qmail Digest 27 Aug 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 741

Topics (messages 29476 through 29524):

.deb installation anyone?
        29476 by: Robert Varga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29477 by: Robert Varga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

2'nd round of questions...
        29478 by: "Luka Gerzic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29483 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29485 by: "Luka Gerzic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Qmail dying
        29479 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29481 by: "Luka Gerzic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29484 by: "Thomas M. Sasala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29486 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29495 by: James Smallacombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29506 by: "Daniluk, Cris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

How do I route email?? smtproute??
        29480 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

rewrite From: header
        29482 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

POP3 Configuration
        29487 by: "Miguel Carvajal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29505 by: "Miguel Carvajal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29518 by: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Problems in Qmail....:(
        29488 by: Martin Paulucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29489 by: Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

/var/spool/mail/$User > ./Maildir
        29490 by: Tim Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29491 by: Tim Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Qmail2 question.
        29492 by: Krzysztof Dabrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29497 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

OpenBSD
        29493 by: "lourens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29494 by: Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29496 by: Lourens Rozema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29500 by: "Aaron L. Meehan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29507 by: Lourens Rozema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29517 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

how to use mess822
        29498 by: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

mail routing on multiple qmail machines
        29499 by: Aj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29501 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ISP Needs Qmail for *thousands* of third-level (foo.bar.com) domains!
        29502 by: Gavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29503 by: Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29504 by: "David Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29519 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John R. Levine)

Can't resolve & clearopensmtp
        29508 by: Martin Paulucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29513 by: Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29514 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29522 by: "Tetsu Ushijima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Quick delivery question
        29509 by: "Pieckiel, Kevin A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29512 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29521 by: Eric Dahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

fastforward
        29510 by: "Michael Boyiazis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29511 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

New daemontools (0.60)
        29515 by: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

mini-announce: imap-devel-4.5-3mdir4
        29516 by: "David Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

User with same name on the same email server
        29520 by: "Samar Vijay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29523 by: Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

okey i'm we are going to move all to qmail, but...
        29524 by: "Luka Gerzic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Sander Wissing wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am sure this is a FAQ, so if there is a FAQ please just point me to
> it, but can anyone point me towards a .deb installation of qmail
> somewhere?

There are several debian packages of qmail-related software.

The latest of them are (all in the unstable (potato) distribution but work
pretty stable):

Mandatory:

qmail-src 1.03-6     Contains the main qmail package source with
                     init.d wrapper, some patches, and so one...
tcpserver-src 0.84-? tcpserver source package. 

Add-on:

rblsmtpd-src ???    RBL extension to tcpserver, qmail works without it.
                    
vchkpw 3.1.2        virtual domain management package... a bit old
                    version, latest source is 3.4.7, and probably need to
                    be modified a bit, since it puts virtual user and
                    domain mail to an inconvenient place, IMHO.
                    (/var/state/vchkpw)

ezmlm-idx-src

and so on and so on... :-)

Installing them:

first of all, you have to have a perl package which provides the
virtual package perl5. The potato version does this, the slink does
NOT. However you can recompile the perl-5.004 suite of perl packages on
slink and install them. This provides perl5. This is needed to install
vchkpw_3.1.2 and qmail_1.03-6 debian packages. (The pre and post install
scripts are in perl, and the package dependency is stated to be perl5, and
dpkg does not allow to install the package until perl5 is provided).

if you are stuck at here, then send me an email, and I send instructions
on how to do this in private email, since it can be considered offtopic.

After this you need to build the binary packages which have -src in the
package name. this can be carried out in many ways, the most common is:

# dpkg -i packagename-src...

# build-packagename

after this you have the binary package you can install.

You first have to install tcpserver afterwards qmail. The rest are
arbitrary.

If you do not use vchkpw then you can enable qmail-pop3d by deleting a few
hashmarks from /etc/init.d/qmail (there are comments there... :-), and add
a stop statement to the stop part which has been forgotten to be put in..
:-)

The statement is:
           start-stop-daemon --user root   --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec 
/usr/bin/tcpserver

All in one line of course.

And to be conforming to the debian policy put in these two lines after the
two similar at the first page of the script:

test -x /usr/sbin/qmail-popup || exit 0
test -x /usr/sbin/qmail-pop3d || exit 0

(This has also been forgotten.)

If you use vchkpw then you do not need to do any of this.

Of course both versions (vchkpw and the base qmail package) has a
checkpassword program which supports shadow passwords.


I beg everyone's pardon who considers debian related qmail answers
offtopic.

Robert Varga





> tcpserver-src 0.84-? tcpserver source package. 

Make that ucspi-tcp :-)

Sorry for the "typo" :)

Robert Varga





Hi all!

