qmail Digest 31 Aug 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 745

Topics (messages 29591 through 29639):

Is this the way?
        29591 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

TEST.deliver
        29592 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29596 by: "Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29598 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

POP3 users
        29593 by: Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29595 by: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29607 by: Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29608 by: Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29609 by: "David Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

SIGHUP and qmail-send
        29594 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ezmlm+idx in italian !!
        29597 by: Dimitri SZAJMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29604 by: Peter Gradwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ISP Needs Qmail for *thousands* of third-level (foo.bar.com) domains!
        29599 by: Jose Luis Painceira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Very strange error Lotus SMTP taking to qmail
        29600 by: "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Virtual Domains?
        29601 by: Derek Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

a bug?
        29602 by: Marcin Jaskowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29603 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29618 by: "Einar Bordewich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

another?
        29605 by: Marcin Jaskowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Some SRPMS
        29606 by: Mirko Zeibig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wildcards in fastforward?
        29610 by: Aj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
        29611 by: "Ari Arantes Filho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29613 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29614 by: "Ari Arantes Filho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29615 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29619 by: "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29622 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29623 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29624 by: Jedi/Sector One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29625 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29626 by: "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29630 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29631 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29632 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29633 by: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29636 by: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

rblsmtp and more than 1 domain?
        29612 by: "Einar Bordewich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29637 by: Anand Buddhdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

User variable
        29616 by: Sal Conigliaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

tcpserver and rejection logging .
        29617 by: "Soffen, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29621 by: "Racer X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

bogus DNS domain
        29620 by: "Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I need to speak to you
        29627 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Welcome to <#l#>@domain list ?!
        29628 by: Dimitri SZAJMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29629 by: "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

email postage
        29634 by: "Racer X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29635 by: "James J. Lippard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Compile Problem
        29638 by: Tomas Gustafsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        29639 by: "Jay D. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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"Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>root@caesar:/var/spool/mail# ln -s /var/spool/mail/root ~/Mailbox/root

qmail doesn't deliver to root.

See:

    http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#root-delivery

-Dave




"Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The syslog does have an "status" entry for qmail.
>However the processes listing shows only
>       qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
>
>There are no
>       qmail-rspawn
>       qmail-clean
>       splogger

What OS are you using? What "ps" command did you use?

See:

    http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#processes

-Dave




Thank you very much for replying. When I use the
"ps -waux" options, I do see the processes.

Yesterday, late in the evening, I tried to test sending
local mail between 2 local users. This was the following
command.

$ mail user2 < .profile

It went into sendmailq. The "mailq" command lists it as
a sendmail job.

If all the daemons are up and running, then why didn't
the mail get delivered to user2?

Thank you once again.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
______________________________________________________________

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:05:26 -0400 (EDT), Dave Sill wrote:

>"Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>The syslog does have an "status" entry for qmail.
>>However the processes listing shows only
>>      qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
>>
>>There are no
>>      qmail-rspawn
>>      qmail-clean
>>      splogger
>
>What OS are you using? What "ps" command did you use?
>
>See:
>
>    http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#processes
>
>-Dave
>







"Subba Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thank you very much for replying. When I use the
>"ps -waux" options, I do see the processes.

You're welcome. Glad that helped.

>$ mail user2 < .profile
>
>It went into sendmailq. The "mailq" command lists it as
>a sendmail job.
>
>If all the daemons are up and running, then why didn't
>the mail get delivered to user2?

Because /usr/lib/sendmail and/or /usr/sbin/sendmail still point(s) to
Sendmail, not /var/qmail/bin/sendmail. Do:

    mv /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail.old            # ignore errors
    mv /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail.old          # ignore errors
    chmod 0 /usr/lib/sendmail.old /usr/sbin/sendmail.old  # ignore errors
    ln -s /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/lib
    ln -s /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/sbin

-Dave





Hi all ,


How do I set up maildir delivery for user who wants to read mail via POP ?

thx,

__________________________________________________________________________
Sergio Henrique O. Pereira                            Analista de Sistemas
AInfo - Univ. Mogi da Cruzes/OMEC                                  e Redes
Fone: +55 011 4798.7042   
Fax : +55 011 4798.7261 
Linux User #105720                                           ICQ : 3428356





Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>How do I set up maildir delivery for user who wants to read mail via POP ?

