qmail Digest 3 Jun 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 660
Topics (messages 26193 through 26235):
qmail configuration as relay-only
26193 by: "Lanik, Laurenz (21)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26195 by: Peter Gradwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26197 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26201 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
control/me
26194 by: "Fre de Vries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26198 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Greeting fails...
26196 by: "Kent Nilsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26202 by: "Tim Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...no mailbox...(#5.1.1) and other stuff
26199 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
tcp wrappers and webmail
26200 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Why 2 tcpserver processes?
26203 by: "G�nthner, Ralf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26205 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26207 by: "G�nthner, Ralf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26208 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26209 by: "G�nthner, Ralf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26210 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26215 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26217 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26219 by: Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26220 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26224 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John R. Levine)
26225 by: "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26226 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26231 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John R. Levine)
Mailing List and Aliases
26204 by: "Tim Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26206 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Antw: Re: Why 2 tcpserver processes?
26211 by: "Ralf Guenthner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26213 by: "Ralf Guenthner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
headers in other languages (simple Y/N)
26212 by: Eric Dahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26214 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26216 by: "Justin M. Streiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Qmail License
26218 by: Dax Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26222 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Authenticating qmail towards a SQL data base
26221 by: Ignacio de Cordoba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26223 by: Thomas Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mailbombs
26227 by: Qmail ML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/home/$USER/Mailbox -> /var/spool/mail/$USER
26228 by: Diego Puertas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Strangeness in 95/98 machine and qmail
26229 by: Bill Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26230 by: Wilson Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Outlook Express and IMAP
26232 by: "Jim Gilliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26233 by: Wilson Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Memphis RPMS?
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Qmail+sendmail
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I configured qmail as you told me. I left out the "mail.isp.at" because
I want to test it locally.
I tested it with
"echo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"
and got the following lines in /var/qmail/maillog:
Apr 27 17:56:07 smiley qmail: 925228567.901397 new msg 8517
Apr 27 17:56:07 smiley qmail: 925228567.902014 info msg 8517: bytes 213
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 445 uid 0
Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.114571 starting delivery 2: msg
8517 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.115143 status: local 0/10 remote
1/20
Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.141845 delivery 2: deferral:
Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name._(#4.1.2)/
Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.142410 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20
At the moment I dont have DNS, - I just have my /etc/hosts with the
following content:
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
172.16.7.1 smiley.mydomain.at smiley
172.16.1.2 hercules.mydomain.at hercules
So what name he couldn't find ? - All names which are involved in this
transaction are listed. - Help !
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>mail.isp.at <-- dial-up --> smiley.mydomain.at <-- LAN -->
>hercules.mydomain.at
>smiley runs qmail on linux
>hercules runs MS-Exchange on NT
>
>Can anyone tell me what control files I need to setup this scenario ?
smtproutes:
.mydomain.at:hercules.mydomain.at
mydomain.at:hercules.mydomain.at
:mail.isp.at
rcpthosts:
.mydomain.at
mydomain.at
Should do it.
-Dave
Laurenz Lanik
IntelliNet EDV Dienstleistungsges.m.b.H.
A-1060, Mariahilferstra�e 103
Tel.: 595 2388/21, Mobil: 0664/432 5571, Fax: 595 2390
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: www.IntelliNet.at/intellinet
At 11:59 am +0200 2/6/99,the wonderful Lanik, Laurenz (21) wrote:
>
>At the moment I dont have DNS, - I just have my /etc/hosts with the
>following content:
then it won't work. qmail requires dns, it doesn't use /etc/hosts
peter.
--
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"Lanik, Laurenz (21)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I configured qmail as you told me. I left out the "mail.isp.at" because
>I want to test it locally.
>I tested it with
> "echo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"
>and got the following lines in /var/qmail/maillog:
>
>Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.141845 delivery 2: deferral:
>Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name._(#4.1.2)/
>
>So what name he couldn't find ? - All names which are involved in this
>transaction are listed [in /etc/hosts]. - Help !
>
>smtproutes:
>
> .mydomain.at:hercules.mydomain.at
> mydomain.at:hercules.mydomain.at
> :mail.isp.at
The name it couldn't find is hercules.mydomain.at. qmail doesn't use
/etc/hosts. It uses DNS and hardcoded IP addresses only. You need to
change your smtproutes to specify the relays by IP address. Say
hercules is 10.10.10.10. Change the entry to:
mydomain.at:[10.10.10.10]
-Dave
qmail DOES NOT use /etc/hosts. EVER! You either have to run DNS or you
have to use /var/qmail/control/smtproutes to provide fake MX records.
'man qmail-remote' for the details. There are NO other choices.
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Lanik, Laurenz (21) wrote:
> I configured qmail as you told me. I left out the "mail.isp.at" because
> I want to test it locally.