There are some problems with my test box, first my ISP is using
sendmail type of mail delivery (/var/spool/mail/username), and yes
i read lwq, but there is little text about realtime changeing mailformat's
between qmail and sendmail, i have around 16.000 user's on my system
and i can just off my sendmail, yet there are more problems, all users
are setup to /bin/true and as i saw there is no chance that qmail
./configure
script solve all problems, just me and my team must do all work about qmail
there are also problems how to setup qmailpop3d to work with
/var/spool/mail/user
and not with /home/user/mail i like to fix all that but there are too little
documentation
about qmailpop3 there are a lot of configuration stuff on qmail itself.
Can anyone help us with seting up qmail and fixing qmailpop3d on our servers
?
also we have 2 standard ip's on each mail service (pop3 (110)  and mail
(25).

btw, sorry for our bad english language.

thanks for fast response Olivier ([EMAIL PROTECTED])






"Luka Gerzic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>There are some problems with my test box, first my ISP is using
>sendmail type of mail delivery (/var/spool/mail/username), and yes
>i read lwq, but there is little text about realtime changeing mailformat's
>between qmail and sendmail,

True. I hope to cover this eventually, but it's a little tricky.

>i have around 16.000 user's on my system
>and i can just off my sendmail, yet there are more problems, all users
>are setup to /bin/true and as i saw there is no chance that qmail
>./configure
>script solve all problems, just me and my team must do all work about qmail

Migrating from sendmail to qmail can be pretty painless if it's done
carefully. For example, don't try to pull the plug on sendmail and
switch to qmail+qmail-pop3d at the same time. Consider configuring the 
qmail installation to use /var/spool/mail mbox delivery, and use the
same POP daemon you're using with sendmail. You can even run both
sendmail and qmail simultaenously--although only one can handle port
25, and /usr/lib/sendmail will only point to one or the other.

>there are also problems how to setup qmailpop3d to work with
>/var/spool/mail/user
>and not with /home/user/mail i like to fix all that but there are too little
>documentation
>about qmailpop3 there are a lot of configuration stuff on qmail itself.

Don't even try. Only use qmail-pop3d if you're using maildir
mailboxes. Otherwise, use whatever POP daemon you're already running.

-Dave




> >there are also problems how to setup qmailpop3d to work with
> >/var/spool/mail/user
> >and not with /home/user/mail i like to fix all that but there are too
little
> >documentation
> >about qmailpop3 there are a lot of configuration stuff on qmail itself.
>
> Don't even try. Only use qmail-pop3d if you're using maildir
> mailboxes. Otherwise, use whatever POP daemon you're already running.

Hi all!

ok, so if i like to use qmail and i realy like to fix it to work at our
place,
i must convert all mbox'es to maildir format (/home/user/mail). ok.. let's
read some document's about that on www.qmail.org .
Just one another thing before i go home, what about users have /bin/true
and procmail (procmail is no such problem if qmail have some statistic's for
users, ehm our finance department like to have how much single user
transfer mail for each moth, and i do it fine with some scripts doing
procmail
and counting /var/spool/mail/username, how and can i do it with qmail ?
if i don't need procmail and qmail do it alone i will delete all and leave
just qmail
and qmail pop3d,  and ... yes.. i like to put qpop3d on another adress let's
say
qmail will be on 127.1.1.100 and qpop3d will be on 127.1.1.101 on same
server
is it possible ?

thank you all and see ya tomorow when i get back to office
Luka





"Fred Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Qmail keeps dying completely, leaving no qmail processes running, or partly 
>dying where the processes look fine, but no mail is sent remotely.

What platform (OS) are you on?

How do you start qmail and qmail-smtpd? Do both go away?

How quickly to they die after a restart?

-Dave





----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Qmail dying


> "Fred Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Qmail keeps dying completely, leaving no qmail processes running, or
partly
> >dying where the processes look fine, but no mail is sent remotely.

you have script to start/stop/restart qmail on :

http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/qmail-script.txt

i think






        Is there an easy way to kill pop3d when it isn't
being 'supervised'?  I've scoured the documentation and
couldn't come up with a good way.  Clearly I'm missing
something.  Thanks.

        -Tom

Luka Gerzic wrote:
> 
> you have script to start/stop/restart qmail on :
> 
> http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/qmail-script.txt
> 
> i think

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+  Thomas M. Sasala, Electrical Engineer       [EMAIL PROTECTED]       +
+  MRJ Technology Solutions                    http://www.mrj.com   +
+  10461 White Granite Drive, Suite 102        (W)(703)277-1714     +
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"Thomas M. Sasala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>       Is there an easy way to kill pop3d when it isn't
>being 'supervised'?  I've scoured the documentation and
>couldn't come up with a good way.  Clearly I'm missing
>something.  Thanks.

If you're running it from inetd, you have to edit inetd.conf (comment
it out) and "kill -HUP" inetd.

-Dave





If you're running it from inetd, you have to comment it out and send inetd
a HUP, just like any other inetd process.  If you're running it from
tcpserver, you need to kill that tcpserver process.

