Fred Lindberg writes:
 > On 19 Jan 1999 20:11:56 -0000, Russell Nelson wrote:
 > 
 > >Okay, VERP has solved the bounce problem.  Now we need VERB (Variable
 > >Envelope Recipient in Body) to solve the unsubscribe problem.
 > >Basically, we need qmail-remote to merge the envelope recipient into
 > >the message somewhere.  The problem, of course, is *where* to insert
 > 
 > I think the substitution idea is good, but putting it into the message
 > is Not Good (TM). qmail should not under any circumstances corrupt the
 > message, which might contain any character sequence.

Right, that's the conundrum.  It has to be in the body to be useful,
yet it cannot be in the body.  Maybe a magical header which means
"When you see X, substitute the envelope recipient"?  Like this:

VERB-Substitute: 4jiu%8@#l

No header, no body munging.

 > Putting it into the header circumvents that problem. Also, the amount
 > of text that has to be parsed is limited this way. Yes, there are
 > disadvantages (stupid subscribers), but that's less important than
 > message integrity.

It's more a matter of ignorant than stupid (ignorant returns a 4XX
error; stupid is a 5XX error :).  No matter; the cost of correcting
the ignorance means that the list gets extraneous messages.  It is
this problem I expect VERB to fix.

 > For subscribers, you could to a message trailer add "see
 > List-Unsubscribe: header for info on how to unsubscribe". As Sen Nagata
 > pointed out on the ezmlm list, rfc2069 may not be such a bad idea, and
 > good MUAs will rapidly support it once it's used more. ezmlm would
 > support this "out of the box".

Is rfc2069 in effect now?  Is it an Internet Standards track RFC?  Or
just an Informational RFC like my RFCs?

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