qmail Digest 17 Jun 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 674
Topics (messages 26736 through 26802):
virtual domain serious help
26736 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26739 by: Chris Porreca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26757 by: System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26758 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Another question about reply messages...
26737 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[PATCH] MAIL FROM:... 2nd. ed (3rd.)
26738 by: Balazs Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newbye troubles (qmail-pw2u)
26740 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
filtering
26741 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List Unsubscribe
26742 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26749 by: Alastair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26752 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26753 by: Justin Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26754 by: Justin Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bug in rewriting of sender address?
26743 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Suggestion: qmail-unqueue
26744 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26755 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26760 by: "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26763 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26764 by: "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
aliases vs. users
26745 by: Frank Greven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26747 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reinstall
26746 by: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26750 by: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
test, please ignore
26748 by: Varga Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
shadow passwords
26751 by: Varga Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26770 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26773 by: Varga Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26784 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
qmail + Maildir + procmail
26756 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
26766 by: "Mark E. Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26778 by: "Mark E. Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Virtual Mail Setup
26759 by: Paul Gregg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26765 by: Richard Roderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26769 by: Paul Gregg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Problem with antispam filter patch
26761 by: "Stephane Cherpillod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blocking ExploreZip
26762 by: "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26767 by: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26774 by: "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26775 by: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vacation Package + /var/qmail/users/assign ..
26768 by: Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26792 by: "Peter Samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Multiple qMail Instances
26771 by: Cody Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Virtual Mail
26772 by: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QMAIL-CYRUS-HOWTO
26776 by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26795 by: Jon Scarbrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cron complaing about qmail
26777 by: "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Completely off topic: supervise cron?
26779 by: "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
problems with vchkpw?
26780 by: "Stephen C. Comoletti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Qmail, IMAP, and Maildir
26781 by: "Matt Schnierle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/bin/mail
26782 by: Albert Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26783 by: "Jay D. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26785 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
26788 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Maildir mailer
26786 by: Stephane Morand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26787 by: Stefan Paletta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ETRN... am I going insane? ;)
26789 by: Mahlon Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26801 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
qmail on Solaris 2.7
26790 by: Bhushan Kerur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26802 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
./config
26791 by: James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26793 by: Kai MacTane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26794 by: Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cyrus question re access/sharing
26796 by: "Heinz Wittenbecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TEST.receive failure
26797 by: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ETRN
26798 by: "HTP Communication Pvt. Ltd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
move the queue
26799 by: Van Liedekerke Franky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
blocking trash from "Internet Mail Service (5.5.xxxx.x)
26800 by: torben fjerdingstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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+ System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| i cant seem to get virtual domains to work.
Did you perhaps forget to either restart qmail or send qmail-send a
HUP after editing the virtualdomains file?
- Harald
Two other things:
1) Did you create a .qmail-default file in the apropriate user account?
2) Did you add the domain to rcpthosts file?
- Chris
Christopher Porreca
Systems Administration
N e t A c c e s s, I n c.
Phone: (716) 756-5596
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote:
+ System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| i cant seem to get virtual domains to work.
Did you perhaps forget to either restart qmail or send qmail-send a
HUP after editing the virtualdomains file?
- Harald
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote:
> + System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> | i cant seem to get virtual domains to work.
>
> Did you perhaps forget to either restart qmail or send qmail-send a
> HUP after editing the virtualdomains file?
>
> - Harald
>
i've done several qmail HUPS.
however, i discovered HUPS dont do squat. i -TERM'ed the root qmail proc,
and restarted it with the /var/qmail/rc script from scratch.
taht did the trick.
+ System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| i've done several qmail HUPS.
|
| however, i discovered HUPS dont do squat. i -TERM'ed the root qmail
| proc, and restarted it with the /var/qmail/rc script from scratch.
|
| taht did the trick.
Then either you have a qmail older than version 1.01, or your qmail was
running with the HUP signal blocked. Or something is really screwy
about your machine.
HUPing qmail-send surely does more than squat for me.
- Harald
+ Ana Belén Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| I have several e-mail alias, and I want to send diferents
| autoreply-message depending the alias. But all mails come to the
| same acount anasan, who is the real user. Can I do that??
The easiest way is to have each alias forward to anasan-something and
then create different ~anasan/.qmail-something files.
- Harald
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Nicole H. wrote:
> On 12-May-99 Balazs Nagy wrote:
> > Hiyas,
> >
> > My second edition of MAIL FROM: checking is accessible3 from now from
> > http://lsc.kva.hu/dl/qmail-1.03-mfcheck.2.patch
> >
> > BTW I think this can be very useful in the main qmail src too.
>
> I was so happy to see your patch adding domain checking to qmail. However when
> I try to compile qmail after patching I get the errors shown below.
> I am compiling on a box running FreeBSD 3.2-stable. Any help much apprecciated.
>
> qmail-smtpd.c: In function `smtp_mail':
> qmail-smtpd.c:271: `DNS_HARD' undeclared (first use this function)
Oh, excuse me but I forgot to put 'include "dns.h"' in the front of
qmail-smtpd.c. By the way http://lsc.kva.hu/dl/qmail-1.03-mfcheck.3.patch
fixes the problem.
--
Regards: Kevin (Balazs)
Hi there.
I am a new qmail user running a redhat 5.1 with no shadow password.
As this is my fisrt try at managing mail, i still have troubles understanding how
things are kept.
It looks like i am able to recieve and to send mail with one account (the one i m
using) but i dont understand how to add user.
The doc says, use qmail-pw2u, this shall read /etc/passwd and create a valid
/var/qmail/users/assign file.
If i run qmail-pw2u, nothings happens. No error message, i loose hand on the shell and
it doesnt give it back. I have waited more than 5 minutes (for a /etc/passwd with no
more than 10 user).
Yes, poeple in /home do own their directory:
drwxr-xr-x 2 geneaweb geneaweb 1024 mai 17 15:03 geneaweb
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 jan 3 19:12 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 26 melmoth melmoth 3072 jun 16 13:07 melmoth
drwxr-xr-x 3 postgres postgres 1024 mai 26 11:34 postgres
drwxr-xr-x 2 root nobody 1024 aoû 1 1998 samba
drwxr-xr-x 5 www www 1024 jun 3 23:38 www
drwxr-xr-x 2 zonegris zonegris 1024 mai 26 13:06 zonegris
So, i have try to make the assign file by hands, trying to add zonegris.
Here is what i have tryed in assign,
=zonegris:zonegris:503:502:/home/zonegris::
.
But if i try qmail-newu it generate a bad format in assign.
I guess i havent understood what are the 2 fields after the home directory.
Any help appreciated.
Have a nice day.
Pierre Amadio
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:34:35AM -0400, System Administrator wrote:
Both should work fine. I haven't used procmail, but I use maildrop, and I
love it. I'm told it's easier to use and configure than procmail.
> hi all,
>
> question, which program/system works best for filtering email into
> seperate folders using pine with qmail? i'm investigating procmail and
> 'maildrop'....any feedback would be appreciated.