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Thomas M. Sasala wrote:

> 
>       Is there an easy way to kill pop3d when it isn't
> being 'supervised'?  I've scoured the documentation and
> couldn't come up with a good way.  Clearly I'm missing
> something.  Thanks.
> 
>       -Tom
> 
> Luka Gerzic wrote:
> > 
> > you have script to start/stop/restart qmail on :
> > 
> > http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/qmail-script.txt
> > 
> > i think
> 
> -- 
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> +  Thomas M. Sasala, Electrical Engineer       [EMAIL PROTECTED]       +
> +  MRJ Technology Solutions                    http://www.mrj.com   +
> +  10461 White Granite Drive, Suite 102        (W)(703)277-1714     +
> +  Oakton, VA   22124                          (F)(703)277-1702     +
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> 





Title: RE: Qmail dying

File permissions?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Qmail dying
>
>
> Qmail keeps dying completely, leaving no qmail processes
> running, or partly
> dying where the processes look fine, but no mail is sent remotely.
>
> The logs show nothing out of the ordinary, and just stop when
> it stops.
>
> Can someone tell me what steps to take to find out what's
> causing this?
>
> --
> Fred Jones
> IAJ Systems Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
>





<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi I had a spamming problem and there is a host that could not be
>protected so I block all smtp traffic to that server.
>Problem is that the server could not received emails, so I set qmail on
>my serverA so that it will receive emails for serverB.

How? What did you configure on serverA?

>How do I route all emails to that serverB using qmail??
>I already put a MX pointing to serverA to receive email for serverB.
>Is there a way??

If serverB is the highest priority (precedence ?) MX for serverB,
serverA should be trying to forward the messages to serverB all the
time, *if* you set up serverA with serverB in control/rcpthosts but
not control/locals.

In other words: if you set it up right, it's automatic.

-Dave




"x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Send to mail on W/S:  
>
>      From: header = "user-1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>          (on F/S)
>
>  How to  change From: header  into :   "user-1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The best way to do this is to inject messages with the desired From
field. See the qmail-inject man page for various ways to accomplish
that. Your mailer may/should also let you configure the From field.

-Dave




Hi There!,
    I want to Install qmail on a Redhat 6.0 machine. Were can I get FULL documentation on how
to install&configure the qmail-pop3d? I need this document because I'am having trouble with the
qmail-pop3d. The problem is when I send an email from my MSN account to an account on
the qmail-pop3d server and I don't receive it when I check for email on Outlook Express do
you know why this is happening?
 
Thanks in advance,
Miguel Carvajal
 




Hi There!,
    I want to Install qmail on a Redhat 6.0 machine.
Where can I get FULL documentation on how to
install&configure the qmail-pop3d? I need this
document because I'am having trouble with the
qmail-pop3d. The problem is when I send an
email from my MSN account to an account on
the qmail-pop3d server and I don't receive it
when I check for email on Outlook Express do
you know why this is happening?
 
Thanks in advance,
Miguel Carvajal
 






If you installed qmail from rpm, and you also have the qmail-pop3d
initscripts installed, some basic steps to do

1) Install checkpassword.

2) Tell qmail to deliver to maildir at least on the account you want to
check via pop.

3) set up tcprules file for qmail-pop3d.  Like

127.0.0.1:allow
1.2.3.4:allow
5.6.7.8:allow
:deny

where 1.2.3.4 is the server's IP, and 5.6.7.8 is the IP of the location of
the msn account.  (You could set IP ranges, if needed). Do not forget to
create the cdb file!

4)
/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail-pop3d.init

5) telnet to port 110, and do an elementary pop session to see if things are
working well.

6) Test now from the msn account.  If all is well, then

chkconfig --add qmail-pop3d.init

Check out the the FAQ for qmail for more explanation.

If the above does not seem to apply to you, then tell us more about your
setup (if you installed from rpm, and which rpm, if you have initscripts or
not, if you have checkpassword, etc)

Mate




Hi Everyone!,

I'm having some more problems...The first one:
When I send a message to an autoresponder (created by qmailadmin)
I never get the answer and I have this message in the log (syslog):

Aug 26 10:13:46 babel qmail: 935673226.705624 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20
Aug 26 10:14:43 babel qmail: 935673283.706832 starting delivery 626: msg
143607
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 26 10:14:43 babel qmail: 935673283.707130 status: local 1/10 remote
0/20
Aug 26 10:14:43 babel qmail: 935673283.733071 delivery 626: deferral:
AUTORESPON
D:_Unable_to_create_file_for_[[EMAIL PROTECTED]].
Aug 26 10:14:43 babel qmail: 935673283.733302 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the local autoresponder and martin is a sqwebmail
user. Any address I send the mail from gets the same problem, so the
from is not the problem. I think it can't create the file, so it must
not have permissions in the directory where autorespond creates them.
The problem is I can't find where is that, because in var/qmail/alias
I have:
drwxrwsr-x   2 qmaild   qmail        512 Aug 13 10:34 help_autorespond
-rw-r--r--   1 qmaild   qmail        273 Aug 13 10:38 help_message

and:
.qmail-help with this contents:
|/var/qmail/bin/autorespond 10000 5 help_message help_autorespond
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It seems that this .qmail-help is ok and it should be writting to that
dir, isn't it?.

