qmail Digest 5 Sep 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 750
Topics (messages 29841 through 29854):
POP3
29841 by: James Smallacombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
restarting qmail
29842 by: Bill Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The word from Mail.com
29843 by: Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mail.com blacklisting
29844 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John R. Levine)
Lobby mail.com
29845 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Check the RCPT TO: against
29846 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
patch wanted: add maildir to elm
29847 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any ideas?
29848 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29849 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
29850 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
qmail & inetd.conf
29851 by: Daemeon Reiydelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
standardizing qmail uid and gid numbers
29852 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
29853 by: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Header Rewriting in Qmail
29854 by: Farooq Ashraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Sat, 4 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have Qmail installed on a FreeBSD 3.2 box and want to allow users to
> check their mail via POP3 clients- I downloaded and installed the
> checkpassed package- but I believe tat I have to add a line to my startup
> files- what is it??
depends how you're running it...if you're running it from tcpserver:
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup hostname \
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
If you're not, use inetd.
This is covered in the FAQ:
5.3. How do I set up qmail-pop3d?
At 01:17 AM 9/4/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Stephen,
>
> A kill -HUP seems to always work for me.
>
/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail stop
/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail start
will also work well :)
-Bill
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 04:49:40PM -0400, Soffen, Matthew wrote:
> It looks to me that many machines running qmail will die on test 6.
>
> I tried my personal email server, one I do consulting for, the one at
> abuse.net, and muncher.math.uic.edu. It looks like all of them fail at
> Test 6.
>
> However when I ran the test on vix's mailer, it passed all the tests.
> The only reason it passes is that it checks the sender address BEFORE
> attempting to deliver. I also ran the test on Sendmail.org's server.
> It passes as well.
>
> I have a question though, how valid is testing
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to see if the address
> fails/rejected ?
> The mail server would HAVE to process the % hack. Its NOT necessarily a
> valid test on all servers. Its only appropriate to test this on servers
> who HAVE the % hack enabled.
>
> Comments ?
You are completely right. As stated before in this thread, % may very well
be a valid character in the user-part of an email-address.
Greetz, Peter
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>http://maps.vix.com/tsi/new-rlytest.cgi?ADDR=iq-ss5.iquest.net
I wrote that relay tester. It does indeed give false positives for
qmail. It mostly looks for sendmail holes, since that's where most
of the holes are.
One of the things on my list of things to do is to make it look at the
banner and if it recognizes the MTA, skip tests that are likely to give
false positives.
See http://www.abuse.net/relay.html for the full version that can actually
send test messages.
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John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl,
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail
Nathan J. Mehl writes:
> I'm afraid that the message sent by the abuse staff at Mail.Com to Mr.
> Bell was somewhat unclear.
Um, no, it was *completely* unclear. The first two sentences were
factual. From there it turned into utter drivel.
Blocking him was perfectly reasonable, and as you've noted, you've
unblocked him, apologized, and taken steps to ensure that it doesn't
happen again. On the other hand, sending him and this mailing list on
a wild goose chase, tracking down the rumor *you* generated with your
falsehood about failing relay tests, was completely unacceptable. You
really owe Justin and maybe us a second, different, apology.
I suggest that this is what it should have said (feel free to rip off
this verbiage and nounage):
On Thu Jul 15, we received a high volume of traffic from
206.246.140.165 (iq-ss5.iquest.net). Specifically, we got 472 messages
in an hour. We're afraid that that much traffic might have been a spam
attack, so we blocked you for a period of time. You might want to
check http://maps.vix.com/tsi/new-rlytest.cgi?ADDR=iq-ss5.iquest.net
to see if your machine is an open relay. If it is, you're going to
continue tripping our high-volume trigger, because the spammers aren't
going to go away. If it's not an open relay and you have good reason
to send that much mail, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we can set
you up in our whitelist.
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Einar Bordewich writes:
> What I really would like, is someone telling me how to make qmail
> check the RCPT TO: against the actual users on my machine.
Remember when some spammer got the bright idea of checking RCPT TO:
against the users he would like to spam? Are you really sure that you
want to give away that much information about your users?
