qmail Digest 22 Oct 1999 10:00:02 -0000 Issue 797

Topics (messages 31921 through 32010):

Re: two questions....
        31921 by: Vince Vielhaber
        31925 by: Dave Sill
        31926 by: Petr Novotny
        31935 by: David Dyer-Bennet
        31967 by: Mirko Zeibig

forwarding to a domain on the same server !
        31922 by: Thomas Foerster

Qmail configuration problem
        31923 by: shajain

Re: Concurrencyremote for a specific host
        31924 by: Stan Horwitz
        31927 by: Russell Nelson
        31945 by: Mirko Zeibig
        31946 by: Magnus Bodin
        31956 by: Russell Nelson
        31968 by: Mirko Zeibig

Qmail and Email virus protection
        31928 by: Albert Hopkins

Sendmail to Qmail
        31929 by: Manuel de Ferran
        31930 by: Anand Buddhdev
        31931 by: Petr Novotny
        31937 by: Eric Dahnke

Mailer-daemon
        31932 by: Tony Wade
        31933 by: Dave Sill
        31934 by: Anand Buddhdev
        31943 by: courtney.whtz.com

fetchmail question
        31936 by: Emmanuel PIERRE
        31938 by: Eric Dahnke
        31975 by: Giles Lean

SIOCGIFCONF (or qmail?) problem? (fwd)
        31939 by: Vince Vielhaber

**URGENT** MAILSERVER stops working!!!!
        31940 by: Sven Veckes
        31944 by: Andre Oppermann
        31958 by: Albert Hopkins
        31960 by: Chris Johnson
        31963 by: Andre Oppermann
        31964 by: Eric Dahnke
        31965 by: Albert Hopkins
        31966 by: Dave Sill
        31969 by: Chris Johnson
        32005 by: Sven Veckes

reading users/cdb
        31941 by: Peeter Pirn
        31949 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen
        31955 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen
        31957 by: Frank D. Cringle
        31959 by: Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
        31962 by: Peeter Pirn

Re: Header Skelter (was: Re: this dam(N)(ED) list)
        31942 by: Nagy Balazs
        31947 by: Mate Wierdl

qmail-smtpd-wrapper
        31948 by: jyoung.helus.com
        31953 by: Dave Sill

More curious than anything
        31950 by: Tim Hunter
        31951 by: Timothy L. Mayo
        31998 by: Rogerio Brito

Remove from List
        31952 by: Mark Thomas
        31954 by: Timothy L. Mayo

Re: SIOCGIFCONF (or qmail?) problem?
        31961 by: Alex Povolotsky

Re: qmail stopped, reason unknown
        31970 by: James

mailbox /var/mail
        31971 by: Julian Alvarez Venegas

qmail
        31972 by: Neil Floris
        31973 by: Andre Oppermann
        31974 by: Luis Campos de Carvalho
        31994 by: Magnus Bodin

Looping followup.
        31976 by: courtney.whtz.com
        31980 by: Timothy L. Mayo

On-Demand Mail Relay (ODMR)
        31977 by: Peter Gradwell
        31979 by: Eric Dahnke
        32000 by: Anand Buddhdev

Queue's
        31978 by: eric

Remove or masquerade Received fields.
        31981 by: Pashinin

cannot start: qmail-send is already running
        31982 by: jyoung.helus.com

messages looping indefinetely
        31983 by: Lidia Marchioni
        31984 by: Russell Nelson

Multiple emails
        31985 by: Scott A. Cole
        31986 by: Fabrice Scemama
        31991 by: Scott A. Cole
        31992 by: Eric Dahnke

[fwd: SAUCE (paranoid anti-spam mailserver) 0.5.0 ALPHA released ]
        31987 by: Chris Garrigues

maildir newbie problem
        31988 by: kai.1stchina.com
        31989 by: Brad Shelton
        31995 by: Russell Nelson
        31999 by: Lyndon Griffin

Re: Odd bouncing loop
        31990 by: zip

spambait?
        31993 by: Russell Nelson
        31996 by: Blaine Lefler
        31997 by: Edward S. Marshall

