people who send mail through dial up as spammers.
>
> No, it's just the the reasons I hear for allowing mail from dialups
> are all specious. If you want to send mail from a dialup, relay it
> through a reliable host. If this does not describe your ISP, then
That is (one of) the question(s), i think i can deliver mail much reliable
on my own.
> find a different host to relay the mail through.
Do u have a cellular phone? why because people can contact you faster? why
not having only an answering machine? i will be contacted eventually. :-)
> Tiago, this discussion is tiresome. Your precious dialups are going
> to be blocked if they are used to spam, period. It's a done deal; get
> used to it. Accept that it is going to happen, and adjust your
> expectations.
Ah. But _that_ is a different thing from what we have been discussing. I
would be blocked because _someone_ abused my pool of addresses. NOT
because i use a pool dynamic addresses and therefore i'm guilty of
spamming. It's a totally different matter, isn't it?
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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Why we are having this discussion? probably because some people, like to
> > > > categorize people who send mail through dial up as spammers.
> > >
> > > It's not a case of categorizing. The problem is that those who do send
> > > mail directly from a dialup cannot be _distinguished_ from a spammer.
> >
> > Then why should they be automatically labelled as spammers? Also, people
> > who send mail through relays cannot be distinguished from spammers also.
>
> Read what I said. That is the answer to your question. What you need
> to do is make your network connection somehow look different than what a
> spammer appears to look like. If you are standing in a crowd of spammers,
> and you wear the same clothes that all the spammers wear, and you have
> the same hat as all the spammers have, and you grin the same way that all
> the spammers grin, then how are we to know you are not a spammer? You need
> to make yourself distinguishable from spammers. That's your responsibility
> regardless whether your ISP or government makes it hard for you.
That's not the problem here. The problem here, is that i have clothes
that bear _some_ resemblances to _some_ spammers, and since you are too
distant to see it clearly, you automatically tell i'm a spammer. You shoot
first, than you check if the suspect was guilty.
> > > It's not an issue of whether or not it is a dialup. It is an issue of
> > > whether or not it is an address with a generic or anonymous name associated
> > > with it, which dialup ports generally have. By getting a fixed address
> >
> > Can u define anonymous?? (something that doesn't isn't reversed resolved?)
>
> Yes I can. If there is no reverse name, that is anonymous. Also, if there
> is a reverse name, but it has a generic pattern with number sequences and
patterns lile what? Like room-12-2.* ?? or lab12-123 ?
> does not identify any particular domain other than the ISP, then that, too,
> is anonymous.
??? domains like companyA.domain are not acceptable?
> > > with a real name (even a 3rd level domain name is fine) and real MX records,
> > > then it won't look like what we have been referring to as "dialup".
> >
> > I don't understand also,why they should have MX records also.
>
> If you register a domain and have the network address number reverse resolve
> to that name, then it will not appear anonymous and will distinguish you
> from the spammers. If a spammer does the same thing, you will still be
> distinguished from the spammer because the domain names are different.
I asked about MX records. Not domain names,
> MX records are another level of showing a degree of authenticity. It is
> not perfect, but it raises the probability (at least for the time being)
> that the host name is not the source of a spammer.
A lot of legitimate hosts don't have MX records.
> > > And if it takes political changes in your country to allow that to happen,
> > > then that's what you'll need to do. My guess, however, is that perhaps it
> > > can be expedited by contacting the right people and simply getting some
> > > technical competency in place at the levels where management decisions are
> > > being made.
> >
> > Isn't that a bit little lyrical?
>
> I live in Texas. It's not practical for me to go there to persuade them to
> correct their operational procedures to allow you the means to make yourself
> appear on the internet as not a spammer. You live there, speak the language,
I don't appear to be a spammer, i do appear to be a spammer to _some_
people. That's what we are arguing, the criteria those people apply to
identify a spammer.
> > > In the mean time, the rest of the world is not going to wait for you to
> > > catch up.
> >
> > As long as they are reasonable, i don't see any reason to. :-)
>
> The world is moving along with the intent to leave spammers behind. If you
> don't catch up, you'll be behind there with the spammers. It's not where I
> would want to be.
