qmail Digest 10 Feb 1999 11:00:05 -0000 Issue 547

Topics (messages 21709 through 21757):

Hylafax with qmail
        21709 by: Chris Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21710 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21711 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Connection problems.
        21712 by: "Reid Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21714 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21716 by: "Reid Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

how to log POP3 transactions
        21713 by: Marlon Anthony Abao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21715 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Relaying unknow IP numbers???
        21717 by: Christian Willy Asmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

qmail-pw2u and alias user
        21718 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        21720 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21722 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

.qmail
        21719 by: WebMan at MountaiNet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21723 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

A few minor problems
        21721 by: Mark Bitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

.qmail (continued)
        21724 by: WebMan at MountaiNet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21726 by: Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Safely archiving logs
        21725 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

stupid version question.
        21727 by: Adam H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21728 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21729 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        21731 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21734 by: "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

AutoTURN
        21730 by: "Robert Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21732 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

cdb question
        21733 by: Rob Genovesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

when does a message get split
        21735 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

virtualdomains troubles...
        21736 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21740 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Any benchmarks?
        21737 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

off-topic, MUA to mail system files
        21738 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21739 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21741 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21751 by: Scott Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Three solutions for spam
        21742 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21743 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21744 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21746 by: "Jay D. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21748 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21752 by: Adam Rothschild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

three questions on var-qmail
        21745 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Email addresses with .'s in
        21747 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re-write domain information in outgoing mail
        21749 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date Stamp
        21750 by: ppiamdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

vchkpw and shadow passwords (redhat)
        21753 by: Adam H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        21755 by: Adam H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: line
        21754 by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Error in /var/log/maillog
        21756 by: Joel Shellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Which domain name to put where?
        21757 by: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Stefan Paletta wrote:

> Chris Bond wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
>
> > Has anyone managed to get qmail working with hylafax, i've previously
> > done this with sendmail.
>
> I created a virtualdomain (fax.WRonline.de) pointing to alias-fax.
> In ~alias/.qmail-fax-default I have (on one line):
> | /usr/local/bin/faxmail -n | /usr/local/bin/sendfax -n -D -s a4 -f
> "$SENDER" -d "$EXT2"
>
> Stefan

I've setup the MX records for *.fax.domain.co.uk, but how do u setup
*.fax.domain.co.uk in locals and rcpthosts as the message bounces when you
send it.

Regards,
Chris





Chris Bond writes:

> Stefan Paletta wrote:
> 
> > Chris Bond wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> >
> > > Has anyone managed to get qmail working with hylafax, i've previously
> > > done this with sendmail.
> >
> > I created a virtualdomain (fax.WRonline.de) pointing to alias-fax.
> > In ~alias/.qmail-fax-default I have (on one line):
> > | /usr/local/bin/faxmail -n | /usr/local/bin/sendfax -n -D -s a4 -f
> > "$SENDER" -d "$EXT2"
> >
> > Stefan
> 
> I've setup the MX records for *.fax.domain.co.uk, but how do u setup
> *.fax.domain.co.uk in locals and rcpthosts as the message bounces when you
> send it.

Take it out of locals, and put it in virtualdomains instead, in order to
create a virtual userid to take all mail for that domain.

man qmail-send for more information.

-- 
Sam






Chris Bond wrote/schrieb/scribsit:

> I've setup the MX records for *.fax.domain.co.uk, but how do u setup
> *.fax.domain.co.uk in locals and rcpthosts as the message bounces when
> you send it.
 
Add "fax.domain.co.uk" to rcpthosts.
Add "fax.domain.co.uk:alias-fax" to virtualdomains. Make sure you don't
have "fax.domain.co.uk" in locals.
Set up ~alias/.qmail-fax-default as described.
Users can then send their faxes to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stefan





Here is the inetd.conf line. The line was split at qmaild.

---begin---
smtp    stream  tcp     nowait  qmaild
/var/qmail/bin/tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
---end---

The line in my services file.

---begin---
smtp            25/tcp          mail
---end---

I get a connection and then it says the remote system has closed the
connection. I'm telneting from localhost to port 25. And if I telnet from
anywhere else it does the same thing. I've removed my hosts.allow and
hosts.deny and I still get the same problem. I have no clue what's doing it.