--
Anand
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:00:57AM -0500, Kory Lasker wrote:
Look for the return-path header in a recent message from the list. You will
find your address in it like this:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I can't seem to find my original subscription email. Can anyone tell
> me how I can go about unsubscribing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kory
--
Anand
Hi,
I have tried, as advised, emailing help@... i added 'list.cr.yp.to' as the
domain. I
received a message saying that [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist. How do I
unsubscribe, please? Return paths don't offer much assistance.
Alastair.
Anand Buddhdev wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:00:57AM -0500, Kory Lasker wrote:
>
> Look for the return-path header in a recent message from the list. You will
> find your address in it like this:
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I can't seem to find my original subscription email. Can anyone tell
> > me how I can go about unsubscribing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kory
>
> --
> Anand
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:11:24PM +0100, Alastair wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried, as advised, emailing help@... i added 'list.cr.yp.to' as the
> domain. I
> received a message saying that [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist. How do I
> unsubscribe, please? Return paths don't offer much assistance.
That's where you went wrong. You have to send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for a help message. Also, return paths will give
you *all* the information you need to unsubscribe. Look again.
--
Anand
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:00:57AM -0500, Kory Lasker wrote:
# I can't seem to find my original subscription email. Can anyone tell me how I can
go about unsubscribing?
#
# Thanks,
#
did you try looking at the headers
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:57 -0500
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: List Unsubscribe
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On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:11:24PM +0100, Alastair wrote:
# Hi,
#
# I have tried, as advised, emailing help@... i added 'list.cr.yp.to' as the
# domain. I
try qmail-help@
# received a message saying that [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist. How do I
# unsubscribe, please? Return paths don't offer much assistance.
#
# Alastair.
#
# Anand Buddhdev wrote:
#
# > On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:00:57AM -0500, Kory Lasker wrote:
# >
# > Look for the return-path header in a recent message from the list. You will
# > find your address in it like this:
# >
# > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# >
# > > I can't seem to find my original subscription email. Can anyone tell
# > > me how I can go about unsubscribing?
# > >
# > > Thanks,
# > >
# > > Kory
# >
# > --
# > Anand
#
#
#
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David Harris wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> [test12@hobbes home]$ cat .qmail-bouncer
> bouncesaying "bounced as a test"
^^
This is missing a pipe sign here. But even if it's there,
the result is the same.
> The "^From" line should read "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", right?
Yes. (That's what makes sense (to me), but the documentation is
confusing me right now.)
> IMO, the iron clad test of this sender rewriting is this: Did we get bounce
> messages? The answer is no:
Postmaster's got the double-bounce since [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does not exist.
> This make sense to anyone else there?
Yup. I *think* this got wrong when Delivered-To lines were changed
to reflect the virtualdomain the message was sent to and not `me' as
the host.
qmail-local uses local"-owner@"host as NEWSENDER, but it should
use either ext"-owner@"host or local"-owner@"`me'.
Dan? Anyone?
Stefan
Peter van der Landen writes:
> Trying to keep in with the Qmail way of doing things, It might have the
> following syntax:
>
> qmail-unqueue queue-id program [ arg ... ]
>
> The queue-id could be extracted from the qmail-qread output. The program
> would receive the message on stdin & the envelope information in the usual
> environment variables. The qmail-unqueue program would remove the message
> from the queue if the program exits 0.
The problem is that you can potentially have megabytes worth of
envelope information. So do you pipe that to the program on a
non-standard fd? But then you can't use standard tools. Or do you
extract the recipients one at a time, and run the program once for
each recipient? Or do you have a different qmail-unqueue which runs
the recipients through a program, one per line?
I agree, though, that such a program is needed. Hopefully it's on
Dan's TODO list for qmail 2.0.
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Jos Backus wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> Who knows, maybe 2.0 will have a generalized delivery type:
> local/remote/bounce/discard/..., and the possibility to change it on the fly
> for a given message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Dec 1998 03:09:02 -0000
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "D. J. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do I requeue a remote message as a local message?
Mark Delany writes:
> The bad news? You can't. That decision as made at the time the mail is first
> noticed by qmail-send.
qmail 2 will delay the local-remote decision until delivery time. The
distinctions between local retry schedules and remote retry schedules,
and between local concurrency and remote concurrency, will disappear.
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell P. Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestion: qmail-unqueue
>On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 01:11:45PM -0000, Russell Nelson wrote:
>> Russell P. Sutherland writes:
>> > On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 11:59:45AM -0000, Russell Nelson wrote:
>> >
>> > > I agree, though, that such a program is needed. Hopefully it's on
>> > > Dan's TODO list for qmail 2.0.
>> >
>> > I'm hoping to meet him for coffee today at 10:00. Perhaps
>> > I'll ask him if he is approachable.
>>
>> Cool.
>
>He is cool. :^) At least alot "user friendly" than people
>perceive him to be from his posts to the list.
Good to hear it;)
>We chatted about several items, and I brought up Peter's request
>for a qmail-unqueue (I explained that this would be
>a command that would be run manually). In summary:
>
> - No plans for anyting for qmail 1.0x. He wondered
> that if this measure was needed, might there
> be several other items w.r.t. the system that would
> need checking/fixing.
It's not that it was so badly needed. I had a problem with a remote site
that messed up its primary MX configuration so mail to that site stayed in
the queue. I briefly considered doing a script that would send it to the
(functional) secondary MX instead. I also recently picked up a script
(qmHandle) from the qmail homepage that could erase messages from the queue.
It had to stop and restart qmail to achieve that.
It seemed that qmail-unqueue would provide a natural extension to the
current programs solving such matters in a more elegant way.
> - the new spiffy qmail 2.0 queue structure will
> lend itself to doing this type of thing more easily
> than with the current release.
I can't wait (and not just because of this feature)!
Thanks for asking...
Regards,
Peter van der Landen
+ "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| I had a problem with a remote site that messed up its primary MX
| configuration so mail to that site stayed in the queue. I briefly
| considered doing a script that would send it to the (functional)
| secondary MX instead.
Why not simply make a control/smtproutes entry?
- Harald
-----Original Message-----
From: Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestion: qmail-unqueue
>+ "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>| I had a problem with a remote site that messed up its primary MX
>| configuration so mail to that site stayed in the queue. I briefly
>| considered doing a script that would send it to the (functional)
>| secondary MX instead.
>
>Why not simply make a control/smtproutes entry?
Yes, that's how I solved it at the time.
Regards,
Peter
What exactly is the dirfference between qmail-users and the alias files or in
other words in which case should I use users in which alias?
Frank
+ Frank Greven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| What exactly is the dirfference between qmail-users and the alias
| files or in other words in which case should I use users in which
| alias?
A file ~alias/.qmail-* file will never override an existing user. You
will have to use the qmail-users mechanism for that.
