qmail Digest 30 Aug 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 744

Topics (messages 29565 through 29590):

INSTALL.alias
        29565 by: "Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29566 by: Magnus Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29569 by: "Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

huh, again
        29567 by: "Luka Gerzic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is this the way?
        29568 by: "Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29572 by: "David Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Can default configuration handle http://maps.vix.com/tsi/ar-test.html ?
        29570 by: Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29571 by: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

TEST.deliver
        29573 by: "Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

.qmail-news doesn't work????
        29574 by: Sergei Kolobov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29579 by: "Jeff Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

colons->dots in fastforward [was: Re: ISP Needs Qmail for *thousands* of third-level 
(foo.bar.com) domains!]
        29575 by: Peter Gradwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

can't deliver messages
        29576 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

stralloc allocation
        29577 by: Daemeon Reiydelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

qmail as a front end to e.g. Corba
        29578 by: Daemeon Reiydelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Qmail Install stall
        29580 by: "Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

SMTP deliver block...
        29581 by: "Scott D. Yelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29582 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Qmail - deliver locally to users in UNIX groups?
        29583 by: "Simon Elder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

New to Qmail
        29584 by: "Matt Mouser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29585 by: "Peter C. Norton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Qmail delivery errors
        29586 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

how to use my database when qmail to delieve letters to a users??
        29587 by: "Baike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

how to using maildrop
        29588 by: "x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29589 by: "x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

How to unsubscribe from qmail mailin list?
        29590 by: KokWay Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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I am at the INSTALL.alias portion of installing the Qmail.

The following commands used for Postmaster, MAILER-DAEMON and on...

~/alias/.qmail-postmaster
~/alias/Mailbox

Is the ~ for user (/home/username/alias) OR for Qmail (/var/qmail/alias)?

If it is for the user, is it root?

Thank you for any help.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
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On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Subba Rao wrote:

> I am at the INSTALL.alias portion of installing the Qmail.
> 
> The following commands used for Postmaster, MAILER-DAEMON and on...
> 
> ~/alias/.qmail-postmaster
> ~/alias/Mailbox
> 
> Is the ~ for user (/home/username/alias) OR for Qmail (/var/qmail/alias)?
> 
> If it is for the user, is it root?

it's

~alias/.qmail-postmaster
~alias/Mailbox

and ~alias is the same as "the alias users home directory".

This is usually /var/qmail/alias.

/magnus

-- 
"MOST USELESS site of the year 1998" 
  -- http://x42.com/





Thank you very much for the input. I reread the document and got that straight.
Thanks again.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
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On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:09:57 +0200 (CEST), Magnus Bodin wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Subba Rao wrote:
>
>> I am at the INSTALL.alias portion of installing the Qmail.
>> 
>> The following commands used for Postmaster, MAILER-DAEMON and on...
>> 
>> ~/alias/.qmail-postmaster
>> ~/alias/Mailbox
>> 
>> Is the ~ for user (/home/username/alias) OR for Qmail (/var/qmail/alias)?
>> 
>> If it is for the user, is it root?
>
>it's
>
>~alias/.qmail-postmaster
>~alias/Mailbox
>
>and ~alias is the same as "the alias users home directory".
>
>This is usually /var/qmail/alias.
>
>/magnus
>
>-- 
>"MOST USELESS site of the year 1998" 
>  -- http://x42.com/
>
>








----- Original Message -----
From: Olivier M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Luka Gerzic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: huh, again


> On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Luka Gerzic wrote:
> > what's best script/software to make all (about 16k) /var/spool/mail/
mailboxes to qmail
> > maildir format ? is there anychance that someone write program that do
that ? or i must do all
> > by hand ?
>
> Do you know Perl ? :) It should be easy to write a 10 lines script that
parses your /etc/passwd
> file and run the appropriate mbox2maildir command.
>

no i don't know perl or any kind of programing 8(
anyone can help me with this ?





Another question from someone who is making great progress towards Qmail installation.

After following the instructions in INSTALL.mbox, I have the following results and 
questions.

===============================================================
root@caesar:/var/spool/mail# ll
total 10
drwxrwxrwt   2 root     mail         1024 Jul 26 11:12 ./
drwxr-xr-x  15 root     root         1024 Mar 12 14:21 ../
-rw-rw----   1 root     mail         7394 Mar 31 21:42 root
root@caesar:/var/spool/mail# ln -s /var/spool/mail/root ~/Mailbox/root
root@caesar:/var/spool/mail# ll ~/Mailbox
total 4
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Aug 29 07:50 ./
drwx--x---  34 root     root         3072 Aug 29 07:42 ../
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           20 Aug 29 07:50 root -> /var/spool/mail/root
root@caesar:/var/spool/mail# 

===============================================================

Why are the file permissions of the source file and the linked file different here?
Is that the way it is supposed to be?

Thank you in advance.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
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Subba Rao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
[snip]
> Why are the file permissions of the source file and the linked file different
here?
> Is that the way it is supposed to be?

Permissions of links don't matter. They are not used for any access checking.
Some man page should say this somwhere -- stat, access, chmod, etc -- but I
can't seem to find it now.