See:

    http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#dot-qmail-files

-Dave




On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 at  9:44:56 -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
> Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >How do I set up maildir delivery for user who wants to read mail via POP ?
> 
> See:
> 
>     http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#dot-qmail-files
> 

I've understood Sergio's question other way... I may be wrong but maybe he
wondered which POP servers can serve mail from Maildir format.

If so:
included in qmail is "qmail-pop3d". I don't remember if some other servers
understand Maildir. 
You may want to search the list archives:
http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/

-- 
 Tomasz Papszun   SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland  | And it's only
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/   | ones and zeros.





Ok ... I get solve my problem . . .

I put in my /etc/inetd.conf  the line "pop3 stream  tcp     nowait  root
...etc"  but ...  my /etc/services was .."pop-3 110/tcp" 

thanks everybody
 

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Tomasz Papszun wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 at  9:44:56 -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
> > Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >How do I set up maildir delivery for user who wants to read mail via POP ?
> > 
> > See:
> > 
> >     http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#dot-qmail-files
> > 
> 
> I've understood Sergio's question other way... I may be wrong but maybe he
> wondered which POP servers can serve mail from Maildir format.
> 
> If so:
> included in qmail is "qmail-pop3d". I don't remember if some other servers
> understand Maildir. 
> You may want to search the list archives:
> http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/
> 
> -- 
>  Tomasz Papszun   SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland  | And it's only
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/   | ones and zeros.
> 

__________________________________________________________________________
Sergio Henrique O. Pereira                            Analista de Sistemas
AInfo - Univ. Mogi da Cruzes/OMEC                                  e Redes
Fone: +55 011 4798.7042   
Fax : +55 011 4798.7261 
Linux User #105720                                           ICQ : 3428356






Tomasz Papszun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I've understood Sergio's question other way... I may be wrong but maybe he
> wondered which POP servers can serve mail from Maildir format.
>
> If so:
> included in qmail is "qmail-pop3d". I don't remember if some other servers
> understand Maildir. 
> You may want to search the list archives:
> http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/

Don't forget http://www.davideous.com/imap-maildir/

Even though it's an IMAP server it serves POP3, too.

 - David Harris
   Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services






On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 02:07:09PM -0400, Johnson , William (Contractor) wrote:

It re-reads the control/locals and control/virtualdomains files. No
daemons are killed.

>    What exactly happens when qmail-send is sent a SIGHUP? Does it force
>    the sub-daemons to quit and reload themselves?
>    
>    Bill

-- 
See complete headers for more info




Hi,

I just installed ezmlm-idx. I did evrything in the 'INSTALL.idx' and the
'make fr' in order to get french messages. But I get italians msg !
I did a 'make clean; make; make man; make fr' then I did 'rm -rf DIR' and
'rm -rf /home/user/.qm*' and I recreated a list with ezmlm-make and msg in
DIR/text/ are still in italian !

Why ?

Thank you !




At 4:18 pm +0200 30/8/99,the wonderful Dimitri SZAJMAN wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just installed ezmlm-idx. I did evrything in the 'INSTALL.idx' and the
>'make fr' in order to get french messages. But I get italians msg !
>I did a 'make clean; make; make man; make fr' then I did 'rm -rf DIR' and
>'rm -rf /home/user/.qm*' and I recreated a list with ezmlm-make and msg in
>DIR/text/ are still in italian !
>
>Why ?
>

from the ezmlm list:

>Cause:
>
> To add the ezmlmrc.it file with target "it" I changed the default
> target to "itall". The problem is that "it" is a dependency of
>"setup:". Thus, "make setup" will copy ezmlmrc.it to ezmlmrc. I did
> testing in the build dir or via rpm so didn't see this.
>
> Fix:
>
> There are several options:
> 1. learn Italian
> 2. after make setup, do cp ezmlmrc.en_US /usr/local/bin/ezmlm/ezmlmrc
> [or wherever your ezmlm binaries live].
> 3. Apply the patch below, then "make en_US; make setup". The make en_US
> is not needed if you haven't previously "make setup". If you made
> Italian lists, remove DIR/text/* and do ezmlm-make -+ DIR.