It hasn't been a problem so far.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 7 February 1999 at 20:35:40
+0100
> On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > Why we are having this discussion? probably because some people, like to
> > > categorize people who send mail through dial up as spammers.
> >
> > It's not a case of categorizing. The problem is that those who do send
> > mail directly from a dialup cannot be _distinguished_ from a spammer.
>
> Then why should they be automatically labelled as spammers? Also, people
> who send mail through relays cannot be distinguished from spammers also.
Right, and people are blocking systems known to be open relays, too.
See the pattern?
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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 7 February 1999 at
>20:35:40 +0100
> > On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > > Why we are having this discussion? probably because some people, like to
> > > > categorize people who send mail through dial up as spammers.
> > >
> > > It's not a case of categorizing. The problem is that those who do send
> > > mail directly from a dialup cannot be _distinguished_ from a spammer.
> >
> > Then why should they be automatically labelled as spammers? Also, people
> > who send mail through relays cannot be distinguished from spammers also.
>
> Right, and people are blocking systems known to be open relays, too.
> See the pattern?
I do, and i tend to agree with them. But they block it _after_ they are
spammed. But what i've seen, is people advocating that dial up's be
blocked, before then even have been used for spamming. After they have
been used, fine with me, block them, not before.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 8 February 1999 at 16:11:54
+0100
> On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 7 February 1999 at
>20:35:40 +0100
> > > On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Why we are having this discussion? probably because some people, like to
> > > > > categorize people who send mail through dial up as spammers.
> > > >
> > > > It's not a case of categorizing. The problem is that those who do send
> > > > mail directly from a dialup cannot be _distinguished_ from a spammer.
> > >
> > > Then why should they be automatically labelled as spammers? Also, people
> > > who send mail through relays cannot be distinguished from spammers also.
> >
> > Right, and people are blocking systems known to be open relays, too.
> > See the pattern?
>
> I do, and i tend to agree with them. But they block it _after_ they are
> spammed. But what i've seen, is people advocating that dial up's be
> blocked, before then even have been used for spamming. After they have
> been used, fine with me, block them, not before.
And people are saying they block dialup blocks after they've been
spammed from them, too. And on the other side, ORBS is listing open
relays, not just ones that have been verified as spam sources. Right
or wrong, I think the actions are consistent throughout.
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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > is 99% of the market demaning that mail from dial-ups is to be disallowed?
> > :-)
>
> In effect, yes. 99.9% of the market is demanding that their mailbox not be
> filled up with spam. Most spam has been coming by way of mail amplified by
The market is demanding not to be bombed with spam, not to not receive
mail from dialups. At least the way i see it.
> > Nope. ist.utl.pt (check www.ist.utl.pt). And not they are not an ISP. They
> > are a university, i use this service because i need fast access to local
> > machines, and yes they also happen to provide internet access.
>
> Why don't you go show them how to fix their mail server?
It's not broken, it's just that, i fits better my needs if i deliver mail
directly.
> > Send me your address, and i will send u my bills. :-)
>
> Send me the price list for the competition, first.
There is no competition, since i'm not considering hiring your services
nor anyone elses. Anyway, i would _never_ hire the services of someone,
who considered a policy of rejecting mail address to me, that i consider
legitimate and they don't. (i tend to dislike people, who think they know
best in behalf of others) I much prefer to get some spam, than to lose
some legitimate mail.
> > should i go a great extent of trouble (not to mean expenses) to deliver
> > mail to _some_ people,which find my ways of delivering mail inadequate?
>
> It looks like this is going to be the case, all because of spammers.
I will deal with that problem, when the moment arrives.
> Keep in mind that if the spammers start to use real domain named servers,
> we can block them individually by their names. Some actually do this now
> (and I actually cut them off when I get spam from them). If you get your
> own domain name (some name within ist.utl.pt perhaps, or register a domain
> of your own in .pt or .com) and associate that name with a fixed IP address
Individual people can't register .pt domains. And even if i had a fixed
domain, no ISP here offers a fixed IP address. (at least not without
paying _huge_ amounts of money)
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������� ������������ writes:
> Ok then the question that comes to me is whether qmail-pop3d can support
> Mailbox format and how...
