qmail Digest 21 Jun 1999 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 678

Topics (messages 26935 through 26953):

ANNOUNCE: imap-maildir
        26935 by: Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        26937 by: "David Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Memphis RPM Pop3d
        26936 by: "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        26953 by: "Claudiu Balciza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

failure notice (fwd)
        26938 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        26939 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        26940 by: Richard Letts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

qmail-pop3d.init errors
        26941 by: Stewart Jeacocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Problem with delayed E-mail.
        26942 by: Victor Regnér <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        26945 by: Richard Letts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        26947 by: Victor Regnér <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        26952 by: Richard Letts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

changing domains
        26943 by: Stewart Jeacocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Newbie Question - Please Read!
        26944 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

reserved user names?
        26946 by: Magnus Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        26950 by: Magnus Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Multiple accounts
        26948 by: "Techservice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gateway control of PPP link
        26949 by: "Techservice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

can qmail do this thing ?
        26951 by: "Urania.C.F.Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 at 21:27:21 -0400, David Harris wrote:
> 
> imap-maildir: production quality UW-imap server Maildir support
[...]
> Quick Summary:
[...]
> The University of Wisconsin IMAP server by Mark Crispin, one of the most
> popular IMAP servers, does not have built-in Maildir support. There is a

Excuse my pedantry... 
David, you probably meant Washington, not Wisconsin University :-) .
If so, just don't answer this message, my comment lowered the SNR
ratio of the list sufficiently ;-) .

-- 
 Tomasz Papszun   SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland  | And it's only
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/   | ones and zeros.





Tomasz Papszun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Excuse my pedantry...
> David, you probably meant Washington, not Wisconsin University :-) .
> If so, just don't answer this message, my comment lowered the SNR
> ratio of the list sufficiently ;-) .

Yeah, you are right. Someone else told me that right after the announce went
out, and I've updated the web page.

 - David Harris
   Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services






I have deleted the qmail-pop3d.init file from /etc/rc.d/init.d and instead
have added the pop-3 stream to inetd.conf

pop-3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmai/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup
r84aap011904.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com /bin/checkpassword
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir

all as one line.

I have created a test user account guest with the password guest (I will be
deleting it after I get pop working please don't hack my system) The maildir
works fine, I can send mail to and from it using pine.

Now, if I attempt to collect my guest mail with a pop client (MS Outlook) I
set it as follows:
Incoming mail (Pop3): r84aap011904.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com
Account name: guest
Password: guest

The failure is that my account and password is not accepted, it keeps asking
for the account and password again and again. When I finally cancel I get
the error message:

There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your User Name or
Password was rejected. Server Response: '-ERR' authorization failed".
(Account: 'TestLinuxBox', POP3 Server:
'r84aap011904.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com', Error Number: 0x00cc92).

So, it seems that pop-3 is a running service, but that checkpassword is not
reading my /etc/passwd file correctly (I guess).

I looked in /etc/services and there were 2 services on 110, pop and pop-3,
so I've deleted pop (now there is only pop-3 listed) and still the same
problem. (I rebooted too, so it's definitely configured that way)

Can anyone help?

Alex Miller


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 10:13 PM
> To: Qmail
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Memphis RPM Pop3d
>
>
> I've installed the Memphis RPM. I didn't even know that at first. I just
> took thought it was the RPM listed at the top of www.qmail.org.
>
> Well, looking at the file Installing Qmail on Redhat Linux at
> http://qmail-docs.surfdirect.com.au/docs/redhat.html
>
> it says the following.
>
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail-qmail-pop3d.init is provided to manage a
> POP daemon.
> However, this is untested and needs to modified in order to work.
>
> Ok, that's true, it doesn't work. Does anyone know what modifcations he is
> referring to? Should I remove the qmil-pop3d.init file and start pop-3
> myself in my qmail startup script?
>
> Also, should it work like this?
> I have a user account alex with a password.
> If I specify my hostname (what is returned when I execute hostname),
> username, and password in a normal pop account, I should be able
> to connect
> and read my mail, right?
>
> Alex Miller
>
>





if there's no *qmail-pop3d.init in /etc/rc.d/rcx.d
then do the following:
in /etc/rc.d/rc0.d and /etc/rc.d/rc1.d and /etc/rc.d/rc2.d and
/etc/rc.d/rc6.d
# ln -s ../init.d/qmail-pop3d.init K48qmail-pop3d.init
in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d and /etc/rc.d/rc4.d and /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
# ln -s ../init.d/qmail-pop3d.init S82qmail-pop3d.init

this would start/stop the pop3d daemon automatically upon system
start/stop/restart

hope this helps

Claudiu

----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 05:12
Subject: Memphis RPM Pop3d


