qmail Digest 6 Mar 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 571

Topics (messages 22700 through 22726):

[Fwd: Your SMTP is about to be abused!]
        22700 by: Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22703 by: Dax Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

500.000+ users mailserver
        22701 by: listy-dyskusyjne Krzysztof Dabrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22705 by: Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22706 by: Dirk Vleugels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Strange problem
        22702 by: Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22707 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Netscape hangs after EHLO when sending
        22704 by: Jenny Holmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Strange problem (solved)
        22708 by: Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

qmail license?
        22709 by: Matthias Pigulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22710 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Virus Scan within qmail
        22711 by: Bernhard Duebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22713 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

suggestions for qmail setup?
        22712 by: Niklas Alberth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mail sent to username without "@domain.com"
        22714 by: "Rick McMillin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22715 by: "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22719 by: "Rick McMillin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

auto pgp signing all outgoing emails
        22716 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        22717 by: "Jay D. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22718 by: "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22720 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22721 by: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22722 by: "Edward S. Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

More Maildir configuration questions
        22723 by: "Enbo Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        22724 by: "Enbo Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

More Maildir configuration questions - Happy99.exe
        22725 by: Michael Bracker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Oops, you were sent a virus
        22726 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Jere Cassidy wrote:

> Re: Attachment:
> I wonder how many qmail users got this one!

I did at one of the other domains I handle.

> At the risk of publisizing the program, it is located at
> http://www.earthonline.com.  Let the flaming commence!  There have been
> quite a few admins contemplating legal action.  Luckily, qmail has stood
> up to countless attacks of this type.  I guess luck doesn't have much to
> do with it.. Thanks again DJB, MrSam, and contributors!

That address is either on a slow link, is really busy or is under attack!
I'm hoping for the lattermost.  They're 12 hops away, hop 11 is ~72 ms,
hop 12 is 1.5-2.0 seconds!!  So far I don't show either whynot or savings
in my logs, but I'm not sure I would the way the attack reads.

Vince.
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==========================================================================
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       # include <std/disclaimers.h>                   TEAM-OS2
        Online Campground Directory    http://www.camping-usa.com
       Online Giftshop Superstore    http://www.cloudninegifts.com
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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Jere Cassidy wrote:
> 
> > Re: Attachment:
> > I wonder how many qmail users got this one!
> 
> I did at one of the other domains I handle.
> 
> > At the risk of publisizing the program, it is located at
> > http://www.earthonline.com.  Let the flaming commence!  There have been
> > quite a few admins contemplating legal action.  Luckily, qmail has stood
> > up to countless attacks of this type.  I guess luck doesn't have much to
> > do with it.. Thanks again DJB, MrSam, and contributors!
> 
> That address is either on a slow link, is really busy or is under attack!
> I'm hoping for the lattermost.  They're 12 hops away, hop 11 is ~72 ms,
> hop 12 is 1.5-2.0 seconds!!  So far I don't show either whynot or savings
> in my logs, but I'm not sure I would the way the attack reads.
> 
> Vince.

I received such an email that my domain is in this program the the
earthonline jokers wrote.

EARTHONLINE.COM name server NS37.EARTHONLINE.COM
EARTHONLINE.COM name server NS12.EARTHONLINE.COM
EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.75 - Windows box
SUPPORT.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.81 - 
NS37.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.75 - Windows box
NS12.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.76 - Windows box
VENDOR.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.68 - Windows box
MIDAS.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.75 - Windows box
POP.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.80 
MAIL.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 209.20.201.80
HELP.EARTHONLINE.COM has address 205.138.102.208 - Linux 2.0.35 box






Hello..

As i can see my post provoked few interesting answers. At the moment
everything looks like that hypotetical 500.000+ mailserver could be
implemented. There are just few remaining questions. If someone knows the
answers then please share them :)

a) how one can organize an independent quota system on OS with 16 bit uids.
How to do it fast (as it'll be checked and modified on every delivery/download
b) a lot of you is proposing netapp as a filesystem sharing solution. My
question is : does it support 32 bit uids? if it does then does it
implements any quota system on its own? How will it interoperate with an OS
with 16 bit uids then etc.
c) if we are using something like netapp then what network speed is
necesary to make that 500k mailserver running smoothly (i assume netapp
uses nfs).

that's it.