No, it cannot. It takes good advantage of the Maildir format, and
would take a considerable amount of work to port it to Mailbox format.
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At 1:16 pm -0600 7/2/99,the wonderful [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>As long as qmail will listen to any IP address on the machine, then it's
>just a matter of appropriate MX's to get certain domains to go to certain
>addresses, and routing to get certain addresses to go to certain interfaces.
>
>Why would qmail not listen on all interfaces?
ok, so it's listening on all interfaces, but it still pumps the mail out again on the
'first'
ethernet device/ip address.
Any way to get it to make the mail go in and out on the same device/ip ?
Thanks
Peter.
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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Peter Gradwell wrote:
> Even more brilliant would be to bind qmail to a different virtual
> device, because then I could create a bandwidth limited virtual ethernet
> card and run mailing lists on there, whilst allowing other services full
> bandwidth.
>
> How anyone have any experience of telling qmail which ip address /
> device to listen and operate on?
incoming you can run multiple tcpservers -- the first argument is the IP
address it's to listen on, so you would run one for each virtual domain.
this would allow you to split incoming email into the right domains.
outgoing is more tricky. for that I think you're going to have to patch
qmail-remote (around line 415 in qmail-remote.c) to bind to a specific ip
address when sending mail or it will bind to '0' and the kernel will pick
the first ip address on the system.
Richard
Richard Letts wrote:
>
> On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Peter Gradwell wrote:
>
> > Even more brilliant would be to bind qmail to a different virtual
> > device, because then I could create a bandwidth limited virtual ethernet
> > card and run mailing lists on there, whilst allowing other services full
> > bandwidth.
> >
> > How anyone have any experience of telling qmail which ip address /
> > device to listen and operate on?
>
> incoming you can run multiple tcpservers -- the first argument is the IP
> address it's to listen on, so you would run one for each virtual domain.
> this would allow you to split incoming email into the right domains.
>
> outgoing is more tricky. for that I think you're going to have to patch
> qmail-remote (around line 415 in qmail-remote.c) to bind to a specific ip
> address when sending mail or it will bind to '0' and the kernel will pick
> the first ip address on the system.
>
> Richard
Check out http://people.iqweb.de/qmail/local-bind.
Markus
John White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think it would be really nice if Red Hat could guarantee a certain
> > subset of the UID space available to packages like this that need
> > predefined UIDs.
>
> Already proposed. Already shot down.
Shame. Debian already include qmail users/groups in their default config, but I
guess it's too late for RedHat.
--
Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
``Future versions of perl will have code names, and the theme is "The Perfect
Numbers." Hence, the code name for Perl 5.005 is "Perl Six". Perl 5.006
will be known as "Perl Twenty-Eight", Perl 5.007 will be "Perl Four Hundred
and Ninety-Six", and so on.'' -- michael gebis
In the normal way,qmail use system user as its user,in other way,
if there is a system user named abc,then he'll automatically get a
email accont abc@domain; if you want to create a email test@domain,
you must create a system user test.
But you know,system accont will cause many sceurity problem.So I
want to not create system accont for the email only user.but the
books and faq of qmail have no this ....
Would you please tell me how can I do ?
Thanks.
Reai
On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 10:26:19PM +0800, hotdog wrote:
> In the normal way,qmail use system user as its user,in other way,
> if there is a system user named abc,then he'll automatically get a
> email accont abc@domain; if you want to create a email test@domain,
> you must create a system user test.
> But you know,system accont will cause many sceurity problem.So I
> want to not create system accont for the email only user.but the
> books and faq of qmail have no this ....
> Would you please tell me how can I do ?
Try this URL: http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.txt
Chris
When I try to get something from
koobera.math.uic.edu (for ex. the serialmail package)
I always get:
Ftp Error
Description: Unspecified Reply
Anybody can do something about this?
> When I try to get something from
>
> koobera.math.uic.edu (for ex. the serialmail package)
>
> I always get:
>
> Ftp Error
>
>
> Description: Unspecified Reply
>
> Anybody can do something about this?