Also, I'm having other problem, after it tries to send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (babel is the localhost), it says:
Aug 26 10:12:17 babel qmail: 935673137.694672 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20
Aug 26 10:13:46 babel qmail: 935673226.702579 starting delivery 625: msg
143531
to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 26 10:13:46 babel qmail: 935673226.703667 status: local 0/10 remote
1/20
Aug 26 10:13:46 babel qmail: 935673226.705434 delivery 625: deferral:
Sorry,_I_c
ouldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name._(#4.1.2)/

And of course, if I do a ping to babel.sintesoft.net it works, my
/etc/resolv.conf is:
domain sintesoft.net
search sintesoft.net clubgames.com.ar
nameserver  200.200.200.1

If I take out domain and search, pinging to babel.sintesoft.net still
works......
It seems is trying to deliver the mail to a remote host and it doesn't
understand is the local host.

My /var/qmail/control files are:
defaultdomain:
sintesoft.net
me:
babel.sintesoft.net
locals:
localhost
sintesoft.net
webmail.sintesoft.net
babel.sintesoft.net

(can I add to locals a *.sintesoft.net line?)

Many thanks!!!.








On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:37:36AM -0300, Martin Paulucci wrote:
> Hi Everyone!,
> 
> I'm having some more problems...The first one:
[snip]
> I have:
> drwxrwsr-x   2 qmaild   qmail        512 Aug 13 10:34 help_autorespond
> -rw-r--r--   1 qmaild   qmail        273 Aug 13 10:38 help_message
> 
> and:
> .qmail-help with this contents:
> |/var/qmail/bin/autorespond 10000 5 help_message help_autorespond
> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> It seems that this .qmail-help is ok and it should be writting to that
> dir, isn't it?.

Nope. The files should be owned by alias, not qmaild.

> Also, I'm having other problem, after it tries to send a message to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (babel is the localhost), it says:
> Aug 26 10:12:17 babel qmail: 935673137.694672 status: local 0/10 remote
> 0/20
> Aug 26 10:13:46 babel qmail: 935673226.702579 starting delivery 625: msg
> 143531
> to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aug 26 10:13:46 babel qmail: 935673226.703667 status: local 0/10 remote
> 1/20
> Aug 26 10:13:46 babel qmail: 935673226.705434 delivery 625: deferral:
> Sorry,_I_c
> ouldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name._(#4.1.2)/
> 
> And of course, if I do a ping to babel.sintesoft.net it works, my
> /etc/resolv.conf is:
> domain sintesoft.net
> search sintesoft.net clubgames.com.ar
> nameserver  200.200.200.1

I can't find babel.sintesoft.net from here, neither can I reach
200.200.200.1

> (can I add to locals a *.sintesoft.net line?)

Leave out the '*'.

Also, remember to kill -HUP the qmail-send process after any change.

Greetz, Peter
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Hey sorry if this is available freely but I couldn't find it.
Following a HD crash, I recovered most of the important stuff but in the 
process I moved from /var/spool/mail/$user to ./Maildir/
My problem now is many users still mail in the /var/spool/mail/$user box 
and I need to move it so they can retrieve it.

I think I saw this on the list previously but cant seem to find it now.
Thanks

Tim Hunter
CIMx Company
1001 Ford Circle
Cincinnati, OH 45150
ph: (513) 248-7700
FX: (513) 248-7711
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cimx.com





Yes it looks like I was up too late again and my eyes were not working
I found what I was looking for, right on the qmail homepage
Thanks

At 10:01 AM 8/26/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey sorry if this is available freely but I couldn't find it.
>Following a HD crash, I recovered most of the important stuff but in the 
>process I moved from /var/spool/mail/$user to ./Maildir/
>My problem now is many users still mail in the /var/spool/mail/$user box 
>and I need to move it so they can retrieve it.
>
>I think I saw this on the list previously but cant seem to find it now.
>Thanks
>
>Tim Hunter
>CIMx Company
>1001 Ford Circle
>Cincinnati, OH 45150
>ph: (513) 248-7700
>FX: (513) 248-7711
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.cimx.com
>





Hello!

I have few question about upcoming Qmail2.

We are planning a big project built around qmail so i realy need to know 
what can i expect in the future.

1. What is the planned release date of qmail2? (or atleast rough estimate)
2. What features will it contain?
3. How different will it be comparing to qmail1.03 ? Will the configuration 
files differ?
4. Is there a web page cointaing some information about it?

It would be nice if Dan could write a bit about it. If he's too busy then 
maybe someone well informed could tell me more.

Krzysztof Dabrowski





Krzysztof Dabrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have few question about upcoming Qmail2.

Don't we all. :-)

>We are planning a big project built around qmail so i realy need to know 
>what can i expect in the future.

Sorry, but there are no promises regarding the future of qmail.

>1. What is the planned release date of qmail2? (or atleast rough estimate)

Sometime in the future, if it happens at all.

>2. What features will it contain?

See link below.

>3. How different will it be comparing to qmail1.03 ? Will the configuration 
>files differ?

I suspect it'll be pretty different. For one thing, there won't be a
distinction in the queue between local and remote deliveries. There
will be new config files, and some existing ones will disappear.