Kris





listy-dyskusyjne Krzysztof Dabrowski wrote:
> 
> Hello..
> 
> As i can see my post provoked few interesting answers. At the moment
> everything looks like that hypotetical 500.000+ mailserver could be
> implemented. There are just few remaining questions. If someone knows the
> answers then please share them :)
> 
> a) how one can organize an independent quota system on OS with 16 bit uids.
> How to do it fast (as it'll be checked and modified on every delivery/download

qmail-ldap checks user quotas indepently from the operating systems
quota.

> b) a lot of you is proposing netapp as a filesystem sharing solution. My
> question is : does it support 32 bit uids? if it does then does it
> implements any quota system on its own? How will it interoperate with an OS
> with 16 bit uids then etc.

Forget about using the OS' user management and go with an 'virtual
user' system.

> c) if we are using something like netapp then what network speed is
> necesary to make that 500k mailserver running smoothly (i assume netapp
> uses nfs).

Switched 100Mbit Ethernet. You can't make more traffic in the backend
than you have in the front (= speed of your Internet connection).

-- 
Andre Oppermann

CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer
Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG)
Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland
Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77
http://www.pipeline.ch    [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hi,

Quoting listy-dyskusyjne Krzysztof Dabrowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hello..
> 
> As i can see my post provoked few interesting answers. At the moment
> everything looks like that hypotetical 500.000+ mailserver could be
> implemented. There are just few remaining questions. If someone knows the
> answers then please share them :)
> 
> a) how one can organize an independent quota system on OS with 16 bit uids.
> How to do it fast (as it'll be checked and modified on every delivery/download

No idea. I would use some homegrown script which checks the size of the
pop mailboxes. I wouldn't want to depend on some flaky OS limitations. 
You'll never know which system call will bite you.

> b) a lot of you is proposing netapp as a filesystem sharing solution. My
> question is : does it support 32 bit uids? if it does then does it
> implements any quota system on its own? How will it interoperate with an OS
> with 16 bit uids then etc.

A 740 supports 32767 in the local passwd. I would go with a different
authentification service though. We have good experiences with LDAP.
Replication is easy.

> c) if we are using something like netapp then what network speed is
> necesary to make that 500k mailserver running smoothly (i assume netapp
> uses nfs).

Yes NFS.

Depends. With multiple ethernet devices 100mbit full duplex should be
enough if the pop3 servers are properly distributed. A NetApp supports
gigabit ethernet if needed.

Dirk





        I just installed qmail-1.03 on a RedHat 5.2.
        I want to use procmail to handle the mail, so i copyed boot/proc
to rc.  
        I am using /var/spool/mail/~user as the mailbox.
        
        Whenever i send a message to someone (localy) i get this:

Mar  5 16:50:03 lspvs qmail: 920645403.430585 new msg 252
Mar  5 16:50:03 lspvs qmail: 920645403.431445 info msg 252: bytes 223 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 545 uid 0
Mar  5 16:50:03 lspvs qmail: 920645403.483529 starting delivery 12: msg 252
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mar  5 16:50:03 lspvs qmail: 920645403.484140 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
Mar  5 16:50:03 lspvs qmail: 920645403.863008 delivery 12: deferral:
*****Home_directory_is_sticky:_user_is_editing_his_.qmail_file._(#4.2.1)/*****
Mar  5 16:50:03 lspvs qmail: 920645403.863771 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
                        

        Any help is apreciated.


---
Andrei Postolache, [EMAIL PROTECTED], +40-35360249
An ideal world: no stupids, no 16800 bps connections and Windows works(what
for, i don't know).
---





- Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| Mar  5 16:50:03 lspvs qmail: 920645403.863008 delivery 12: deferral:
| *****Home_directory_is_sticky:_user_is_editing_his_.qmail_file._(#4.2.1)/*****

Read the section SAFE QMAIL EDITING in the dot-qmail man page.