Selective smarthosting (actually pretty dumb)
        32001 by: Magnus Bodin

tcpserver bug?
        32002 by: Nagy Balazs

Where does my letter go?
        32003 by: Hotdog
        32006 by: Anand Buddhdev

returning messages into the queue
        32004 by: Lidia Marchioni
        32008 by: Anand Buddhdev
        32010 by: Lidia Marchioni

possibly the most morronic question asked in this list...
        32007 by: dd
        32009 by: Anand Buddhdev

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On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I've got two more questions for everyone-
> 
> 1.) I want to write a pearl script to use as the back-end of a web page
> form, now normally I would reference the location of sendmail (eg.
> "/usr/lib/sendmail -t") but now that I'm running Qmail, what should I do to
> get this script to enable it to send outgoing e-mail??

# mv /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail.old    (or wherever your sendmail is)
# chmod 000 /usr/lib/sendmail.old
# ln -s /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail

That should have been done at qmail's installation time, although I don't
recall if it's in the docs.  Also I find php easier for the simple mail
thing and you can do it from within a web page.
 
> 2.) I am getting a message that prints on the screen of my FreeBSD based
> Qmail box saying something about a problem with the SMTPD something along
> the line of a loop or something...ring any bells with anyone??  I am not in
> front of the box so I can't quote the exact message, but I figure that
> someone on here must have seen it before...what is it?  why am I getting
> it?  how can I make it go away?  :-))

Seen it, but it's been awhile.  Either the message itself is very self
explanitory or the answer was in the FAQ.

Vince.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>1.) I want to write a pearl script to use as the back-end of a web page
>form, now normally I would reference the location of sendmail (eg.
>"/usr/lib/sendmail -t") but now that I'm running Qmail, what should I do to
>get this script to enable it to send outgoing e-mail??

"/usr/lib/sendmail -t" is fine.

>2.) I am getting a message that prints on the screen of my FreeBSD based
>Qmail box saying something about a problem with the SMTPD something along
>the line of a loop or something...ring any bells with anyone??

Not with me.

-Dave




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On 21 Oct 99, at 8:42, Dave Sill wrote:
> >2.) I am getting a message that prints on the screen of my FreeBSD based
> >Qmail box saying something about a problem with the SMTPD something along
> >the line of a loop or something...ring any bells with anyone??
> 
> Not with me.

Could it be inetd complaining that your qmail-smtpd is being 
spawned too often? If yes (ie. if you're using inetd), use tcpserver 
instead.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 21 October 1999 at 00:07:48 -0400
 > 
 > 
 > Hey everyone,
 > 
 > I've got two more questions for everyone-
 > 
 > 1.) I want to write a pearl script to use as the back-end of a web page
 > form, now normally I would reference the location of sendmail (eg.
 > "/usr/lib/sendmail -t") but now that I'm running Qmail, what should I do to
 > get this script to enable it to send outgoing e-mail??

Many of them will work with the sendmail-wrapper that qmail provides.
The suggestion to use the perl module for SMTP also makes sense.
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On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 09:46:49AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 21 October 1999 at 00:07:48 -0400
>  > 1.) I want to write a pearl script to use as the back-end of a web page
>  > form, now normally I would reference the location of sendmail (eg.
>  > "/usr/lib/sendmail -t") but now that I'm running Qmail, what should I do to
>  > get this script to enable it to send outgoing e-mail??
> 
> Many of them will work with the sendmail-wrapper that qmail provides.
> The suggestion to use the perl module for SMTP also makes sense.
At least the smtplib-module for python works flawlessly in it's newest
version (1.52), before it had some CrLF-problems.

Regards
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Hi there,

following config :

virtual-domains : 
n-online.net
hirscher.de

Handled by my qmail-server.

I now have to forward messages going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail now tells me, that the message has already been processed by qmail
and the messages
will bounce.

how can i do the above ?

Thanks a lot !


Thomas





Hi,
Four of my sites are connected on VSAT network and I am using qmail-Linux m/c at all sites, one of those four is a central relay server. Now the problem is I want to configure foo.com domain which should work like this : for locally configured users it should route locally and for the same domain name(foo.com) if the user is not configured locally then it should go to the remote relay server. If I define foo.com in locals then it sees that all the users(whether it is for local or remote) it is taking that as locals only and if i define bar1.foo.com, bar2.foo.com in locals for different sites it takes all the mail account as remote and for local users also it is travelling upto the relay servers and then going back.
Any help highly appreciated.
Thanks,
Shailendra. 