If you have NIS or NIS+ on your machine, you should be aware that
qmail-getpw cannot distinguish between a temporary NIS(+) error and a
non-existent user. So having all users in users/cdb is safer.
users/assign is more flexible than the alias mechanism. For example,
there is no way the alias mechanism can manage the equivalent of a
line in users/assign starting "+foobar/:" (unless of course your break
character is /).
Other than that, ~alias/.qmail-* is a simpler way of life and
sufficient for most needs.
Personally, I maintain a number of aliases by having lines like
=foo:alias:123:456:/var/qmail/alias:+:foo:
in the users/assign file. Mail to foo is then controlled by
~alias/.qmail+foo. The + sign in the file name serves as a useful
reminder that these delivery instructions can only be accessed via
users/cdb.
- Harald
Thanks for all the help yesterday.
I've been making penance and have reinstalled QMAIL. At first I couldn't
understand why the userid's were only numbers and I realized that to
reinstall I had to run 'make setup check' from scratch after making the
proper users.
So I did a really clean install (or so I thought)
I deleted the /var/qmail directory
I deleted the alias and qmail* users
I deleted the group nofiles and qmail
I deleted my installation directory
(I left the Maildir and .qmail (with ./Maildir/) in my etc/skel)
(I left the qmail startup line in rc.local - I hope that wasn't a sin)
(I left my Maildir directory in my own user account Alex, which has some
test mail in the new directory)
I did a shutdown
When I came back up
I created the /var/qmail directory
I created the groups nofiles and qmail, and the users alias and qmail*
I ran the make setup check
I ran ./config
As the alias user I copied the .qmail in ~alias to .qmail-postmaster,
.qmail-root, and .qmail-mailer-daemon (they have the ./Maildir)
I deleted the .qmail from the ~alias directory (it came from /etc/skel)
I deleted the spurious .qmail from /var/qmail and /var/qmail/alias (it came
from /etc/skel)
I copied the /var/qmail/boot/home to /var/qmail/rc
I changed the /var/qmail/rc to use Maildir instead of Mailbox
I thought I was good to go at this point.
Then I started qmail
csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
I got a response
[1] number (I don't remember the number)
I did ps -aux | more
none of the qmail processes had started :-(
I tried a shutdown to let it start from rc.local
still no qmail processes
I tried starting again
csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
again I got a response
[1] number
but still nothing when I look use ps -aux | more
Nothing happens when I attempt to send local-to-local using the echo test.
I'd like to look at syslog to see what's there but I have NO IDEA where it
is on my system. I'm using Linux Mandrake (Redhat + KDE).
If I keep attempting to restart qmail I alsways get [1] number.
My latest attempt showed [1] 10434
Alex (I want virtual mail so bad I can taste it) Miller
OK, I found the syslog. It was /var/log/maillog
It does contain some pertinent info.
It records my attempts to start, for example
Jun 16 07:12:54 r84aap011904 qmail: 929531574.959200 alert: cannot start:
unable to read controls
Hmm....
I can't understand why
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 8:28 AM
> To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To
> Subject: Reinstall
>
>
> Thanks for all the help yesterday.
>
> I've been making penance and have reinstalled QMAIL. At first I couldn't
> understand why the userid's were only numbers and I realized that to
> reinstall I had to run 'make setup check' from scratch after making the
> proper users.
>
> So I did a really clean install (or so I thought)
>
> I deleted the /var/qmail directory
> I deleted the alias and qmail* users
> I deleted the group nofiles and qmail
> I deleted my installation directory
> (I left the Maildir and .qmail (with ./Maildir/) in my etc/skel)
> (I left the qmail startup line in rc.local - I hope that wasn't a sin)
> (I left my Maildir directory in my own user account Alex, which has some
> test mail in the new directory)
> I did a shutdown
>
> When I came back up
>
> I created the /var/qmail directory
> I created the groups nofiles and qmail, and the users alias and qmail*
> I ran the make setup check
> I ran ./config
> As the alias user I copied the .qmail in ~alias to .qmail-postmaster,
> .qmail-root, and .qmail-mailer-daemon (they have the ./Maildir)
> I deleted the .qmail from the ~alias directory (it came from /etc/skel)
> I deleted the spurious .qmail from /var/qmail and
> /var/qmail/alias (it came
> from /etc/skel)
> I copied the /var/qmail/boot/home to /var/qmail/rc
> I changed the /var/qmail/rc to use Maildir instead of Mailbox
>
> I thought I was good to go at this point.
>
> Then I started qmail
> csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
>
> I got a response
> [1] number (I don't remember the number)
>
> I did ps -aux | more
>
> none of the qmail processes had started :-(
> I tried a shutdown to let it start from rc.local
> still no qmail processes
>
> I tried starting again
> csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
>
> again I got a response
> [1] number
>
> but still nothing when I look use ps -aux | more
>
> Nothing happens when I attempt to send local-to-local using the echo test.
>
> I'd like to look at syslog to see what's there but I have NO IDEA where it
> is on my system. I'm using Linux Mandrake (Redhat + KDE).
>
> If I keep attempting to restart qmail I alsways get [1] number.
> My latest attempt showed [1] 10434
>
> Alex (I want virtual mail so bad I can taste it) Miller
>
test only
I haven't find it in the FAQ in the installation package, so I ask it here
whether qmail-pop3 supports shadow passwords, as it is installed, or do I
have to install something else as well, instead of checkpassword?
My other question is the same for APOP...
The third is, as you can guess... is it possible to do APOP with shadow
passwords? Is Qmail or some extensions able to do it together?
Robert Varga
Varga Robert writes:
> The third is, as you can guess... is it possible to do APOP with shadow
> passwords? Is Qmail or some extensions able to do it together?
No. This procedure is not possible. According to the current physical and
logical laws of this universe, APOP requires that passwords be stored as
completely unencrypted, because APOP requires that the cleartext password
be available for computing and validating the MD5 hash.
You have the source code to both checkpassword pop3d available, so you
shouldn't have any problems writing your own custom password validation
scheme. The MD5 hash function is defined in RFC1321, and RFC1725 specifies
how APOP validation works.
--
Sam
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Sam wrote:
> Varga Robert writes:
>
> > The third is, as you can guess... is it possible to do APOP with shadow
> > passwords? Is Qmail or some extensions able to do it together?
>
> No. This procedure is not possible. According to the current physical and
> logical laws of this universe, APOP requires that passwords be stored as
> completely unencrypted, because APOP requires that the cleartext password
> be available for computing and validating the MD5 hash.
>
This probably means that the APOP database cannot be automatically
refreshed when the user changes his/her password by passwd.
Robert Varga
Varga Robert writes:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Sam wrote:
>
> > Varga Robert writes:
> >
> > > The third is, as you can guess... is it possible to do APOP with shadow
> > > passwords? Is Qmail or some extensions able to do it together?
> >
> > No. This procedure is not possible. According to the current physical and
> > logical laws of this universe, APOP requires that passwords be stored as
> > completely unencrypted, because APOP requires that the cleartext password
> > be available for computing and validating the MD5 hash.