- Harald




We're running about ten qmailservers for a few hundred users. Recently
a few of them have had problems with sending mails from Netscape v.
4.05. What happens is that they get en error messages containing:

smtp server error:
smtp.algonet.se:
PIPELINING
8BITMIME
Contact your mail administrator for assistance

The problem is, of course, that these are perfectly valid and correct
codes to return. And we have not changed the setup in the mailboxen
recently, and of course the users claim to not have changed anything
either. I rather assume that this is a bug in Netscape, but I'd be
interested in knowing whether anyone else has seen this.

/Jenny Holmberg, Telenordia





> If the home directory (the directory where .qmail file is) has sticky 
> bit set (ie. permissions like drwxr-xr-t), qmail postpones delivery 
> (by setting sticky bit, you're telling "I am working on updates". Do 
> chmod o-t ~   
> --
> Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.antek.cz
> -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
>                                                              [Tom Waits]
> 

        That was it.
        Thanx.

---
Andrei Postolache, [EMAIL PROTECTED], +40-35360249
An ideal world: no stupids, no 16800 bps connections and Windows works(what
for, i don't know).
---





Hi guys,

I'm currently working at a one-way mail spawning tool (_not_ to
substitue ezmlm, Godness! ;-).

I am makeing heavy use of Dan's functions (e.g. strallocs), and so I'd
like to know where I can find the qmail license.

I don't plan to commercially sell anything, but just want to know...

Matthias
-- 
   w e b f a c t o r y | matthias pigulla
      www.webfactory.de  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




- Matthias Pigulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| I am makeing heavy use of Dan's functions (e.g. strallocs), and so
| I'd like to know where I can find the qmail license.

Dan believes in not giving explicit permissions which are already
granted by law.  See

  ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/softwarelaw.html
  ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/dist.html

In brief, you can do anything you want with the qmail source code, in
bits or as a whole, as long as you do not redistribute.  If you do
want to distribute your code with Dan's library code, you will need to
get his permission.  (But you can always distribute your own code with
instructions for the user to get the qmail code independently and
merge with your code before running make, etc.)

Someone will surely correct me if I have it wrong.  Advice like this
always seems to end with a disclaimer, so here is mine:
I am not a lawyer, and happy about it.

- Harald




Hi,

I use qmail on my Internet Mail Gateways and it works fine. Now I want to
integrate a virus scanner into qmail.
The virus scanner comes with 2 diffrent interfaces.
As smtp sever, it listens on a port. When a connection comes in, it pipes the
smtp commands to an external program or a port on an other machine. When the
message body comes, it scans it for virus. If the body is ok, it hands it over
to the real smtp server. I can not connect the virus scanner to the smtp port,
because there is no spam control.
As filter it reads the mail from STDIN and the sender and receipients from the
command line (just like /bin/mail). It scans the mail for viruses and pipes it
to an external program (normaly /usr/lib/sendmail).
In both cases, I need a route which sends all mail through the virus scanner
and then to the receipient.
I though of having 2 qmail instances. The first sends all incoming mail to the
virus scanner. The virus scanner then invokes the second qmail instance, which
routes the mail to the receipient. But, this means I have to support 2
different configurations of qmail. And what about bounces ?

Does anybody have a better idea?

Cheers
Bernhard




- Bernhard Duebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| I use qmail on my Internet Mail Gateways and it works fine. Now I
| want to integrate a virus scanner into qmail.

| I though of having 2 qmail instances. The first sends all incoming
| mail to the virus scanner. The virus scanner then invokes the second
| qmail instance, which routes the mail to the receipient. But, this
| means I have to support 2 different configurations of qmail.

That is not really a great burden, since one of the two will most
likely have a very simple setup.  Another approach is to add a
NORELAYCLIENT environment variable to qmail-smtpd.  (Someone suggested
that recently on this list.)  It would have the same effect as
RELAYCLIENT (prepending a string to the incoming mail address), but
without turning off the rcpthosts check.