Thanks.

Reid Sutherland
Network Administrator
ISYS Technology Inc.
http://www.isys.ca
Fingerprint: 1683 001F A573 B6DF A074  0C96 DBE0 A070 28BE EEA5

-----Original Message-----
From: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Reid Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Connection problems.


>On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 10:30:51PM -0500, Reid Sutherland wrote:
>> The exact line in my inetd.conf is from the INSTALL file in qmail 1.03
>> tarball.
>> I've got Linux 2.2.1.
>> I got a connection closed from a telnet.
>> I have things setup in hosts.allow and deny but I allow localhost.
>> I ran config to make my rcpthosts and such.
>>
>> Everything seems ok to me. :/ I'm not new either. Maybe I'm just
>> "overlooking" something :)
>>
>
>That is the point.  I f you do not show, we do not see.
>
>Mate





Reid Sutherland wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> Here is the inetd.conf line. The line was split at qmaild.
> 
> ---begin---
> smtp    stream  tcp     nowait  qmaild
> /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
> ---end---

Problem: inetd executes /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env with
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd as ARGV[0] and no ARGV[1]. tcp-env expects the
name of the program to run as ARGV[1].

Solution: insert an additional "tcp-env" after /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
so that the line reads:
... qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd

This is exactly what is in the INSTALL file btw.

Stefan





Ack. You schooled me. Thanks!

See it was something stupid I missed. Thanks again.

/me goes back to work :)


Reid Sutherland
Network Administrator
ISYS Technology Inc.
http://www.isys.ca
Fingerprint: 1683 001F A573 B6DF A074  0C96 DBE0 A070 28BE EEA5

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Connection problems.


Reid Sutherland wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> Here is the inetd.conf line. The line was split at qmaild.
> 
> ---begin---
> smtp    stream  tcp     nowait  qmaild
> /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
> ---end---

Problem: inetd executes /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env with
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd as ARGV[0] and no ARGV[1]. tcp-env expects the
name of the program to run as ARGV[1].

Solution: insert an additional "tcp-env" after /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
so that the line reads:
... qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd

This is exactly what is in the INSTALL file btw.

Stefan





hello, 

        could somebody point out to me how to make qmail-pop3d log to syslog or
cyclog?

this is the entry in my rc.pop3 :

 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 100 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
    mail.philonline.com  \
   /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &


thanks.

-marlon





Marlon Anthony Abao wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> hello, 
> 
>       could somebody point out to me how to make qmail-pop3d log to
> syslog or cyclog?
>
> this is the entry in my rc.pop3 :
> 
>  /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 100 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
>     mail.philonline.com  \
>    /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &


tcpserver logs information about connections to stderr, so you can just
change this to (shortened):
tcpserver 0 pop3 qmail-popup mail.philonline.com checkpassword qmail-pop3d
Maildir 2>&1 | splogger pop3d &

To log logins with username and remote host, Use a small wrapper
to be called instead of qmail-pop3d:
% cat /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d-log
#!/bin/sh
logger -p local2.info -t pop3d "$USER logged in from $TCPREMOTEIP"
exec /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d $1
% 

Thanks to tcp-env, all the info is there...

Stefan





I am trying to allow people who connect trough ISPS to use my smtpd for
relaying.  Of course only if they are local-users (ie at my server).  I
found something with pop3-servers allowing the specific IP number for 10
minutes after a successful password user check.  Anyone know anything
bouth that?  any other sugestions?

thanx
-- 
 Christian Willy Asmussen   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




good day ...


i've stumbled up against this problem with qmail-pw2u:

98 root@spruce /var/qmail/users> qmail-pw2u < yppasswd > assign
qmail-pw2u: fatal: unable to find alias user
99 root@spruce /var/qmail/users> 

yppasswd has this entry:

101 root@spruce /var/qmail/users> grep alias yppasswd
alias alias:*:49492:31314::/var/qmail/alias:/dev/null
102 root@spruce /var/qmail/users>

is there something simple i'm missing? this is qmail 1.03 on
solaris 2.5.1.