[..]

>This patch is also available as
>ftp://ftp.id.wustl.edu/pub/patches/Makefile-0.323.diff


hth
peter


-- 
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gradwell dot com Ltd. Enabling the internet you don't see.

** Cheap and easy ecommerce: http://www.gradwell.net/ **




On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 05:44:20PM -0400, John R. Levine wrote:

> >We need to accept incoming mail for thousands of third-level domains (e.g.
> >foo.bar.com).  Then we need to forward all mail for each third-level domain
> >to an email address specified by the third-level domain's owner.

[...]

> >Hmmm.  Considering another option, what about a cool Web interface enabling
> >the domain's owner to access email sent to their domain (e.g. foo.bar.com),
> >with Qmail on the backend?

I would suggest to take a look at hypermart.net, they are using qmail
to manage their massive virtual domains since about a year.

-- 
Regards,
Jose Luis Painceira




Can anybody explain this? I don't know what's going on at the receiving
MTA (i.e. the host name it thinks its talking to is not present
anywhere in the dialog) and I don't understand why this is seen by
qmail as as temporary error (which is good as such) when the smtp code
appears to be 500:

   1      2.10  Connected to 164.53.88.23 but my name was
rejected./Remote host said: 500 Session already established. The domain
name [yankees.cybercon.com] passed in with HELO will be ignored. The
current domain name of sending SMTP is [lbmail4.listbot.com]./
   1      1.54  Connected to 164.53.88.23 but my name was
rejected./Remote host said: 500 Session already established. The domain
name [yankees.cybercon.com] passed in with HELO will be ignored. The
current domain name of sending SMTP is [mail.daytimer.com.au]./
   1      1.77  Connected to 164.53.88.23 but my name was
rejected./Remote host said: 500 Session already established. The domain
name [yankees.cybercon.com] passed in with HELO will be ignored. The
current domain name of sending SMTP is [mail6.motleyfool.com]./
[...]

the matchup output for the last one of these:
d z 935816175.638526 935836917.492611 935836919.267045 22558
<xxxxxxxx-return-5-@
lists.bestnet.net-@[]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9485 501
Connected_
to_164.53.88.23_but_my_name_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:_500_Session_
already_
established._The_domain_name_[yankees.cybercon.com]_passed_in_with_HELO_
will_be_
ignored._The_current_domain_name_of_sending_SMTP_is_[mail6.motleyfool.co
m]./

[xxxxxx = list name, yyyyyy = recipient local name]

telnet to 164.53.88.23 smtp:

220 smtpnag01.national.com.au Lotus SMTP MTA Service Ready
helo dimwhit
250 smtpnag01.national.com.au

Thanks for any insights!

-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)






I need away to have two virtual domains that deliver to the same email
account.  For example,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], both deliver to
the same pop account, and are picked up with derek%foo.com.

Thanks
Derek  





Hi,

I've just installed qmail on my system and i have little trouble with
aliases...
When i use alias like marc ir johndoe everything is ok (.qmail-johndoe),
but when i'm trying to set marcin.jaskowiak alias the system (log)
response that there is no such user (.qmail-marcin.jaskowiak).
Anyone has done such a things? 

Thanks,
Marcin Jaskowiak






Marcin Jaskowiak writes:
 > Hi,
 > 
 > I've just installed qmail on my system and i have little trouble with
 > aliases...
 > When i use alias like marc ir johndoe everything is ok (.qmail-johndoe),
 > but when i'm trying to set marcin.jaskowiak alias the system (log)
 > response that there is no such user (.qmail-marcin.jaskowiak).
 > Anyone has done such a things? 

Yes, and it *never* works.  See FAQ 4.6, or else run
http://www.qmail.org/qmail-lint-0.53 .

