qmail Digest 27 Apr 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 623
Topics (messages 24715 through 24785):
failed dependencies - sendmail conflicts with qmail
24715 by: "Oden Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24717 by: "Robin Bowes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24723 by: "Dave Teske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wildcards in badmailfrom ?
24716 by: torben fjerdingstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24744 by: Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Help - I am fighting with old ideologies...
24718 by: Jim Beam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24722 by: Jim Beam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24725 by: Jeff Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24727 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24729 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hey - Getting closer, methinks!
24719 by: Peter Haworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24746 by: Roger Merchberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ezmlm + mail2html ?
24720 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
have i stumped you?
24721 by: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24724 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24753 by: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24756 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24759 by: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24762 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Question
24726 by: "Julian L.C. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24730 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Patch question
24728 by: Andy Walden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just a quick question (stupid one at that)
24731 by: "Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24732 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24733 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
stupid question...
24734 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Outgoing mail problems
24735 by: "Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24737 by: Hitesh Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24738 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Out going mail problems . . .cont
24736 by: "Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reinstall
24739 by: "Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24745 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24755 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24758 by: "Scott D. Yelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24760 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24761 by: "Scott D. Yelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Unique situation?
24740 by: Marco Leeflang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24743 by: Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24757 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24763 by: Todd at NM Technet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24785 by: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Writing to /dev/null
24741 by: Christopher Seawood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24742 by: Greg Haverkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Moving qmail to new server
24747 by: "Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24748 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Qmail recieving mail
24749 by: "Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24750 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24751 by: Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24752 by: Greg Owen {gowen} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Qmail and Open-SMTP
24754 by: Gordon Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24765 by: Gordon Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24780 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ok. now what...
24764 by: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24776 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
the fun never ends...
24766 by: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24769 by: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24772 by: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
POP goes nothing...logging
24767 by: Doug McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24779 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It's sort of an ezmlm - qmail question.
24768 by: Doug McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
qmail-qmtpd
24770 by: Doug McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24777 by: Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
qmail-send sleeping forever
24771 by: Fabio Ricardo Schmidlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24773 by: Mark Delany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24774 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail 14256 invoked by uid 0
24775 by: Marlon Anthony Abao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Maildir format mailbox
24778 by: BoLiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
nevermind
24781 by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
pop server Help Please
24782 by: "Jason L. Skoland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(no subject)
24783 by: Javed Ahsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
strange problem with qmail
24784 by: Kyle Buttress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Stephen Lavelle writes: > > > I am trying to install qmail on my RH5.2 (kernel 2.0.36) box using the qmail > > Memphis RPM. > > The 3 rpms which go with qmail (functions, daemontools & ucspi-tcp have all > > installed ok > > When i try and install the qmail-1.03-11ucspi.i386.rpm i get : > > "failed dependencies - sendmail conflicts with qmail" > > If i try to uninstalled sendmail i get: > > " sendmail provides smtp daemon - > > fetchmail requires smtp daemon > > mutt requires smtp daemon > > nmh requires smtp daemon" > > I will need fetchmail to collect mail from my isp > > (note: i am not at present using the linux box for mail - but intend to) > > Regards, > > Stephen > > Can any one help me with this? > > You should be able to use the --force option to RPM to forcibly remove > sendmail. After that, the Qmail rpm should install correctly. Sorry�, from what I know, rpm -e --force *.rpm don't work on a rh52 system. Stephen has to uninstall the dependant things (+xmh) before sendmail, at least this is how I do it. Then you should rebuild the source *.rpm's you need like: rpm -ivvh *.src.rpm rpm -bb /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/*.spec rpm -Uvvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/*.rpm Personally I don't use any of the mentioned softwares (exept qmail:)), at the console I use "pine", that's all. But I may switch to "mutt". I hope this helps. -- Kindest Regards//Oden Eriksson CNE+MCSE UIN: 952113
> > Sorry�, from what I know, rpm -e --force *.rpm don't work on a rh52 > system. "--force" is an install option. To remove an installed package on which other packages depend you need "--nodeps" eg. rpm -e --nodeps sendmail $ man rpm UNINSTALL OPTIONS The general form of an rpm uninstall command is rpm -e <package_name>+ [snip] --nodeps Don't check dependencies before uninstalling the packages. R. > > Stephen has to uninstall the dependant things (+xmh) before > sendmail, at least this is how I do it. Then you should rebuild the > source *.rpm's you need like: No he doesn't. And neither do you! > Kindest Regards//Oden Eriksson CNE+MCSE ^^^ Ah, this explains the "uninstall + reinstall everything" approach :o) R. -- Robin Bowes - System Development Manager - Room 405A E.O.C., Overseas House, Quay St., Manchester, M3 3HN, UK. Tel: +44 161 838 8321 Fax: +44 161 835 1657
Stephen, I just went through this the other weekend so here's what you need to do. 1. Remove the sendmail rpm with --force (don't worry everything seems to work after you put qmail on) 2. Install the qmail RPM's The above worked for me.... Or I suppose you could just install the Qmail rpm's with the --force, but I never tried that... --Dave >I am trying to install qmail on my RH5.2 (kernel 2.0.36) box using the qmail >Memphis RPM. >The 3 rpms which go with qmail (functions, daemontools & ucspi-tcp have all >installed ok >When i try and install the qmail-1.03-11ucspi.i386.rpm i get : >"failed dependencies - sendmail conflicts with qmail" >If i try to uninstalled sendmail i get: >" sendmail provides smtp daemon - >fetchmail requires smtp daemon >mutt requires smtp daemon >nmh requires smtp daemon" >I will need fetchmail to collect mail from my isp >(note: i am not at present using the linux box for mail - but intend to) >Regards, >Stephen >Can any one help me with this? > >Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd. >~ Australian Tanned Wet Blue Leather ~ >110 Heales Road, >Lara, Geelong, Australia >3212 >Tel:++(03)52742232 >Fax:++(03)52742350 >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >powered by Linux >http://www.linux.org >http://www.redhat.com >http://www.debian.org > >The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential >and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended >recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not >disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are >asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your >assistance is appreciated. > > >