> >
>
> This probably means that the APOP database cannot be automatically
> refreshed when the user changes his/her password by passwd.
No, it doesn't mean that at all. It only means that it's not possible with
the standard passwd utility only. Nothing stops you from patching passwd
to save a copy of the unencrypted password in a protected file or a
directory, which then is read by the APOP checkpassword.
In fact, if you are fortunate enough to be using a PAM-enabled system, you
won't have to touch passwd's code at all. Just hack together a standalone
PAM module to swipe the password and tuck it away, someplace. Lessee...
$ cat /etc/pam.d/passwd
auth required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
account required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
password required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3
password required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so use_authtok nullok
Just append another password directive at the very end, pointing to your
module hack, and you're all set.
--
Sam
"Mark E. Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I just finished DLing and installing procmail with the necessary
> patches and tested it out. Part way there ... The incoming message
> _was_ picked out by procmail but a) it was dumped into a file called
> ~/Maildir/trash instead of a directory ~/Maildir/trash/...
It's not clear what you want, here. Maildir delivery doesn't involve
any directory called "trash", unless you created a directory
confusingly "Maildir" which isn't one, but which contains a maildir
called "trash", having subdirectories "cur", "new", and "tmp".
What recipe did you try in your procmailrc? What is ~/Maildir/trash?
What did you desire to accomplish?
> and b) it was _also_ delivered to ~/Maildir/new/.
As you deduced, that was probably because of the "./Maildir/" line in
your .qmail file.
By the way, you can also get the job done using normal procmail, and
my "safecat" utility. The recipe in your procmailrc should look like:
:0w
<criteria here>
| safecat $HOME/Maildir/trash/tmp $HOME/Maildir/trash/new
That assumes, of course, that ~/Maildir/trash is a maildir into which
you want your messages delivered. Otherwise, delete the text "/trash"
globally from the above example.
You can find safecat at
<http://www.pobox.com/~lbudney/linux/software/safeact.html>.
Len.
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> It's not clear what you want, here. Maildir delivery doesn't involve
I'll explain my goal in detail. We run a NIS+ environment here but my
machine (Linux box) is standalone. I make it as autonomous as possible
like running a secondary DNS server etc. No I want to move my mail off
of our hub and onto my machine.
I am running qmail 1.03 and want to use Maildir. The idea is this: My
mail gets forwarded from the hub to my local machine. procmail filters
my mail into various mail boxes (two words so I don't lead anyone to
believe I am referring to a particular format) like inbox (mail that
doesn't fit any other category), linux, mutt, qmail, security etc
(various mailing lists). When I start up mutt I want it to go straight
to the "inbox". I also want to use Maildir which means (to me) that
_each_ of the above mentioned mail boxes will be a Maildir with a cur
new and tmp subdir, like so:
~/Mail
/inbox
/cur
/new
/tmp
/linux
/cur
/new
/tmp
/security
/cur
/new
/tmp
Finally, if possible, I want deleted messages moved to a trash mail box.
Here are some of my configs:
/var/qmail/rc:
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox sh -c 'accustamp | \
cyclog -s 500000 -n 10 /var/log/qmail'
~/.qmail:
|preline /usr/local/bin/procmail
~/.procmailrc:
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log/log.`date +%y-%m-%d`
SHELL=/bin/sh
:0:
* ^(From|Cc|To).*mutt.*@mutt.org
mutt/
:0:
* ^(Subject).*test
test/
~/.muttrc:
set folder=~/Mail
set mbox=+inbox/
set mbox_type=Maildir
set spoolfile=~/Maildir
I have been screwing around so much now that my configs are probably all
screwed up. Right now, if I send mail to myself, it gets delivered to
~/Mail/mark/ (a Maildir) _and_ /var/spool/mail/mark. If I attempt to use
a procmail recipe like the one for a Subject of "test", it does not
work. The message still gets delivered to ~/Mail/mark/.
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More strangeness....
I now have mail being forwarded to my machine from our hub. However it
is being spooled on /var/spool/mail/mark. Here is my /var/qmail/rc:
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox sh -c 'accustamp | cyclog -s 500000 -n 10
/var/log/qmail'
Which would normally deliver to ~/Mailbox only my ~/.qmail:
|preline /usr/local/bin/procmail
runs it through procmail. My procmail is the Maildir capable version and
my ~/.procmailrc is (shorted for clarity):
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log/log.`date +%y-%m-%d`
SHELL=/bin/sh
:0:
* ^(From|Cc|To).*mutt.*@mutt.org
mutt/
So mail from the mutt list(s) should get dumped into ~/Maildir/mutt/, a
Maildir format mail box which should be created by procmail as needed
no? No joy so I created the mailbox myself and what now? here is a
listing of ~/Maildir/mutt/:
signals:~/Maildir$ ls -l mutt
total 11
drwx------ 2 mark users 1024 Jun 16 15:00 cur/
-rw------- 1 mark users 3633 Jun 16 15:03 msg.ZA4B
-rw------- 1 mark users 3989 Jun 16 15:10 msg.aA4B
drwx------ 2 mark users 1024 Jun 16 15:00 new/
drwx------ 2 mark users 1024 Jun 16 15:00 tmp/
signals:~/Maildir$ ls -l mutt/new/
total 0
Those 2 funny looking files are messages from the mutt mailing list,
presumably dumped there by procmail.
I am all $&@^ed up.
Mail still being spooled on /var/spool/mail/mark. Wasn't there something
about procmail delivering to there regardless of the .procmailrc? Would
I be better off just going to maildrop?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Services
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...there are two types of command interfaces in the world of
computing: good interfaces and user interfaces.
- Dan Bernstein, Author of qmail
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> At 03:53 PM 6/15/99 -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
>>>domain.com:domain-com
>>>domain-com.com:domain-com-com
>>>
>>>Seems like a potential security risk. Has anyone addressed and/or resolved
>>>this issue?
>>
>>What issue? Who cares if your system accepts a message for
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and delivers it to
>>~alias/.qmail-domain-com-com-user?
> Well said. The problem is when mailling lists are involved. I guess it's
> just that I see the potential. And I could produce a situation, but the
> odds of it happening are up their with evolution. HA :)
Consider: myname.com and myname-com.com
Email is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Qmail accepts that and looks for
a user myname-com-joe
Email is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Qmail accepts that and looks for
a user myname-com-com-joe.
So what if we have [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
Qmail accepts that and looks for myname-com-com Which will *only*
match the single UID system *if* you have a catchall for myname-com.com
ala, +myname-com-com: It'll look for a .qmail-default for that domain.
It would be overridden (null and void) if you really did have a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] address (for myname.com) and the correct user would
get their own mail: =myname-com-com:
So, In short - it's a chance that someone in myname.com could
prevent myname-com.com from getting their email, given that
- they used the same ISP
- same mail servers
- clueless ISP
As well you could remove the whole problem and use a + instead of -
(involves qmail recompile)
Paul.