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Try .qmail-marc:jaskowiak
 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Marcin Jaskowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 30. august 1999 17:46
Subject: a bug?


> Hi,
> 
> I've just installed qmail on my system and i have little trouble with
> aliases...
> When i use alias like marc ir johndoe everything is ok (.qmail-johndoe),
> but when i'm trying to set marcin.jaskowiak alias the system (log)
> response that there is no such user (.qmail-marcin.jaskowiak).
> Anyone has done such a things? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcin Jaskowiak
> 
> 
> 






Hello.

Does anyone know a way to deny fake domains from delivery?
e.g.:

telnet somehost 25
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: angel
data
die
.

It's kind of spam-friendly... anyone?

Sincerely,
Marcin Jaskowiak







Hello everybody,
I just have setup some source-rpms for:
- checkpassword with the open-smtp Patch by Russel and my somewhat improved
  scripts 
- fastforward which comes with a .qmail-default and a "standard"
  /etc/aliases-file.

You will find them at http://www.webideal.de/qmail/

Regards
Mirko




I have two machines, A.server.com and B.server.com.

A.server.com has fastforward and forwards all email to b.server.com.
(a.server.com is a mail gateway in this case)

i have a mailling list on b.server.com, i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
billing is the listname

since A is the gateway, mail sent to info-billing goes to A.server first,
andn then forwards appropriately. now it doesnt work... i get a bounce
back saying the user doesnt exist. 

in my alias i got:
info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

if i send [EMAIL PROTECTED] this will not work. any
ideas on how i can fix it? can i specific info*: [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

thanks.





Hi,

When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user, the
hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that:

-------------------------------------------------

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at XXXXXXXX.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
slslsl:domain.com:domain.com

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

----------------------------------------------------

Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines?

Best regards,

Ari







Ari Arantes Filho writes:
 > When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user, the
 > hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that:

 > Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines?

Sure it's possible.  Anything is possible -- that's why we have
computers.  The question is whether it's desirable.  Basically, if you
don't bounce the whole email back to the user, how are they to re-send
it to the right address?  An MTA can't count on them having kept a
copy.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice
the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the
message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address.


-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Segunda-feira, 30 de Agosto de 1999 15:33
Subject: Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?


>Ari Arantes Filho writes:
> > When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user,
the
> > hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that:
>
> > Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few
lines?
>
>Sure it's possible.  Anything is possible -- that's why we have
>computers.  The question is whether it's desirable.  Basically, if you
>don't bounce the whole email back to the user, how are they to re-send
>it to the right address?  An MTA can't count on them having kept a
>copy.
>
>--
>-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
>Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
>521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
>Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them.
Homeschool!





Ari Arantes Filho writes:
 > Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice
 > the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the
 > message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address.

I don't know about that.  When I hit Alt-R in XEmacs's VM facility, I
get the message in a message-send buffer, ready to be edited and
re-sent.  Perhaps other MUA software isn't as good, but that's
something the users of the MUA could ask the author of the MUA to fix.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:41:02 -0300, Ari Arantes Filho wrote:

>Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice
>the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the
>message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address.

ftp://ftp.id.wustl.edu/pub/patches/qmail-mime.tar.gz

It changes the bounce to include the bounced message as an attachment
instead of just copying it into the message. A must (IMHO) for qmail
use in domains that use character sets other than us-ascii (or God
forbid base64 encoding).

To see what it looks like, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)






Russell Nelson writes:

> Ari Arantes Filho writes:
>  > When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user, the
>  > hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that:
> 
>  > Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines?
> 
> Sure it's possible.  Anything is possible -- that's why we have
> computers.  The question is whether it's desirable.  Basically, if you
> don't bounce the whole email back to the user, how are they to re-send
> it to the right address?  An MTA can't count on them having kept a
> copy.

That may be true in general case, but with Qmail it's a moot point since
Qmail's bounces are not MIME DSNs, and the mail client has no way to
conveniently resend the message.  All tyou'll see is a huge wad of binary
goo.

-- 
Sam





Ari Arantes Filho writes:

> Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice
> the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the
> message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address.