> I tested it with
> "echo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"
> and got the following lines in /var/qmail/maillog:
>
>
> Apr 27 17:56:07 smiley qmail: 925228567.901397 new msg 8517
> Apr 27 17:56:07 smiley qmail: 925228567.902014 info msg 8517: bytes 213
> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 445 uid 0
> Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.114571 starting delivery 2: msg
> 8517 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.115143 status: local 0/10 remote
> 1/20
> Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.141845 delivery 2: deferral:
> Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name._(#4.1.2)/
> Apr 27 17:56:08 smiley qmail: 925228568.142410 status: local 0/10 remote
> 0/20
>
>
> At the moment I dont have DNS, - I just have my /etc/hosts with the
> following content:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
> 172.16.7.1 smiley.mydomain.at smiley
> 172.16.1.2 hercules.mydomain.at hercules
>
> So what name he couldn't find ? - All names which are involved in this
> transaction are listed. - Help !
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >mail.isp.at <-- dial-up --> smiley.mydomain.at <-- LAN -->
> >hercules.mydomain.at
> >smiley runs qmail on linux
> >hercules runs MS-Exchange on NT
> >
> >Can anyone tell me what control files I need to setup this scenario ?
>
> smtproutes:
>
> .mydomain.at:hercules.mydomain.at
> mydomain.at:hercules.mydomain.at
> :mail.isp.at
>
> rcpthosts:
>
> .mydomain.at
> mydomain.at
>
> Should do it.
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> Laurenz Lanik
> IntelliNet EDV Dienstleistungsges.m.b.H.
> A-1060, Mariahilferstra�e 103
> Tel.: 595 2388/21, Mobil: 0664/432 5571, Fax: 595 2390
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW: www.IntelliNet.at/intellinet
>
>
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
Hi,
my control/me file contains mail.mydomain.com wich is the FQDN
When i created a new include list say test, the file test contains:
john
bob
harry
When i do newinclude test , it creates test.bin.
The problem is that it contain : [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
[EMAIL PROTECTED],m etc.
But it has to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc.
When i put mydomain.com instead of mail.mydomain.com in control/me =
everything works fine,but the docs say in need the FQDN in it=20
What's wrong here??
fr�
"Fre de Vries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>my control/me file contains mail.mydomain.com wich is the FQDN
>
>When i created a new include list say test, the file test contains:
>john
>bob
>harry
>
>When i do newinclude test , it creates test.bin.
>The problem is that it contain : [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
>[EMAIL PROTECTED],m etc.
>
>But it has to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc.
>
>When i put mydomain.com instead of mail.mydomain.com in control/me =
>everything works fine,but the docs say in need the FQDN in it=20
>
>What's wrong here??
Nothing. If "mydomain.com" works, then it's an FQDN, and your job is
done. Since you've chosen to hide "mydomain.com" from us, I can't tell
if it really is a valid, resolvable domain name.
If you'd like to leave "me" as "mail.mydomain.com" but have newinclude
use "mydomain.com", try putting "mydomain.com" in
control/defaultdomain or setting the QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN environment
variable to "mydomain.com" before running newinclude.
-Dave
Hello, I guess I'm still a newbie, since I've hardly touched the qmail-server since
I installed it over a year ago, just added some users. 100% uptime last year on
an old P90 in a network with 65 users is something I like :) Still running qmail-
1.01 on RedHat 5.0.
Now, I've had some problems with sending mail to an important customer; the
good old "qmail: 927625038.911631 delivery 17458: deferral: Connected
_to_146.2.152.27_but_greeting_failed./" I get these messages more and more
often, and from different servers. I've read lots of the messages in the mailing-
list archive, but there seems to be no solution, and the problem goes back to
1997. The FAQ didn't brighten my day either. Do I have to upgrade to 1.03? I'm
not very good at updating Linux unless it's a .rpm file, and installing qmail was
pure hell for me, so I'm scared stiff at the thought of messing with it.
Any tips are welcome!
Kent R. Nilsen
I had a similar problem with qmail 1.03 but was solved by creating
/var/qmail/control/helohost with simply the line mydomain.com
I'm not sure it will work for you but its sounds like a good shot.
Wilson Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Yes I do remember reading that. What about the /home itself ? ie. I gather
>it needs to be 755 ? (or is it 711 ?) ie. in general I don't really like
>setting any world privileges for anything.
711 should work. Try it.
-Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> While I'm at it, is there any possible way to create a web-based email
> client that doesn't use pop for mail access? I'd like to set up a web mail
> reader that could do direct Maildir access w/o being some major security
> hole. Is it possible?
See http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/
--
Sam
Hi list
Here's a puzzling riddle: I implemented qmail 1.03 along with tcpserver
and daemontools, using the HOW-TO and the sample startup-script from
Adam D. McKennas page.