Then, just have your tcpcontrol file contain

:allow,NORELAYCLIENT='virus.check'

and the virtualdomains file contain

virus.check:alias-viruscheck

and set up ~alias/.qmail-viruscheck-default with something like

|do-check-for-virus | forward "$DEFAULT"

If you want locally generated, outgoing mail to pass through the virus
checker too, use the fact that virtually all user generated mail
passes through qmail-inject.  So replace qmail-inject with a program
which passes its stdin through the virus checker, then pipes the
output into the real qmail-inject (with the same arguments of course).

| And what about bounces ?

Locally generated bounces do not pass through qmail-inject, so they
won't be affected.  Remotely generated bounces will of course be
subject to virus checking as they come in.

Fixing qmail-smtpd.c to allow the NORELAYCLIENT variable is no sweat.
I include an untested patch below.

- Harald

--- qmail-smtpd.c.orig  Mon Jun 15 12:53:16 1998
+++ qmail-smtpd.c       Fri Mar  5 20:13:32 1999
@@ -81,6 +81,7 @@
 char *remoteinfo;
 char *local;
 char *relayclient;
+int norelay = 1;
 
 stralloc helohost = {0};
 char *fakehelo; /* pointer into helohost, or 0 */
@@ -130,7 +131,10 @@
   remotehost = env_get("TCPREMOTEHOST");
   if (!remotehost) remotehost = "unknown";
   remoteinfo = env_get("TCPREMOTEINFO");
-  relayclient = env_get("RELAYCLIENT");
+  relayclient = env_get("NORELAYCLIENT");
+  if (!relayclient) {
+    relayclient = env_get("RELAYCLIENT");
+    if (relayclient) norelay = 0; }
   dohelo(remotehost);
 }
 
@@ -256,7 +260,7 @@
     if (!stralloc_cats(&addr,relayclient)) die_nomem();
     if (!stralloc_0(&addr)) die_nomem();
   }
-  else
+  if (norelay)
     if (!addrallowed()) { err_nogateway(); return; }
   if (!stralloc_cats(&rcptto,"T")) die_nomem();
   if (!stralloc_cats(&rcptto,addr.s)) die_nomem();




Hi!

I'm about to setup qmail to handle mail for several domains. 
What packages do I need to handle virtual domains and both POP and IMAP
without making more then one account per domain?

Any general tips?

--Niklas 




Something weird was recently brought to my attention.  In
email apps such as Eudora, you can put just a username in
the "To:" or "Cc:" field and it will send the message to that
user at the same domain.  This I've known for some time.

What I didn't know is that if you send an email to a user of
some other domain (i.e. typing in the whole address), and
CC users at the same domain by just typing in usernames,
there can be problems when the "other domain" recipient
attempts to reply to everyone.

For example, say I email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put just
user2 in the CC field.  The email gets sent to both [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  However, when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does a "Reply to all", it will set up the reply to be sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with a CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead
of a CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  It appears that QMail isn't
appending "@iland.net" to the end of user2 when sending the
original message.

Is there a reason that QMail doesn't do this?  Is there a way to
fix this?

Thanks,

Rick McMillin
Systems Administrator
I-Land Internet Services





> From:  "Rick McMillin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:51:02 -0600
>
> Is there a reason that QMail doesn't do this?  Is there a way to
> fix this?

FAQ 5.5: How do I fix up messages from broken SMTP clients?

-- 
Chris Garrigues                 Deep Eddy Internet Consulting
+1 512 432 4046                 609 Deep Eddy Avenue                    O-
http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/   Austin, TX  78703-4513

  My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination.  For an
  explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html 

    Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
      but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.


PGP signature





Thanks.  This seems to have fixed it.  I saw this in the
FAQ right after I sent the message.  Guess I should check
there first next time.  :)

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chris Garrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Rick McMillin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Mail sent to username without "@domain.com" 







A german group wishes to have all outgoing emails
PGP signed with the sites public key. Or if possible,
have each users email automaticly signed with each users
public key. An automated way for assigning a key to each
user would be needed.