I want to bounce mail from a level 2 domain name and all it's hostnames and subdomains. How can I do that? I have no access to the incoming MX host so I can block the domain there. I see no other way to do it than using badmailfrom on my local machine. -- Med venlig hilsen / Regards Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group UNI-C Tlf./Phone +45 35 87 89 41 Mail: UNI-C Fax. +45 35 87 89 90 Bygning 304 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DK-2800 Lyngby
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 11:20:22AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote: > I want to bounce mail from a level 2 domain name and all > it's hostnames and subdomains. How can I do that? > > I have no access to the incoming MX host so I can block > the domain there. I see no other way to do it than using > badmailfrom on my local machine. qmail only supports @domain @host.domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] for badmailfrom. But AFAIK there's a patch on http://www.qmail.org/ for a wildcard (regex?) version of a badmailfrom file. \Maex -- SpaceNet GmbH | http://www.Space.Net/ | Yeah, yo mama dresses Research & Development | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | you funny and you need Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Tel: +49 (89) 32356-0 | a mouse to delete files D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 |
As I have mentioned in several of my postings to this group, my company is in the process of migrating over 48,000 users from NTMail (not netshoppers version, but a custom one they had designed). We are looking at qMail and Sendmail. My preference is to go with qMail, but the vote is not totally mine. Can anyone give me some solid - documented reasons why qMail would be a better solution for us? (We are looking at heavy modifications to either flavors, so that is not an issue - we are using a portal product that is totally SQL driven, and all daemons will have to authenticate from it - also, we will be using a hashed dir structure (5 layers deep) for the users Maildir(s)). Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------ James Beam Support PDQ.net ENTECH.com http://www.pdq.net http://www.entech.com ------------------------------------------------------------------
The modifications come into play with regards to the local delivery process needing to query the SQL database for the homedir of the local user. This program will not have any local file (passwd or other) to check against. Personaly, I hate sendmail, but most of my peers love it, and I am fighting an uphill battle to push this through. We have to be able to scale to over 150,000 users in a little under 2 years time. I was just wondering if anyone had some documented proof that qmail can handle this kind of load (multihome system of course). Thanks for your response. -----Original Message----- From: Evan Champion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 7:23 AM To: Jim Beam Subject: Re: Help - I am fighting with old ideologies... > As I have mentioned in several of my postings to this group, my company > is in the process of migrating over 48,000 users from NTMail (not > netshoppers version, but a custom one they had designed). We are looking > at qMail and Sendmail. My preference is to go with qMail, but the vote > is not totally mine. Can anyone give me some solid - documented reasons > why qMail would be a better solution for us? (We are looking at heavy > modifications to either flavors, so that is not an issue - we are using > a portal product that is totally SQL driven, and all daemons will have > to authenticate from it - also, we will be using a hashed dir structure > (5 layers deep) for the users Maildir(s)). If it helps any, I don't see either as being "heavy modifications" with respect to qmail. In fact, I don't even see where you'd need modifications because qmail innately supports the features you need. You'll just have to write your own checkpassword program for POP user authentication. See http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.txt for one idea on solving your problem. Evan
I've been using qmail for several years in a similar situation. We have about 80K mailboxes and do a bit over 500K deliveries per day. Your user database won't require any heavy modifications to qmail - just supply your own checkpassword and qmail-getpw modules. Should take less than a day for an experienced coder to get something working. We find it sufficient to simply export our user database to the users/assign mechanism, so we just use vanilla qmail for the most part. Qmail performs fine for us, much preferred over sendmail. Use of maildir storage lets us grow in a very modular manner, no more forklift upgrades. Qmail is also the only (free) MTA that has active work being done for scaling up performance yet again, with the zeroseek concept. As it is modular (as opposed to Sendmail's monolithic approach) you may find the need for several different modules a bit confusing at first. You'll need the ucspi-tcp package, the daemontools package, and probably qmail-analog and rblsmtpd as well. If you can't use qmail, please try postfix to satisfy the sendmail crowd. I can't see any reason why someone would install sendmail these days unless someone else is holding a weapon pointed at them ;-] -- Jeff Hayward On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Jim Beam wrote: As I have mentioned in several of my postings to this group, my company is in the process of migrating over 48,000 users from NTMail (not netshoppers version, but a custom one they had designed). We are looking at qMail and Sendmail. My preference is to go with qMail, but the vote is not totally mine. Can anyone give me some solid - documented reasons why qMail would be a better solution for us? (We are looking at heavy modifications to either flavors, so that is not an issue - we are using a portal product that is totally SQL driven, and all daemons will have to authenticate from it - also, we will be using a hashed dir structure (5 layers deep) for the users Maildir(s)). Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------ James Beam Support PDQ.net ENTECH.com http://www.pdq.net http://www.entech.com ------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 08:20:08AM -0500, Jim Beam wrote: > The modifications come into play with regards to the local delivery > process needing to query the SQL database for the homedir of the local This is easily done with stock qmail. No modifications to code should be necessary. Because of its design, qmail allows one to be very imaginative. If you have time, look through the archives for some very elegant solutions to weird problems. I have found that qmail has helped me think of MTAs and unix in a different way, and has helped my programming skills in unusual ways. > user. This program will not have any local file (passwd or other) to > check against. Personaly, I hate sendmail, but most of my peers love it, > and I am fighting an uphill battle to push this through. We have to be > able to scale to over 150,000 users in a little under 2 years time. I > was just wondering if anyone had some documented proof that qmail can > handle this kind of load (multihome system of course). I have heard on this list, of people using qmail with 1,000,000 or more users. 150,000 should be no problem. One of the things I would add about qmail is that the code is very modular, and well written. Even if you do have to modify any code, it would be quite simple. I myself am nowhere near a C programmer, and just barely manage some Perl, but on occasion I've had to change little bits of qmail code, and I've managed without help so far. I'm sure a competent C programmer would be able to breeze though any modifications easily. -- System Administrator See complete headers for address, homepage and phone numbers
Jim Beam writes: > Can anyone give me some solid - documented reasons why qMail would > be a better solution for us? (We are looking at heavy modifications > to either flavors, so that is not an issue - we are using a portal > product that is totally SQL driven, and all daemons will have to > authenticate from it - also, we will be using a hashed dir > structure (5 layers deep) for the users Maildir(s)). I think your parenthesized explanation is the best reason to go with qmail. With qmail, no modifications are needed. You'll have to write your own checkpassword, and qmail-getpw, but they are 132 lines and 88 lines respectively. Not exactly rocket science, even after you include the code to query your SQL database. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
Roger Merchberger wrote: > >And finally, this is what I have in /var/qmail/alias/envtest.pl: > > > >#!/usr/local/bin/perl > > [proggie snip] > > >foreach $quack (@ENV) { > > print Q "\$ENV - $quack = $ENV{$quack}\n"; > >} @ENV, what's that? Try this: while(my($k,$v)=each %ENV){ print Q "\$ENV - $k = $v\n"; } -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Is that... Is that actually fun? For you?" -- Asked of a passing unicyclist