You have to use a command line ftp client, go through squid or
something; the problem is that the ftp server uses some strange kind
of directory listing and most of the clients which parse the listing
fail miserably... :-(
--
Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
[Tom Waits]
I didn't have any problem with it before and I'm using the same client for 5
months now (netscape). I just noticed this behaviour today.
> ----------
> From: Petr Novotny[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 4:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: server error?
>
> > When I try to get something from
> >
> > koobera.math.uic.edu (for ex. the serialmail package)
> >
> > I always get:
> >
> > Ftp Error
> >
> >
> > Description: Unspecified Reply
> >
> > Anybody can do something about this?
>
> You have to use a command line ftp client, go through squid or
> something; the problem is that the ftp server uses some strange kind
> of directory listing and most of the clients which parse the listing
> fail miserably... :-(
> --
> Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.antek.cz
> -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
> [Tom Waits]
>
Petr Novotny writes:
> > When I try to get something from
> >
> > koobera.math.uic.edu (for ex. the serialmail package)
> >
> > I always get:
> >
> > Ftp Error
> >
> >
> > Description: Unspecified Reply
> >
> > Anybody can do something about this?
>
> You have to use a command line ftp client, go through squid or
> something; the problem is that the ftp server uses some strange kind
> of directory listing and most of the clients which parse the listing
> fail miserably... :-(
Yes, koobera uses EPLF (Easily Parsed Listing Format -- and it really
is). I've got a mirror of koobera at ftp://ftp.qmail.org/pub/koobera.
--
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On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 03:50:25PM +0000, Petr Novotny wrote:
> > When I try to get something from
> >
> > koobera.math.uic.edu (for ex. the serialmail package)
> >
> > I always get:
> >
> > Ftp Error
> >
> >
> > Description: Unspecified Reply
> >
> > Anybody can do something about this?
>
> You have to use a command line ftp client, go through squid or
> something; the problem is that the ftp server uses some strange kind
> of directory listing and most of the clients which parse the listing
> fail miserably... :-(
Or use lynx---works perfectly.
--
---
Mate Wierdl | Dept. of Math. Sciences | University of Memphis
Right off the bat, let me admit that I haven't yet read RFC 822. Evidently,
neither had the authors of World Group Server at Gallacticomm. I have three
e-mail users who have spaces in their e-mail addresses, and now I'me trying to
get them up and running with a minimum of disruption. What's the best method
for allowing spaces in usernames in e-mail addresses?
--
Matt Garrett, Network Engineer
Superior Open Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matt Garrett writes:
> Right off the bat, let me admit that I haven't yet read RFC 822. Evidently,
> neither had the authors of World Group Server at Gallacticomm. I have three
> e-mail users who have spaces in their e-mail addresses, and now I'me trying to
> get them up and running with a minimum of disruption. What's the best method
> for allowing spaces in usernames in e-mail addresses?
First, let them know that their new username has no spaces in it, and
give them such an account. In ~alias, create a '.qmail-user name'
which has '&username' in it.
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson
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521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
It looks like you can just quote (with ") the local part of the address.
There are going to be broken programs that don't work correctly when replying
to addresses of this sort. I have also seen MTAs that didn't understand
qoutes, but those are usually just a problem when trying to send stuff to
local users of those MTAs.
On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 10:26:04AM +0000,
Matt Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right off the bat, let me admit that I haven't yet read RFC 822. Evidently,
> neither had the authors of World Group Server at Gallacticomm. I have three
> e-mail users who have spaces in their e-mail addresses, and now I'me trying to
> get them up and running with a minimum of disruption. What's the best method
> for allowing spaces in usernames in e-mail addresses?
> --
> Matt Garrett, Network Engineer
> Superior Open Systems
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>First, let them know that their new username has no spaces in it, and
>>give them such an account. In ~alias, create a '.qmail-user name'
>>which has '&username' in it.