>4. Is there a web page cointaing some information about it?

Yes. See:

    http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#history

>It would be nice if Dan could write a bit about it. If he's too busy then 
>maybe someone well informed could tell me more.

Yes, Dan, a qmail 2 status report would really be appreciated. We were 
expecting some action when the zeroseek list was created, but it never 
materialized.

-Dave




Hello,

I'm trying to compile ucspi-tcp-0.84 and qmail-1.03 on OpenBSD on a alpha
server. But they give both the same error:

./compile cdbmake_hash.c
./compile cdbmake_add.c
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/ucspi-tcp-0.84
alpha#

How can I solve this problem?

Greetz, Lourens ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 03:03:59PM -0000, lourens wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to compile ucspi-tcp-0.84 and qmail-1.03 on OpenBSD on a alpha
> server. But they give both the same error:
> 
> ./compile cdbmake_hash.c
> ./compile cdbmake_add.c
> cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/ucspi-tcp-0.84
> alpha#
> 
> How can I solve this problem?

signal 6 is SIGIOT... sounds like a hardware problem to me. Can you
successfully compile a kernel, or other big things? Small things?

Greetz, Peter
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> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm trying to compile ucspi-tcp-0.84 and qmail-1.03 on OpenBSD on a alpha
> > server. But they give both the same error:
> > 
> > ./compile cdbmake_hash.c
> > ./compile cdbmake_add.c
> > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/src/ucspi-tcp-0.84
> > alpha#
> > 
> > How can I solve this problem?
> 
> signal 6 is SIGIOT... sounds like a hardware problem to me. Can you
> successfully compile a kernel, or other big things? Small things?
> 
mutt-0.95.7i, ssh-1.2.26, bash-2.03, joe-2.8, checkpassword-0.81
These compiled just fine. These are the only problems I've had with
the system yet.

alpha# uname -a
OpenBSD alpha 2.5 GENERIC#63 alpha
alpha# gcc --version
2.8.1

Greetz, Lourens
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| InterNet Noord          | Uptime:  5 days, 3:09
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Quoting Lourens Rozema ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > I'm trying to compile ucspi-tcp-0.84 and qmail-1.03 on OpenBSD on a alpha
> > > server. But they give both the same error:
> > > 
> > > ./compile cdbmake_hash.c
> > > ./compile cdbmake_add.c
> > > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop in /usr/src/ucspi-tcp-0.84
> > > alpha#
> > > 
> > > How can I solve this problem?
> > 
> > signal 6 is SIGIOT... sounds like a hardware problem to me. Can you
> > successfully compile a kernel, or other big things? Small things?
> > 
> mutt-0.95.7i, ssh-1.2.26, bash-2.03, joe-2.8, checkpassword-0.81
> These compiled just fine. These are the only problems I've had with
> the system yet.

If you type "make" immediately after the compile crashes, does it
successfully compile a few more modules then crash again?  That would
be a classic hardware issue--bad RAM or the like (speaking from painful
experience... ).

Aaron




> > > > I'm trying to compile ucspi-tcp-0.84 and qmail-1.03 on OpenBSD on a alpha
> > > > server. But they give both the same error:
> > > > 
> > > > ./compile cdbmake_hash.c
> > > > ./compile cdbmake_add.c
> > > > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6
> > > > *** Error code 1
> > > > 
> > > > Stop in /usr/src/ucspi-tcp-0.84
> > > > alpha#
> > > > 
> > > > How can I solve this problem?
> > > 
> > > signal 6 is SIGIOT... sounds like a hardware problem to me. Can you
> > > successfully compile a kernel, or other big things? Small things?
> > > 
> > mutt-0.95.7i, ssh-1.2.26, bash-2.03, joe-2.8, checkpassword-0.81
> > These compiled just fine. These are the only problems I've had with
> > the system yet.
> 
> If you type "make" immediately after the compile crashes, does it
> successfully compile a few more modules then crash again?  That would
> be a classic hardware issue--bad RAM or the like (speaking from painful
> experience... ).
> 
It start to compile the same file again and then gives the same
error, it gives the same error at the same place for both programs,
qmail and ucspi.

Greetz, Lourens
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this is a compiler problem actually, the compiler does not operate 100% on
the alpha architecture, more specifically, it is the optimization.

edit the 'conf-cc' file in the src dir and remove the '-O2' and it should work
fine

i have not encountered any other problems with the compiler besides this, and
the problem is most likely alpha specific (i386 works fine at least)

#--
#Date: 26 Aug 1999 15:03:59 -0000
#From: "lourens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#Subject: OpenBSD
#
#Hello,
#
#I'm trying to compile ucspi-tcp-0.84 and qmail-1.03 on OpenBSD on a alpha
#server. But they give both the same error:
#
#./compile cdbmake_hash.c
#./compile cdbmake_add.c
#cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6
#*** Error code 1
#
#Stop in /usr/src/ucspi-tcp-0.84
#alpha#
#
#How can I solve this problem?
#
#Greetz, Lourens ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
#--
#
#--------------------------------------------------------------------------
#| Lourens Rozema          | Machine: Linux research 2.0.36 i586
#| InterNet Noord          | Uptime:  5 days, 2:50
#| Tel: 06-25335249        | Load:    0.07, 0.16, 0.11
#| [EMAIL PROTECTED]        | User:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#|-------------------------|-----------------------------------------------
#| PGP: pgp.key.gz         | Website: http://www.noord.nu/
#--------------------------------------------------------------------------




 
    Would you please tell me: How to start ofmipd ( mess822 ) at boot ?
     