-- 
-- m




[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> yppasswd has this entry:
> 
> 101 root@spruce /var/qmail/users> grep alias yppasswd
> alias alias:*:49492:31314::/var/qmail/alias:/dev/null
> 102 root@spruce /var/qmail/users>
> 
> is there something simple i'm missing? this is qmail 1.03 on
> solaris 2.5.1.

Yes.  You really don't have an alias user.  You have an "alias alias" user,
which is not exactly the same.


-- 
Sam





doh ...

i was making the yppasswd file using ypcat -k (i use it without
thinking). 

thanks for the reality check sam.

-- michael

On Tue, Feb 09, Sam wrote:
> 
> Yes.  You really don't have an alias user.  You have an "alias alias" user,
> which is not exactly the same.
> 
> 




Is there a way I can get around having to create a .qmail file for every
user?  Is it possible to have like a global change that does this?  I will
have a virtual domain on this box also, so would doing that coz a problem
with it?

Thanks again




- WebMan at MountaiNet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| Is there a way I can get around having to create a .qmail file for every
| user?  Is it possible to have like a global change that does this?

Think of the default delivery instruction (given on the qmail-start
command line) as a default .qmail file for every user who doesn't have
his own.

| I will have a virtual domain on this box also, so would doing that
| coz a problem with it?

If you have a .qmail-default or .qmail-something-default handling the
virtual domain, then the default delivery instruction is of course
ignored.

- Harald




Thanks for all the help, everything's running fine now.  My only regret
in abandoning sendmail and its charming companion, sendmail.cf, is that
I didn't find qmail 6 months earlier.




I think I forgot to mention that I am using Maildir delivery instead of
Mailbox.... 





On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 02:46:40PM -0500, WebMan at MountaiNet wrote:
> I think I forgot to mention that I am using Maildir delivery instead of
> Mailbox.... 

If you change ./Mailbox to ./Maildir/ in your qmail-send start script (probably
/var/qmail/rc), then Maildir delivery will be the default and you won't need
.qmail files in users' directories.

Chris




Bruce Guenter writes:
 > On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 01:26:26PM -0000, Russell Nelson wrote:
 > >  > What would be nice is if cyclog had some way of signaling to us
 > >  > that it had rotated a log, and we could save that away in a
 > >  > directory.
 > > 
 > > Yes, wouldn't it be nice if cyclog had another parameter, like this:
 > > 
 > > cyclog: usage: cyclog [ -ssize ] [ -nnum ] [ -mmargin ] dir program
 > > 
 > > where ``program'' gets called with an additional argument which is the
 > > name of the file cyclog has just ceased writing to.
 > 
 > It does if you add the patch I wrote ages ago for it :-)  See:
 >   http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~bguenter/distrib/daemontools/cyclog-command.patch

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize that cyclog
does too much.  Cyclog should work like this:

cyclog [ -ssize ] [ -mmargin ] dir program

"program" should be responsible for any files starting with an '@'
that have permission 0444.  One such program might be "rmlog".  It
would have these parameters:

rmlog [ -nnum ] dir

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Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok |   There is good evidence
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice |   that freedom is the
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   |   cause of world peace.




Okay, I have qmail doing lots of things, and I have not much of a problem
getting it working with vdomains, etc etc.. but my dumb question is.
How do I tell what version I'm running?
;)






- Adam H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| Okay, I have qmail doing lots of things, and I have not much of a problem
| getting it working with vdomains, etc etc.. but my dumb question is.
| How do I tell what version I'm running?
| ;)

Run  man qmail  and scroll to the bottom.

Or, with GNU grep:

; grep -A1 version /var/qmail/man/man7/qmail.7 
This documentation describes version
1.03

- Harald




Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 9 February 1999 at 21:36:56 +0100
 > - Adam H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 > 
 > | Okay, I have qmail doing lots of things, and I have not much of a problem
 > | getting it working with vdomains, etc etc.. but my dumb question is.
 > | How do I tell what version I'm running?
 > | ;)
 > 
 > Run  man qmail  and scroll to the bottom.
 > 
 > Or, with GNU grep:
 > 
 > ; grep -A1 version /var/qmail/man/man7/qmail.7 
 > This documentation describes version
 > 1.03

I'm not willing to assume, *especially* if debugging somebody else's
installation, that the documentation I find is in sync with the
binaries I'm running.  There really ought to be some sort of way to
tell directly from the binaries.  Ident doesn't find anything, and
strings doesn't turn up a string that looks like a version to me.
-- 
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Join the 20th century before it's too late!