On or about 01:05 PM 4/26/99 +0100, Peter Haworth was caught in a dark alley speaking these words: >Roger Merchberger wrote: >> >And finally, this is what I have in /var/qmail/alias/envtest.pl: >> > >> >#!/usr/local/bin/perl >> >> [proggie snip] >> >> >foreach $quack (@ENV) { >> > print Q "\$ENV - $quack = $ENV{$quack}\n"; >> >} > >@ENV, what's that? Try this: > > while(my($k,$v)=each %ENV){ > print Q "\$ENV - $k = $v\n"; > } Erm... Yea, I did send a message saying I had found my errors, now my script works fine. Amazing what bugs creep in when you code after a 14 hour day, and how you find 'em only after you step away from the code for 1/2 hour... Tho I do know what OOP programming is, I'm not very fluent in it, and if anyone needs a Perl4 compatible chunk o'code, this is what I ended up with: =========== foreach $quack ( keys(%ENV) ) { print Q "ENV - $quack = $ENV{$quack}\n"; } =========== Thanks... sometimes I can use all the help I can get! Roger "Merch" Merchberger ===== Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SysAdmin - Iceberg Computers ===== Merch's Wild Wisdom of the Moment: ===== Sometimes you know, you just don't know sometimes, you know?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I wonder what software to use to have a qmail mailing list indexed >online in html format ? I use MHonArc, http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html, to convert to HTML, and OpenText (commercial) for the index and search engine. -Dave
shall i take the silence of the list to mean that i've stumped even the qmail gurus? or have i missed something in the faq that will solve my whole problem? In case the problem is the former, let me provide you with more information. my address "@earthling.net" is a service provided by iname.com so you never have to change your email address. it bounces your email from their server to an email account you designate, in my case "@geocities.com". I then send fetchmail out to retrieve my mail from the geocities account. fetchmail then deposits the mail on qmail using the mda option of sendmail emulation. when fetchmail gets it, it logs in /var/log/maillog who the mail is from and where it's going to. fetchmail is logging the correct From: and To:. qmail however is rewriting the headers to look like this: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 16 01:05:44 1999 -0400 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recieved: (qmail 16625 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Apr 1999 01:05:43 -0000 Date 16 Apr 1999 01:05:43 -000 [...] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Status:RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18891 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:00:50 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.geocities.com by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.0.0) for sungo@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.upn.net by smv18.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1SMV) with ESTMP id UAA16582 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sebastian.slashdot.org by mercury.upn.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 728CF2C5A4 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:59:49 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 24 Hours of Slashdot Headlines For sungo Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:59:49 -0700 (PDT) any thoughts anyone? (sorry for the long spamish email) hope this info helps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > shall i take the silence of the list to mean that i've stumped even the > qmail gurus? > fetchmail then deposits the mail on qmail using the mda option of sendmail > emulation. The following is an indication of improper or missing headers in the mail that fetchmail sends using /usr/lib/sendmail. Replace /usr/lib/sendmail with a program that simply records its arguments and stdin, then examine that information. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
You wrote: >"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > shall i take the silence of the list to mean that i've stumped even >the >> qmail gurus? >> fetchmail then deposits the mail on qmail using the mda option of >sendmail >> emulation. >The following is an indication of improper or missing headers in the >mail that fetchmail sends using /usr/lib/sendmail. Replace >/usr/lib/sendmail with a program that simply records its arguments and >stdin, then examine that information. >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: recipient list not shown: ; ok. so how do i go about doing this? i'm rather new to smtp, qmail, and the whole ball of wax. thanx again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >The following is an indication of improper or missing headers in the > >mail that fetchmail sends using /usr/lib/sendmail. Replace > >/usr/lib/sendmail with a program that simply records its arguments and > >stdin, then examine that information. > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Cc: recipient list not shown: ; > > ok. so how do i go about doing this? i'm rather new to smtp, qmail, and > the whole ball of wax. thanx again. My personal recommendation is to scrap fetchmail. It is a bloated pig, that tries to juggle too many balls at the same time. The POP3 protocol is simple enough that you can implement a POP3 client in Perl, or any other rudimentary script. Write your own POP3 client, and be done with it. I use my own POP3 client that I wrote three years ago, in C++, but I don't maintain it any more. It does it's job, and nothing more. Doesn't try to parse header, or implement an SMTP client, just grabs the E-mail from the POP3 server, and puts it into the mailbox. That's what POP3 clients should do, IMO. -- Sam
"Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "My personal recommendation is to scrap fetchmail. [...] Write your own POP3 client, and be done with it." Nice in theory. Problem is this: sungo only knows Fortran at this point (free credit hours) though I'm going to teach myself Perl this summer. Is there anyway I can get a temporary version of what you suggested to hold me over until I know enough Perl to write my own? searched freshmeat and linuxapps to find only bastardized versions of fetchmail and scripts to tell me if i *have* mail, not to go get the mail itself and inject it straight in the mailbox. any thoughts? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "My personal recommendation is to scrap fetchmail. [...] Write your own POP3 > client, and be done with it." > > Nice in theory. Problem is this: sungo only knows Fortran at this point > (free credit hours) though I'm going to teach myself Perl this summer. Is > there anyway I can get a temporary version of what you suggested to hold > me over until I know enough Perl to write my own? searched freshmeat and > linuxapps to find only bastardized versions of fetchmail and scripts to > tell me if i *have* mail, not to go get the mail itself and inject it > straight in the mailbox. any thoughts? http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5799/getpop3.README.html is my bare-bones POP3 client. This is the first thing I ever wrote after liberating my PC by loading Linux. -- Sam
Dear Group, I am trying to set up the following on a Virtual Domain System. I want to have multiple domains running off of the same IP Address. Each domain will have all its email forwarded to some off site email address. I figured that I would just create a .qmail-domain-com-default file with the email address in it inside the alias directory, but I get an error from QMAIL saying that itcannot find a mail exchanger for that ip address. Any tips on how to do this would be most appreciated Regards, Julian L.C. Brown Interware.Net Inc. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interware.net
"Julian L.C. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am trying to set up the following on a Virtual Domain System. I want to >have multiple domains running off of the same IP Address. Each domain will >have all its email forwarded to some off site email address. I figured >that I would just create a .qmail-domain-com-default file with the email >address in it inside the alias directory, but I get an error from QMAIL >saying that itcannot find a mail exchanger for that ip address. Any tips >on how to do this would be most appreciated You haven't given enough information for us to provide any nontrivial help. 1) What did you do? Specifically, which config files did you modify, and what did you put in them. Don't say "..create a .qmail-domain-com-default file with the email address...", say, "I did echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] >/var/qmail/alias/.qmail-example-com-default". Don't leave anything out; e.g., what, if anything, did you put in /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains? Don't "sanitize" your data: if the domain in question is foobar.com, don't call it "domain.com". The output of "qmail-showctl" is often useful. It often helps to know what OS/hardware/qmail release you're running, too. 2) What did you expect to happen? Describe the details of your test. 3) What actually happened? The detailed results of the test, including log file snippets and copies of messages, including headers, if appropriate. Details, details, details. Usually, overly general requests are ignored on this list because we don't have the time/desire to coerce information out of people who don't provide even the basics when asking a question. -Dave
For those that believe in patching qmail heavily due to being in an environment like an ISP where almost anything has to go, what patches are you using? Please reply privately as I don't want a discussion about the moral aspects. Thanks for the time andy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Walden Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator, Pers Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTCO Communications Phone: (800) 859-6826 " Reality is just Chaos with better lighting. "
Im setting up my mail server but i dont have a valid domain name. will qmail work via ip like [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? or do i have to have a valide domain name to get it to work correctly?
"Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Im setting up my mail server but i dont have a valid domain name. will >qmail work via ip like [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? or do >i have to have a valide domain name to get it to work correctly? The system qmail is installed on has to have a domain, but it doesn't need to be valid, it can be made up. qmail does have to have access to a nameserver, though. Also, the correct syntax for mail to IP addresses is "user@[ip-address]". -Dave
+ "Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | Im setting up my mail server but i dont have a valid domain name. | will qmail work via ip like [EMAIL PROTECTED] | <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? or do i have to have a valide domain | name to get it to work correctly? me@[999.999.999.99] might have a chance to work provided 999 is smaller than 255. You may need to put [999.999.999.99] in your control/locals file. I have not tested any of this advice. - Harald
Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 24 April 1999 at 12:32:18 +0200 > Hi there all, > > My Name is Oden and I'm new to this list and a Linux newbie, but > I'm very enthusiastic!. > > I have run a small web hotel (more of a "private" solution) for > months now using Linux Mandrake v5.3 (RedHat v5.2 + KDE v1.1) > + Summersoft's "qmail-1.03-7.src.rpm" + "qmail-imap-4.5.beta- > 2.src.rpm". Everything's running just fine but... I have an open > relay... I got a e-mail from "The Open Relay Behaviour-modification > System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" telling me someone may have used > my server for spamming or something... My server was added to > the "ORBS database" (what in the hell ever that is...). It's a database that many systems (mine, for example) check before accepting an SMTP connection. I don't accept email routed through open relays. This has cut down on my spam considerably, plus it provides some additional incentive for the people operating open relays to get them closed down. Being listed in the ORBS means you and your users can't send email to various places. It *also* may mean that spammers looking for an open relay to exploit can easily find you. You think it's trouble to be in ORBS -- wait till you see the mail you get if you're actually exploited for a big spam! > I've seen many posts about the Open Relay thing, but I guess I'm > just too stupid to understand... I just cannot figure out a way to let > my users use the smtp server without beeing an "open relay". > > My users are all having dial up connections with dynamic ip > addresses. I have no dial in feature. > > The solutions I've seen so far on this list (and in the archive) is > either _very_ complex or they won't cut it in the long run. What to > do ? > > Why can't it just be like the pop thing..., you are required to pass a > password to access the thing... Well, the SMTP protocol as originally defined doesn't have any sort of authentication in it. If it did, how would two unrelated systems ever manage to exchange email in the first place? The problem really is that it's being used by the pop clients for a purpose it was never designed for -- injecting email from "local" users. > I have tried using the rcpthosts file but soon realized that I had to > add every damn domain my users would send an e-mail to, to this > file. This I will _never_ do..., it's too much work. This shows you're misunderstanding it. There are a bunch of explanations out there, but here's the very short summary: Things get confused if users you think of as "local" are actually submitting their outbound mail from other systems using SMTP (as is the case with nearly all POP clients). If you're in this situation, you need to enable relaying for the IP addresses that those submissions come from. You do this by using tcpserver to set an environment variable based on the IP address. What rcpthosts lists is systems that you accept mail for from real remote users (not the funny case of local users submitting mail via smtp, described above). It's to control *inbound* mail, not outbound. If the users you need to relay for are dynamic IP addresses at various places, you're in trouble. One solution is the "SMTP after POP" solution, where after they authenticate using POP relaying is turned on for their IP address for a period of time. The correct solution, however, is for dynamic IP users to use the outbound mail server of the ISP they get their IP from. The POP and SMTP servers are configured separately in every popmail client I've seen, so you can point your POP server at the system where your mail actually resides, and the SMTP server at the nearest mailserver. They do not have to be the same. Another solution would be to use SSH and have them tunnel the SMTP connection through the net to your local system. This is perhaps in the category "complicated" for many users. -- David Dyer-Bennet [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ddb.com/~ddb (photos, sf) Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ The Ouroboros Bookworms Join the 20th century before it's too late!
Ive been trying to setup my mail server to send and recieve mail. I set a mail message out to my self from pine to another server outside of my network. this is a snip of the log sending it out. <------snip-------> Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.436524 new msg 45155 Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.457031 info msg 45155: bytes 462 from < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > qp 7258 uid 0 Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.533203 starting delivery 10: msg 45155 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.534180 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.041016 delivery 10: failure: Connected_to_207.217.120.28_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_h$ Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.083985 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.142578 bounce msg 45155 qp 7260 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.144531 end msg 45155 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.233399 new msg 45156 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.258789 info msg 45156: bytes 1108 from <> qp 7260 uid 509 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.306641 starting delivery 11: msg 45156 to remote [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.307617 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.338867 delivery 11: failure: Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_.www.mooneyhamco.com._($ Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.340820 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.417969 bounce msg 45156 qp 7262 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.419922 end msg 45156 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.422852 new msg 45155 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.423828 info msg 45155: bytes 1614 from <#@[]> qp 7262 uid 509 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.530274 starting delivery 12: msg 45155 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.531250 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.976563 delivery 12: success: did_0+0+1/ Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.978516 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.980469 end msg 45155 <------end of snip-------> i dont quite know whats goin on. Pine never gave me a error message and i figured its going out. when i send a message into my server i get an error saying that i was indaliverable. can someone please help. thanks
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > qp 7258 uid 0 > Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.533203 starting delivery 10: msg 45155 to > remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.534180 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.041016 delivery 10: failure: > Connected_to_207.217.120.28_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_h$ The remote system is probably rejecting the "mailto:[email protected]" address. Try fixing that address in pine first. You might want to use qmail-inject and send a test message instead. > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.083985 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.142578 bounce msg 45155 qp 7260 > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.144531 end msg 45155 > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.233399 new msg 45156 > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.258789 info msg 45156: bytes 1108 from <> > qp 7260 uid 509 > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.306641 starting delivery 11: msg 45156 to > remote [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.307617 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 > Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.338867 delivery 11: failure: > Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_.www.mooneyhamco.com._($ Same as above.. look at the return address in pine.. that probably what is doing it.. -- |---------------------------------|----------------------------| | Hitesh Patel | Voice: (541) 759-3126 | | Facilities Development Manager | Fax: (541) 759-3214 | | Preferred Systems | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---------------------------------|----------------------------|
"Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Ive been trying to setup my mail server to send and recieve mail. I set a >mail message out to my self from pine to another server outside of my >network. this is a snip of the log sending it out. OK, you sent a message to two remote systems, or one local, one remote? ><------snip-------> >Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.436524 new msg 45155 >Apr 26 09:59:16 qmail: 925145956.457031 info msg 45155: bytes 462 from < >[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > qp 7258 uid 0 First problem is the from address: [email protected]. The "." after the "@" shouldn't be there. Second problem is the mailto: nonsense. Presumably that's not really in your log file. Did your MUA do that? >Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.041016 delivery 10: failure: >Connected_to_207.217.120.28_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_h$ One of the copies bounced, apparently because of the extra "a" in the from address. >Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.306641 starting delivery 11: msg 45156 to >remote [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >Apr 26 09:59:17 qmail: 925145957.338867 delivery 11: failure: >Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_.www.mooneyhamco.com._($ The other one bounced because the "to" address also has the extra ".". Check your pine and/or qmail configuration for the name with the extra ".". qmail-showctl output would have indicated whether or not the problem was in qmail's configuration. -Dave
Sorry i also should note that im using REDHAT 5.2 on a Alpha 200/4 and qmail version qmail -1.03
I think im just going to go through the whole setup agian from scratch. Can someone give me a good place to get documantation from start to finish to get this thing up and working. I also have to let you know Im very new at this. So any help you can give me would be good help thanks you guys you have been very helpful.