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At 03:51 PM 6/16/99 +0000, Paul Gregg wrote:
>So what if we have [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
>Qmail accepts that and looks for myname-com-com Which will *only*
>match the single UID system *if* you have a catchall for myname-com.com
>ala, +myname-com-com: It'll look for a .qmail-default for that domain.
>It would be overridden (null and void) if you really did have a
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] address (for myname.com) and the correct user would
>get their own mail: =myname-com-com:
>
>So, In short - it's a chance that someone in myname.com could
>prevent myname-com.com from getting their email, given that
>- they used the same ISP
>- same mail servers
>- clueless ISP
Thank you Paul!
First, thank you for the guide on how to use a single uid. It was clean
simple and I could easily understand it.
Second, thank you for understanding my question. I was tempted to use a
character other than -, and I didn't know which would be a good choice. Was
hoping '=' or '+' was.
I have been setting up a catch all for my domains so that the domain owner
will get all e-mail sent to their domain. (Historical service, still
supporting it.)
I figured I could watch for things like e-mail theifs and what not, but I
like feeling "secure" and I grealtly appreciate your insight.
Anyway. THANKS AGAIN.
Richard
Richard Roderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you Paul!
> First, thank you for the guide on how to use a single uid. It was clean
> simple and I could easily understand it.
> Second, thank you for understanding my question. I was tempted to use a
> character other than -, and I didn't know which would be a good choice. Was
> hoping '=' or '+' was.
I think using "+" really should be the default option. I don't use it myself
(maybe Dan knew of some strange unix FS that didn't like +s in filenames).
Someone really should write an explanation of how exactly it all works.
However, I wrote the UID howto based upon a normal qmail install.
Paul.
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I have installed the Sam Varshavchik
antispam filter patch (with maildrop), it work fine.
the mail is rejected.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Stephane
> From: "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:20:30 +0200
>
> Virscan is a homebrew Perl script that extracts Mime attachments, unpacks
> archives & uses uvscan on the resulting files. If uvscan finds anything the
> mail is redirected to the quarantine mailbox. It seems to be working pretty
> well (catches about a dozen viruses a day, mostly Ethan.A) even though there
> are some omissions.
Is this script mature enough to share? Since this wheel's been invented, I'd
just assume not do it myself if I can avoid it.
Chris
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Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
PGP signature
Was this email supposed to break pan viewing in MS Outlook? Currently I am
using MS Outlook here at work and am setting up QMail at home on my LINUX
machine.
The email that I'm responding to seems to have no message header. That is,
if I highlight it in outlook the viewing pane says "The preview pane cannot
display the current item or no item is selected."
If I open the email, I can see it's contents fine but there is an no header
when I go to View Options.
Is this a demonstration of what happens to an email that "had" a virus
attachment and was then stripped of it?
Alex Miller
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Garrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:33 AM
> To: Peter van der Landen
> Cc: Mark Drummond; Qmail
> Subject: Re: Blocking ExploreZip
>
>
> > From: "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:20:30 +0200
> >
> > Virscan is a homebrew Perl script that extracts Mime
> attachments, unpacks
> > archives & uses uvscan on the resulting files. If uvscan finds
> anything the
> > mail is redirected to the quarantine mailbox. It seems to be
> working pretty
> > well (catches about a dozen viruses a day, mostly Ethan.A) even
> though there
> > are some omissions.
>
> Is this script mature enough to share? Since this wheel's been
> invented, I'd
> just assume not do it myself if I can avoid it.
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Chris Garrigues virCIO
> +1 512 432 4046 4314 Avenue C O-
> http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ Austin, TX 78751-3709
> +1 512 374 0500
>
> My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an
> explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
>
> Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
> but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
>
>
>
> From: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:31:23 -0400
>
> Was this email supposed to break pan viewing in MS Outlook? Currently I am
> using MS Outlook here at work and am setting up QMail at home on my LINUX
> machine.
>
> The email that I'm responding to seems to have no message header. That is,
> if I highlight it in outlook the viewing pane says "The preview pane cannot
> display the current item or no item is selected."
>
> If I open the email, I can see it's contents fine but there is an no header
> when I go to View Options.
~shrug~ I know nothing about Outlook, but the message had headers on it when
it left and it should have had Recieved headers added to it by every box along
the way. Sounds like an Outlook bug to me.
> Is this a demonstration of what happens to an email that "had" a virus
> attachment and was then stripped of it?
No. This was just the question you quote below with a PGP signature on it.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Garrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:33 AM
> > To: Peter van der Landen
> > Cc: Mark Drummond; Qmail
> > Subject: Re: Blocking ExploreZip
> >
> >
> > > From: "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:20:30 +0200
> > >
> > > Virscan is a homebrew Perl script that extracts Mime
> > attachments, unpacks
> > > archives & uses uvscan on the resulting files. If uvscan finds
> > anything the
> > > mail is redirected to the quarantine mailbox. It seems to be
> > working pretty
> > > well (catches about a dozen viruses a day, mostly Ethan.A) even
> > though there
> > > are some omissions.
> >
> > Is this script mature enough to share? Since this wheel's been
> > invented, I'd
> > just assume not do it myself if I can avoid it.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --
> > Chris Garrigues virCIO
> > +1 512 432 4046 4314 Avenue C O-
> > http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ Austin, TX 78751-3709
> > +1 512 374 0500
> >
> > My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an
> > explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
> >
> > Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
> > but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
> >
> >
> >
>
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+1 512 432 4046 4314 Avenue C O-
http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ Austin, TX 78751-3709
+1 512 374 0500
My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an
explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
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An Outlook bug?
Maybe,
I didn't download today's mail from the ISP's server. I'll check my mail
tonight again using a LINUX client. I'll see what, if anything, unusual is
going on with that posting.
BTW, your web pages http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ and
http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html don't answer.
Alex Miller
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Garrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 2:03 PM
> To: Alex Miller
> Cc: Qmail
> Subject: Re: Blocking ExploreZip
>
>
> > From: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:31:23 -0400
> >
> > Was this email supposed to break pan viewing in MS Outlook?
> Currently I am
> > using MS Outlook here at work and am setting up QMail at home
> on my LINUX
> > machine.
> >
> > The email that I'm responding to seems to have no message
> header. That is,
> > if I highlight it in outlook the viewing pane says "The preview
> pane cannot
> > display the current item or no item is selected."
> >
> > If I open the email, I can see it's contents fine but there is
> an no header
> > when I go to View Options.
>
> ~shrug~ I know nothing about Outlook, but the message had
> headers on it when
> it left and it should have had Recieved headers added to it by
> every box along
> the way. Sounds like an Outlook bug to me.
>
> > Is this a demonstration of what happens to an email that "had" a virus
> > attachment and was then stripped of it?
>
> No. This was just the question you quote below with a PGP
> signature on it.