A key signature from the host would be okay.
A key signature from each user would be ideal if it is
practical.

Does anyone have any tips for how to implement this?

How would one automaticly PGP sign each outgoing email
with the sites key?

Cheers,
Ken Jones
Inter7





-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> A german group wishes to have all outgoing emails PGP signed with the
> sites public key. Or if possible, have each users email automaticly
> signed with each users public key. An automated way for assigning a key
> to each user would be needed. 

        Signing requires the secret key passphrase.  One of the stumbling
blocks to any such system is that the passphrase has to be stored
somewhere, and usually in plaintext or similarly-vulnerable fashion.  This
reduces the strength of the signature as acquisition of the passphrase
renders the key compromised.

> A key signature from the host would be okay.
> A key signature from each user would be ideal if it is
> practical.

        Better that each user have their own key.  Setting up mailers such
as Pine to allow for PGP signing is fairly trivial.  I have it set up here
using send-filters.

> How would one automaticly PGP sign each outgoing email with the sites
> key? 

        Again, it requires input of the secret key passphrase.  Given
that, I'd have to recommend against an automated solution for security's
sake alone.

   (                                                             ______
   ))   .-- "There's always time for a good cup of coffee." --.   >===<--.
 C|~~| (>-- Jay D. Dyson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --<) |   = |-'
  `--'  `-- As a matter of fact, I *am* a rocket scientist. --'  `-----'

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Version: 2.6.2

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hR3oUQCjpnsDWHc4NjKyNiYynhclAn50Du+Zn1ViQEetcsou4QooT2gKsElYyhsb
HbYwpz8/gr9xfFOn0UYCFUOKOJofRNr7dxzOOOaqWVyPwuplz95LQ905OSp5KP2K
8LOV5ji+ppI=
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-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----





> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:  Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:09:45 -0600
>
> A german group wishes to have all outgoing emails
> PGP signed with the sites public key. Or if possible,
> have each users email automaticly signed with each users
> public key. An automated way for assigning a key to each
> user would be needed.
> 
> A key signature from the host would be okay.
> A key signature from each user would be ideal if it is
> practical.
> 
> Does anyone have any tips for how to implement this?
> 
> How would one automaticly PGP sign each outgoing email
> with the sites key?

The problem with any automatic signing scheme is that the password to get to 
the private key needs to be saved somewhere.  This makes any attempt to do 
this in the MTA suspect, which is why mine is signed in my MUA.

Having said that, however, you can force all outgoing mail to be sent to an 
alias using virtual domains with an entry something like this:

echo ':signme' > /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains

and then have a script in /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-signme-default which does 
the signing and then sends the message on it's way (via another instance of 
qmail, possibly).  If you have all your mail going through a firewall, this 
configuration should be even easier.

Of course, I haven't actually done this, but it should work.

Chris

-- 
Chris Garrigues                 Deep Eddy Internet Consulting
+1 512 432 4046                 609 Deep Eddy Avenue                    O-
http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/   Austin, TX  78703-4513

  My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination.  For an
  explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html 

    Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
      but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.


PGP signature





On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Chris Garrigues wrote:

> > How would one automaticly PGP sign each outgoing email
> > with the sites key?
> 
> The problem with any automatic signing scheme is that the password to get to 
> the private key needs to be saved somewhere.  This makes any attempt to do 
> this in the MTA suspect, which is why mine is signed in my MUA.

One feature of PGP 2.6, at least, is that you can shove the passphrase
into the PGPPASS environment variable.

So, all you have to do is to prompt the user for the PGP passphrase at
log in, and put it in the environment.  Then, you can juryrig some wrapper
around qmail-inject to automatically PGP sign everything.