Your best bet is to simply add the appropriate code to Qmail, or use a mail
script of some sorts to reformat the bounce into a MIME message that mail
clients can conveniently resend.

I'm surprised that nobody has yet written a Perl script to rewrite Qmail's
bounces as DSNs.

-- 
Sam





Ari Arantes Filho wrote:
> Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines?

  Yes, here is a patch that does the job. It defaults to bounce 50k of
text max, but you can change that limit in a control/bouncemaxbytes
file.

  Best regards,
             -Jedi.
-- 
         Frank DENIS aka Jedi/Sector One aka DJ Chrysalis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                -> Software : http://www.jedi.claranet.fr <-
                 -> Music : http://www.mp3.com/chrysalis <-
diff -u ../qmail-1.03/qmail-send.c ./qmail-send.c
--- ../qmail-1.03/qmail-send.c  Mon Jun 15 12:53:16 1998
+++ ./qmail-send.c      Wed Jun 24 20:06:29 1998
@@ -44,6 +44,8 @@
 
 int lifetime = 604800;
 
+int bouncemaxbytes = 50000;
+
 stralloc percenthack = {0};
 struct constmap mappercenthack;
 stralloc locals = {0};
@@ -740,9 +742,17 @@
      qmail_fail(&qqt);
    else
     {
+     int bytestogo = bouncemaxbytes;
+     int bytestoget = (bytestogo < sizeof buf) ? bytestogo : sizeof buf;
      substdio_fdbuf(&ssread,read,fd,inbuf,sizeof(inbuf));
-     while ((r = substdio_get(&ssread,buf,sizeof(buf))) > 0)
+     while (bytestoget > 0 && (r = substdio_get(&ssread,buf,bytestoget)) > 0) {
        qmail_put(&qqt,buf,r);
+       bytestogo -= bytestoget;
+       bytestoget = (bytestogo < sizeof buf) ? bytestogo : sizeof buf;
+     }
+     if (r > 0) {
+       qmail_puts(&qqt,"\n\n--- End of message stripped.\n");
+     }
      close(fd);
      if (r == -1)
        qmail_fail(&qqt);
@@ -1442,6 +1452,7 @@
 /* this file is too long ---------------------------------------------- MAIN */
 
 int getcontrols() { if (control_init() == -1) return 0;
+ if (control_readint(&bouncemaxbytes,"control/bouncemaxbytes") == -1) return 0;   
  if (control_readint(&lifetime,"control/queuelifetime") == -1) return 0;
  if (control_readint(&concurrency[0],"control/concurrencylocal") == -1) return 0;
  if (control_readint(&concurrency[1],"control/concurrencyremote") == -1) return 0;




Russell Nelson writes:


> I don't know about that.  When I hit Alt-R in XEmacs's VM facility, I
> get the message in a message-send buffer, ready to be edited and
> re-sent.  Perhaps other MUA software isn't as good, but that's
> something the users of the MUA could ask the author of the MUA to fix.

Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs don't. 
I don't think the MUAs' authors will consider as a defect their software's
inability to parse a bounce format that's specific to Qmail only.






On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:14:48 GMT, Sam wrote:

>Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs don't. 
>I don't think the MUAs' authors will consider as a defect their software's
>inability to parse a bounce format that's specific to Qmail only.

I doubt they find it a defect to be unable to parse DSN.

With the qmail-mime patch, it's trivial to resend the message without
any MUA support since it is a message/rfc822 attachment to the bounce.
DSN may not return the entire message, SQBMF always does
(ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/proto/qsbmf.txt).

-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)






Sam writes:
 > That may be true in general case, but with Qmail it's a moot point since
 > Qmail's bounces are not MIME DSNs, and the mail client has no way to
 > conveniently resend the message.  All tyou'll see is a huge wad of binary
 > goo.