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Garrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:33 AM
> > > To: Peter van der Landen
> > > Cc: Mark Drummond; Qmail
> > > Subject: Re: Blocking ExploreZip
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: "Peter van der Landen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:20:30 +0200
> > > >
> > > > Virscan is a homebrew Perl script that extracts Mime
> > > attachments, unpacks
> > > > archives & uses uvscan on the resulting files. If uvscan finds
> > > anything the
> > > > mail is redirected to the quarantine mailbox. It seems to be
> > > working pretty
> > > > well (catches about a dozen viruses a day, mostly Ethan.A) even
> > > though there
> > > > are some omissions.
> > >
> > > Is this script mature enough to share? Since this wheel's been
> > > invented, I'd
> > > just assume not do it myself if I can avoid it.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Garrigues virCIO
> > > +1 512 432 4046 4314 Avenue C O-
> > > http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ Austin, TX 78751-3709
> > > +1 512 374 0500
> > >
> > > My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an
> > > explanation of what we're doing, see
http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
> >
> > Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
> > but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
> >
> >
> >
>
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explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 10:31:23AM +0200,
Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're right about the problem but you *can* use preline with vacation.
> The trick is needed:
>
> | preline sh -c '/usr/bin/vacation peter; cat > /dev/null'
>
> (I got it probably from the qmail list). It works, I used it. I sent
> myself a message sized a couple of MB to make sure :-) .
It might be better to change the vacation program to get the envelope
sender information from the environment rather than the from line.
If the envelope sender address has a space in it, it will be corrupted
when it is put in the from line. This would also save running preline
and cat for each mail delivery.
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 10:31:23AM +0200,
> Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You're right about the problem but you *can* use preline with vacation.
> > The trick is needed:
> >
> > | preline sh -c '/usr/bin/vacation peter; cat > /dev/null'
> >
> > (I got it probably from the qmail list). It works, I used it. I sent
> > myself a message sized a couple of MB to make sure :-) .
>
> It might be better to change the vacation program to get the envelope
> sender information from the environment rather than the from line.
> If the envelope sender address has a space in it, it will be corrupted
> when it is put in the from line. This would also save running preline
> and cat for each mail delivery.
My vacation program gets that info from the environment provided by
qmail. It does NOT need the UUCP style "From user@place" header that
sendmail vacation programs rely on. That's why you don't need preline
with my vacation program.
Regards
Peter
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"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Ok I have installed two instances of qMail each one bound to its specific
NIC card w/ separate tcpserver instances one for qmail and one for qmail2.
The issue I am having is that it seems that the /var/qmail2
/alias/.qmail-x files in the second instance of qmail are not being read.
But qMail2 is reading the .qmail files from the /var/qmail/alias/.qmail.
Is this right? Can qMail support two instances of itself? How can I get
e-mail coming in the second instance to read the correct .qmail file to
send it to the proper local mailbox?
Thanks
cp
I don't know how that would work. I was posing this as a question. My LINUX
machine uses only one static IP address and I would want different virtual
domains all using the same IP address.
My guess would be that a local-to-local send to user would simply go to the
Mailbox or Maildir of that user.
I would assume that if the email client is on the local machine, the LINUX
server, then I assume that local-to-local username addressing would work
normally.
Alex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 8:00 PM
> To: Alex Miller
> Subject: Re: Virtual Mail
>
>
> Dear Alex,
>
> Is your configuration based on different IP for different
> domains? If I have one IP for many domains, can the user enter
> "username" in their email client to receive email
> instead of "username%domain.com".
>
> Harris
>
> At 1999/6/15 PM 04:32:00, you wrote:
> >One thing that isn't clear from the documentation for a virtual domain is
> >this.
> >
> >Assuming your domain is acme.com
> >As a virtual domain, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to that account.
> >
> >Does qmail allow the following.
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (sent to mom's account)
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (sent to dad's account)
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (sent to my account)
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (sent to the account holding the virtual domain)
> >
> >
> >This is what I'd really like to do. And this is the current
> setup I have for
> >my main domain at my ISP which uses Post.Office on an NT machine
> >(boo...hiss, Gates is Beelzebub)
> >
> >When I get this working with qmail I'll dumpt the Post.Office setup at my
> >ISP and run that domain of the Linux box and NEVER go back to Microsoft!
> >
> >Alex Miller
> >
> >
> >
>
>
I've made a first rough cut at a QMAIL-CYRUS-HOWTO which is available at
http://www.compusense.com/qmail-cyrus/
There's an RPM, SRPM, tarball, and the individual files. As I caution in
HOWTO, the setup is RedHat centric. The actual instructions are a
bit sparse, but all the scripts are there to look at, and I've outlined
the general mechanism that will work on any system.
The RedHat setup works and I've documented that in the HOWTO. I'm sure
there will be few things that are unclear, I whipped this one off quick.
If anyone has any queries feel free to ask. Hope this is of some general
help.
jason.
The LDAP integration with Cyrus can be found at:
http://www.linc-dev.com/auth.html
There are good instructions for adding in the C source code but if I
remember correctly, there are a couple of typos in the file. I've had no
problems with it accessing our LDAP servers. The only outstanding issue is
that it is sending clear text from the cyrus server to your LDAP server.
Jon Scarbrough
Oakton Community College
Des Plaines, IL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've made a first rough cut at a QMAIL-CYRUS-HOWTO which is available at
>
> http://www.compusense.com/qmail-cyrus/
>
> There's an RPM, SRPM, tarball, and the individual files. As I caution in
> HOWTO, the setup is RedHat centric. The actual instructions are a
> bit sparse, but all the scripts are there to look at, and I've outlined
> the general mechanism that will work on any system.
>
> The RedHat setup works and I've documented that in the HOWTO. I'm sure
> there will be few things that are unclear, I whipped this one off quick.
> If anyone has any queries feel free to ask. Hope this is of some general
> help.
>
> jason.
I finally got around to grabbing the source to vixie-cron to try and figure
out more of what's going on. The call to sendmail/qmail looks like this:
/usr/lib/sendmail -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -or0s root
an associated comment explains:
/* -Fx = set full-name of sender
* -odi = Option Deliverymode Interactive
* -oem = Option Errors Mailedtosender
* -or0s = Option Readtimeout -- don't time out
*/
So, anyway, the 0x006f is obviously a 111, or a soft error.
We can't very well expect programs that call /usr/lib/sendmail to know what to
do about a 111 return code, can we? Should that progrma mask 111's into 0's?
Chris
> From: "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:31:29 -0500
>
> As I worked on tracking this problem down, I found that the last log entrie
> s for
> vixie-cron were:
>
> root (06/06-00:00:15-15757) MAIL (mailed 11060 bytes of output but got stat
> us 0x006f
> )
> root (06/06-00:00:15-30191) MAIL (mailed 11839 bytes of output but got stat
> us 0x006f
> )
> root (06/06-00:00:15-17528) MAIL (mailed 7360 bytes of output but got statu
> s 0x006f
> )
> root (06/06-00:00:15-4607) MAIL (mailed 13738 bytes of output but got statu
> s 0x006f
> )
>
> and Vixie asked me why qmail was sending a non-zero error code.