I guess similarly to qmail-smtpd.

-- 
---
Mate Wierdl | Dept. of Math. Sciences | University of Memphis  




Hope you like the picture... (took a while)

        Users on the machines i.e:
             aj                 aj2             aj3
            ___________       ___________      ___________
           | SERVER 1  |     |  SERVER 2 |    | SERVER 3  |
           |A.blah.com |     |B.blah.com |    |C.blah.com |
           |___________|     |___________|    |___________|
                |                  |                |
                |                  |                |
                |              ____|______          |
                --------------| MAIL-GW   |----------
                              |gw.blah.com| 
                              |___________|

I have 3 users, all on 3 different servers. I am trying to setup qmail so
when mail is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will automatically be delivered to
A.blah.com by gw.blah.com (A.blah.com will do local deliver
to user aj). Same if I send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will be delieverd by
gw.blah.com to B.blah.com. 

This is how I have my configuration is setup as:
blah.com.       MX 0 gw.blah.com.

A.blah.com (no and ho are similar so not going to list):
  locals:
    A.blah.com
    blah.com
  smtproutes:
    :gw.blah.com

gw.blah.com:
  locals:
    gw.blah.com
    blah.com
  smtproutes:
    blah.com:A.blah.com


.qmail-default  ON A.blah.com
| forward "$LOCAL"@no.blah.com

.qmail-default  ON B.blah.com
| forward "$LOCAL"@C.blah.com

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I tried this setup a week ago and I finally decided to ask for some help,
when I try to send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will return it saying, domain
isnt in rcpthosts or something like that. I do have rulesets for relaying
and I DID add .blah.com (and ip) to it. I know it can't be the rulesets
problem its some other qmail configuration problem dealing with routes...

So why is it doing this? Did I setup everything correctly? 


Thanks.





Aj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hope you like the picture... (took a while)

Very nice.

>I tried this setup a week ago and I finally decided to ask for some help,
>when I try to send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will return it saying, domain
>isnt in rcpthosts or something like that.

OK, so is blah.com in control/rcpthosts on gw? It should be. It should
also be in control/locals.

>I do have rulesets for relaying
>and I DID add .blah.com (and ip) to it.

It's got nothing to do with relaying. If gw.blah.com is supposed to
accept mail for blah.com, you need to tell it that.

You also mentioned:

>I have 3 users, all on 3 different servers. I am trying to setup qmail so
>when mail is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will automatically be delivered to
>A.blah.com by gw.blah.com (A.blah.com will do local deliver
>to user aj). Same if I send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will be delieverd by
>gw.blah.com to B.blah.com. 

This is accomplished by aliases/qmail-users/fastforward on gw.blah.com 
forwarding the messages to the appropriate system.

-Dave




Greetings,

We need to accept incoming mail for thousands of third-level domains (e.g.
foo.bar.com).  Then we need to forward all mail for each third-level domain
to an email address specified by the third-level domain's owner.

Ideas?

Hmmm.  Considering another option, what about a cool Web interface enabling
the domain's owner to access email sent to their domain (e.g. foo.bar.com),
with Qmail on the backend?

Clearly, performance in the presence of thousands and thousands of
third-level domains plays a key role in addition to the usual (e.g. total
bandwidth of all emails).

Cheers,
Gavin




Gavin wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> We need to accept incoming mail for thousands of third-level domains (e.g.
> foo.bar.com).  Then we need to forward all mail for each third-level domain
> to an email address specified by the third-level domain's owner.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Hmmm.  Considering another option, what about a cool Web interface enabling
> the domain's owner to access email sent to their domain (e.g. foo.bar.com),
> with Qmail on the backend?
> 
> Clearly, performance in the presence of thousands and thousands of
> third-level domains plays a key role in addition to the usual (e.g. total
> bandwidth of all emails).

Either qmail-ldap (http://www.nrg4u.com) or fastforward (on DJB's
homepage) is the way to go.