Sorry, Sam, but you're quite wrong.  How much more convenient can it
be than to hit one key: Alt-R?  All that the client has to do is
recognize a QSBMF, then insert the message into its sending buffer.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Sam writes:
 > Russell Nelson writes:
 > > I don't know about that.  When I hit Alt-R in XEmacs's VM facility, I
 > > get the message in a message-send buffer, ready to be edited and
 > > re-sent.  Perhaps other MUA software isn't as good, but that's
 > > something the users of the MUA could ask the author of the MUA to fix.
 > 
 > Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs don't. 
 > I don't think the MUAs' authors will consider as a defect their software's
 > inability to parse a bounce format that's specific to Qmail only.

Of course it's a defect, because *every* MTA has its own peculiar
bounce format.  There is no standard for bounce messages -- not one
that's followed anyway -- so any usable retry mechanism has to
understand many formats.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Russell Nelson writes:

> Sam writes:
>  > That may be true in general case, but with Qmail it's a moot point since
>  > Qmail's bounces are not MIME DSNs, and the mail client has no way to
>  > conveniently resend the message.  All tyou'll see is a huge wad of binary
>  > goo.
> 
> Sorry, Sam, but you're quite wrong.  How much more convenient can it
> be than to hit one key: Alt-R?  All that the client has to do is
> recognize a QSBMF, then insert the message into its sending buffer.

All the client has to do is to recognize a bounce format that is not
defined by any RFC, and that is used by at most 10-15% of mail servers out
there.

Until Qmail gets more traction, do not expect to see a lot of clients being
able to parse Qmail's bounces.

-- 
Sam




Russell Nelson writes:


>  > Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs don't. 
>  > I don't think the MUAs' authors will consider as a defect their software's
>  > inability to parse a bounce format that's specific to Qmail only.
> 
> Of course it's a defect, because *every* MTA has its own peculiar
> bounce format.

No, not every.  There has to be at least a dozen MTAs that generate MIME
DSN bounces.

I'd say that it's a pretty safe bet that any MTAs that will be written in
the future are far more likely to be written to generate MIME DSN bounces
as opposed to Qmail-style bounces.

An RFC 1894-aware mail client will be capable of handling bounces from any
one of those MTAs.

>                There is no standard for bounce messages -- not one

Yes there is: RFC 1894.





Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russell Nelson writes:

>> I don't know about that.  When I hit Alt-R in XEmacs's VM facility, I
>> get the message in a message-send buffer, ready to be edited and
>> re-sent.  Perhaps other MUA software isn't as good, but that's
>> something the users of the MUA could ask the author of the MUA to fix.

> Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs
> don't.

Gnus does for this purpose and has for longer than qmail has existed.
It's method of last resort for finding the actual message inside a bounce
is to search forward for Return-Path:, which conveniently happens to
always be the first header of the encapsulated message.  Works quite well
for a lot of different weird bounce formats.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])         <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




How do I configure rblsmtpd to check against more than ex. rbl.maps.vix.com?
Do I have to run it over and over again ;)
like this?
 supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd \
            tcpserver -v -c40 -x /etc/qmail-smtpd.cdb -u1000 -g1000 0 25 \
            rblsmtpd -b -R rblsmtpd -b -R -rdul.maps.vix.com rblsmtpd -b -R 
-rrelays.orbs.org \
            qmail-smtpd 2>&1| setuser qmaill accustamp \
            | setuser qmaill  cyclog 1000000 /var/log/qmail-smtpd &


-------------------------------------------------------------------
IDG New Media     Einar Bordewich
System Manager   Phone: +47 2205 3034
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-------------------------------------------------------------------






On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:04:24PM +0200, Einar Bordewich wrote:

Yes.

> How do I configure rblsmtpd to check against more than ex. rbl.maps.vix.com?
> Do I have to run it over and over again ;)
> like this?
>  supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd \
>             tcpserver -v -c40 -x /etc/qmail-smtpd.cdb -u1000 -g1000 0 25 \
>             rblsmtpd -b -R rblsmtpd -b -R -rdul.maps.vix.com rblsmtpd -b -R 
>-rrelays.orbs.org \
>             qmail-smtpd 2>&1| setuser qmaill accustamp \
>             | setuser qmaill  cyclog 1000000 /var/log/qmail-smtpd &

-- 
See complete headers for more info




I'm using qmail for virtualdomain 'hosting'. I've got everything
working, but now I need to inject an additional header (like X-Delivered-To:)
into each mail message.