When I issue "qmail stop", all processes die. If I issue "qmail start"
everything is fine, for one exception: I get TWO tcpserver processes
forked by the supervised tcpserver process from the init script.
What can be the reason for this behavior?
The script looks like this:
!/bin/sh
#
# /etc/init.d/qmail : start or stop the qmail mail subsystem.
#
# Written by Christian Hudon
# fixed by Adam McKenna :p
PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/var/qmail/bin
USERID=33334 # CHANGE THIS TO YOUR QMAILD UID!!!
GROUPID=333 # CHANGE THIS TO YOUR NOFILES GID!!!
case "$1" in
start)
echo -n "Starting mail-transfer agent: qmail"
ulimit -v 2048
csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
-u$USER
ID -g$GROUPID 0 25 \
qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \
setuser qmaill cyclog -s5000000 -n5 /var/log/qmail &
echo "."
;;
stop)
echo -n "Stopping mail-transfer agent: qmail"
killall -TERM qmail-send
svc -dx /var/lock/qmail-smtpd
echo "."
;;
restart)
$0 stop
$0 start
;;
reload|force-reload)
echo "Reloading 'locals' and 'virtualdomains' control files."
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --signal HUP --exec
/usr/sbin/
qmail-send
;;
*)
echo 'Usage: /etc/init.d/qmail {start|stop|restart|reload}'
exit 1
esac
exit 0
I am at a loss here...Any hint would be highly appreciated.
Regards
Ralf
Do you really get 2 tcpserver processes, or is one the supervise process
and the second the tcpserver process? Do you have a tcpserver entry in
the rc script?
Could you include the ps output that leads you to believe you have 2
tcpserver processes?
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] "G�nthner, Ralf" wrote:
> Hi list
>
> Here's a puzzling riddle: I implemented qmail 1.03 along with tcpserver
> and daemontools, using the HOW-TO and the sample startup-script from
> Adam D. McKennas page.
>
> When I issue "qmail stop", all processes die. If I issue "qmail start"
> everything is fine, for one exception: I get TWO tcpserver processes
> forked by the supervised tcpserver process from the init script.
>
> What can be the reason for this behavior?
>
> The script looks like this:
>
> !/bin/sh
> #
> # /etc/init.d/qmail : start or stop the qmail mail subsystem.
> #
> # Written by Christian Hudon
> # fixed by Adam McKenna :p
>
> PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/var/qmail/bin
> USERID=33334 # CHANGE THIS TO YOUR QMAILD UID!!!
> GROUPID=333 # CHANGE THIS TO YOUR NOFILES GID!!!
>
> case "$1" in
> start)
> echo -n "Starting mail-transfer agent: qmail"
> ulimit -v 2048
>
> csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
>
> supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
> -u$USER
> ID -g$GROUPID 0 25 \
> qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \
> setuser qmaill cyclog -s5000000 -n5 /var/log/qmail &
>
> echo "."
> ;;
> stop)
> echo -n "Stopping mail-transfer agent: qmail"
> killall -TERM qmail-send
> svc -dx /var/lock/qmail-smtpd
> echo "."
> ;;
> restart)
> $0 stop
> $0 start
> ;;
> reload|force-reload)
> echo "Reloading 'locals' and 'virtualdomains' control files."
> start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --signal HUP --exec
> /usr/sbin/
> qmail-send
> ;;
> *)
> echo 'Usage: /etc/init.d/qmail {start|stop|restart|reload}'
> exit 1
> esac
>
> exit 0
>
>
> I am at a loss here...Any hint would be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Ralf
>
>
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
No tcpserver entry in the rc script! And here's the ps output:
ps auxww | grep qm
qmaild 701 0.0 1.2 832 280 p0 S 15:49 0:00 tcpserver -v
-x/etc/t
cp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
qmaild 796 0.0 1.2 832 296 p0 S 15:52 0:00 tcpserver -v
-x/etc/t
cp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
qmaill 699 0.0 0.8 808 184 p0 S 15:49 0:00 accustamp
qmaill 700 0.0 0.9 824 224 p0 S 15:49 0:00 cyclog
-s5000000 -n5
/var/log/qmail
qmaill 704 0.0 1.2 824 284 p0 S 15:49 0:00 splogger
qmail
qmailq 707 0.0 0.9 816 216 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-clean
qmailr 706 0.0 1.0 820 228 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-rspawn
qmails 697 0.2 1.1 860 260 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-send
root 698 0.0 0.8 812 200 p0 S 15:49 0:00 supervise
/var/lock/q
mail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25
qmail-smtpd
root 705 0.0 1.0 820 228 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-lspawn
./Mailbo
x
root 802 0.0 1.4 896 340 p0 S 15:52 0:00 grep qm
701 and 796 are the son processes and 698 is the supervised process.