"Durham, Kenneth J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think im just going to go through the whole setup agian from scratch. Can >someone give me a good place to get documantation from start to finish to >get this thing up and working. I also have to let you know Im very new at >this. So any help you can give me would be good help thanks you guys you >have been very helpful. I recommend installing from the original tarball, not an RPM. Unpack the tarball, read all the README*/INSTALL* files, do the build, *read* the man pages--they're short, but very information dense and exceedingly important. At this point, you're ready to think about installing the binaries and building/installing other necessary packages such as daemontools, ucpspi-tcp, etc. Good luck. If you come here prepared and willing to work and learn, you'll find we're pretty helpful. -Dave
Durham, Kenneth J writes: > I think im just going to go through the whole setup agian from scratch. Can > someone give me a good place to get documantation from start to finish to > get this thing up and working. I also have to let you know Im very new at > this. So any help you can give me would be good help thanks you guys you > have been very helpful. Read INSTALL, and take it a step at a time. -- Sam
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Sam wrote: > Durham, Kenneth J writes: > > I think im just going to go through the whole setup agian from scratch. Can > > someone give me a good place to get documantation from start to finish to > > get this thing up and working. I also have to let you know Im very new at > > this. So any help you can give me would be good help thanks you guys you > > have been very helpful. > Read INSTALL, and take it a step at a time. Wonderful. Actually, I don't have another host to play on. I managed to get rblsmtp going, but I've since lost the convolvuted command that I used to start the process and I can not find my notes on how to do it. I am trying to put together a Sun LX to play with so I can install and uninstall Qmail over and over until I understand the quirks. I'm not sure if "read the INSTALL" is all I will have to say when I am done. I will glady put this information up on the web, but it may not be available for a few days. Scott -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNyToKVvCesh4C4FtAQFUzwP/aCDSq5vxBO2QOjz0NTHekQYtWu34ZKH8 0GuNRitefTrJAPL5ucRnbOOZ64qvW9m4dhWuF/QuL+/NKBElQU7E9UedDLYhg41i F0Xp7vjPmnWOAJtIHQYFoNNXsJNlTymOB8OYty/A2gcv8Gn7L+XUZLSMWqELsfdn wDzau3KQL60= =icp2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Scott D. Yelich writes: > On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Sam wrote: > > > Read INSTALL, and take it a step at a time. > > Wonderful. > > Actually, I don't have another host to play on. I managed to get > rblsmtp going, but I've since lost the convolvuted command that I used > to start the process and I can not find my notes on how to do it. I am > trying to put together a Sun LX to play with so I can install and > uninstall Qmail over and over until I understand the quirks. I'm not > sure if "read the INSTALL" is all I will have to say when I am done. Well, back in the hazy dawn of time, I recall that INSTALL was all I needed to get Qmail running. Short, sweet, and to the point. -- Sam
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Well, back in the hazy dawn of time, I recall that INSTALL was all I needed > to get Qmail running. > Short, sweet, and to the point. Well, I was just being... you know, myself. The point is, to get QMAIL installed, yes, the INSTALL seems to work - -- but does it work without gotchas for a *reinstall*? as was the question? But, alas, since I wanted to use "qmail" ... I've run across things like ucstspi or something (very hard name to remember), tcp-env which was taken over by utpspyscsi (whatever and this wasn't documented), rblsmtpd, daemonstools, yadda yadda. Installing qmail is actually quite easy.. the first time.. if you follow the documentation and all you need is qmail. Beyond that, it's a maze of non-cross referenced programs and documentation. There was some good/considerable work done on a QMAIL HOWTO -- but is also assumes what parts of qmail you want to install, etc. Anyway, enough bitching. It has been beaten well on this list before that if I want to help, I should produce documentation myself. I answer that with ``fine, I will. Now you will have documentation written by a qmail novice who is confused by qmail -- but so be it.'' Scott -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNyTzNlvCesh4C4FtAQH7qgP7BNFU62AUYVD4tzkgEmh1znWHfjGSjLlV WSRapu6j3Kygz1d9mbqMf+T4dpokPTNARCZnfM8uutJ4UY5XQGZoU3Ru91R/WgF0 Uy6LKXPOzz46ma/PaFQ3P3dWgrpxk0pHlgAzzpI3PXCUPJ7tOW4ao1pgjCSLkqbg gNaZfSz/xd0= =cJtT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I've almost the same problem, My home network also use addresses in the 192.168.10.x range and qmail works fine for all local domain's I wan't qmail to collect all external mail and put it in a queue. After a SIGHUP on qmail-send this mail should be delivered to my ISP leeflang.demon.nl . When i send a mail by smtp to qmail i get a response 'sorry, that domain is not in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)'. I have make a ~alias/pppdir with maildirmake and a chmod -R alias ~alias/pppdir so rights are OK. In control/virtualdomains i put a line ":alias-ppp" Whatever i change i still get this message. situation: [netscape users] --smtp--> [qmail] --ppp--> [ISP]---> where ever [ ] <--pop--- [ ] <--smtp-- i trigger qmail-sent every hour from the cron to sent/get mail. marco leeflang Chris Green wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 1999 at 05:24:13PM -0700, Eric Ess wrote: > > > > There's a network 'mycom.com' which is a LAN disconnected from the Internet. We >would like to have a modem on the RedHat Linux + qmail 1.03 server dialup an ISP or >our consultancy's mail server (also RedHat 5.2 + qmail 1.03) directly and exchange >mail (queued email from mycom.com and Internet email queued on our server) two times >a day. Our server has the virtual host 'mycom.com.' The goal is to allow the users of >mycom.com to send and receive Internet email, but only have the Linux server connect >twice a day. How would this be done? Could it be done using serialmail? > > > No, it's far from unique, I mumbled on about this for quite a while a > few months ago. No MTA is perfect for this situation but qmail is > pretty good. > > My home network is called isbd.mynet and uses IP addresses in the > range 192.168.13.x, I use qmail to send and receive mail to/from an > ISP via dialup in almost the manner you describe. > > The only difference in my case is that mail is sent and received > whenever the connection is brought up by another application. I have > a patch to qmail on my system called 'holdremote' which holds mail > queued until you switch off a flag. > > I can't give exact details of my setup from here as I'm at work but if > you'd like to know more then E-Mail my home address below. > > -- > Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 02:51:14AM +0000, Sam wrote: > Configure Qmail normally, except that you'll initialize control/smtproutes > to have all non-local E-mail smarthosted through your ISP's mail server. > > Then, motify the ip-up script to automatically send a SIGHUP to qmail-send > when the connection to the Internet is established, causing all pent up > E-mail to be flushed to the smarthost. It's SIGALRM isn't it? And it won't work, if you are within the 2 minute "timeout" of tcpto ? IMHO it's better to configure qmail to deliver all outgoing email to a Maildir and use the serialmail package (found on djb's website) to send it to the smarthost on dial-out. \Maex -- SpaceNet GmbH | http://www.Space.Net/ | Yeah, yo mama dresses Research & Development | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | you funny and you need Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Tel: +49 (89) 32356-0 | a mouse to delete files D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 |