> I've installed the Memphis RPM. I didn't even know that at first. I just
> took thought it was the RPM listed at the top of www.qmail.org.
>
> Well, looking at the file Installing Qmail on Redhat Linux at
> http://qmail-docs.surfdirect.com.au/docs/redhat.html
>
> it says the following.
>
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail-qmail-pop3d.init is provided to manage a POP
daemon.
> However, this is untested and needs to modified in order to work.
>
> Ok, that's true, it doesn't work. Does anyone know what modifcations he is
> referring to? Should I remove the qmil-pop3d.init file and start pop-3
> myself in my qmail startup script?
>
> Also, should it work like this?
> I have a user account alex with a password.
> If I specify my hostname (what is returned when I execute hostname),
> username, and password in a normal pop account, I should be able to
connect
> and read my mail, right?
>
> Alex Miller
>
>






hey all, does anyone know if it is possible to get qmail to allow '.' in
aliases? ie: i created a .qmail-cow.cow-moo in my home dir with all the
right permissions but i can't send to it. and if qmail doesn't allow this
does anyone know of a patch that will?

thanks,
-xs


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Date: 20 Jun 1999 14:04:07 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at simba.safari.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

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Content-Type: text

test






got it,
msg #24802 
use :'s


thanks me,
-xs


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On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>hey all, does anyone know if it is possible to get qmail to allow '.' in
>aliases? ie: i created a .qmail-cow.cow-moo in my home dir with all the
>right permissions but i can't send to it. and if qmail doesn't allow this
>does anyone know of a patch that will?
>
>thanks,
>-xs
>
>
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>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: 20 Jun 1999 14:04:07 -0000
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: failure notice
>
>Hi. This is the qmail-send program at simba.safari.net.
>I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
>This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
>
>--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Received: (qmail 13604 invoked by uid 2600); 20 Jun 1999 14:04:06 -0000
>Date: 20 Jun 1999 14:04:06 -0000
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>MBOX-Line: From xs Sun Jun 20 10:04 EDT 1999
>Content-Type: text
>
>test
>





On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> hey all, does anyone know if it is possible to get qmail to allow '.' in
> aliases? ie: i created a .qmail-cow.cow-moo in my home dir with all the
> right permissions but i can't send to it. and if qmail doesn't allow this
> does anyone know of a patch that will?


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       dot-qmail - control the delivery of mail messages

...
       WARNING: For security, qmail-local replaces  any  dots  in
       ext  with  colons  before checking .qmail-ext.  For conve-
       nience, qmail-local converts any uppercase letters in  ext
       to lowercase.
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try .qmail-cow:cow-moo

RjL





Some people seem to have had problems getting the qmail-pop3d daemon to
work using the qmail-pop3d.init script which the qmail srpm on
www.qmail.org installs. I have successfully got this to work as follows

First off you must install the checkpassword rpm

Now you have to make qmail-pop3d run at boot
Go to /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (or whatever runlevel you normally boot into)
You should find that in this directory there is a link called
K<n>qmail-pop3d.init , where <n> is a two digit number
Now look for the link S<N>qmail.init, where <N> is another two digit
number
Rename K<n>qmail-pop3d.init to S<a>qmail-pop3d.init , where <a> is any
two digit number you like as long as it is larger than <N>
Restart or equivalent

To summarize the rpm installs symbolic links to the qmail-pop3d.init
script in the rc.d subdirectories. However it gives them numbers lower
than the qmail.init script. This means that the pop3d script executes
before the rest of qmail. Since it depends on other parts of the qmail
system it fails.

I am relatively new to Linux so any comments are welcome

Stewart





I've got at problem with my mailserver.
It take about 30 mins for it to send an e-mail. It only sends and recives
email for about 25 persons.
Anyone got a clue what could be wrong?