After a restart I noticed that things were as they should be (there were
only 698 and 701) as long as no new messages came in, but as soon as
this happened process 796 came up....I monitored further and noticed
that these additional tcpserver processes come and go. Maybe this is
normal behavior and nobody noticed because when the system is idle,
there's just the two initial processes??
Cheers
Ralf
That is expected behavior. tcpserver spawns another instance of itself to
handle the communication for a specific connection request. (up to the
maximum specified by the -c option - default is 40).
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] "G�nthner, Ralf" wrote:
> No tcpserver entry in the rc script! And here's the ps output:
>
> ps auxww | grep qm
> qmaild 701 0.0 1.2 832 280 p0 S 15:49 0:00 tcpserver -v
> -x/etc/t
> cp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
> qmaild 796 0.0 1.2 832 296 p0 S 15:52 0:00 tcpserver -v
> -x/etc/t
> cp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
> qmaill 699 0.0 0.8 808 184 p0 S 15:49 0:00 accustamp
> qmaill 700 0.0 0.9 824 224 p0 S 15:49 0:00 cyclog
> -s5000000 -n5
> /var/log/qmail
> qmaill 704 0.0 1.2 824 284 p0 S 15:49 0:00 splogger
> qmail
> qmailq 707 0.0 0.9 816 216 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-clean
> qmailr 706 0.0 1.0 820 228 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-rspawn
> qmails 697 0.2 1.1 860 260 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-send
> root 698 0.0 0.8 812 200 p0 S 15:49 0:00 supervise
> /var/lock/q
> mail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25
> qmail-smtpd
> root 705 0.0 1.0 820 228 p0 S 15:49 0:00 qmail-lspawn
> ./Mailbo
> x
> root 802 0.0 1.4 896 340 p0 S 15:52 0:00 grep qm
>
> 701 and 796 are the son processes and 698 is the supervised process.
>
> After a restart I noticed that things were as they should be (there were
> only 698 and 701) as long as no new messages came in, but as soon as
> this happened process 796 came up....I monitored further and noticed
> that these additional tcpserver processes come and go. Maybe this is
> normal behavior and nobody noticed because when the system is idle,
> there's just the two initial processes??
>
> Cheers
> Ralf
>
>
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
Gee, thanks a lot! So all the fuss was about nothing??? *sigh* From now
on I'll just leave things running as they are... <g>
Cheers
Ralf
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Von: Timothy L. Mayo
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Why 2 tcpserver processes?
Datum: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 1999 16:35
That is expected behavior. tcpserver spawns another instance of itself
to
handle the communication for a specific connection request. (up to the
maximum specified by the -c option - default is 40).
"Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] "G�nthner, Ralf" wrote:
>
>> qmaild 701 0.0 1.2 832 280 p0 S 15:49 0:00 tcpserver -v
>> -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
>> qmaild 796 0.0 1.2 832 296 p0 S 15:52 0:00 tcpserver -v
>> -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
>
>That is expected behavior. tcpserver spawns another instance of itself to
>handle the communication for a specific connection request. (up to the
>maximum specified by the -c option - default is 40).
But tcpserver doesn't handle the communication, qmail-smtpd does. So
he should be seeing multiple qmail-smtpds, as needed.
On my systems, I always have exactly one "tcpserver qmail-smtpd"
process, and as many "qmail-smtpd" processes as there are active SMTP
connections.
-Dave
I stand by my original statement (or hang).
On a moderately busy (50 messages/minute for ~16 hours per day), there is
a tcpserver process spawned for every incoming connection attempt. I
usually have 35-40 of these present on the system in addition to the one
started by supervise. Each of these authenticates the IP address the
connection is coming from and then spawns qmail-smtpd. The tcpserver
process does NOT exit until the qmail-smtpd is finished.
This is on Dec UNIX.
Again, this is expected behavior. It may depend on the OS though.
Tim Mayo
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Dave Sill wrote:
> "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] "G�nthner, Ralf" wrote:
> >
> >> qmaild 701 0.0 1.2 832 280 p0 S 15:49 0:00 tcpserver -v
> >> -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
> >> qmaild 796 0.0 1.2 832 296 p0 S 15:52 0:00 tcpserver -v
> >> -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u33334 -g333 0 25 qmail-smtpd
> >
> >That is expected behavior. tcpserver spawns another instance of itself to
> >handle the communication for a specific connection request. (up to the
> >maximum specified by the -c option - default is 40).
>
> But tcpserver doesn't handle the communication, qmail-smtpd does. So
> he should be seeing multiple qmail-smtpds, as needed.
>
> On my systems, I always have exactly one "tcpserver qmail-smtpd"
> process, and as many "qmail-smtpd" processes as there are active SMTP
> connections.