Markus Stumpf writes: > On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 02:51:14AM +0000, Sam wrote: > > Configure Qmail normally, except that you'll initialize control/smtproutes > > to have all non-local E-mail smarthosted through your ISP's mail server. > > > > Then, motify the ip-up script to automatically send a SIGHUP to qmail-send > > when the connection to the Internet is established, causing all pent up > > E-mail to be flushed to the smarthost. > > It's SIGALRM isn't it? Probably. I'm so used to kicking qmail-send, the fingers move automatically. > And it won't work, if you are within the 2 minute "timeout" of tcpto ? Works for me. > IMHO it's better to configure qmail to deliver all outgoing email to > a Maildir and use the serialmail package (found on djb's website) to > send it to the smarthost on dial-out. Why complicate things? The mail is sitting nicely in the queue, there's one less script that can possibly break, and this really doesn't accomplish anything useful. -- Sam
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Sam wrote: > Why complicate things? The mail is sitting nicely in the queue, there's > one less script that can possibly break, and this really doesn't accomplish > anything useful. there are several excellent reasons to "complicate" things. one is that when mail is delivered to a maildir, quotas can be applied to that directory (this is one of the main reasons to implement serialmail-based solutions. we're currently finishing up a turnmail-style script package that tails a radius accounting file and sends mail to the ip address from a user that just connected--saves a static ip, gets rid of the trouble with etrn (most customers of ours have trouble setting them up) and gets us quotas on total mail in the 'queue' since it's delivered to a maildir). todd
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 09:00:09PM +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 02:51:14AM +0000, Sam wrote: > > Configure Qmail normally, except that you'll initialize control/smtproutes > > to have all non-local E-mail smarthosted through your ISP's mail server. > > > > Then, motify the ip-up script to automatically send a SIGHUP to qmail-send > > when the connection to the Internet is established, causing all pent up > > E-mail to be flushed to the smarthost. > > It's SIGALRM isn't it? > And it won't work, if you are within the 2 minute "timeout" of tcpto ? > > IMHO it's better to configure qmail to deliver all outgoing email to > a Maildir and use the serialmail package (found on djb's website) to > send it to the smarthost on dial-out. > serialmail is one answer but the holdremote patch is much easier to use in the 'normal' dial-up ISP situation. There's far less extra configuration needed. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
I've got a user that wants to dump mail sent to a certain address in his domain. I setup the .qmail-user file so that it would write to /dev/null. I'm not sure if it's working correctly though as I'm getting the following errors in my logs now. 925152389.679874 delivery 9924: deferral: Unable_to_write_/dev/null:_invalid_argument._(#4.3.0)/ Occassionally, mail sent to this dummy address will bounce with that error. I'm currently using qmail 1.03 but I thought that technique worked under 1.00 (last used a couple of yrs ago). Is there some other method that should be used to just dump messages sent to this user@domain? I'd just use procmail but this is a virtual acct that's handled by vchkpw. ----- Christopher Seawood, Aureate Media Corporation System Administrator 8777 Purdue Rd Ste 225 (317) 802-6231 Indianapolis, IN 46268
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Christopher Seawood wrote: > > I've got a user that wants to dump mail sent to a certain address in his > domain. I setup the .qmail-user file so that it would write to /dev/null. > I'm not sure if it's working correctly though as I'm getting the following > errors in my logs now. Just create an appropriate .qmail file containing just "#" (no quotes.) Greg
After building a new qmail server, I now have to transfer everything. I have: - copied /var/qmail/control/* & alias/* - copied /etc/passwd, shadow, group, tcprules, etc. (Did I forget anything?) Now I have to move all user files/dirs to the new server. What is the most safe/secure way to do this? My thoughts: - Stop qmail on the old server (allowing a backup server to accept mail). - Transfer /home to new server: `scp -rp ..` changed all files/directories to root.root ownership. I have been told to try rsync or tar - any better ideas or is one of these the way to go? - Change DNS MX records - Start qmail on new server - ? TIA -wade
Wade writes: > After building a new qmail server, I now have to transfer everything. I > have: > - Stop qmail on the old server (allowing a backup server to accept mail). > - Transfer /home to new server: > - Change DNS MX records No. Change the MX records to the new server first. That way, your users won't notice a service interruption, and you don't need a backup server. It'll just take a little while longer for their mail to appear. Given that the disk takes time to read and write, there's no alternative, unless you've been *really* anal-retentive and have configured users or groups of users with a special name in the DNS for their POP/SMTP servers. Then, you can switch users over to the new server shortly before moving their mail over. I've never had a customer with that much spare time, however. :) If they have that much spare time, they don't need to buy mine. > `scp -rp ..` changed all files/directories to root.root ownership. I have > been told to try rsync or tar - any better ideas or is one of these the way > to go? Safest thing to do is go into each user's Maildir, tar up new/ and cur/, then restore on the new server into their Maildir's tmp/, then rename from tmp/{new,cur}/ into new/ and cur/. Every customer has their own idiosyncrasies. So far I've had to cons up a special script to move the files. Nothing useful to share. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
I was sending a message from an outside server into my qmail box after doing may resinstall. this is the mail that i got returned from the mail server. > -----Original Message--- > > Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. > > Subject: akjdlfkjaldkfjlaskdj > Sent: 4/26/99 1:29 PM > > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: > > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 4/26/99 1:30 PM > The recipient name is not recognized > The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= > ;p=ELN;l=PECOS-990426202922Z-240373 > MSEXCH:IMS:ELN:CORPORATE:PECOS 3553 (000B099C) 553 sorry, that > domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) > i checked the mail log and this is what i pulled from it <------snip--------> Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.761344 new msg 249058 Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.761954 info msg 249058: bytes 1071 from <> qp 2640 uid 508 Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.772714 starting delivery 2: msg 249058 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.773091 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.811196 delivery 2: failure: Sorry._Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-preference_MX_or_A_for$ Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.812313 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.828221 bounce msg 249058 qp 2642 Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.828891 end msg 249058 <---- end of snip------> can someone please help . . .agian!