I have the following code in my .profile, and .Xclients:

PGPPASS=`/usr/local/lib/pgp/pgppass`
export PGPPASS

Then, the pgppass script goes something like this <ahem>:

==========================================================================
#!/bin/sh

if [ "$PGPPASS" !=  "" ]
then
        echo "$PGPPASS"
        exit 0
fi

if [ "$DISPLAY" != "" ]
then
        # Running X, use xterm

exec 3>&1
xterm -fn 9x15 -T 'PGP Password' -geometry 34x3 -e /bin/bash -c 'stty -echo ;
        echo "" ; echo "  Secret PGP password: " | tr -d '"'\\012'"' ;
        read PASSWORD ; echo "$PASSWORD" >&3'
else
        trap 'stty echo ; exit 1' 1 2 3 13 14 15
        stty -echo
        echo "Secret key password: " | tr -d '\012' >&2
        read PASSWORD
        echo "">&2
        stty echo
        echo "$PASSWORD"
fi
==========================================================================

I should really make this more robust, one of these days, and have the
script verify that the passphrase is valid.






Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> One feature of PGP 2.6, at least, is that you can shove the passphrase
> into the PGPPASS environment variable.

> So, all you have to do is to prompt the user for the PGP passphrase at
> log in, and put it in the environment.  Then, you can juryrig some
> wrapper around qmail-inject to automatically PGP sign everything.

It's worth bearing in mind that doing this exposes your PGP passphrase to
anyone else using the same machine, so it's recommended (strongly) that
one never do this on a multiuser machine.  ps on most varieties of Unix
allows you to see the entire environment of other processes.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])         <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Sam wrote:
> One feature of PGP 2.6, at least, is that you can shove the passphrase
> into the PGPPASS environment variable.

Good gawd, no.

On a private machine, sure. But this information -can- be gotten to on
many UNIXen without a lot of trouble. Try this on any Solaris box (2.6
will do nicely):

        /usr/ucb/ps -eax

Full dump of the environment for every process. Still feel safe?

This is why you see people going to great lengths to protect secret
cookies; look at how RTR Software did their FP extention suid piece to see
a good example of how to pass passwords in a safer manner (stdin).

(Before anyone jumps on me: I know that this information is private on
sane operating systems. I'm pointing out that it's a bad idea on a few
rather popular ones.)

-- 
Edward S. Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       [ What goes up, must come down. ]
http://www.logic.net/~emarshal/               [ Ask any system administrator. ]

   Linux labyrinth 2.2.2-pre2 #2 Sun Feb 14 15:24:09 CST 1999 i586 unknown
       8:00pm up 18 days, 20:36, 4 users, load average: 0.76, 0.31, 0.10





> Secondly, the 'question'.  Can I change the name and location of a user's
> Maildir or does it *have* to be ~/Maildir?  If it can be changed which
> configuration files need changing?

>You can use users/assign to have mail delivered anywhere you like. What
>exactly did you have in mind?

Yes, change the HOME section in users/assign file, and mail will be
delivered to the right place. But, qmail-pop3d requires checkpassword
package, and standard checkpassword *must* get user's homedir from
/etc/passwd, and pass it to qmail-pop3d as HOME env. So if I set homedir in
users/assign different from /etc/passwd, I can't get mail through pop3, even
though the mail waits at the right place. And, I don't want to have a extra
file contains user name, encrypt password, real userid and homedir, it's
intricacy.

Anyone have some good suggestions? or I have to hack the checkpassword? (I
have hacked it and it works, but I don't like do that)

THANX!






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hi Enbo,

why do you send this virus through the list?
Sorry, this was the thing itself.

happy99.exe will infect your Windows-PC. It doesn't make any very bad
things, but it sends eMails like we recieved here without any control of
the owner of this PC.
So don't open it and don't flame against Enbo .-)


bye,
Michael Bracker




The Star Scanning System discovered a virus in a
message sent to you.
------------------------------------------------

To help you identify the message:

The message was titled 'RE: More Maildir configuration questions'
The message date was Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:32:05 +0800 (CST)
The message identifier was (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
The message sender was 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

------------------------------------------------

What now:

Please contact the original sender to request a 
non-infected version of the message.

The original message was diverted into the virus
holding pen (id 151322) and will be held for 10 days
before being destroyed.

You can contact Star Support on:
   +44 (0)1285 884433
or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
______________________________________________________________________
This message has been checked for viruses by the Star Screening System
http://www.star.co.uk


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