>
> -Dave
>
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
"Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I stand by my original statement (or hang).
>
>On a moderately busy (50 messages/minute for ~16 hours per day), there is
>a tcpserver process spawned for every incoming connection attempt. I
>usually have 35-40 of these present on the system in addition to the one
>started by supervise. Each of these authenticates the IP address the
>connection is coming from and then spawns qmail-smtpd. The tcpserver
>process does NOT exit until the qmail-smtpd is finished.
>
>This is on Dec UNIX.
>
>Again, this is expected behavior. It may depend on the OS though.
OK, I'm talking now about my own Dec UNIX box, a list server. It
doesn't do as much incoming traffic as yours, so typically I have no
active qmail-smtpd processes:
root@sws1# ps -ef|grep smtpd
root 509 507 0.0 Apr 15 ?? 0:00.05 supervise
/var/supervise/tcpserver-qmail tcpserver -t5 -u 49491 -g 31314 0 smtp tcpcontrol
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd-wrapper
qmaild 517 509 0.0 Apr 15 ?? 6:47.20 tcpserver -t5 -u 49491 -g
31314 0 smtp tcpcontrol /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd-wrapper
If I connect to port 25, a qmail-smtpd shows up right away:
root 509 507 0.0 Apr 15 ?? 0:00.05 supervise
/var/supervise/tcpserver-qmail tcpserver -t5 -u 49491 -g 31314 0 smtp tcpcontrol
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd-wrapper
qmaild 517 509 0.0 Apr 15 ?? 6:47.22 tcpserver -t5 -u 49491 -g
31314 0 smtp tcpcontrol /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd-wrapper
qmaild 2288 517 0.4 12:05:46 ?? 0:00.11 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
Connect again, get another:
root 509 507 0.0 Apr 15 ?? 0:00.05 supervise
/var/supervise/tcpserver-qmail tcpserver -t5 -u 49491 -g 31314 0 smtp tcpcontrol
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd-wrapper
qmaild 517 509 0.0 Apr 15 ?? 6:47.23 tcpserver -t5 -u 49491 -g
31314 0 smtp tcpcontrol /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd-wrapper
qmaild 2288 517 0.0 12:05:46 ?? 0:00.11 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
qmaild 18284 517 0.4 12:06:53 ?? 0:00.08 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
It's possible, I suppose, that differences in our
supervise/tcpserver/qmail-smtpd configurations are causing your
qmail-smtpd's to show up in ps as tcpserver's. One thing I do that not
everyone does is to wrap qmail-smtpd in a shell script that does a
ulimit.
However, even if qmail-smtpd's display as tcpserver's, there should
only be two tcpserver's if there is an active incoming SMTP
connection. That can be determined by doing "netstat -a|grep smtp",
e.g.:
root@sws1# netstat -a|grep smtp
tcp 0 0 sws1.ctd.ornl.go.1651 xxx.40.210.221.smtp ESTABLISHED
tcp 0 0 sws1.ctd.ornl.go.smtp malachite.esd.or.2739 ESTABLISHED
The first line of output represents an outgoing SMTP connection (the
local port is 1651). The second line is an incoming connection (smtp
port).
So if you've got two tcpserver's for smtpd, but no incoming SMTP
connections, something's not right.
-Dave
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Timothy L. Mayo wrote:
> I stand by my original statement (or hang).
>
> On a moderately busy (50 messages/minute for ~16 hours per day), there is
> a tcpserver process spawned for every incoming connection attempt. I
> usually have 35-40 of these present on the system in addition to the one
> started by supervise. Each of these authenticates the IP address the
> connection is coming from and then spawns qmail-smtpd. The tcpserver
> process does NOT exit until the qmail-smtpd is finished.
>
> This is on Dec UNIX.
>
> Again, this is expected behavior. It may depend on the OS though.
I see the same thing on both FreeBSD 2.2.x and Linux ?.?.? (probably old)
Vince.
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On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Dave Sill wrote:
> "Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I stand by my original statement (or hang).
> >
> >On a moderately busy (50 messages/minute for ~16 hours per day), there is
> >a tcpserver process spawned for every incoming connection attempt. I
> >usually have 35-40 of these present on the system in addition to the one
> >started by supervise. Each of these authenticates the IP address the
> >connection is coming from and then spawns qmail-smtpd. The tcpserver
> >process does NOT exit until the qmail-smtpd is finished.
> >
> >This is on Dec UNIX.
> >
> >Again, this is expected behavior. It may depend on the OS though.