-- 
Andre





Gavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> We need to accept incoming mail for thousands of third-level domains (e.g.
> foo.bar.com).  Then we need to forward all mail for each third-level domain
> to an email address specified by the third-level domain's owner.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Hmmm.  Considering another option, what about a cool Web interface enabling
> the domain's owner to access email sent to their domain (e.g. foo.bar.com),
> with Qmail on the backend?
>
> Clearly, performance in the presence of thousands and thousands of
> third-level domains plays a key role in addition to the usual (e.g. total
> bandwidth of all emails).
>
> Cheers,
> Gavin

Well, to handle thousands of virtual domains (whether third-level or
second-level), you need to make lots of entries in two files control/rcpthosts
and control/virtualdomains. First off, control/virtualdomains can be large
without performance problems because it is only ready by qmail-send on startup
and then cached in memory. The control/rcpthosts is worse because it has to be
checked whenever an e-mail is accepted through SMTP. The solution is to use the
control/morercpthosts file, which is the same format, but is converted to a
quick lookup CDB database named morercpthosts.cdb by the qmail-newmrh program.

That's if you want to assign each virtual domain to a different user and then
split them out from there with a custom program. If you want to throw all the
e-mail at the same user, then use a wildcard entry in virtualdomains and
rcpthosts. See the qmail-send manpage for documentation on the virtualdomains
wildcarding.

 - David Harris
   Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services






>We need to accept incoming mail for thousands of third-level domains (e.g.
>foo.bar.com).  Then we need to forward all mail for each third-level domain
>to an email address specified by the third-level domain's owner.
>
>Ideas?

Go ahead and do it.  There are two or three config files that will
bloat up with thousands of domains.  One is the "virtualdomains" file
that lists the mapping from domain to address, but that's only read
once by qmail-send and held in an internal form, so that's not likely
to be a performance problem.  The SMTP daemon reads the list of
domains to accept from rcpthosts and morercpthosts, but you compile
the latter into a CDB file so that shouldn't be a problem, either.

One way to handle the forwarding addresses would be to make fake
addresses in users/assign, but I'd suggest mapping them all through a
single virtual user, e.g. in virtualdomains:

floob.org:virtual-floob.org

Then make a .qmail-alias-default that uses fastforward to look up the
actual address.  (Remember that dots turn into colons when it looks up
the address.)

CDB is designed so that lookups take constant time regardless of the size
of the database, so at first glance I don't see any reason this shouldn't
work for thousands of virtual domains.

>Hmmm.  Considering another option, what about a cool Web interface enabling
>the domain's owner to access email sent to their domain (e.g. foo.bar.com),
>with Qmail on the backend?

Sounds like a swell idea, shouldn't be very hard to adapt from one of the
existing web mail packages.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail




Hi,

As I posted before I was having trouble with qmail ,that was not
recognizing my own localhost name (babel) in a message sent by crontab
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message, I finally found out, was sent
by:

I don't understand where this takes to send the mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but I can do it from smtp
or webmail without problems...so it recognizes the domain (dns: OK,
smtp:OK, webmail: OK) but when
the crontab fails (also I would like to know why) it sends this message,
I don't know how, and it gives me
the following error:
Aug 26 15:02:22 babel qmail: 935690542.638603 starting delivery 822: msg
143528 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 26 15:02:22 babel qmail: 935690542.640141 status: local 0/10 remote
1/20
Aug 26 15:02:22 babel qmail: 935690542.642189 delivery 822: deferral:
Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name._(#4.1.2)/

Thinking that babel.sintesoft.net is remote...but when I use
babel.sintesoft.net or webmail it takes the mail
as local...my locals file contents are:
localhost
.sintesoft.net

And the message I'm receiving from the Crontab is:

Return-Path: <>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 23779 invoked by alias); 26 Aug 1999 16:50:45 -0000
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 23776 invoked for bounce); 26 Aug 1999 16:50:45 -0000
Date: 26 Aug 1999 16:50:45 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at babel.sintesoft.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, I couldn't find any host named babel.sintesoft.net. (#5.1.2)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 7793 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 1999 17:55:00 -0000
Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:55:00 -0000
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MBOX-Line: From root Tue Aug 24 14:55 GMT 1999
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Output from "cron" command
Content-Type: text

Your "cron" job on babel
/mail/vpopmail/bin/clearopensmtp 2>&1 > /dev/null

produced the following output:

Broken Pipe

-------------------------------------

Any idea how to fix both things?. I think the cron is doing something
wrong....

Many thanks!,

Martin





On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 at 15:30:00 -0300, Martin Paulucci wrote:
> As I posted before I was having trouble with qmail ,that was not
> recognizing my own localhost name (babel) in a message sent by crontab
> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message, I finally found out, was sent
> [...]
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sorry, I couldn't find any host named babel.sintesoft.net. (#5.1.2)

Seems true:

moko:~$ host  babel.sintesoft.net
babel.sintesoft.net does not exist (Authoritative answer)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>As I posted before I was having trouble with qmail ,that was not
>recognizing my own localhost name (babel) in a message sent by crontab
>to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What does qmail-showctl say?

>/mail/vpopmail/bin/clearopensmtp 2>&1 > /dev/null

I think you need to make that:

/mail/vpopmail/bin/clearopensmtp > /dev/null 2>&1

-Dave




Martin Paulucci writes:
> Thinking that babel.sintesoft.net is remote...but when I use
> babel.sintesoft.net or webmail it takes the mail
> as local...my locals file contents are:
> localhost
> .sintesoft.net

The locals control file doesn't support wildcards.
So ``.sintesoft.net'' will be taken literally.