Like it or not, that is the ONLY way to tell what version of qmail you are
running.

On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 9 February 1999 at 21:36:56 +0100
>  > - Adam H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  > 
>  > | Okay, I have qmail doing lots of things, and I have not much of a problem
>  > | getting it working with vdomains, etc etc.. but my dumb question is.
>  > | How do I tell what version I'm running?
>  > | ;)
>  > 
>  > Run  man qmail  and scroll to the bottom.
>  > 
>  > Or, with GNU grep:
>  > 
>  > ; grep -A1 version /var/qmail/man/man7/qmail.7 
>  > This documentation describes version
>  > 1.03
> 
> I'm not willing to assume, *especially* if debugging somebody else's
> installation, that the documentation I find is in sync with the
> binaries I'm running.  There really ought to be some sort of way to
> tell directly from the binaries.  Ident doesn't find anything, and
> strings doesn't turn up a string that looks like a version to me.
> -- 
> David Dyer-Bennet                                            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.ddb.com/~ddb (photos, sf) Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon
> http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ The Ouroboros Bookworms
> Join the 20th century before it's too late!
> 

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Senior Systems Manager
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/

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One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA  15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax





On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:26:23 -0500 (EST), Adam H wrote:

>Okay, I have qmail doing lots of things, and I have not much of a problem
>getting it working with vdomains, etc etc.. but my dumb question is.
>How do I tell what version I'm running?

If qmail was installed the normal way, the binaries are as in sync with
the man pages as they are with each other. 

qmail>=1.02 supports the DEFAULT environment variable. I haven't
verified this with qmail-<=1.01, but would assume that if "strings
qmail-local|grep DEFAULT" turns up something, you are running
qmail>=1.02.

For the future, you can just add a char* version="qmail version 1.03"
to qmail.c, then rebuild.


-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)






Hello all,

Has anyone found a good way to setup AutoTURN so that it doesn't require the
customer to have a static IP? Right now I have it setup per the AUTOTURN
file that came with serialmail...

-Jason

---
Robert J. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.siscom.net
Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com
SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc.
Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153





Robert Adams writes:
 > Hello all,
 > 
 > Has anyone found a good way to setup AutoTURN so that it doesn't require the
 > customer to have a static IP? Right now I have it setup per the AUTOTURN
 > file that came with serialmail...

That's what Anand's turnmail is for:

<li>[<a
href="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Anand Buddhdev</a>]
wrote a program, modified by Russell Nelson for publication here,
which wraps around qmail-pop3d and <a href="turnmail">triggers a
serialmail delivery</a> to the connecting host whose user just
authenticated themselves.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://crynwr.com/~nelson
Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok |   There is good evidence
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice |   that freedom is the
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   |   cause of world peace.




I am using qmail v1.03 with the users/assign method.  bin/qmail-newu builds
a cdb database for the assign file and I am trying to use 'cdbget' fromt he
cdb-0.55 package to query data from this database.

I notice the cdbget can recover find records for keys that start with a '+'
but not records that start with a '='.

ie (from users/assign):
=test:qpopd:888:888:/usr/popboxes/test:::
+test2:qpopd:888:888:/usr/popboxes/test2:::

So the following command will find the proper record:
./cdbget \!test2 < /var/qmail/users/cdb && echo ''
result: qpopd888888/usr/popboxes/test2

However this one returns nothing:
./cdbget \!test < /var/qmail/users/cdb && echo ''
result:

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

        Rob
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Mark Carpenter wrote:
> 
> > At 22:40 28/01/99 -0600, Mate Wierdl wrote:
> > >With all the talk about passing mail through serialline:  When does a
> > >message with multiple recipients get split?
> >
> > By qmail-send. It makes the decision to split a multi-recipient mail into
> > individual deliveries.
> 
> How does qmail-send make the decission to split or not to split?
> Does it always split it? It looks like all mail goes through qmail-
> send at some point.