>
> OK, I'm talking now about my own Dec UNIX box, a list server. It
> doesn't do as much incoming traffic as yours, so typically I have no
> active qmail-smtpd processes:
>
[snip]
>
> It's possible, I suppose, that differences in our
> supervise/tcpserver/qmail-smtpd configurations are causing your
> qmail-smtpd's to show up in ps as tcpserver's. One thing I do that not
> everyone does is to wrap qmail-smtpd in a shell script that does a
> ulimit.
>
> However, even if qmail-smtpd's display as tcpserver's, there should
> only be two tcpserver's if there is an active incoming SMTP
> connection. That can be determined by doing "netstat -a|grep smtp",
> e.g.:
>
[snip]
>
> The first line of output represents an outgoing SMTP connection (the
> local port is 1651). The second line is an incoming connection (smtp
> port).
>
> So if you've got two tcpserver's for smtpd, but no incoming SMTP
> connections, something's not right.
>
> -Dave
Re-read what I said. :) I have 35-40 incoming SMTP sessions at a time for
~16 hours a day. I have my limit set to 100. The tcpserver and
qmail-smtpd processes come and go, except for the one started by
supervise.
Here is my start-up line:
/usr/local/bin/supervise /var/run/qmail-smtpd \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smtpd.cdb -c100 \
-v -uxxx -gxxx 0 smtp \
/usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -b -r dul.maps.vix.com \
/usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -b \
/usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -b -r dssl.imrss.org sh -c '
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
cd /var/qmail/autoturn
exec /usr/local/bin/setlock -nx $TCPREMOTEIP/seriallock \
/usr/local/bin/maildirsmtp $TCPREMOTEIP autoturn-$TCPREMOTEIP- \
$TCPREMOTEIP AutoTURN' 2>&1 | /usr/local/bin/accustamp | \
/usr/local/bin/setuser qmaill /usr/local/bin/cyclog /var/adm/smtpd
This server is THE mailserver for a medium sized ISP. I expect my load to
be different on my machine at home which also runs qmail and different
from your list server.
My home machine rarely has more than 2 tcpserver processes running at once
and even that is rare. The machine just does not get the SMTP traffic.
This server has easily handled ~150,000 messages in a 24 hour period in
addition to several thousand POP3 and IMAP sessions. I expect it to do
better after I get Cyrus out of the picture. :)
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
>On a moderately busy (50 messages/minute for ~16 hours per day), there is
>a tcpserver process spawned for every incoming connection attempt. I
>usually have 35-40 of these present on the system in addition to the one
>started by supervise. Each of these authenticates the IP address the
>connection is coming from and then spawns qmail-smtpd. The tcpserver
>process does NOT exit until the qmail-smtpd is finished.
I don't know what tcpserver you're running, but it's not the one
that's part of ucspi-0.84. It has a single master tcpserver process.
It forks each time it accepts a connection, then the child process
runs the rules and either exec's qmail-smtpd or exits. The child
should show up as tcpserver only for as long as it takes to do the
authentication, then it changes to qmail-smtpd. This should be easy
enough to verify -- look at the parent PIDs of the qmail-smtpd
processes and observe that they're all children of the master
tcpserver. Or read the source code. It's quite short.
If you have a lot of tcpserver child processes lying around, that
suggests you have a DNS problem and they're stalling and timing out on
some of the lookups.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl,
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail
On 2 Jun 1999, John R. Levine wrote:
> I don't know what tcpserver you're running, but it's not the one
> that's part of ucspi-0.84. It has a single master tcpserver process.
> It forks each time it accepts a connection, then the child process
> runs the rules and either exec's qmail-smtpd or exits. The child
> should show up as tcpserver only for as long as it takes to do the
> authentication, then it changes to qmail-smtpd. This should be easy
> enough to verify -- look at the parent PIDs of the qmail-smtpd
> processes and observe that they're all children of the master
> tcpserver. Or read the source code. It's quite short.
>
> If you have a lot of tcpserver child processes lying around, that
> suggests you have a DNS problem and they're stalling and timing out on
> some of the lookups.
>
> --
> John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl,
> Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail
>
This is an unpatch version of tcpserver from the latest ucspi-0.84 and you
are correct. The tcpserver instances do go change to (in my case) sh
instances when the reverse lookups have completed. My goof and sorry for
the confusion!
Dave and John, do you both run tcpserver with the -H option set? If so,
what shows up in your Received: headers and your mail log regarding mail
receipt from outside hosts? Or are you lucky and receive most of your
mail from machines with valid reverse DNS entries? My DNS setup is NOT at
fault. :)
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
"Timothy L. Mayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Dave and John, do you both run tcpserver with the -H option set?
I don't.
-Dave
>This is an unpatch version of tcpserver from the latest ucspi-0.84 and you
>are correct. The tcpserver instances do go change to (in my case) sh
>instances when the reverse lookups have completed. My goof and sorry for
>the confusion!