I've figured out how to get the header into the message, but I'm having
a problem with getting the right user name into that header.

For example,

all mail to domain 'test.cc' goes into the mailbox for user 'joe'.

If I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and use $RECIPIENT for the
X-Delivered-To: header, I get:

X-Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I need the actual (original) recipient's name (newuser) instead.

What variable should I be using?

Sal





Is there any way to get tcpserver to log deny's ?  I would like to see
the failures/rejections when it logs (similar to how tcpd does it in
Paranoid mode).

Any help would be appreciated.

The command I currently use to start my qmail/tcpserver is:
        /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -u 1017 -g 1016 -x
/var/qmail/tcp.smtp.cdb 0 smtp recordio /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
| /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &

Matt Soffen 
        Applications Developer
        http://www.iso-ne.com/
==============================================
Boss    - "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers."
Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX."
Boss    - "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said 
             never mind."
                                       - Dilbert -
==============================================





we use:

supervise <dir> tcpserver <options> qmail-smtpd 2>&1 \
   | setuser <user> accustamp \
   | setuser <user> cyclog <options> &

sorry to abbreviate, it's a shell script with lots of vars.

shag
=====
Judd Bourgeois        |   CNM Network      +1 (805) 520-7170
Software Architect    |   1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   Simi Valley, CA 93065

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Soffen, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mon 30 Aug 1999 13.04
Subject: tcpserver and rejection logging .


> Is there any way to get tcpserver to log deny's ?  I would like to see
> the failures/rejections when it logs (similar to how tcpd does it in
> Paranoid mode).
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> The command I currently use to start my qmail/tcpserver is:
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -u 1017 -g 1016 -x
> /var/qmail/tcp.smtp.cdb 0 smtp recordio /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
> | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
> 
> Matt Soffen 
> Applications Developer
> http://www.iso-ne.com/
> ==============================================
> Boss    - "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers."
> Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX."
> Boss    - "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said 
>              never mind."
>                                        - Dilbert -
> ==============================================
> 
> 





I have a bogus domain name and use the .COM domain suffix.
Before you start yelling DON'T DO IT. This is for the private LAN and
I do not do zone transfers.

Having said that, when I send email, from user1 to user2, the mail
is never delivered. I have the ~/Maildir in both the users $HOME
directories.

I am using the existing mail clients like MAIL and ELM. There is
nothing in the mailbox.

Where is the mail going? Qmail does not know my ISP mail server.
So, Qmail must have delivered it somewhere. The SYSLOG do
say it is a successful delivery.

=======================================================
Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.936721 new msg 1756429
Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.936878 info msg 1756429: bytes 335 from 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 416 uid 1003
Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.940407 starting delivery 1: msg 1756429 to 
local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.940491 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
Aug 30 13:32:06 caesar qmail: 936034326.193016 delivery 1: success: did_1+0+0/
Aug 30 13:32:06 caesar qmail: 936034326.193125 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
Aug 30 13:32:06 caesar qmail: 936034326.246553 end msg 1756429
=======================================================

I have also tried to do the following

$ telnet localhost 25

The message I get is
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

At this point, I am a bit lost. If any of the above information is familiar to
you, I would appreciate your help.

Thank you in advance.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
______________________________________________________________






Hi,
 
I have found this great FREE software which allows me to communicate 
reliably and in complete privacy. 1on1Lite is what email should have been. 
I want to communicate with you using 1on1Lite so you need to have a copy 
too. There is no charge and it is well worth getting the FREE download

Could you please download a copy of 1on1Lite from http://www.1on1mail.com 
and register. As soon as you have registered, you will be able to initiate 
a contact with me by asking for SID 3582

In the meantime you can e-mail me using this e-mail client by sending the message to 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gilberto Bottaro




Hi ! I installed qmail-idx, evrything works excepted one thing : ezmlm
always replaces the name of my list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) bye '<#l#>' as you can
see below... any idea of the matter ?

xinus.net is a virtualdomain.