 - David Harris
   Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services






        Hello all,

Is the default configuration able to handle those relaying test
from http://maps.vix.com/tsi/ar-test.html ? Does someone know if
those tests are sufficient to determine that a given host is
protected against relaying ?

If not, is there some kind of hint what the minimal changes
whould be so qmail can handle those tests ?

thanks in advice,
        Markus

-- 
Speaking mutt/vim/slrn/screen/perl/html/php/perl/sgml/bash/eperl.




Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is the default configuration able to handle those relaying test from
> http://maps.vix.com/tsi/ar-test.html?

Yes.

> Does someone know if those tests are sufficient to determine that a
> given host is protected against relaying?

At this point, relaying is now a bug.  Like any other bug, it's always
possible that there's some new way to exploit it that people haven't
thought of yet, so it's nearly impossible to *prove* that a host is
protected against it.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])         <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




I am at the point of testing my Qmail.

After executing the step 9. in INSTALL, I read through
the instructions in TEST.deliver.

The syslog does have an "status" entry for qmail.
However the processes listing shows only
        qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox

There are no
        qmail-rspawn
        qmail-clean
        splogger

The is the "rc" file from /var/qmail directory
==========================================
#!/bin/sh

# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default.

exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail
==========================================

I did not make any changes to this file.

How can I get qmail testing to work? What did I miss?
I followed all the instructions in INSTALL* docs.

Thanks for any help.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
______________________________________________________________






Dmitry Niqiforoff wrote:
>   I've been trying to bounce messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it doesn't work :( I just copied my
> .qmail-postmaster into .qmail-news, with "&root" inside, killall
> -HUP qmail-send and sent a message to postmaster and to news.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] works just fine, News - doesn't. There is
> "Mailbox" file appears in /var/spool/news instead. I even tried to
> completely restart qmail - the same effect.
>   What I did wrong?

It looks like you have a user called 'news' and that overrides
your ~alias/.qmail-news. Either a) put .qmail in ~news or b) use
users/assign (man qmail-users).

Sergei




Dmitry,
  In INSTALL.alias, the docs say that mail is never delivered to root
by qmail.  You might read the fine print to see if it will do what
you want or what you might do instead.

HTH,
   Jeff

Quoting Dmitry Niqiforoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello!
> 
>   I've been trying to bounce messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it doesn't work :( I just copied my
> .qmail-postmaster into .qmail-news, with "&root" inside, killall
> -HUP qmail-send and sent a message to postmaster and to news.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] works just fine, News - doesn't. There is
> "Mailbox" file appears in /var/spool/news instead. I even tried to
> completely restart qmail - the same effect.
>   What I did wrong?
> 
> --
> ________________________________________________________
>   Regards, Dmitry Niqiforoff      [tel. +7 8462 427427]
>   Kraft-S, Ltd.
>   Samara, Russia
> 
> 
> 
> 




At 5:44 pm -0400 26/8/99,the wonderful John R. Levine wrote:
>
>
>Then make a .qmail-alias-default that uses fastforward to look up the
>actual address.  (Remember that dots turn into colons when it looks up
>the address.)
>

- do you need to turn dots into colons for /etc/aliases with fast forward?

I have it working without the conversion...

peter


-- 
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gradwell dot com Ltd. Enabling the internet you don't see.

** Cheap and easy ecommerce: http://www.gradwell.net/ **






hi all,

I just installed Qmail on a FreeBSD 2.2.1 box here, and when sending mail
to any address on the system I get a message back saying
"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)"


any ideas anyone??

thanks in advance
Bernie

Bernie Courtney
Z100 Radio Engineering
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Yeah, base of 30 then >>3, etc. It may be that, because most of the
systems I work on were IO bound then had solid state disks added, that
revisiting the calls to malloc made sense. I arbitrarily changed the
algorithm a bit to base=128, then >>2 plus n on subsequent allocations.
It was mostly in the mail headers and return paths that I saw repeated
malloc calls. The changed algorithm cut malloc calls by about 10% as I
recall. 10% isn't a big deal, but if you are now processor bound (with
prestoserv or solid state devices ...).


Russell Nelson wrote:
> 
> Daemeon Reiydelle writes:
>  > While on the subject of stralloc'ed structures: have you thought of
>  > setting them to a fairly large value (e.g. 256 or 512 or the requeste
>  > value, whichever is larger) when allocated?
> 
> 30.
> 
> --
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!

-- 
Daemeon Reiydelle
Systems Engineer, Anthropomorphics Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Has any one modified Qmail (or any other MTA) so it does final delivery
via Corba, Talarian, or Technicron?

I would be interested in comparing notes.

-- 
Daemeon Reiydelle
Systems Engineer, Anthropomorphics Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




I am ready to test my Qmail but the documentation
and the results do not match.

After executing the step 9. in INSTALL, I read through
the instructions in TEST.deliver.

The syslog does have an "status" entry for qmail.
However the processes listing shows only
        qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox

The following processes, do not show up for the PS command.
        qmail-rspawn
        qmail-clean
        splogger

This is the "rc" file from /var/qmail directory. I executed this file
as user "root".
==========================================
#!/bin/sh

# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default.

exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail
==========================================

I did not make any changes to this file.