Aha. I bet if you adjust the shell script so the last thing is "exec
qmail-smtpd" rather than just "qmail-smtpd", you'll find that a lot of
extra processes go away.
>Dave and John, do you both run tcpserver with the -H option set?
Nope. I do all of the lookups. In fact, I use the patches that let
me filter on the looked up domain names as well as IP addresses so I
can route some mail for, uh, special scrutiny.
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John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl,
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail
I run a small mailserver (20+ users) internally that routes all our mail
plus internet mail. I am thinking of setting up some type of mailing list
so users can send to the whole company on just one address so they each
don't have to keep a list on each machine. Can this be done with aliases?
Or am I better off setting up a mailing list like majordomo, any input will
be appreciated.
Tim Hunter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CIMx Company
400 TechneCenter Drive
Cincinnati, OH 45150
p 513-248-7714
f 513-248-7711
http://www.cimx.com
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>I run a small mailserver (20+ users) internally that routes all our mail
>plus internet mail. I am thinking of setting up some type of mailing list
>so users can send to the whole company on just one address so they each
>don't have to keep a list on each machine. Can this be done with aliases?
>Or am I better off setting up a mailing list like majordomo, any input will
>be appreciated.
A list manager is handy when you have lots of lists or lots of changes
to the lists. If you have one or two small, mostly static lists,
simple aliases are probably the way to go. You might want to put a
command at the top of the .qmail file to authenticate the sender if
you're worried about abuse from outsiders.
-Dave
Arrgh!! So my problem isn't solved?
On 2nd thought: Dave, it's all a misunderstanding.
The tcpserver processes I showed in my ps output really are smtpd processes, because
that's the last argument to tcpserver, if you look closely. Doh...
Regards
Ralf
Hello qmailars,
Sorry to bother, but would appreciate the help.
Do the Subject: From: and To: lines within message headers always read
Subject: From: and To: without being translated into another language?
I see that the headers are occasionally translated into other languages,
but I'm fairly sure it is the e-mail client which does it.
Thx - eric
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Eric Dahnke writes:
> Do the Subject: From: and To: lines within message headers always read
> Subject: From: and To: without being translated into another language?
Yes. Always.
> I see that the headers are occasionally translated into other languages,
> but I'm fairly sure it is the e-mail client which does it.
Yes, and that is the right place to do it.
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Eric Dahnke writes:
> Do the Subject: From: and To: lines within message headers always read
> Subject: From: and To: without being translated into another language?
Yes. RFC 822 doesn't really make provisions for headers to be translated
into other languages at the MTA level.
> I see that the headers are occasionally translated into other languages,
> but I'm fairly sure it is the e-mail client which does it.
That's the right place to do it. The client is normally responsible for
that work, which would fall under "cosmetics" or "pretty-printing".
jms
Where can I find a copy of the above? I looked through the tarball but
couldn't find anything.
Dax Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Where can I find a copy of the above? I looked through the tarball but
>couldn't find anything.
See:
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#License
-Dave
Hi there,
I posted the questions some days ago and got no answer... we really need
to find a sollution for it...
Anybody has any ideas on how to modify qmail-getpw and make it check
users on a different way other than /etc/passwd ? (PostgreSQL)
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Ignacio de Cordoba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Anybody has any ideas on how to modify qmail-getpw and make it check
> users on a different way other than /etc/passwd ? (PostgreSQL)
It is easy to write a checkpassword replacement that does
whatever authentification you can imagine. We also have
our customer data in a PostgreSQL database, but we deliberately
chose not to checkpassword() directly against the SQL database
because if you do that then the database server becomes a
potential single point of failure (PostgreSQL machine goes
down -> Users can't get mail via POP3 -> Hotline jumps
straight into panic! mode -> you lose)
Because of that we generate a per-customer-domain CDB
database from the data that is stored in the SQL database
once per hour. With that scheme even if the PostgreSQL server
goes down existing users still can get at their mail (you
just can't update/add users for as long as the SQL server
is down, but that's more acceptable).
Attached below is our checkpassword replacement that works
like explained above. It expects to find a passwd.cdb for
each customer domain in /MailSpool/$customer_domain/
and clients need to use username%domain as their POP3
login id.