>>
>
Correct me if I'm wrong, more clueful people
out there, but will not qmail insert a _ in place
of the whitespace and then get confused? that's
what it did to me, though admitedly not in
the username section.
the other question which comes to mind is can you
create file names with a space in (ie. can you actually
create a file called .qmail-alias-user name?) You can't under
linux, and the only system I can think of where you *can*
is NT, which is a mistake at the best of times...
~Chris
Chris Naden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> the other question which comes to mind is can you
> create file names with a space in (ie. can you actually
> create a file called .qmail-alias-user name?) You can't under
> linux, and the only system I can think of where you *can*
> is NT, which is a mistake at the best of times...
Erm? Under any Unix, try:
touch 'this is a file with spaces in the name'
ls
It's quite feasible to have spaces in a filename under Unix, just not a
recommended practice.
Charles
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Chris Naden writes:
>
> >First, let them know that their new username has no spaces in it, and
> >give them such an account. In ~alias, create a '.qmail-user name'
> >which has '&username' in it.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, more clueful people
> out there, but will not qmail insert a _ in place
> of the whitespace and then get confused? that's
> what it did to me, though admitedly not in
> the username section.
It logs them with an _, but the .qmail file matches the recipient
except that dots are changed into colons.
> the other question which comes to mind is can you
> create file names with a space in (ie. can you actually
> create a file called .qmail-alias-user name?) You can't under
> linux, and the only system I can think of where you *can*
> is NT, which is a mistake at the best of times...
Worked for me.
cho '&nelson' >~alias/.qmail-'foo bar'
[root@desk nelson]# telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 desk.crynwr.com ESMTP
mail <>
250 ok
rcpt <foo bar>
250 ok
data
354 go ahead
From: me
To: you
.
250 ok 918487994 qp 4
quit
221 desk.crynwr.com
Connection closed by foreign host.
[root@desk nelson]#
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Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
- Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| It's quite feasible to have spaces in a filename under Unix, just
| not a recommended practice.
I see them all the time around here. Sometimes lusers have typed text
in the wrong dialogue box, or in the wrong field of one, and files
with all sorts of funny names result. And of course, with an
increasing number of NT users using the unix machine as a file server
we see an increasing number of files with intended white space in
them.
ObMailaddresses: According to RFC 821 and 822, the local-part of an
address may contain any of the 128 ASCII characters, including NUL
(appropriately quoted, of course). Fortunately, no one in the real
world is quite that extreme. I suspect even an embedded newline in
the address will cause havoc with most mailers.
- Harald
> | It's quite feasible to have spaces in a filename under Unix, just
> | not a recommended practice.
> ObMailaddresses: According to RFC 821 and 822, the local-part of an
> address may contain any of the 128 ASCII characters, including NUL
> (appropriately quoted, of course). Fortunately, no one in the real
> world is quite that extreme. I suspect even an embedded newline in
> the address will cause havoc with most mailers.
Great, my email address is `kill -9 -1`@scottyelich.com. Lets give
this to novice shell users (I'm sure the kiddies can think of
even worse addresses). :-/
I wonder what could be done to make a .qmail alias for an address such
as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't looked it up to see if qmail
is smart about quoting -- but it would be amusing to see a novice try to
get a / into a filename.
Scott
Scott D Yelich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I wonder what could be done to make a .qmail alias for an address such
> as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't looked it up to see if qmail
> is smart about quoting -- but it would be amusing to see a novice try to
> get a / into a filename.
Why would qmail need to quote that? It would look it up in the passwd
file or in qmail-users and find the right place to deliver it. If the /
ends up in the part that determines the qmail file name, like if it's
delivered to ~alias, it does exactly what you'd expect and looks for a
file named "address" in the directory ~alias/.qmail-my.
It's possible to use this to great effect to avoid having too many files
in the same directory and to more logically organize things. Since qmail
converts periods to colons, there's really no security problem with it.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
Hey Guys,
Well....I finally got Maildir working thanks to suggestions from the
list. Now, I'm having another problem. I use a couple of different
Web-Based Imap clients to allow my users to read/send mail. I've used
IMP (http://imp.horde.org), and I am presently using Maple
(http://screwdriver.net/maple), both of which are written in PHP. So,
as soon as I changed over to the Maildir format, I could still send
mail, but couldn't get it. I had no idea what the problem was, so I dug
around a bit in the docs. I found Qmail-Imap and installed it and it
works beautifully. I can now receive mail.
