qmail Digest 23 Aug 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 737

Topics (messages 29311 through 29327):

auth/identd?
        29311 by: "Peter Samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29312 by: John Conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

auth/identd? (fwd)
        29313 by: "Peter Samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

checkpasswd for post.office passwords
        29314 by: Jon Rust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29315 by: Jon Rust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

URGENT: QMAIL problems!!! :(((
        29316 by: Dmitry Niqiforoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29317 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29318 by: "Olivier M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29319 by: Dmitry Niqiforoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29320 by: "Olivier M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29321 by: Gary Barnden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Problem solver. Thanks! Now: long user names...
        29322 by: Dmitry Niqiforoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29324 by: Faried Nawaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wildmat patch
        29323 by: "James J. Lippard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Case Sensitive
        29325 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        29326 by: "Amit Vadehra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

former user
        29327 by: aw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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On 21 Aug 1999, John Conover wrote:

>
> Qmail does not use auth/identd, right?
>

Maybe :)

If you run qmail-smtpd from either inetd/tcp-env or tcpserver then the
default operation is to do identd lookups. However, you can turn these
off by using the -R option to either tcpenv or tcpserver. See the man
pages for both.

This one is from tcp-env(1):

    -r    (Default.)  Attempt to obtain TCPREMOTEINFO  from  the remote
          host.

    -R    Do not attempt to obtain TCPREMOTEINFO from the remote host.


Regards
Peter
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Peter Samuel writes:
> 
> If you run qmail-smtpd from either inetd/tcp-env or tcpserver then the
> default operation is to do identd lookups. However, you can turn these
> off by using the -R option to either tcpenv or tcpserver. See the man
> pages for both.
> 
> This one is from tcp-env(1):
> 
>     -r    (Default.)  Attempt to obtain TCPREMOTEINFO  from  the remote
>         host.
> 
>     -R    Do not attempt to obtain TCPREMOTEINFO from the remote host.
> 
>

Thanks, Peter. Is it common to use identd for qmail-smtp?

        Thanks,

        John

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:50:03 +1000 (EST)
From: Peter Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: auth/identd?

On 23 Aug 1999, John Conover wrote:

> Peter Samuel writes:
> > 
> > If you run qmail-smtpd from either inetd/tcp-env or tcpserver then the
> > default operation is to do identd lookups. However, you can turn these
> > off by using the -R option to either tcpenv or tcpserver. See the man
> > pages for both.
> > 
> > This one is from tcp-env(1):
> > 
> >     -r    (Default.)  Attempt to obtain TCPREMOTEINFO  from  the remote
> >       host.
> > 
> >     -R    Do not attempt to obtain TCPREMOTEINFO from the remote host.
> > 
> >
> 
> Thanks, Peter. Is it common to use identd for qmail-smtp?
> 
>       Thanks,

Depends on your setup. If you can trust the remote site to give you
correct information, then you can use identd without fear. However, if
you can't trust the remote site, then it's probably not much use to
you. It also adds a fair bit of latency to the initial exchange -
especially if the remote end does not support identd at all. In cases
such as these you can add as much as 10 seconds to each transaction,
waiting for the identd call to timeout.

As a rule, I disable it whereever I can.

Regards
Peter
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About two weeks ago I stumbled upon a checkpassword implementation 
that could check passwords against post.office (from software.com) 
encrypted passwords. Now I can't find it anywhere. Doh! Anyone got a 
link to such a beast?

thanks,
jon

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Ahhh... found it in the qmail-ldap patch.

    http://www.nrg4u.com/

Sorry for the noise,
jon

I wrote 8 minutes ago:
>About two weeks ago I stumbled upon a checkpassword implementation 
>that could check passwords against post.office (from software.com) 
>encrypted passwords. Now I can't find it anywhere. Doh! Anyone got a 
>link to such a beast?
>
>thanks,
>jon




Hello!

  Yesterday I moved from sendmail to qmail and now I got a problem.
The problem is it doesn't recognizes usernames with dots in it. For
example, there is a user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", and qmail can not
deliver a message to him: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, no mailbox
here by that name. (#5.1.1).

  Is there a way to force qmail to process messages for such users
correctly?

________________________________________________________
  Regards, Dmitry Niqiforoff      [tel. +7 8462 427427]
  Kraft-S, Ltd.
  Samara, Russia




Qmail changes all dots to the : character ':' -- you might want to search
all the documentation, including the LWQ (life with qmail) home page. It
has what you need.

http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#dots-in-extensions

specifically :)

On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Dmitry Niqiforoff wrote:

>Hello!
>
>  Yesterday I moved from sendmail to qmail and now I got a problem.
>The problem is it doesn't recognizes usernames with dots in it. For
>example, there is a user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", and qmail can not
>deliver a message to him: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, no mailbox
>here by that name. (#5.1.1).
>
>  Is there a way to force qmail to process messages for such users
>correctly?
>
>________________________________________________________
>  Regards, Dmitry Niqiforoff      [tel. +7 8462 427427]
>  Kraft-S, Ltd.
>  Samara, Russia
>

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On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 10:56:08AM +0500, Dmitry Niqiforoff wrote:
>   Yesterday I moved from sendmail to qmail and now I got a problem.
> The problem is it doesn't recognizes usernames with dots in it. For
> [..]  Is there a way to force qmail to process messages for such users
> correctly?