#!/usr/bin/perl -wT
#
# $Id$
#
use strict;
sub read_parms {
my $buf = 512 x 0;
local *INP;
open(INP, "<&=3") || die "can't open fd 3: $!\n";
sysread(INP,$buf,512) || die "sysread failed: $!\n";
close(INP);
$buf =~ /([^\0]+)\0([^\0]+)\0([^\0]+)\0/;
}
sub checkpass {
my($u,$p,$s) = @_;
if (defined($u) && defined($p) && defined($s)) {
if ($u =~ /(\S+)[@%](\S+)/) {
my($usr,$dom) = ($1,$2);
chdir "/MailSpool/$dom" || exit 111;
if (-d $usr && -d "$usr/Maildir" && -f 'passwd.cdb') {
use CDB_File;
my %db;
tie %db, 'CDB_File', 'passwd.cdb' || exit 111;
my $dbpass = $db{$usr};
untie(%db);
# prepare environment in case we succeed below
$ENV{'PATH'} = '/admin/qmail/bin:/bin:/usr/bin';
$ENV{'HOME'} = "/MailSpool/$dom/$usr";
$ENV{'USER'} = $usr;
$ENV{'SHELL'} = '/bin/true';
my $ok;
$ok = defined($dbpass) && $dbpass eq $p && chdir($usr);
use IO::File;
my $logf = new IO::File ">&5";
if (defined($logf)) {
$logf->print(!$ok ? "FAILED: " : "", "User='$u' Pass='$p'
Stamp='$s'\n");
$logf->close;
}
return $ok;
}
}
}
return 0;
}
exec @ARGV if checkpass(read_parms());
exit 111;
I'm looking for something (patch?) against Mailbombs (for example:
more than 100 mails for the same recipient during a definied time).
Does such a thing already exist ? Thanks for any pointer... :)
Cheers,
Olivier
Tim Hunter wrote:
> all you need is to use thisd for your startup
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> # Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
> # Using procmail to deliver messages to /var/spool/mail/$USER by default.
>
> exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> qmail-start '|preline procmail' splogger qmail
Didn't work. I am using an rpm instalation on RedHat 5.2
Hello all,
I am writing in the hope someone can give me a clue as to what
might have happened. I have a machine in our office which has a
real ip address ending in .214 (it used to end in .249)...Now, ever since
it was changed, outlook express (the MTA the guy uses) has been barfing
sending and receiving mail outside of our domain. Does anyone know why
this would happen, since I am not aware of anything in qmail which would
trigger this problem just by changing an IP address...
-Bill
Maybe his new IP is not a valid relay client ?
If he is using Outlook or Exchange you should try instead using the MS
Internet Mail client (from IE) or Messenger from Netscape (not sure about
Eudora) from his PC both of these will tell you what error is returned from
the server. (ie. sorry, ...rcpthosts.. #5.7.1 or some other message)
If he's using Outlook it doesn't really say what error is returned from the
server. ie. when my rcpthosts was failing all I got in Outlook was a
message returned saying:
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
(...)
No transport provider was available for delivery to this
recipient.
On Wednesday, June 02, 1999 11:21 PM, Bill Parker
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am writing in the hope someone can give me a clue as to what
> might have happened. I have a machine in our office which has a
> real ip address ending in .214 (it used to end in .249)...Now, ever since
> it was changed, outlook express (the MTA the guy uses) has been barfing
> sending and receiving mail outside of our domain. Does anyone know why
> this would happen, since I am not aware of anything in qmail which would
> trigger this problem just by changing an IP address...
>
> -Bill
I'm getting just a teensy bit fed up with Microsoft and their approach to
Internet Standards...
Outlook Express version 5 has fixed most of my issues with IMAP bar this
one: Outlook creates a 'special' folder called Inbox. This folder doesn't
exist on the IMAP server, so every synch with the server results in at least
one error, which is obviously unacceptable for the users. I can't create an
Inbox folder on the server either (or rather, I can, but Outlook doesn't
appear to see it). I can't remove the Inbox folder, because Microsoft
apparently know better.
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for me?
Thanks,
Jim
On Thursday, June 03, 1999 5:24 AM, Jim Gilliver [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I'm getting just a teensy bit fed up with Microsoft and their approach to
> Internet Standards...
>
[...]
> Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for me?
>
Yes .... use something other than Microsoft
Has anyone been able to reach Mate's site of RPMs recently? FTP connects
but times out.
Alternatively, does anyone have a copy of his installation instructions?
Thanks,
Vince.
Hi,
I am using qmail 1.03 and sendmail 8.9.1 at the same server. Qmail used for receive
inbound letters and using sendmail -bs send our mailing list.
I had to say sometime sendmail is better than qmail,for example,
while talk to qmail,
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(host 'hostN.com' is not a local host)
then qmail will crack this letter to 3 letters,first [EMAIL PROTECTED],then
[EMAIL PROTECTED],and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] to send it . But sendmail not, it will crack
this letter to only two letters: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is the reason I am using sendmail but not qmail to send outbound letters.
But the problem is, if I let sendmail to be a deamon(-bd),sendmail will try to
listen port 25(and now qmail listen ? ),and if I not, sendmail cannot check the mail
queue to delivert queued letters.(manual sendmail -q &? :( )
Then how can I do?
Thanks.
Hotdog
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