(Don't forget to send a HUP signal to qmail-send after you
change locals.)

-- 
Tetsu Ushijima




Hello,

I have a computer that is running Q-Mail and fetching mail with
fetchmail from a multi-drop box.  Fetchmail is set to fetch every E-Mail
message sent to our multi-drop box and forward them to Q-Mail via SMTP
so that appropriate bounce messages can be generated.

A web site that supports our efforts has a feedback E-Mail address that
is redirected to several people, including an account in our multi-drop
box.  When mail is sent to the aforementioned E-Mail address in the
above paragraph, fetchmail sees the address (which is NOT in our domain
nor does it point to a valid user on our mail server), it redirects it
to postmaster.  I was hoping there would be an easy solution in Q-Mail
that would allow me to trap messages to this specific address and
forward them to the correct account on our mail server rather than have
it go to the postmaster all the time.  
Somehow I don't know that this is best to handle in Q-Mail, but rather
with fetchmail itself, but your input would be appreciated.  Please tell
me what more information you may need in order to offer assistence.

Thanks,

Kevin A. Pieckiel




"Pieckiel, Kevin A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have a computer that is running Q-Mail and fetching mail with
>fetchmail from a multi-drop box.  Fetchmail is set to fetch every E-Mail
>message sent to our multi-drop box and forward them to Q-Mail via SMTP
>so that appropriate bounce messages can be generated.
>
>A web site that supports our efforts has a feedback E-Mail address that
>is redirected to several people, including an account in our multi-drop
>box.  When mail is sent to the aforementioned E-Mail address in the
>above paragraph, fetchmail sees the address (which is NOT in our domain
>nor does it point to a valid user on our mail server), it redirects it
>to postmaster.  I was hoping there would be an easy solution in Q-Mail
>that would allow me to trap messages to this specific address and
>forward them to the correct account on our mail server rather than have
>it go to the postmaster all the time.  

You can catch the foreign domain with a control/virtualdomains entry
and do whatever you want with it.

See:

    http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#virtual-domains

-Dave




Before fetchmail dumps any message to the listening smtp ports, it has
options to completely rewrite both the user and domain part of the
envelop recipient. I don't use multidrop, so can't say for sure, but the
fetchmail options "is" and "smtpdomain" should fix your problem.

- tah eric


"Pieckiel, Kevin A" escribi�:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a computer that is running Q-Mail and fetching mail with
> fetchmail from a multi-drop box.  Fetchmail is set to fetch every E-Mail
> message sent to our multi-drop box and forward them to Q-Mail via SMTP
> so that appropriate bounce messages can be generated.
> 
> A web site that supports our efforts has a feedback E-Mail address that
> is redirected to several people, including an account in our multi-drop
> box.  When mail is sent to the aforementioned E-Mail address in the
> above paragraph, fetchmail sees the address (which is NOT in our domain
> nor does it point to a valid user on our mail server), it redirects it
> to postmaster.  I was hoping there would be an easy solution in Q-Mail
> that would allow me to trap messages to this specific address and
> forward them to the correct account on our mail server rather than have
> it go to the postmaster all the time.
> Somehow I don't know that this is best to handle in Q-Mail, but rather
> with fetchmail itself, but your input would be appreciated.  Please tell
> me what more information you may need in order to offer assistence.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kevin A. Pieckiel

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How would fastforward handle multi 100K - millions of users?
Good idea?  Poor idea?

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"Michael Boyiazis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How would fastforward handle multi 100K - millions of users?
>Good idea?  Poor idea?

Should be OK. fastforward was designed to efficiently handle large
databases. Haven't actually tried it, though.

-Dave





    Somebody know how to change the init script for qmail to use daemontools
    .60, because they way they work changed a lot...and I'm having trouble
    moving from the old one.

Which initscript are you referring to?

Mate





For those of you out there using IMP/Horde for your web based e-mail, here's a
package for you. This package contains the IMAP development libraries which are
used by PHP3 for the IMAP extensions, which are used by IMP/Horde. The INSTALL
file in PHP3 says to get the imap-devel package from Red Hat contrib|net..
problem is it's not there.

Get it at: http://www.davideous.com/imap-maildir/

 - David Harris
   Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services






Our Qmail is serving five different domains from the same server. The
problem is that there is a name
clash across the domains. Thus, their email address is different only by
domain.

Question is: How can we have same name (different domains) in an email
address on the same email server?





On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 at 18:48:35 +0100, Samar Vijay wrote:
> Our Qmail is serving five different domains from the same server. The
> problem is that there is a name
> clash across the domains. Thus, their email address is different only by
> domain.
> 
> Question is: How can we have same name (different domains) in an email
> address on the same email server?

See:  http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#virtual-domains

-- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/   | ones and zeros.




Hi to all!

just another question, we have to move around 16k of
/var/spool/mail/$username's
to /home/$username/mail as qmail and qpop3d reqested. what is the fastest
and most
reliable script? please send us url, so we can start transforming it on test
server

Luka



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