What about reading the docs ? :) In the FAQ :

-------------
4.6. How do I create aliases with dots? I tried setting up
~alias/.qmail-P.D.Q.Bach, but it doesn't do anything.

Answer: Use .qmail-p:d:q:bach. Dots are converted to colons, and
uppercase is converted to lowercase.
-------------

Greetings,
Olivier




John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote:

> Qmail changes all dots to the : character ':' -- you might want to search
> all the documentation, including the LWQ (life with qmail) home page. It
> has what you need.
>
> http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#dots-in-extensions
>
> specifically :)

  And what is the solution? There is user "t.v.ship" and he has FTP and HTTP
access also, on the same server. Now I have to rename him? I have a lot of
such users. Each user have to have an alias?
  Is there a way to disable this feature?

________________________________________________________
  Regards, Dmitry Niqiforoff      [tel. +7 8462 427427]
  Kraft-S, Ltd.
  Samara, Russia







On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 12:01:10PM +0500, Dmitry Niqiforoff wrote:
> John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote:
> > Qmail changes all dots to the : character ':' -- you might want to search
> > all the documentation, including the LWQ (life with qmail) home page. It
> > has what you need.
> > http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#dots-in-extensions
> > specifically :)
> 
>   And what is the solution? There is user "t.v.ship" and he has FTP and HTTP
> access also, on the same server. Now I have to rename him? I have a lot of
> such users. Each user have to have an alias?
>   Is there a way to disable this feature?

No, it should be necessary to "disable" this feature. How do your
configuration looks like (/var/qmail/control), 
and what exactely doesn't work (did you try all the tests after
the qmail install) ?

Olivier




Hiyah,

You could use qmail's assign file and Paul Gregg's poppasswd program, this 
will allow you to maintain a separate user/passwd file just for qmail

check out http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.txt

Regads

Gary Barnden

At 12:01 23/08/99 +0500, you wrote:
>John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote:
>
> > Qmail changes all dots to the : character ':' -- you might want to search
> > all the documentation, including the LWQ (life with qmail) home page. It
> > has what you need.
> >
> > http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#dots-in-extensions
> >
> > specifically :)
>
>   And what is the solution? There is user "t.v.ship" and he has FTP and HTTP
>access also, on the same server. Now I have to rename him? I have a lot of
>such users. Each user have to have an alias?
>   Is there a way to disable this feature?
>
>________________________________________________________
>   Regards, Dmitry Niqiforoff      [tel. +7 8462 427427]
>   Kraft-S, Ltd.
>   Samara, Russia
>
>





"Olivier M." wrote:

> >   And what is the solution? There is user "t.v.ship" and he has FTP and HTTP
> > access also, on the same server. Now I have to rename him? I have a lot of
> > such users. Each user have to have an alias?
> >   Is there a way to disable this feature?
>
> No, it should be necessary to "disable" this feature. How do your
> configuration looks like (/var/qmail/control),
> and what exactely doesn't work (did you try all the tests after
> the qmail install) ?

  Oops... Seems to me everything O'k now. The problem was when I've been
converting old /var/spool/mail mailboxes to new ~user/Mailbox, chown wasn't
working with dots in user name. I think it is better to say our managers not to
allow users have dots in their logins.

  Then, there is another question: is it possible to handle usernames longer than
8 symbols?

________________________________________________________
  Regards, Dmitry Niqiforoff      [tel. +7 8462 427427]
  Kraft-S, Ltd.
  Samara, Russia







[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dmitry Niqiforoff) writes:
  
    Then, there is another question: is it possible to handle usernames longer than
  8 symbols?
  
If your operating system won't allow you to have more than 8 characters,
try the qmail-users mechanism.

See the man pages for qmail-users and qmail-newu.  Also, see
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#qmail-users
  

Faried.
-- 
HALL MONITOR




Has anyone updated this for qmail 1.03?  The current one is for 1.01.
(BTW, the mail link for Mark Delany on the qmail web page is out of date,
too.)

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Hi all,

I have qmail working quite satisfactory
with help from lwq and all of you.

I have now made 2 accounts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and have now found that
mail to the account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
goes to the account [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is qmail not case sensitive  ?
or is it linux that is doing this ?


Thanks
Jacob





Hi,
The basics of e-mail is that it is not case sensitive.
There is no mail server which works on the SMTP and used on the internet
that is case sensitive .
Linux  may allow you to create users that are case sensitive but an email
user will cannot have case sensitive email ids.
The email will always go to the id with the lower case by default.
So what is happening is a feature of email and nothing to do with qmail or
Linux

Amit Vadehra
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ph- 6419696 Fax : 6479306 Ext:2562
ICQ #: 43481951
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 2:51 PM
Subject: Case Sensitive


>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have qmail working quite satisfactory
> with help from lwq and all of you.
>
> I have now made 2 accounts
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> and have now found that
> mail to the account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> goes to the account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Is qmail not case sensitive  ?
> or is it linux that is doing this ?
>
>
> Thanks
> Jacob
>





Thanks to all of you who advised me how to solve a problem of "former
users"
or rather tons of e-mails still coming on their addresses.
Andrzej



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