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Matt Garrett wrote:
> 
> I seem to be having a bit of trouble getting qmail to recognize e-amil sent to
> my virtual domains. Here is what I've done so far...
> 
> 1. Install Qmail 1.03 from binary rpm.
> 
> 2. create popuser account/group
> in /etc/passwd> popuser:x:888:888:POP E-Mail User:/var/qmail:/bin/true
> in /etc/group> popuser:x:888:
> 
> 3. created popboxes hierarchy, /var/qmail/popboxes/domain-com/users, all
> owned by popuser, in group popuser, all chmoded 0755.
> 
> 4. created Maildirs in each e-mail account using maildirmk, chmoded 0755.
> 
> 5. created .qmail files in each e-mail account containing "./Maildir/",
> chmoded 0744.
> 
> 6. created vitrual domains in ~control/virtualdomains
> domain.com:domain-com
> etc...
> 
> 7. added domain.com to ~control/rcpthosts
> 
> 8. added e-mail accounts to ~users/assign
> =domain-com-user:popuser:888:888:/var/qmail/popboxes/domain-com/user:::
> 
> I don't want any email going to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so there's no need
> to create an email user +domain-com:popuser..., right?
> 
> I can email to an account with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but not with
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which is the point of the whole exercise. This is with the MX
> set to mail.domain.com and mail being an alias to the canonical name
> me.domain.com.
> 
> When everything's working right, I'll just change the alias from
> oldmail.domain.com to me.domain.com. There a problem with my DNS usage?
> 
> The POP3 system is working perfectly, and I have /etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smtpd
> set up to allow my customers to mail out and everyone else to mail in, but not
> allow others to relay through me.
> 
> I am having trouble getting mailer-daemon, postmaster, and root to be properly
> delivered to my maintenance account, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the ~alias/.qmail
> files set up to deliver to ./operator/Maildir/ and in ~alias I have a symbolic
> link of operator -> /home/me, chmoded 0755 and I can receive mail as
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] just fine, but mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] fails with a
> "Temporary error on maildir delivery (#4.3.0)".
> 
> my control files are like as follows:
> defaultdomain:
> domain.com
> 
> defaulthost: <- any ideas as to how to have the default host change for each
> domain.com   <- virtual domain?
> 
> locals:
> localhost
> me.domain.com
> domain.com
> domain.net
> 
> me:
> me.domain.com
> 
> plusdomain: <- exactly what is this control file used for again?
> domain.com
> domain.net
> 
> rcpthosts:
> localhost
> me.domain.com
> domain.com
> domain.net
> 
> virtualdomains:
> domain.com:domain-com
> domain.net:domain-net
> 
> I'll be adding several other virtual domains once the system is up and
> running, i.e. domain.net, etc.
> 
> Anyone care to write man pages for each control file? To call the existing
> documentation for them paltry would be generous.
> 
> --
> Matt Garrett, Network Engineer
> Superior Open Systems
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Chris Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 11:22:28AM +0000, Matt Garrett wrote:
> > I seem to be having a bit of trouble getting qmail to recognize e-amil sent to
> > my virtual domains. Here is what I've done so far...
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > 6. created vitrual domains in ~control/virtualdomains
> > domain.com:domain-com
> > etc...
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > locals:
> > localhost
> > me.domain.com
> > domain.com
> > domain.net
> 
> If you want a domain to be treated as virtual, you can't have it in locals.
> You should *never* have a particular domain name in both control/locals and
> control/virtualdomains.
> 
> Chris
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Balazs Nagy wrote:
> 
> Hiyas,
> 
> Is there anyone who did benchmarks with MTAs?  I cannot convince people who
> know only sendmail or exim ;-)
> 
> Regards: Balazs
> --
> #!/usr/bin/perl -export-a-crypto-system-sig -http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa
> print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<>
> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`
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Eric Dahnke wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> How do you folks mail system files (say logs for example)?
> 
> I can do it from the shell with
> 
>      mail user -s Subject
>      ~r/tmp/filename
>      .
> 
> But I can't get it to work from a script. I can't figure out how to give
> it the EOF. I've tried everything in the mail man pages, but no luck.
> 
> TIA - eric
> 
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Russell Nelson wrote:
> 
> Eric Dahnke writes:
>  > How do you folks mail system files (say logs for example)?
>  >      mail user -s Subject
>  >      ~r/tmp/filename
> 
> /var/qmail/bin/mailsubj "Subject" user </tmp/filename
> 
> --
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Mate Wierdl wrote:
> 
> use mailsubj as
> 
> mailsubj foo bar < file.you.want.to.mail
> 
> See man page for mailsubj.
> 
> Mate


