On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Scott D. Yelich wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Alex Miller wrote:
>> > And why SHOULD anyone care about your hacker troubles, and your lack
>> > of a firewall, and your overwhelming email traffic? Would you like
>> > someone to read your email to you, or build you a firewall?
>> Well, I certainly do. He seemed to describe already having "4 redundant
>> firewalls" whatever that means.
>
>John from NM doesn't want to hear about off topic cracker headaches. 
>It's ok, John, they'll be coming your way soon enough.  I'm sure he is
>aware of Rt 66 and the happy hacker.  It's lame when you call an ISP for
>weeks wondering why you can't get your email or something and all they
>will tell you is that they're doing maintenance or upgrades and it will
>be back real soon now -- when the truth is they've been cracked.

<much snipped for brevity>

It really doesnt matter what i want to hear about or not. That's not what
this list is about. I dont care that he has been hacked 1,000,000 times by
1,000,000 different hackers. I dont care if he has 1,000,000 different
redudant firewalls all in a row. I dont care if 1,000,000 different credit
card numbers were stolen from an ISP. They are off topic for this list. If
you want to shoot private messages back and forth, fine with me, but
please dont drag the rest of the list in with you. This is a qmail list,
not a hack-track list, not a firewall help list.

There are appropriate places for discussion of those topics, and they
exist so you dont have to discuss those on lists where it is
inappropriate.

This really isnt rocket science, or am i just that far off the deep end?

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