Hi

Boy, have I been enjoying reading my mail lately :-)

OK, let's kill the thread.
My purpose was to have the right warnings popup in the
mailinglist's searchengine for the rookie type of 'rpm & go'
user (like me) considering to install qmail. I've just tried the
searchengine, & I'm happy to say, I succeeded. Thanks guys.

A few [OFF] responses to all the heat:

* The main problem was the RPM. Some people helped me look at the
installation, and it's messy what I have here... the docs don't
match the man pages, I've got different versions of different programs,
some stuff seems missing. This may account for why fastforward and
dotforward don't work ... either that or ...the RPM engine may be acting up
... :-(

* A word about me: yes, it's a small office and I don't get paid to be
sysadmin.
Generally, I just tie all the machines together and keep an eye on things.
We bought
ourselves a linux box few years ago. Occassionaly, we've hired a Guru to
configure ..
sendmail ! .... right :-)  Cost you money. Qmail could be the solution ...
it seems.

On the counterpart, a few complaining users are not such a pain to me as
they are to you
SuperUsers, in this small office.

But I don't think I'm the "moron" I claimed myself to be. I know the
difference between
sendmail and xmail ... it's no thing a quick look at the RedHat Book
wouldn't tell too.
Deinstalling sendmail (which is obligatory for the RPM ... either with
--force or by hand)
felt much like taking the wheels of a driving car.

 What's more, I don't _want_ to be a Guru. Sorry guys, it's not what I do
for a living.
Most of the time trusting the RPM works much better than trying to do it
myself.
I really love RPM, it could be a powerfull thing ... enough rope to hang
yourself


* RedHat does just 'pop out of a box' nowadays. It's shipped with a book
that suggests
you don't really have to read it at all.This may be RH's mistake.  I did
read it. It's empty.

( in fact, I read qmail's docs and mans and studied 'The Big Picture' -
wow, there's a
pp version - before I decided to 'safely'  go for the RPM. I've printed
out half this mailinglist to read it at home. Much of it is just happy
faces. The rest is
quite hebrew if you've never seen a working qmail setup )
I really really really hope RedHat installers will support Qmail in future
releases ...

* Ofcourse I had a backup :-) You don't need 2 machines, use partitions.
But once I had
Qmail working (with some workarounds), the backup was outdated. Mail came in.

* I never said qmail is "SH*T" - in fact, I keep repeating it's great
(without caps).
That's why I installed it. This really makes me wonder: what's it to you ?
Why get angry at  'constructive criticism' ?

Thanks for the responses. I'm looking forward to the O'Reilly book and pretty
interested in what Dave Sill and Chris Green might add ...

Bye
*.P.i.k.e..*


PS oh right, the signature :-) I know it showed up as an ugly mess on your
.."VT100" tty  -s
That is the point ... therefor I mac, right ?









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