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Len Budney wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Len Budney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Modems neither cause nor result from spam--modems and spam merely
> >  > correlate.
> >
> > It's an unusual step for a dial-up user to make direct SMTP
> > connections from his system.  Examining why they occur, there seem
> > to be 3 cases:
> 
> Thanks for a nice, cogent analysis. You did miss one sub-case, though,
> which may generally be a minor issue.
> 
> > 2.  Spamming -- they're doing something they don't want to be
> > visible to their ISP.
> 
> The subcase is:
> 
>   2. (b) Privacy/paranoia -- they're doing something _legitimate_ that
>      they don't want visible to their provider.
> 
> Before I got a static IP at work, I needed to use my employer's server
> to send mail. My employer had a stated policy reserving the right to
> intercept and read mail sent through the company server. They had no
> policy forbidding the use of SMTP without their server, and they had
> no policy against personal email on company time.
> 
> Hence, to protect my privacy, I chose to send personal mail from my
> own Linux laptop, circumventing their server.
> 
> Yes, I know--that's security through obscurity. I also used PGP, when
> applicable. However, it was a matter of principle with me to at least
> circumvent their stated intention to violate my privacy at will.
> 
> Hence, this is also a subtype of:
> 
> > 3.  Playing -- situations like home Linux boxes where people want to
> >     make the connections direct because they can.
> [snip]
> > So it doesn't seem that unreasonable to me to block SMTP from dialup
> > pools.  The legitemate users appear to have perfectly reasonable
> > options, and it stops one way of injecting spam.
> 
> It is your right, if you are an ISP. It will make many of us Linux
> users sad, because you have forbidden our "playing". It's rather a
> pity, in my opinion.
> 
> Len.
> 
> --
> 20. The Gestures of the Body must be Suited to the discourse you are upon.
>   -- George Washington, "Rules of Civility & Decent Behaviour"


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Dave Sill wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >It's an unusual step for a dial-up user to make direct SMTP
> >connections from his system.  Examining why they occur, there seem to
> >be 3 cases:
> >
> >1.  Misconfiguration.  They really should be going through their ISP's
> >    mailserver.
> >
> >2.  Spamming -- they're doing something they don't want to be visible
> >    to their ISP.
> >
> >3.  Playing -- situations like home Linux boxes where people want to
> >    make the connections direct because they can.
> 
> 4. Home networks.
> 
> I've got three PC's connected to a 3Com LAN modem: two Winblows boxes
> and a Linux box. Rather than having the scattered MUA's talk to the
> ISP's servers for POP and SMTP service, I'd like them to talk to my
> local server. That way they can send and receive mail even when the
> modem isn't connected or the ISP is down--an all-too-common
> occurrence.
> 
> >So it doesn't seem that unreasonable to me to block SMTP from dialup
> >pools.  The legitemate users appear to have perfectly reasonable
> >options, and it stops one way of injecting spam.
> 
> I disagree. Yes, I could configure my server to pass everything off to
> the ISP's mail hub, but, frankly, I can do a better job of it than
> they can. And switching to a more competant ISP is not an
> option. Where I live, there's only one ISP that's reachable via a
> local call.
> 
> Stopping spam is a worthy goal, but one must seriously consider the
> costs associated. Preventing competent people from doing reasonable
> things is not an acceptable cost.
> 
> -Dave