The address you are sending to is incorrect. Try sending to: creationz@[208.146.216.93] On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Durham, Kenneth J wrote: > I was sending a message from an outside server into my qmail box after doing > may resinstall. this is the mail that i got returned from the mail server. > > > -----Original Message--- > > > > Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. > > > > Subject: akjdlfkjaldkfjlaskdj > > Sent: 4/26/99 1:29 PM > > > > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: > > > > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 4/26/99 1:30 PM > > The recipient name is not recognized > > The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= > > ;p=ELN;l=PECOS-990426202922Z-240373 > > MSEXCH:IMS:ELN:CORPORATE:PECOS 3553 (000B099C) 553 sorry, that > > domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) > > > i checked the mail log and this is what i pulled from it > > <------snip--------> > > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.761344 new msg 249058 > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.761954 info msg 249058: bytes 1071 from > <> qp 2640 uid 508 > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.772714 starting delivery 2: msg 249058 > to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.773091 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.811196 delivery 2: failure: > Sorry._Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-preference_MX_or_A_for$ > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.812313 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.828221 bounce msg 249058 qp 2642 > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.828891 end msg 249058 > <---- end of snip------> > > can someone please help . . .agian! > --------------------------------- Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Administrator localconnect(sm) http://www.localconnect.net/ The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/ One Monroeville Center, Suite 850 Monroeville, PA 15146 (412) 810-8888 Phone (412) 810-8886 Fax
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 01:35:37PM -0700, Durham, Kenneth J wrote: > I was sending a message from an outside server into my qmail box after doing > may resinstall. this is the mail that i got returned from the mail server. > > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 4/26/99 1:30 PM > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.772714 starting delivery 2: msg 249058 > to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] are not valid eMail addresses. Correct would be creationz@[208.146.216.93] root@[208.146.216.93] > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.773091 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 > Mar 20 18:55:22 208 qmail: 827366122.811196 delivery 2: failure: > Sorry._Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-preference_MX_or_A_for$ You have to either list all the hosts that you act as a MX for in locals, or you have to define special deliveries via virtualdomains or smtproutes. How does your locals file look like? \Maex -- SpaceNet GmbH | http://www.Space.Net/ | Yeah, yo mama dresses Research & Development | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | you funny and you need Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Tel: +49 (89) 32356-0 | a mouse to delete files D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 |
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Markus Stumpf wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > are not valid eMail addresses. > Correct would be > root@[208.146.216.93] Addresses of this form cause problems for systems behind firewalls, as (at least sendmail...) interprets [] as 'never mind the relay, deliver directly...' Note I'm not saying that's a bug in anything, but it is a gotcha. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have been trying, rather unsuccessfully, to get open-smtp working over the last few days. My problem is that I have quite a few users that travel world-wide, and they connect to our company using various ISPs. The mail server is based on RedHat 5.9, running kernel 2.2.6. I've compiled checkpassword 0.81, and applied the patches for PAM support and the Open-SMTP patch, then successfully re-compiled. I'm calling the start script /var/qmail/rc from rc.local. My rc script is: #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Maildir/ by default. supervise /var/run/qmail-smtpd \ tcpserver \ -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \ -u 502 \ -g 501 \ -c 100 \ -v \ 0 smtp \ /usr/src/smtp-poplock/relaylock \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \ 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 & tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mailserver.mydomain.com \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir & exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail I'm sure I've messed up here somewhere, but I seem to be going round in circles. Any advice would be appreciated. Gordon Smith MCP Network Administrator - - ----------------------------------------- Compac by Horticultural Automation Ltd Phone Intl + 64 9 634 00 88 Fax Intl + 64 9 634 44 91 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key is available at: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 iQA/AwUBNyQxtBd1+wtRT57SEQI8ewCdFFlUUS2dw/hPpy3cbmyaLEMLdpkAnRfh Yjfz0byIEgb/KD8YasmjQxcj =JVAE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Sawyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:52 AM To: 'Gordon Smith' Subject: RE: Qmail and Open-SMTP Red Hat 5.9? Yes, the new Starbuck release. It should be out as RedHat6 in May, but is available from ftp://ftp.redhat.com now. Has a few annoying changes, but nothing really major. (Not that its been left as a standard install anyway). Basically, I'm now set to change my MX pointer to the new box, as soon as I get this relaying set up. Can't wait for the Qmail book - would definitely be helpful at this point. Cheers, Gordon Smith MCP Network Administrator - ----------------------------------------- Compac by Horticultural Automation Ltd Phone Intl + 64 9 634 00 88 Fax Intl + 64 9 634 44 91 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key is available at: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 iQA/AwUBNyRXmhd1+wtRT57SEQJonwCfWUY+iHrtye1JApwSrcfOk7W8eIIAniOW M3kRdsc8mQjJFOKCW8xv9hg9 =WyCT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Gordon Smith writes: > I have been trying, rather unsuccessfully, to get open-smtp working > over the last few days. > /usr/src/smtp-poplock/relaylock \ What is this doing here? > tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mailserver.mydomain.com \ > /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir & Presumably this is the modified checkpassword? > I'm sure I've messed up here somewhere, but I seem to be going round > in circles. Have you checked to see if /etc/smtp.filter.newer is getting updated? -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
got getpop3. running well. still getting all my mail as coming from myself. getpop3 is dumping the mail to qmail-inject straight. do i need to change that or add cmd line options or something? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > got getpop3. running well. still getting all my mail as coming from > myself. getpop3 is dumping the mail to qmail-inject straight. do i need > to change that or add cmd line options or something? It's coming from yourself because Qmail is rewriting the sender's address according to the environment variables: MAILUSER, MAILHOST, and others. RTFM man qmail-inject, and clear the environment variables: env - getpop3 should do the trick. If you shove getpop3 into your crontab, you shouldn't have the problem because it'll start in a clean environment, unless you initialize your environment variables in bashrc, or an equivalent. -- Sam