The problem I'm having right now is that I have no folders but Inbox.
Generally, when you use IMAP (at least in my experience), you would have
a folder in a user's home directory called "Mail." Within that
directory, you could have INBOX, TRASH, SENT-MAIL, or whatever you
happen to like. Those, or course, were not actual folders, but files in
the mbox type format. Now that I'm using Maildir, that won't
work....will it?
How can I get folder support for IMAP using the Maildir configuration
with Qmail.
Please pardon me if my logic is incorrect above and politely correct
me. I'm still learning.
Thanks,
Michael
--
Michael Bryan
The Radio Cafe, LLC
http://www.radiocafe.com
Hello all,
If I add a domain to my assign/rcpthosts/virtualdomains and map it to a
users.. is there a way with the .qmail-domainsomething to forward all that
mail another e-mail address?
I was thinking something like:
.qmail-domain:com-default
and putting
&[EMAIL PROTECTED] in it.
-j
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SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc.
Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153
It has been brought to my attention, that i've been ranting on the list
about spam solutions and insulting some people. It _WAS_ never my
intention to do such thing, and if i did it it was totally
unintentionally.
If i insulted someone, i deeply regret it, and apologize to such
person(s). I'm very sorry it was never my intention.
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Politicamente incorrecto, e membro (nao muito) proeminente da geracao rasca.
Hello all,
We just moved our mail server from sendmail to qmail... and I received the
following from one of our users. Anyone have a clue on this?
>A) When I send mail now, it works much faster with being accepted.
>B) But, when I request a return receipt (I use Netscape
>Communicator/Messenger 4.05), it comes back with a message that the SMTP
>server cannot process a return receipt request. Return receipts are one
>of the most useful functions I utilize in my mail..... Can it be turned
>back on?
-jason
---
Robert J. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.siscom.net
Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com
SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc.
Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153
AFAIK, qmail does not do return receipts, which IMHO, are retarded. But :)
that doesnt mean some users dont require/use them. So, someone might have
made a patch for qmail, check out www.qmail.org and search the archives or
read the FAQ?
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Robert Adams wrote:
-|
-| Hello all,
-|
-| We just moved our mail server from sendmail to qmail... and I received the
-| following from one of our users. Anyone have a clue on this?
-|
-|
-|
-| >A) When I send mail now, it works much faster with being accepted.
-|
-| >B) But, when I request a return receipt (I use Netscape
-| >Communicator/Messenger 4.05), it comes back with a message that the SMTP
-| >server cannot process a return receipt request. Return receipts are one
-| >of the most useful functions I utilize in my mail..... Can it be turned
-| >back on?
-|
-|
-| -jason
-| ---
-| Robert J. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.siscom.net
-| Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com
-| SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc.
-| Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153
-|
-|
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Robert Adams writes:
>
> Hello all,
>
> We just moved our mail server from sendmail to qmail... and I received the
> following from one of our users. Anyone have a clue on this?
>
>
>
> >A) When I send mail now, it works much faster with being accepted.
>
> >B) But, when I request a return receipt (I use Netscape
> >Communicator/Messenger 4.05), it comes back with a message that the SMTP
> >server cannot process a return receipt request. Return receipts are one
> >of the most useful functions I utilize in my mail..... Can it be turned
> >back on?
No clue is required. Qmail simply does not support DSN, a.k.a. "return
receipt".
--
Sam
On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:57:47 GMT, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert Adams writes:
>> Hello all,
>> We just moved our mail server from sendmail to qmail... and I received the
>> following from one of our users. Anyone have a clue on this?
>> [...]
>> >B) But, when I request a return receipt (I use Netscape
>> >Communicator/Messenger 4.05), it comes back with a message that the SMTP
>> >server cannot process a return receipt request. Return receipts are one
>> >of the most useful functions I utilize in my mail..... Can it be turned
>> >back on?
>
>No clue is required. Qmail simply does not support DSN, a.k.a. "return
>receipt".