On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Tony Gale wrote:
> There's always an exception. For example, legacy systems with strange
> (but conformant) IP stacks - some VMS systems for example. I would
> love to be able to do set per-host concurrency for such systems where
> I know *exactly* what the upper limit on concurrent connections it
> can handle is, cause it's defined in it's IP / MTA implementation. 

I am the person who started this thread. For those who are curious. We run
Qmail on our Listserv. We recently upgraded the system on which our
Listserv runs to a considerably faster machine. As a result when our
semester started and more and more students began to use our Listserv for
their courses, our Listserv started sending out hundreds of messages in
bursts to our primary Unix cluster that some 40,000 people use for their
e-mail access. At about this time, we added a lot of graphical e-mail
access via IMAP on our central via IMAP. This new IMAP traffic, combined
with our faster flow of Listserv traffic was bringing our main Unix system
to its knees at certain points during the day. Right now, our central Unix
system uses Sendmail as its MTA. We are giving serious consideration to
migrating it from Sendmail to Qmail since we have had such good luck with
Qmail on our Listserv and we also plan on doing some additional changes to
better process e-mail for our users.

At first, we wanted to set a low concurencyremote value just for our
central Unix system since its what most of our lists' subscribers use for
their e-mail. As it turns out, I think we were initially too generous with
the concurrencyremote setting anyway on our Listserv. It was set to a
value of 50 which we set quite a while ago, if I am not mistaken. I halved
that value a couple of days ago. As a result, our central Unix system is
no longer being bombarded with excessive Listserv traffic, but response
time via e-mail from our Listserv to our central system and others is
still acceptable.

As a result, we no longer need to do anything special to accommodate our
central e-mail system. Even so, the responses I saw on the Qmail list
provided an excellent learning experience for me and I appreciate everyone
who took the time to reply.

Thank you





Tony Gale writes:
 > 
 > There's always an exception. For example, legacy systems with strange
 > (but conformant) IP stacks - some VMS systems for example. I would
 > love to be able to do set per-host concurrency for such systems where
 > I know *exactly* what the upper limit on concurrent connections it
 > can handle is, cause it's defined in it's IP / MTA implementation. 
 > 
 > There's no point in going above this figure cause it just ties up my
 > remote connections due to the way it handles connections above this
 > number - i.e. it becomes a black hole.

If you know that you have an ongoing need to talk to hosts like this,
install another instance of qmail with the desired concurrencyremote,
and use a virtualdomain on your main qmail to redirect the mail
through that qmail.  Sounds complicated, but it isn't.

echo 'dumb.host:dumbhost' >>/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
rm /var/qmail2/control/*
ln -s /var/qmail/control/me /var/qmail2/control/me
echo '4' >/var/qmail2/control/concurrencyremote
echo '|/var/qmail2/bin/forward "$EXT2"' >~alias/.qmail-dumbhost-default

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On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 09:30:41AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> If you know that you have an ongoing need to talk to hosts like this,
> install another instance of qmail with the desired concurrencyremote,
> and use a virtualdomain on your main qmail to redirect the mail
> through that qmail.  Sounds complicated, but it isn't.
> 
> echo 'dumb.host:dumbhost' >>/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
> rm /var/qmail2/control/*
> ln -s /var/qmail/control/me /var/qmail2/control/me
> echo '4' >/var/qmail2/control/concurrencyremote
> echo '|/var/qmail2/bin/forward "$EXT2"' >~alias/.qmail-dumbhost-default
Hello Russel,
I guess you have to recompile qmail, then and have two sets of binaries etc?
So this would only be an approach for a handful of hosts.

Best Regards
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On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 04:52:56PM +0200, Mirko Zeibig wrote:

> I guess you have to recompile qmail, then and have two sets of binaries etc?
> So this would only be an approach for a handful of hosts.

Yes, but Do you have a lot of hosts, then dedicate some of them to have high
concurrency and some low, if you feel that you need to.

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Mirko Zeibig writes:
 > I guess you have to recompile qmail, then and have two sets of binaries etc?

I would recommend that you have a whole separate source tree.