Victor





On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] Victor Regnér wrote:

> I've got at problem with my mailserver.
> It take about 30 mins for it to send an e-mail. It only sends and recives
> email for about 25 persons.
> Anyone got a clue what could be wrong?

all together now....

It's probably permissions on queue/lock/trigger
prw--w--w-   1 qmails   qmail           0 Jun 20 21:20  lock/trigger



RjL
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My queue/lock/triggers locks just like yours.

prw--w----   1 qmails   qmail           0 Nov  2  1998 trigger

Victor


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Letts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Victor Regnér <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Qmail Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with delayed E-mail.


On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] Victor Regnér wrote:

> I've got at problem with my mailserver.
> It take about 30 mins for it to send an e-mail. It only sends and recives
> email for about 25 persons.
> Anyone got a clue what could be wrong?

all together now....

It's probably permissions on queue/lock/trigger
prw--w--w-   1 qmails   qmail           0 Jun 20 21:20  lock/trigger



RjL
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On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] Victor Regnér wrote:

> My queue/lock/triggers locks just like yours.
no it isn't


yours:
> prw--w----   1 qmails   qmail           0 Nov  2  1998 trigger

mine:
> prw--w--w-   1 qmails   qmail           0 Jun 20 21:20  lock/trigger
          ^

Richard





I want messages sent to user@domain1 to be forwarded to user@domain2.
How can I do this?

I tried setting up a virtual domain
domain1:alias-1

and putting
| forward "$LOCAL"@domain2
in ~alias/.qmail-1-default

but this causes the message to loop

any help appreciated

Stewart







>> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:04:04 -0400, 
>> "Alex Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

A> So my feeling is that Redhat systems are sufficiently different from the
A> norm that their own unique install of QMail is required and the only way
A> to get that right now, is by using RPM's.

   I'm running RedHat-5.0 on a Pentium-Pro, and the only problem I had
   with compiling qmail from sources is creating a fake DNS setup.  I don't
   have a modem hooked up at home.  *sob*

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  or  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  Ellen Degeneres & Anne Heche.                --Movieline, November 1998





Which user names should be reserved in a mail system not to allow users
to get mail accounts that might imply that their posess powers that they
don't have? 

RFC2142 suggests some; but I would like to get pointers to some security
documents.

Thanks in advance.

/magnus





On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Stanley Horwitz wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Magnus Bodin wrote:
> > Which user names should be reserved in a mail system not to allow users
> > to get mail accounts that might imply that their posess powers that they
> > don't have? 
> > 
> > RFC2142 suggests some; but I would like to get pointers to some security
> > documents.
> 
> Certainly, any that are already in /etc/passwd should be reserved. Chances
> are that you won't need to reserve any other user names.

ok. I was a bit unclear.

If I set up a mail system that provides users virtual mail accounts for
a given domain "example.com", then what "user names" should be reserved
to be fairly assured that they don't easily can pretend that they are
part of the administrative force? So that they don't get emailadresses
like "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which wouldn't be that wise....

abuse, postmaster, admin, root, mailer-daemon, administrator, info,
sales, support, helpdesk, majordomo, manager, ceo, chief, 

..

and the list goes on. RFC 2142 (http://rfc2142.x42.com) suggest some;
but as I said, if somebody has set up a larger list in a security doc --
then that's what I want.

Any luck in the wordlists that comes with cracking software?

/magnus
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Subject: Multiple accounts
A customer wishes to have this setup

"dave"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"mark"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:     :         :

what setup is required in controls and will we need one account
per Real user 
ie "dave"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  trans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Please send any details to work Email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ta






How can Qmail handle a setup where the PPP link is not controlled 
by linux but is a hardware based dial-on-demand "box".

two questions 
1) messages outgoing - do you need serialmail/scripts

2) fetchmail - if triggered by Cron will it wait until the link is 
up or hang 

"newbie alert"

please send info to my work Email 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks







    if i want to do a thing like this ...

    qmail receives a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from local or SMTP from
network, and qmail will re-send this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
at remote mailserver.

    i can do this by sendmail,
    but i don't know how to config qmail to do it ....



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