>
> here's the qmail log from that time (run through tailocal):
>
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.087851 new msg 4386
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.087860 info msg 4386: bytes 2004 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > qp 23495 uid 0
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.091695 starting delivery 6975: msg 4386 to local scicom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.091713 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.547616 new msg 4387
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.547625 info msg 4387: bytes 2117 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > qp 23501 uid 7790
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.577459 starting delivery 6976: msg 4387 to local root@d
> enali.scicomp.com
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.577476 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.577487 delivery 6975: success: Forwarding_scicompcom-ro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/forward:_qp_23501/did_0+0+1/
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.577510 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:15.577521 end msg 4386
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.077629 new msg 4386
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.077638 info msg 4386: bytes 2226 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > qp 23504 uid 7790
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127659 starting delivery 6977: msg 4386 to local scicom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127677 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127688 starting delivery 6978: msg 4386 to remote cwg-s
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127705 status: local 2/10 remote 1/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127716 delivery 6976: success: did_0+4+0/qp_23504/
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127728 status: local 1/10 remote 1/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127739 starting delivery 6979: msg 4386 to local scicom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127756 status: local 2/10 remote 1/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.127767 end msg 4387
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.128615 starting delivery 6980: msg 4386 to local scicom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.128633 status: local 3/10 remote 1/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.450693 delivery 6978: success: 10.1.1.1_accepted_messag
> e./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_928645216_qp_24445/
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.450716 status: local 3/10 remote 0/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.910468 new msg 4389
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.910478 info msg 4389: bytes 2341 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > qp 23522 uid 7790
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.912152 starting delivery 6981: msg 4389 to remote ryoun
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.912170 status: local 3/10 remote 1/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.914047 delivery 6977: success: Forwarding_scicompcom-ry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/forward:_qp_23522/did_0+0+1/
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.914072 status: local 2/10 remote 1/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.917547 new msg 4387
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.917555 info msg 4387: bytes 2339 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > qp 23521 uid 7790
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.919209 starting delivery 6982: msg 4387 to remote kant@
> kathmandu.scicomp.com
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.919227 status: local 2/10 remote 2/20
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.919747 delivery 6979: success: Forwarding_scicompcom-ka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/forward:_qp_23521/did_0+0+1/
> 1999-06-06 00:00:16.919771 status: local 1/10 remote 2/20
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 9 Jun 1999 13:38:21 -0400
>
> >> On Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:26:11 -0500,
> >> "Chris Garrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> C> I've got a system on which cron keeps dying. Would it work to run cron
> C> under supervise?
>
> Probably, but I'd recommend fixing the root problem by replacing your
> cron with something more robust. I had the same problem under
> Solaris-2.5.1, and replaced the system cron with another version called
> "dcron":
> ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/daemons/cron/dcron-2.3.3.tar.gz
>
> As it turns out, something I did was causing cron to die periodically,
> but I still like the new one better:
>
> a. I can schedule jobs to run every 5 minutes starting 3 minutes after
> the hour by using something like this in the "minutes" field: 3-58/5
I don't need that, but cute nevertheless.
> b. I use accustamp, tailocal, and cyclog to handle all logging, so I
> don't have to restart cron just to clean up log files.
So you're saying dcron works with djb's tools?
> c. It's written very cleanly, and it's smaller than Vixie-cron.
That's a plus.
I've been hoping not to modify the distribution too much since I have to
replicate it, but you're making a pretty good case. I'll take a look. Do you
know if it's been RPM'd?
Chris
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My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an
explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
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Hello. I have a number of messages in the queue that are repeatedly
deferred. Not quite sure the reason, nor have I noticed any posts
similar to this on the list. Below is a copy of the log files showing a
portion of the messages deferred in this manner. There look to be about
40 of them. Number does not seem to increase or decrease. Permissions
and ownership of the vdelivermail binary are correct, and all other mail
is delivered correctly. Any help or insights would be appreciated.
Regards,
Stephen Comoletti
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.672266 delivery 312476:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.675253 status: local 22/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.676916 delivery 312439:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.678501 status: local 21/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.680039 delivery 312467:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.682212 status: local 20/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.683913 delivery 312468:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.685654 status: local 19/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.687283 delivery 312469:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.689182 status: local 18/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.690922 delivery 312470:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.692619 status: local 17/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.694391 delivery 312471:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.696061 status: local 16/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.697719 delivery 312472:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.699680 status: local 15/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.701068 delivery 312473:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.702743 status: local 14/50
remote 57/120
Jun 16 15:51:46 <2.6> hermes qmail: 929562706.704389 delivery 312474:
deferral: /export/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail:_permission_denied/
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote:
JGna>On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Christian Wiese wrote:
JGna>>Q: What do you use to enable Maildir support for your IMAP server, and which
JGna>>IMAP server do you use ?
JGna>
JGna>We dont support IMAP, but there are IMAP servers out that do support
JGna>maildir (cyrus)
I believe that cyrus supports its own black box format, which can be fed by
qmail.
JGna>>Q: Do you have a location of Qmail-IMAP-HOWTO (or something else, explaining the
JGna>>configuration) ?
JGna>
JGna>No, but from what i understand, the cyrus instructions are pretty straight
JGna>forward. The only complaint i've heard is having to add your users to the
JGna>cyrus software as well as the local system. (keep in mind i've never used
JGna>the cyrus imap server)
Permission and groups are key. Also, I've found it necessary to stick a
wrapper around cyrus' deliver agent that will grok its exit codes into
something that qmail can deal with.
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--"It's not that simple."
Using qmail, is /bin/mail supposed to be replaced (by a qmail-* program)?
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Dynacare, Inc
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> Using qmail, is /bin/mail supposed to be replaced (by a qmail-*
> program)?
Yes. It's /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject, I believe.
- -Jay
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Hi there.
qmail-inject doesnt work the sameway.
On the mailing list archive, i read someone talked about deliver, a linux software.
Freshemat has something about such an application, but the homepage it points to is
only an empty directory.
Have a nice day.
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:31:59PM -0700, Jay D. Dyson wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Albert Hopkins wrote:
>
> > Using qmail, is /bin/mail supposed to be replaced (by a qmail-*
> > program)?
>
> Yes. It's /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject, I believe.
>
Albert Hopkins wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> Using qmail, is /bin/mail supposed to be replaced (by a qmail-* program)?
On Linux: no. All /bin/mail I have seen on Linux is mailx and invokes
sendmail. You only need to replace /bin/mail if it actually wants to
deliver mail (locally) on its own. One can find this sort of program
usually as deliver, mail.local and procmail on Linux systems - but
only until the admin has decided to eradicate them.
Other systems: depends. (But your header looks like you're running
Linux.)
Stefan
Hi there.