 > So this would only be an approach for a handful of hosts.

Right, those specific hosts which are consistently giving you trouble.
Hopefully you told the sysadmin that his system is broken, because if
it's giving you trouble, it's probably giving everyone else trouble as 
well.

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On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 01:34:42PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Right, those specific hosts which are consistently giving you trouble.
> Hopefully you told the sysadmin that his system is broken, because if
> it's giving you trouble, it's probably giving everyone else trouble as 
> well.
Well, not actually a problem for me, just an ``academic'' question ;-).
Right now, qmail is a very good solution for the three low-traffic-servers
(not more than 800 messages/day) controlled by me :-), but who knows what
the future will bring.

Regards
Mirko







Is there such a solution?  Is there a solution to have qmail detect
viruses in incoming email messages?


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Hye qmail users,

we're about to migrate to a qmail server.

We have an old sendmail machine with IP1 and a nicely qmail machine with
IP2.
We have an MX entry something like : domain.com. IN MX IP1
We cant switch IPs of the machine.

The problem is that : we modify the MX entry to redirects mail to IP2,
but we still receive mail on IP1 (because of the delay for updating DNS
entries).

How to solve that ?

1. using fetchmail ?
2. using a feature of Sendmail (didnt see anything that would fit) ?
3. a way to reduce the delay for updating MX entry ?

Thx

PS : I'm really impressed by the speed of qmail. Does 'Q' stand for
Quick ?
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On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 04:12:46PM +0200, Manuel de Ferran wrote:

> Hye qmail users,
> 
> we're about to migrate to a qmail server.
> 
> We have an old sendmail machine with IP1 and a nicely qmail machine with
> IP2.
> We have an MX entry something like : domain.com. IN MX IP1
> We cant switch IPs of the machine.
> 
> The problem is that : we modify the MX entry to redirects mail to IP2,
> but we still receive mail on IP1 (because of the delay for updating DNS
> entries).
> 
> How to solve that ?
> 
> 1. using fetchmail ?

Don't even think about it.

> 2. using a feature of Sendmail (didnt see anything that would fit) ?

Use sendmail's smarthost feature to forward all mail it receives for
your domain to the qmail host. Make sure your domain is not listed on
sendmail's /etc/sendmail.cw file (like qmail's locals file), and then
set the DS (I think) option in /etc/sendmail.cf to point to the qmail
host.

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On 21 Oct 99, at 16:12, Manuel de Ferran wrote:
> We have an old sendmail machine with IP1 and a nicely qmail machine with
> IP2. We have an MX entry something like : domain.com. IN MX IP1 We cant
> switch IPs of the machine.
> 
> The problem is that : we modify the MX entry to redirects mail to IP2, but
> we still receive mail on IP1 (because of the delay for updating DNS
> entries).
> 
> How to solve that ?
> 
> 1. using fetchmail ?

no

> 2. using a feature of Sendmail (didnt see anything that would fit) ?

Frankly:
A. Do not tell sendmail that mail for yourdomain.com is local to it; 
ie., it will deliver it to a better MX.
B. Allow relaying to yourdomain.com on the sendmail/

> 3. a way to reduce the delay for updating MX entry ?

Sure. Long time in advance (a week at least), give all your DNS 
entries a short lifetime. After the change, bring the lifetime back to 
normal to not have your DNS trashed.

> PS : I'm really impressed by the speed of qmail. Does 'Q' stand for
> Quick ?

I though it was for queue, like queue-mail.

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Hello,

Just add IP1 to the qmail machine, so it accepts both IP1 and IP2.

Look at the IP_Alias HOWTO if you don't know how to do that.


- Eric


Manuel de Ferran escribi�:
> 
> Hye qmail users,
> 
> we're about to migrate to a qmail server.
> 
> We have an old sendmail machine with IP1 and a nicely qmail machine with
> IP2.
> We have an MX entry something like : domain.com. IN MX IP1
> We cant switch IPs of the machine.
> 
> The problem is that : we modify the MX entry to redirects mail to IP2,
> but we still receive mail on IP1 (because of the delay for updating DNS
> entries).
> 
> How to solve that ?
> 
> 1. using fetchmail ?
> 2. using a feature of Sendmail (didnt see anything that would fit) ?
> 3. a way to reduce the delay for updating MX entry ?
> 
> Thx
> 
> PS : I'm really impressed by the speed of qmail. Does 'Q' stand for
> Quick ?
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Hi all, 

I would like to know if there is a way one could change the responce's from
the Mailer Daemon.