What Robert's users may be able to do (and which is IMHO more interesting)
is a return receipt when the receipient has read the mail. However this is a
function of the MDA, so with the receipient having NS this will work,
whereas most text oriented MDAs won't.
At least NS4.5 will act like this.
Regards
Mirko
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be aware of culture www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~etcetera
I have some code that does tarpitting, but this is very sad to say, I have
never created a patch before, and I don't know how to do it. I just can't
get diff to do things right, someone want to help me.
Everytime I connect to port 25 on my qmail server it closes. All my
processes are running. Everything looks fine in my inetd.conf file. I'm not
sure what the problem is. Any ideas?
Reid Sutherland
Network Administrator
ISYS Technology Inc.
http://www.isys.ca
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Reid Sutherland wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> Everytime I connect to port 25 on my qmail server it closes. All my
> processes are running. Everything looks fine in my inetd.conf file. I'm
> not sure what the problem is. Any ideas?
What does the "smtp" line in inetd.conf actually look like?
Is there anything in the logs?
Stefan
The exact line in my inetd.conf is from the INSTALL file in qmail 1.03
tarball.
I've got Linux 2.2.1.
I got a connection closed from a telnet.
I have things setup in hosts.allow and deny but I allow localhost.
I ran config to make my rcpthosts and such.
Everything seems ok to me. :/ I'm not new either. Maybe I'm just
"overlooking" something :)
Thanks.
Reid Sutherland
Network Administrator
ISYS Technology Inc.
http://www.isys.ca
Fingerprint: 1683 001F A573 B6DF A074 0C96 DBE0 A070 28BE EEA5
-----Original Message-----
From: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Reid Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: Connection problems.
>On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 08:14:21PM -0500, Reid Sutherland wrote:
>> Everytime I connect to port 25 on my qmail server it closes. All my
>> processes are running. Everything looks fine in my inetd.conf file. I'm
not
>> sure what the problem is. Any ideas?
>
>What is *exactly* the command in inetd.conf? What is your system (OS)?
>What error do you get when port 25 closes? Do you have anything set up in
>hosts.allow/deny? What is in control/rcpthosts?
>
>--
>---
>Mate Wierdl | Dept. of Math. Sciences | University of Memphis
On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 10:30:51PM -0500, Reid Sutherland wrote:
> The exact line in my inetd.conf is from the INSTALL file in qmail 1.03
> tarball.
> I've got Linux 2.2.1.
> I got a connection closed from a telnet.
> I have things setup in hosts.allow and deny but I allow localhost.
> I ran config to make my rcpthosts and such.
>
> Everything seems ok to me. :/ I'm not new either. Maybe I'm just
> "overlooking" something :)
>
That is the point. I f you do not show, we do not see.
Mate
Is is possible to run multiple rblsmtpd instances in front of one another?
We use both the maps RBL and the maps DUL on our remaining sendmail box, and
I need to verify that this can be done for the process of phasing in qmail.
I'm guessing that I can just daisychain the rblsmptd instances in front of
one another. Is this possible, and what in blazes would the syntax look
like?
TIA.
--Matt Schnierle
--mgs at stargate dot net
--Stargate Industries, LLC
--#include <std/disclaimer.h>
--"It's not that simple."
Nothing like helping out the competition. :)
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Matt Schnierle wrote:
> Is is possible to run multiple rblsmtpd instances in front of one another?
> We use both the maps RBL and the maps DUL on our remaining sendmail box, and
> I need to verify that this can be done for the process of phasing in qmail.
>
> I'm guessing that I can just daisychain the rblsmptd instances in front of
> one another. Is this possible, and what in blazes would the syntax look
> like?
>
> TIA.
>
Yes you can and should daisy chain them.
rblsmtpd -r dul.maps.vix.com rblsmtpd smtpd ....
I use DJB's daemontools and ucspi-tcp packages so the invocation for me
is:
supervise /var/run/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -x
/etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smtpd.cdb -v -u???? -g???? 0 smtp rblsmtpd -r
dul.maps.vix.com rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | accustamp | setuser qmaill
cyclog /var/adm/smtpd &
(All on one line of course) :)
This also assumes that the commands are in the path when the above is
executed, otherwise you can specify the full paths.