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
I'm replacing/upgrading servers, and I'd like to switch to qmail.
The change makes for an easy opportunity to do the change. But
I have one crucial need before I can do that. I need a patch to
elm to make it pick up mail from a maildir as stored by qmail.
Has anyone put together such a patch yet?
Alternatives:
A patch to elm to make it read via POP3 would suffice since POP3
can be done on maildirs and it would thus be transparent to elm.
Someone who is an internals guru with mutt who knows how to disable
the color pallette change it does when it starts. I cannot use
mutt until that problem is corrected. Several people have tried,
as have I, and all have failed, so this might take a guru.
A guide to how to configure qmail to use a different delivery
mechanism per user, or how to configure it so it delivers in
the usual mailbox format for local users and in maildir format
for POP3 users.
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Phil Howard KA9WGN
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Dave Sill writes:
> >: The qmail logs show remote concurrency over any given time period.
>
> Not directly, as far as I can tell. Anyone have a script that'll parse
> a log and chart concurrency?
No, but you could do it pretty easily with my mrtg scripts and
configuration. http://www.crynwr.com/mrtg/ . The two scripts are in
qmail-mrtg and qmail-mrtg1 in that directory.
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 12:09:14AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Dave Sill writes:
> > >: The qmail logs show remote concurrency over any given time period.
> >
> > Not directly, as far as I can tell. Anyone have a script that'll parse
> > a log and chart concurrency?
>
> No, but you could do it pretty easily with my mrtg scripts and
> configuration. http://www.crynwr.com/mrtg/ . The two scripts are in
> qmail-mrtg and qmail-mrtg1 in that directory.
I have to point out that at least in MY unpatched qmail setup, the
qmail logs quite clearly point out both the local and remote concurrency
which qmail is reaching:
936506732.264512 starting delivery 780: msg 179819 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
936506732.264626 status: local 1/5 remote 0/50
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm wondering how "directly" they need to be showed. :)
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John White johnjohn
at
triceratops.com
PGP Public Key: http://www.triceratops.com/john/public-key.pgp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 12:09:14AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> > No, but you could do it pretty easily with my mrtg scripts and
> > configuration. http://www.crynwr.com/mrtg/ . The two scripts are in
> > qmail-mrtg and qmail-mrtg1 in that directory.
>
> I have to point out that at least in MY unpatched qmail setup, the
> qmail logs quite clearly point out both the local and remote concurrency
> which qmail is reaching:
You, obviously, have not gotten the MRTG religion! Repent, my boy!
Stop your sinning and join us now, in Tobi's eternal quest for the
perfect graph! Download MRTG! Graph some traffic! Then write your
scripts to put all time series data into MRTG format, including
concurrency remote and local! All hail the god Tobi!
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Qmail expects to see a tcp connection already set up for it. Starting it
as a daemon appears to fail for that reason.
System Administrator wrote:
>
> can qmail live without an entry in /etc/inetd.conf on solaris 7?
>
> can it just be happy with the following in /etc/init.d/inetsvc:
>
> csh -f '/var/qmail/rc' &
> echo "qmail started..."
>
> /basit
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Daemeon Reiydelle
Systems Engineer, Anthropomorphics Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is anyone trying to establish standard numbers for qmail uid and gid?
Or is the "diversity of standards" for other system uids to diverse
for such an effort to be effective?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Is anyone trying to establish standard numbers for qmail uid and gid?
> Or is the "diversity of standards" for other system uids to diverse
> for such an effort to be effective?
Too diverse. Debian has some pre-assigned, but Redhat does not, and
moreover refuses to, because J. Random Redhat sysadmin potentially
could have created his or her own userids <100, and Redhat has an
absolute requirement for any new version of their distribution to be
backwards-compatible. This means no new pre-assigned userids *at all*.
At least that's how it was a couple of years ago, and I don't expect
they've changed that requirement.
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Hi:
I would like to run Qmail on my firewall to receive and send mail from
internal and external networks respectively. The question is, how can I
rewrite/remove header information to hide the path that the message has
travelled (in fact to hide the identity of internal machines.)
Any suggestions/guidelines, etc.
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