I am using Maildir with qmail. Before I used pine(with Mailbox)
I don't know what mailer I can use with Maildir.(forget netscape or this
kind of stuff)
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Stephan
Stephane Morand wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> I am using Maildir with qmail. Before I used pine(with Mailbox)
> I don't know what mailer I can use with Maildir.(forget netscape or this
> kind of stuff)
http://www.mutt.org/
Stefan
I could have sworn I saw an ETRN patch for qmail last week on the qmail
home page - was it my imagination (totally possible) or has it been
vaporized?
-Mahlon
--------------------------
Mahlon Smith
InternetCDS
http://www.internetcds.com
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 03:36:52PM -0700, Mahlon Smith wrote:
Somebody did indeed write an ETRN patch for qmail. However, when
serialmail-0.75 was released with AutoTURN, the ETRN patch became pretty
much unnecessary.
> I could have sworn I saw an ETRN patch for qmail last week on the qmail
> home page - was it my imagination (totally possible) or has it been
> vaporized?
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Anand
I am having problem running qmail on Solaris 2.7 system.
Somehow, qmail-1.03 s/w is not working, especially tcp-env
and qmail-remote binaries.
Anyone knows why?
Thanks in advance.
BK
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:22:28PM -0700, Bhushan Kerur wrote:
I'm running qmail 1.03 just fine on my new ultrasparc with Solaris 7. What
problems are you facing?
> I am having problem running qmail on Solaris 2.7 system.
> Somehow, qmail-1.03 s/w is not working, especially tcp-env
> and qmail-remote binaries.
> Anyone knows why?
> Thanks in advance.
> BK
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Anand
I am installing qmail, and I have gone through the steps correctly so far,
and things have been working with the install until I get to the ./config.
When I run ./config, I get this message:
It informs me what my hostname is, then tells me..
"soft error
Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS.
You will have to set up control/me yourself."
I can't find any help files on this error. Does anyone know what might be
going wrong? Thanks for any help.
james
Text written by James at 05:07 PM 6/16/99 -0700:
>
>It informs me what my hostname is, then tells me..
>
>"soft error
>Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS.
>You will have to set up control/me yourself."
>
>I can't find any help files on this error. Does anyone know what might be
>going wrong? Thanks for any help.
It just means that once installation is complete, and before you try to use
qmail, you'll need to edit (or create) the file ~/control/me to be your
hostname. (Well, it means some other things, too, like the fact that qmail
couldn't get your host's name from DNS. If you thought you had DNS running
on this machine, that should be a red flag. However, if your nameserver is
some other machine, and you get back decent results from nslookup, I
wouldn't worry overmuch.)
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>From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)
cracking /n./
The act of breaking into a computer system; what a cracker does.
Contrary to widespread myth, this does not usually involve some
mysterious leap of hackerly brilliance, but rather persistence and
the dogged repetition of a handful of fairly well-known tricks that
exploit common weaknesses in the security of target systems. Accord-
ingly, most crackers are only mediocre hackers.
On 17-Jun-99 James wrote:
> I am installing qmail, and I have gone through the steps correctly so far,
> and things have been working with the install until I get to the ./config.
> When I run ./config, I get this message:
>
> It informs me what my hostname is, then tells me..
>
> "soft error
> Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS.
> You will have to set up control/me yourself."
>
> I can't find any help files on this error. Does anyone know what might be
> going wrong? Thanks for any help.
There's an alternate program to ./config. Look at INSTALL.ctl.
Vince.
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Apologies for the slightly off topic, but I suspect that I'm not the only
qmail/cyrus user.
Thanks to Jason I have qmail delivering to cyrus via procmail to nicely
sorted mail distribution tree.
My problem is that I'm unable to share user folders and folders created with
the cyrus create mailfolder command as folder instead of user.folder are
visible to everyone. I'm primarily using IE 4 and 5 as clients. Netscape is
worse. It shows all the folders, even other users'.
I just did a fresh install on RH 6.0.
I'm hoping I missed something rather than it being normal.
The ultimate question: Is anyone using qmail/cyrus and does the Access Level
Control work correctly? I.e. can you share a folder with other users and
block the folders that should be private from the view/access of other
users.
TIA - Heinz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have run through the test.deliver tests and it seems okay, as near as I
can tell.
So, I did the remove of sendmail steps and set up qmail to start by itself.
Everything seems ok, except for receiving remote mail
I tried:
TEST.recieve
the first step is to run a telnet session.
Here's what happens
telnet 127.0.0.1 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1
Escapee character is '^]'
Connection closed by foreign host.
So somehow post 25 is failing.
I tried sending myself an email remotely but it's been more than 5 hours and
nothing has bounced back and I can't seem to see any indication in the
/var/log/maillog of an attempt to deliver.
Alex Miller
Hello,
I have a client who is using M/S Exchange 5.5 to download/upload the emails
from my server. I have qmail-1.03 running in my server. He has a domain
called blah.htp.com.np and is give a fixed IP address from my server. I have
an MX entry for his domain as well and created a virtual doamain such that
all the messaes for his domains comes to his mail box. But whenever he tries
to send the mails from my server it says
Internet mali service is configured to used ETRN to Dequeue mail but
206.82.132.2 does not support ETRN
what does this means, does not qmail supports ETRN?
I am not on the list, pls reply personally.
TIA.
Regards,
K.Khanal
Hi,
this morning I tried to move my queue to another directory, using the
following procedure:
1) stop everything of qmail
2) mv /var/qmail/queue /tmp/queue
3) queue-fix /tmp/queue
4) ln -s /tmp/queue /var/qmail/queue
5) start qmail
After this, I saw the following error a hundred times in my qmail log file:
929610000.245483 alert: cannot start: hath the daemon spawn no fire?
Does anybody know what I did wrong? I followed the hints for moving the
queue like told in the README file provided with queue-fix.
Is it possible that qmail doesn't like a symbolic link? Should I recompile
qmail with the new location of the queue?
Franky
I my postmaster mailbox I get a lot of trash from those of
our customers that use an MTA which identifies itself as:
Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) and
Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0).
That really a pain.
How can I prevent those messages from ending up as double
bounces in my postmaster mailbox? They are totally useless,
even for spammer tracing, because the received lines are
missing.
Can I make qmail block them?
I think the blocking criteria might be:
If return-path is empty and from is [EMAIL PROTECTED], drop it.
What would you do / what are you doing?
Do you know the product so I can tell the customers how to fix
their systems?
Here is a typical message that ends up as a double bounce. In this
case the bogus sender is a spammer. It could also originate from
a non-spammer, and sometimes it is a positive delivery notification
like "Your message was delivered to the following recipeint(s):":
Return-Path: <>
Received: (qmail 12368 invoked from network); 17 Jun 1999 07:10:22 -0000
Received: from foulum01.agrsci.dk (130.226.240.22)
by mail.net.uni-c.dk with SMTP; 17 Jun 1999 07:10:22 -0000
Received: by foulum01.agrsci.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9)
id <NBKR28MG>; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:09:14 +0200
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable: "How to Pay Zero Taxes" Selling in stores for $30,Free!
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