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Senior Systems Manager
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
I have qmail running with qpopper, the Maildir stuff works fine, but
.qmail-default in ~/alias doesn't seem to work right.
/home/randy/Maildir/ should stuff the mail in randy's Maildir, all I get
is a delivery deferred can't chdir error in the logs, but
&[EMAIL PROTECTED] works. I doublechecked, randy owns /home/randy and
everything in it, so what did I screw up?.
Another question - do I put .qmail-fakename files in ~/alias to do
redirects? Several users have multiple mail ids and want them to all
end up in one mailbox.
Finally, with tcpserver running, pine gets lost in deep space, I have to
open another VC to kill it. Is there a fix for that, or should I find
another mail program?
Thanks,
mark Bitting
Mark Bitting writes:
> I have qmail running with qpopper, the Maildir stuff works fine, but
> .qmail-default in ~/alias doesn't seem to work right.
> /home/randy/Maildir/ should stuff the mail in randy's Maildir, all I get
> is a delivery deferred can't chdir error in the logs, but
Unless alias owns /home/randy/Maildir/, it's going to have a rather
difficult time delivering there.
> &[EMAIL PROTECTED] works. I doublechecked, randy owns /home/randy and
> everything in it, so what did I screw up?.
The fact that alias is just another userid, no different than anything else
except for the fact that it gets everything that doesn't go anywhere else.
Put &[EMAIL PROTECTED] into ~/alias/.qmail-default instead. Better karma.
> Another question - do I put .qmail-fakename files in ~/alias to do
> redirects? Several users have multiple mail ids and want them to all
> end up in one mailbox.
Correct.
> Finally, with tcpserver running, pine gets lost in deep space, I have to
> open another VC to kill it. Is there a fix for that, or should I find
> another mail program?
Put sendmail-path=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject into your pine.conf.fixed
--
Sam
Hi,
(I don't in which list to post it, so I do it in both)
some days ago, I mailed a problem about an failure notice that was
incomplete. Now I can reproduce this:
put in virtualdomains:
some.domain.com:alias-user
en in ~alias, create .qmail-user (not .qmail-user-default) with content:
&some.user.com
Now, when I mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it goes checking for
.qmail-user-test and .qmail-user-default (and .qmail-default). When none
of these are found, it bounces back with an error:
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hercules.telenet-ops.be.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
But now, it doesn't give me my message I sent!
Is this standard behaviour or is it caused by the LDAP patch? Or do I
have to specify the
errocode in .qmail-default?
- Franky Van Liedekerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
|
| But now, it doesn't give me my message I sent!
| Is this standard behaviour
No.
| or is it caused by the LDAP patch?
Probably. Note that the LDAP patch is beta; the web page says
Note: This is really beta- or even alpha works. You should have very
good knowledge of qmail, LDAP, C debugging and programming.
and a brief look at the patch reveals that it does seem to modify the
bounce message. Therefore, I believe the question belongs on the
qmail-ldap list and not on the general qmail list. (Respondents on the
qmail-ldap list, please confine your responses to that list unless you
discover that this really is a general qmail issue.)
| Or do I have to specify the errocode in .qmail-default?
Not unless the patch is more invasive than I think.
- Harald
Hi,
Has anyone managed to get qmail working with hylafax, i've previously
done this with sendmail.
Basically i had a mailertable entry that had .fax.domain.co.uk that
passed it to the fax mailer entry in sendmail.cf (which in turn passed
it to a script that invoked hylafax to send the fax down a modem).
Any help appriated or other surgestions.
Regards,
Chris.
Chris Bond wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> Has anyone managed to get qmail working with hylafax, i've previously
> done this with sendmail.
I created a virtualdomain (fax.WRonline.de) pointing to alias-fax.
In ~alias/.qmail-fax-default I have (on one line):
| /usr/local/bin/faxmail -n | /usr/local/bin/sendfax -n -D -s a4 -f
"$SENDER" -d "$EXT2"
Stefan