How can I get qmail testing to work? What did I miss?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
______________________________________________________________








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I'd like mail to a <user@domain> to be denied at the SMTP dialogue with
qmail.  Is this possible -- if so, how is it done?

Scott


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Scott D. Yelich writes:
 > I'd like mail to a <user@domain> to be denied at the SMTP dialogue with
 > qmail.  Is this possible -- if so, how is it done?

You'd need a qmail-queue wrapper.  I'd need to get back to working on
mine.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Hi everyone.
 
I've had a scan through the FAQ and mailing list etc and havent found the answer to this one.
 
I would like to get qmail to only deliver locally to a user if they are a member of a certain UNIX group eg (mailusers) etc. This would be really nice as I am doing my user authentication through NIS across a couple of different servers ( web , mail . radius) etc etc.
 
Radius has a nice feature that allows only users of a specified group to be authenticated. Any way of getting qmail to bounce back a "No Such Mailbox" message if the local user is not a member of a specific group??
 
 
Simon Elder
Systems Administrator
Posnet Australia.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---------------------------------------------------------
Tel:  +61 2 8396 1006          Level 2, 71 Balfour St
Fax: +61  8396 1099            Chippendale, NSW Australia 2008




Hi,

I am new to QMail and had a fe questions before I started to research how to
configure it. I want to see if it's even suitable for the job first. First
Question, how large is a standard binary for linux? Can it be stripped down?
The reason I ask is because I use a very minimal linux distro designed just
for networking so it's very quick and small and runs completely out of ram.
As will any package I put on it.  Next Question, will qmail handle multiple
vhost pop accounts. I kknow nothing about mailservers but I want to make
sure that this server allows me to have virtual domains with accounts from
each one. Like for ex: Say a vhost is somthing.com. I want that user to be
able to login in to pop3.something.com with whatever the username (If the
address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] then he logs in webmaster) and be able to
check his/her mail. I want Qmail to not have to use a seperate unix user
account for each pop account cause then I can't have more than one webmaster
login, etc... This would be a problem. Thanks and sorry if these answers
were asked earlier.

Matt





On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 09:33:02PM -0700, Matt Mouser wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am new to QMail and had a fe questions before I started to research how to
> configure it. I want to see if it's even suitable for the job first. First
> Question, how large is a standard binary for linux? Can it be stripped down?
> The reason I ask is because I use a very minimal linux distro designed just
> for networking so it's very quick and small and runs completely out of ram.
> As will any package I put on it.  

Here's the breakdown of the size of qmail on a redhat 5.2 system (glibc2.0):

[spacey@uptime src]# sudo du -sk /var/qmail/*
15       /var/qmail/alias
674      /var/qmail/bin
11       /var/qmail/boot
9        /var/qmail/control
12       /var/qmail/defaultdelivery
323      /var/qmail/man
208      /var/qmail/queue
1        /var/qmail/users

You can do without the man pages if you're willing to store them elsewhere
for your own reference (i.e. if your users won't chew you out for it).

> Next Question, will qmail handle multiple
> vhost pop accounts. I kknow nothing about mailservers but I want to make
> sure that this server allows me to have virtual domains with accounts from
> each one. Like for ex: Say a vhost is somthing.com. I want that user to be
> able to login in to pop3.something.com with whatever the username (If the
> address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] then he logs in webmaster) and be able to
> check his/her mail. I want Qmail to not have to use a seperate unix user
> account for each pop account cause then I can't have more than one webmaster
> login, etc... This would be a problem. Thanks and sorry if these answers
> were asked earlier.

This is a basic feature of qmail.  The management of it is commonly handled
by something like http://www.inter7.com/vchkpw. 

-- 
The 5 year plan:
In five years we'll make up another plan.
Or just re-use this one.






hi all,

I just installed Qmail on a FreeBSD 2.2.1 box here, and when sending mail
to any address on the system I get a message back saying
"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)"
I'm thinking that I must have missed a step here somewhere...I also don't
see a Mailbox file in any of the user home directory's either...and hell
while I am at it- I also need to install the POP3 service for Qmail- am I
correct in thinking that all I must do is install the checkpassword
package?


thanks in advance,
Bernie

Bernie Courtney
Z100/WHTZ-FM New York Radio Engineering
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Hi:
   please help me!
   how to tell qmail that the user  is in a database,then to delieve his(her) letter to /var/spool/mail/$USER.how to use qmail-POP3d get the letter?(it as a rule use Mailbox or Maildir)
   thanks!!




hi, all
 
   I have two questions:
 
1. How to running maildrop at boot ( my system: redhat v6.0 ) ?
 
2. How to using filtering language by maildrop to get the "personal name" of To: header ?
 
     Example:
               To: "personal name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
xww
 




hi, all
 
   I have two questions:
 
1. How to running maildrop at boot ( my system: redhat v6.0 ) ?
 
2. How to using filtering language by maildrop to get the "personal name" of To: header ?
 
     Example:
               To: "personal name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
xww
 




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