I had a user mail back to mailer daemon with the following. 
*grin*

what do you mean you have given up. shall i change my service provider?
Client.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <user>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 8:40 AM
Subject: failure notice


> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at Mailserver.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <Unknownuser>:
> Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)


Tony Wade (Postmaster)
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Tony Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I would like to know if there is a way one could change the responce's from
>the Mailer Daemon.

Sure, change the source.

>I had a user mail back to mailer daemon with the following. 
>*grin*
>
>what do you mean you have given up. shall i change my service provider?
>Client.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <user>
>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 8:40 AM
>Subject: failure notice
>
>
>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at Mailserver.
>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>addresses.
>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>
>> <Unknownuser>:
>> Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

How would you reword that message to make it clearer?

-Dave




On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 04:28:54PM +0200, Tony Wade wrote:

You'd have to edit source code, in particular, qmail-send.c. However,
note that qmail's bounce is in a specific format, QSBMF, and so it must
begin with the text "Hi. This is the ". Other than that, you can modify
it, and even add another language perhaps. I get these type of responses
too, because customers think a human is writing them. DJB once suggested
that mailer-daemon be aliased to a bounce which tells people that
they're writing to a machine, and should instead contact postmaster, but
it's a matter of choice.

> Hi all, 
> 
> I would like to know if there is a way one could change the responce's from
> the Mailer Daemon.
> 
> I had a user mail back to mailer daemon with the following. 
> *grin*
> 
> what do you mean you have given up. shall i change my service provider?
> Client.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <user>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 8:40 AM
> Subject: failure notice
> 
> 
> > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at Mailserver.
> > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> addresses.
> > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> >
> > <Unknownuser>:
> > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
> 
> 
> Tony Wade (Postmaster)
> The Internet Solution
> Tel:  (+27 11) 283 5483
> Fax:  (+27 11) 283 5401
> E-mail:       [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Web:  http://www.is.co.za
> #include <std/disclaimer.h>
> Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.
>         -- Dave Olson
> 

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I had one of my users write back to it telling it "I know that you are
probably very busy but could you please not give up and try it just one
more time"....I then proceded to post this in the copy room for all the
staff to see- everyone got a great laugh out of that one...


Bernie Courtney
Z100 New York Radio Engineering
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Hi,

        How can I set-up fetchmail to put downloaded mails in Maildirs ? 

REgards,

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               l'Emploi
                Sur Internet

32, rue Pierret, 92200 Neuilly
Tel LD: 01 41 92 91 50 - Mob: 06 57 60 42 17 - Fax: 01 41 91 92 54
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Hi,

Just set up fetchmail to inject downloaded messages into a qmail
instalation listening on port 25.

- Eric


Emmanuel PIERRE escribi�:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>         How can I set-up fetchmail to put downloaded mails in Maildirs ?
> 
> REgards,
> 
>         Emmanuel
> --
> Emmanuel PIERRE
> 
>         A P R - J o b
>                l'Emploi
>                 Sur Internet
> 
> 32, rue Pierret, 92200 Neuilly
> Tel LD: 01 41 92 91 50 - Mob: 06 57 60 42 17 - Fax: 01 41 91 92 54
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                        http://www.apr-job.com

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On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:10:49 +0000  Emmanuel PIERRE wrote:

>       How can I set-up fetchmail to put downloaded mails in Maildirs ? 

Either deliver it to the local mail system via SMTP, or specify a mail
delivery agent (mda line in .fetchmailrc) that writes mail to a
maildir.

Such a MDA is available at:

      ftp://ftp.nemeton.com.au/pub/src/deliver-maildir-1.1.tar.gz

The package includes a manual page; it's pretty simple.  It is also
usable from qmail (sometimes useful for delivery from .qmail-* files)
and sendmail since I use hosts I don't administer that (sigh) have
sendmail on them.

Regards,

Giles







This was just sent to a couple of FreeBSD mailing lists.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:32:16 +0400
From: Alex Povolotsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SIOCGIFCONF (or qmail?) problem?