ok. so i set up getpop3 and crontab'd it. now, my mail comes from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". this *has* to be qmail. what's the deal here folks? do i need to add some cmd line option to qmail-inject when getpop3 runs it? this is getting annoying. help! :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Doug McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "Is the crontab owned by root or you?" It was owned by root, now is owned by me. same %*#&@'ing error. "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" "Why, oh why could we not have something clean to troubleshoot like sendmail -v -bv etc... :? :)" because it's on my machine. i always have the worst problems. i don't know why. prob for running windows and m$ products for all those years. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Evan Champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "Did you just chown root's crontab file, or did you make a new crontab under your userid?" i made a /var/spool/cron/crontabs/sungo, owned by sungo, with the proper entry. i have, however, dropped this approach for the moment and gone back to fetchmail. i will illustrate why: with fetchmail: "alyosha qmail [...] info msg 690182: bytes 2644 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" (of course that From: eventually gets mysteriously changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but we'll ignore that for now) with getpop3: "alyosha qmail [...] info msg 691082: bytes 2380 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" don't want getpop3 compounding the problem. fetchmail seems to be getting the mail to qmail correctly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Why ain't this working? /usr/local/bin/supervise /service/pop3 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup cache-ns.duesouth.net /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popbull /var/spool/bulletins /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir | /usr/local/bin/accustamp | /usr/local/bin/setuser qmaill /usr/local/bin/cyclog -s 1000000 -n 5 /servers/log/pop & I'm sure it's something obvious...by the way that popbull program is *nice*. -doug
Doug McClure writes: > Why ain't this working? > > /usr/local/bin/supervise /service/pop3 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v 0 110 > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup cache-ns.duesouth.net /bin/checkpassword > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popbull /var/spool/bulletins > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir | /usr/local/bin/accustamp | > /usr/local/bin/setuser qmaill /usr/local/bin/cyclog -s 1000000 -n 5 > /servers/log/pop & > > I'm sure it's something obvious... Because tcpserver is the only program which prints anything, and it sends it's output to stderr. You need a "2>&1" at the end of the accustamp line. > by the way that popbull program is *nice*. Thanks! /me nods in djb's direction for rewriting /me's pop3d in a modular fashion. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
OK...here's a fun one. I *want* conf-break to be "+" (just a plus sign, no quotes) and have configured qmail thusly. It's happy. Now...how the @#@ do I get ezmlm-idx to recognize that it should be + and not - I've tried nearly every incarnation of + and - and I'm beginning to believe I must have to fix the code, 'cause I can't get past step three of INSTALL. Help ... :) -doug
Is there a practical application where this is used? -doug
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 08:40:32PM -0400, Doug McClure wrote: > Is there a practical application where this is used? So far the only client that talks qmtp (that I know of) is serialqmtp, which comes with Dan's serialmail package. There's been a lot of discussion on the list of ways that mail hosts can advertise that they know how to talk qmtp. Armed with the knowledge that a mail host runs a qmtpd daemon, another host with mail to send to it can send the mail via qmtp rather than smtp. Dan mentioned at some point in the recent past using some sort of magic string in the MX record (though he proposed something different in ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/proto/mxps.txt). But for now, serialqmtp is it. Chris
Hello all, I'v send a message on the server running qmail using mailto and mail (the command line ones) and now the qmail-send sleeps forever. The queue has more than 340Mb of stucked messages at this point (around 23000 messages). I've found a similar problem on the researching the files of this list, mas the solution for that case don't apply to me. The file /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger is ok. total 1 -rw------- 1 qmails qmail 0 Apr 3 16:49 sendmutex -rw-r--r-- 1 qmailr qmail 1024 Apr 26 20:50 tcpto prw-r--r-- 1 qmails qmail 0 Apr 26 20:18 trigger Does anybody know how to solve this problem? -- F�bio Ricardo Schmidlin Tecnico de Redes ___________________________________ Softone Consultores Associados Ltda E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.softone.com.br /"\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \
At 08:44 PM Monday 4/26/99, Fabio Ricardo Schmidlin wrote: >Hello all, > > >I'v send a message on the server running qmail using mailto and mail (the >command line ones) and now the qmail-send sleeps forever. The queue has more >than 340Mb of stucked messages at this point (around 23000 messages). What makes you think it is sleeping? Did you process trace it? If so, why don't you show us this output? Did you draw any conclusions from the log files? If so, what are they? And, why not show them to us? I've found that there are no really good psychics on this list so most of us actually need hard information to deal with rather than "it doesn't work, do you know why". Regards. > >I've found a similar problem on the researching the files of this list, mas the >solution for that case don't apply to me. The file >/var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger is ok. > >total 1 >-rw------- 1 qmails qmail 0 Apr 3 16:49 sendmutex >-rw-r--r-- 1 qmailr qmail 1024 Apr 26 20:50 tcpto >prw-r--r-- 1 qmails qmail 0 Apr 26 20:18 trigger > > >Does anybody know how to solve this problem? > > >-- > Fabio Ricardo Schmidlin > Tecnico de Redes >___________________________________ >Softone Consultores Associados Ltda >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.softone.com.br > > /"\ > \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML > X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL > / \ >
Your trigger file doesn't look good to me. Try: prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Apr 26 17:55 trigger Aram On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 08:44:13PM -0300, Fabio Ricardo Schmidlin wrote: > Hello all, > > > I'v send a message on the server running qmail using mailto and mail (the > command line ones) and now the qmail-send sleeps forever. The queue has more > than 340Mb of stucked messages at this point (around 23000 messages). > > I've found a similar problem on the researching the files of this list, mas the > solution for that case don't apply to me. The file > /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger is ok. > > total 1 > -rw------- 1 qmails qmail 0 Apr 3 16:49 sendmutex > -rw-r--r-- 1 qmailr qmail 1024 Apr 26 20:50 tcpto > prw-r--r-- 1 qmails qmail 0 Apr 26 20:18 trigger > > > Does anybody know how to solve this problem? > > > -- > F�bio Ricardo Schmidlin > Tecnico de Redes > ___________________________________ > Softone Consultores Associados Ltda > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.softone.com.br > > /"\ > \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML > X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL > / \ >
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Is this normal? if not, under what circumstances would this happen?
-marlon
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Hi I'm trying to use the qmail-imap package from ftp://ftp.engr.uark.edu/pub/qmail/qmail-imap/ I encounted some problem, I can't creat a Maildir (cur,new,tmp) format mailbox from the client side, after I creat a new folder from the netscape, I just got a plain text file unde my home directory. Does anyone has some advise or please tell me is there and document about this package beside the README.maildir? BTW, I'm using a RedHat 5.2 box, and a netscape messanger Thanks a lot ---- BoLiang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanx for all the help but i've dumped qmail. i've "rtfm man qmail-inject" a bizzilion times but that doesn't help me see the forest for the trees. i just set a much better solution to the problem that worked out of the box in about 5 minutes. as opposed to the days and hours i've spent trying to get qmail to work. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foco Theory | It is not necessary to wait until revolutionary | conditions have developed, since a dedicated | Matt Cashner small group can ignite a revolution, thus creating | [EMAIL PROTECTED] both the uprising and the conditions which make | it possible. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am having the hardest time trying to figure out how to make my Linux system a mail server.. It surely can not be that hard but I can not find what I am looking for... Tell you what I am going to do (or want to do).. I live in a small town and I have a dedicated line to the internet... All I want to do is let a few of my friends dial my system to access the internet plus get E-Mail.. Now I know no Linux is the shit but this seems way to difficult for something so simple.. If anybody could please direct me into the right direction I would be most gratefulThank youJason
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HiI'm having a strange problem with qmail and delivery?
On one day the mail gets delivered to a particular virtualdomain user and the net day the same user gets a failure notice.
I'm using qmail-1.03
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