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Paul J. Schinder wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:43:17AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> }
> } Speaking of open relay blocking, is the appropriate way to use both
> } RBL and ORBS to invoke rblsmtpd twice?  As in
> }
> }     /usr/local/bin/tcpserver-qmail -pR -c50 -u70 -g70 \
> }     -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
> }     0 smtp /usr/bin/rblsmtpd -r relays.orbs.org -b /usr/bin/rblsmtpd \
> }     -b /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3
> }
> } (I put ORBS first on the guess that it would block more connects).
> 
> Yes, it is.  It's documented that way somewhere, in fact.
> 
> }
> } Has anybody been paying attention enough to know whether the RBL is
> } essentially a subset of ORBS?  Given the rules and procedures for each
> } as I understand them, it seems entirely possible.  That would be my
> } other easy approach -- don't use both, just use ORBS.
> 
> No, as I understand it, they use different criteria.  MAPS is more a
> "these are proven, documented spammers" while ORBS blocks open relays,
> and so is proactive.  I use both (just as above), and there are sites
> that MAPS catches that ORBS don't and vice versa.  If you're using
> ORBS, you may want to keep an eye on your logs.  There are many work
> related sites that I have to let through the ORBS block, so others may
> be in there that are important to you.
> 
> } --
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Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
> 
> On 01-Feb-99 Dave Sill wrote:
> >  I disagree. Yes, I could configure my server to pass everything off to
> >  the ISP's mail hub, but, frankly, I can do a better job of it than
> >  they can. And switching to a more competant ISP is not an
> >  option. Where I live, there's only one ISP that's reachable via a
> >  local call.
> >
> >  Stopping spam is a worthy goal, but one must seriously consider the
> >  costs associated. Preventing competent people from doing reasonable
> >  things is not an acceptable cost.
> I wholeheartedly concur. Dave's setup is similar to mine, with
> the exception that mine's not a home network, but a small
> office network. We're communications people, and advise
> customers on such things as qmail. I'm running our setup to
> simulate what we configure at (better connected) customer
> sites, but we cannot afford a permanently connected host.
> FYI, it would cost us something like US$650/month to have a leased
> line to our ISP, and ISDN would be even more expensive
> (US$40/day for line costs alone). That's not counting the
> ISP's invoice...
> 
> What I do have is a domain (ecc.lu), and an MX record in
> my ISP's DNS. But I connect using a single, dynamic,
> dial-up IP address, because that's the only way to get
> an affordable connection.
> 
> And no, I can't move to the USA 'cause they don't want to
> give me a green card ;-)
> 
> Stefaan
> --
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SHUT THE FUCK UP, and send mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  Be
gone.

Have a nice day!

Cheers,
-a







Mate Wierdl wrote:
> 
> As I am putting on the finishing touches on a var-qmail package, the
> following occured to me:
> 
> 1) In BIN.Makefile, I see:
> 
>    # showing the positions of each byte in the following ten ints:
>    # uida, uidd, uidl, uido, uidp, uidq, uidr, uids, gidq, gidn.
> 
> Are not these supposed to be auto_uida, auto_uidd ?
> 
> 2) If a Makefile is supposed to be put in a var-qmail package, then it
> is also needed that the box doing the installation has make
> installed.  On the other hand, I thought one of the purposes of a
> binary package is to be able to install qmail on machines which have
> no productions environment whatsoever.
> 
> What if I replace the Makefile with a shellscript?
> 
> 3) Describing the compilation environment in BIN.README, is it enough
> if I disclose the gcc and glibc version, or I should list all the
> shared libraries used?
> 
> Thx
> 
> Mate