Thank you !

====
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
<#l#>@xinus.net mailing list.

To confirm that you would like

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

added to the <#l#> mailing list, please send
an empty reply to this address:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
====


______________________________
Dimitri SZAJMAN - [EMAIL PROTECTED]






On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:41:15 +0200 (CET), Dimitri SZAJMAN wrote:

>Hi ! I installed qmail-idx, evrything works excepted one thing : ezmlm
>always replaces the name of my list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) bye '<#l#>' as you can
>see below... any idea of the matter ?

Please don't bug the qmail list anymore about your ezmlm installation.

1. This is a matter for the ezmlm list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
2. As I told you in now 3 private E-mail messages, you've managed to
create a hybrid installation with some parts (ezmlm-make) that are
ezmlm+ezmlm-idx and other parts (the binaries that the lists use) are
ezmlm-0.53 alone. How can you expect this to work?


-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)






I'm wondering if anyone knows of any sort of protocol or system built to
handle "email postage."  I'm of the belief that as long as email is an
essentially free service, people will always find a way to abuse it, and I'd
like to know if there's any sort of work going on in this area, research,
etc.

Before you ask - no, I don't think the USPS has any business charging for
email, nor any other governmental entity.  I'm talking about doing this on a
private, per-host basis, with the possibility of peering agreements,
pay-as-you-go for email transmission, automated exchange of payment info,
etc.

Just bored at work and looking for something to fool around with.  I've got
a feeling QMTP could probably do something with this pretty easily.  I've no
idea how you'd be able to integrate MUA's.

shag
=====
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Software Architect    |   1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   Simi Valley, CA 93065

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.






One scheme devised (and implemented) a couple years ago was "hash cash":
   http://www.mit.edu:8008/menelaus/cpunks/91769

Another vague proposal is:
   http://www.mall-net.com/spam/

Jim Lippard       [EMAIL PROTECTED]       http://www.discord.org/
Unsolicited bulk email charge:   $500/message.   Don't send me any.
PGP Fingerprint: 0C1F FE18 D311 1792 5EA8  43C8 7AD2 B485 DE75 841C

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Racer X wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone knows of any sort of protocol or system built to
> handle "email postage."  I'm of the belief that as long as email is an
> essentially free service, people will always find a way to abuse it, and I'd
> like to know if there's any sort of work going on in this area, research,
> etc.
> 
> Before you ask - no, I don't think the USPS has any business charging for
> email, nor any other governmental entity.  I'm talking about doing this on a
> private, per-host basis, with the possibility of peering agreements,
> pay-as-you-go for email transmission, automated exchange of payment info,
> etc.
> 
> Just bored at work and looking for something to fool around with.  I've got
> a feeling QMTP could probably do something with this pretty easily.  I've no
> idea how you'd be able to integrate MUA's.
> 
> shag
> =====
> Judd Bourgeois        |   CNM Network      +1 (805) 520-7170
> Software Architect    |   1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   Simi Valley, CA 93065
> 
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
> 
> 
> 





Dear Qmail Users!

I have problem to compile Qmail 1.03 on Redhat 6.0 (Intel).
When i run the command make setup check I get the following errors:

[root@srv10 /qmail-1.03]# make setup check
./compile qmail-local.c
exec: cc: not found
make: *** [qmail-local.o] Error 127

Any help to solve this problem would be very appreciated.

Best Regards, Tomas Gustafsson






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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Tomas Gustafsson wrote: 

> I have problem to compile Qmail 1.03 on Redhat 6.0 (Intel).  When i run
> the command make setup check I get the following errors: 
> 
> [root@srv10 /qmail-1.03]# make setup check
> ./compile qmail-local.c
> exec: cc: not found
> make: *** [qmail-local.o] Error 127

        Either you don't have your C compiler (cc) in your path, or you're
using the Gnu C Compiler (gcc).  If the latter, vi auto-ccld.sh and
replace 'cc' with 'gcc' and that should solve your problem.

- -Jay

   (                                                              ______
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