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John R Levine wrote:
> 
> > All agreed, but I still don't understand Russell saying 'slashes
> > were useful to allow subdirectories'.
> 
> Slashes in individual user names are indeed not very useful, but they
> can be quite handy for virtual domains.  You might put a line in
> control/virtualdomains like this:
> 
> blather.com:virtual-blather/m-
> 
> so that the mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is controlled by
> ~virtual/.qmail-blather/m-fred, putting each domain's qmail files in a
> separate subdirectory.
> 
> --
> John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl,
> Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail
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Len Budney wrote:
> 
> Robin Bowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In order that I have valid return mail addresses, I'd like to
> > re-write the domain in all outgoing mail from my home network so
> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" become
> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> 
> I do the same thing, for the same reason. There are two solutions--one
> very specific, the other somewhat tricky.
> 
>   1. In your shell startup scripts, set the environment variables
>      QMAILSUSER and QMAILSHOST. See qmail-inject(8) for details.
> 
>      This is somewhat fragile in that users can turn off those
>      variables and undo your efforts on their behalf.
> 
>   2. If you use serialmail for outgoing mail, fiddle with the
>      envelope sender at that time. Do this by adding a line to
>      /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains which says:
> 
> :alias-rewrite
> 
>      Next, put the following in ~alias/.qmail-rewrite-default, all on
>      a single line:
> 
> |qmail-local alias /var/qmail/alias
>         alias-outgoing-$EXT "-" outgoing-$EXT
>         $HOST [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./Outgoing/
> 
>       Finally, create the maildir ~alias/Outgoing, and touch the empty
>       file ~alias/.qmail-outgoing-default. When you run serialmail,
>       the prefix to snip off will be "alias-outgoing-rewrite-".
> 
> The latter solution is odd, but it's the simplest way I know of to
> fiddle with envelopes, without doing something silly with "preline"
> and "sed". Any simpler solution would be appreciated!
> 
> Len.
> 
> --
> 84. When your Superiours talk to any Body hearken not neither Speak
> nor Laugh.
>   -- George Washington, "Rules of Civility & Decent Behaviour"

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Ramesh Vadlapatla wrote:
> 
> Hello!,
> 
> How do I correct the date stamp when a mail is sent so that it represents
> a dd-Mon-YYYY format rather than the one shown below
> 
> At 02:21 AM 2/1/99
> 
> Your help is very much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> Ramesh
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Okay, is anyone running vchkpw and shadow passwords?
It doesn't seem to be working... Are there any options to set or something
somewhere?  Before/after compile or something?
Box is redhat with pam..

Thanks for any help.

adam






Ack... I'm sorry... It wasn't directly in the documentation, but in the
src/Makefile ... 
thought the -lshadow directive caused it to throw up, just the DPW_SHADOW
has it working fine.

Thanks!

-a


On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Adam H wrote:

> Okay, is anyone running vchkpw and shadow passwords?
> It doesn't seem to be working... Are there any options to set or something
> somewhere?  Before/after compile or something?
> Box is redhat with pam..
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> adam
> 
> 
> 





This is a little off topic. I'm running qmail server on linux machine.
When one of my customer sends mail through my mail server, it is rejected
because of To: line:
To: [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
failure: Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_aquacorp.com].

Qmail doesn't strip off the bracket(]).
I vaguely remember this To: line is against the RFC rules on SMTP...
Am I right? If I'm right, I want to show the exact RFC document to him.
Could somebody direct me to the right place to get the document?

Thanks,

Heechul






What does the following error in the maillog file mean?

Feb  9 23:03:16 joel qmail: 918626596.080512 warning: unable to stat
mess/20/636 38

Thank you.
-- 
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knOcean Interactive Corporation
http://corp.knOcean.com/




I have a small home network with 5 or so machines. These all have IP
addresses in the range 192.168.13.xxx and I have christened them
xxxx.isbd.mynet.

The Linux machine where I am running qmail is server2.isbd.mynet and
its IP address is 192.168.13.25, so far so good.

The above Linux machine is also the one that connects to my ISP to
send and receive mail.  For this connection the machine's name is
isbd.demon.co.uk with a static IP address of 158.152.25.160.

Which domain name(s) should I put in which files in the qmail
configuration?  In particular should /var/qmail/control/me be
isbd.demon.co.uk or server2.isbd.mynet, or doesn't it matter too much?

Currently I have:-

defaultdomain   contains isbd.mynet
defaulthost     contains isbd.demon.co.uk
locals          contains isbd.demon.co.uk and server2.isbd.mynet
me              contains isbd.demon.co.uk
plusdomain      contains isbd.mynet
rcpthosts       contains isbd.demon.co.uk and server2.isbd.mynet

Does this seem reasonable, or should defaultdomain and plusdomain be
changed to demon.co.uk?  isbd.mynet is just a fiction for my own
convenience really and shouldn't appear anywhere in mail, it just
needs to be in locals and rcpthosts so qmail will handle mail to/from
the local network.  In fact do I need plusdomain at all?

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