Hello!

I've just found, that bringing up ppp0 on a computer with one more network
interface causes qmail-1.03 to crash.

Investigating further, I've found that one of qmail's internal variables
gets overwriten when calling ioctl SIOCGIFCONF with pointer to ifconf
structure as argument (ipme.c, line 57 in qmail).

I still have not found if qmail gives wrong address to ioctl or if ioctl use
more memory than requested. The fail seems to occur after iterating through
ds0 interface.

By the way, what is ds0, how it should be configured, and where is it
described? What does it do?

Does anyone else runs FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE with qmail and dial-in access? 

Alex.


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  Hi,

I'am running qmail-ldap on an alpha server (compaq ds-10). suddenly he
stops working.
Sysmtoms:
        no pop
        no smtp
        telnet really slow
        netstat hangs up

We have a lot of customers on this server.
I couldn't figure out where the problem is, some errormessage from
syslog was : in.telnetd....: ttloop .....

I need quick  help!
I' ve to fix the problem thats why I didn't write more.

But I will give you more info if you need, sorry.

Please help

Sven Veckes





Sven Veckes wrote:
> 
>   Hi,
> 
> I'am running qmail-ldap on an alpha server (compaq ds-10). suddenly he
> stops working.
> Sysmtoms:
>         no pop
>         no smtp
>         telnet really slow
>         netstat hangs up
> 
> We have a lot of customers on this server.
> I couldn't figure out where the problem is, some errormessage from
> syslog was : in.telnetd....: ttloop .....
> 
> I need quick  help!
> I' ve to fix the problem thats why I didn't write more.
> 
> But I will give you more info if you need, sorry.

Use tcpserver instead of inetd.

-- 
Andre

Get qmail-ldap at http://www.nrg4u.com






We are having the same problem all of the sudden.  We are already using
tcpserver for pop3d.

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Andre Oppermann wrote:

> Sven Veckes wrote:
> > 
> >   Hi,
> > 
> > I'am running qmail-ldap on an alpha server (compaq ds-10). suddenly he
> > stops working.
> > Sysmtoms:
> >         no pop
> >         no smtp
> >         telnet really slow
> >         netstat hangs up
> > 
> > We have a lot of customers on this server.
> > I couldn't figure out where the problem is, some errormessage from
> > syslog was : in.telnetd....: ttloop .....
> > 
> > I need quick  help!
> > I' ve to fix the problem thats why I didn't write more.
> > 
> > But I will give you more info if you need, sorry.
> 
> Use tcpserver instead of inetd.
> 
> -- 
> Andre
> 
> Get qmail-ldap at http://www.nrg4u.com
> 


--
Albert Hopkins
Sr. Systems Specialist
Dynacare, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 05:38:00PM +0200, Sven Veckes wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> I'am running qmail-ldap on an alpha server (compaq ds-10). suddenly he
> stops working.
> Sysmtoms:
>         no pop
>         no smtp
>         telnet really slow
>         netstat hangs up

Does netstat -n also hang up? If not, I'd be looking for a DNS problem.

> 
> We have a lot of customers on this server.
> I couldn't figure out where the problem is, some errormessage from
> syslog was : in.telnetd....: ttloop .....

This could be a red herring.

Chris




Albert Hopkins wrote:
> 
> We are having the same problem all of the sudden.  We are already using
> tcpserver for pop3d.

Linux 2.2.x on Alpha too? Doesn't sound like an qmail-ldap bug, it's
probably a bug of Linux kernel. I can't help with that, I have only
FreeBSD.

-- 
Andre





What is a red herring?

- Eric
 
> This could be a red herring.
> 
> Chris





No, this is Linux 2.0.36 on Intel.


--
Albert Hopkins
Sr. Systems Specialist
Dynacare, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Eric Dahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>What is a red herring?

Misleading evidence. See also:

    http://www.redherring.com/about/lore.html

-Dave




On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 04:14:29PM -0300, Eric Dahnke wrote:
> 
> What is a red herring?

Main Entry: red herring
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1 : a herring cured by salting and slow smoking to a dark brown color
2 [from the practice of drawing a red herring across a trail to confuse hunting
dogs] : something that distracts attention from the real issue 

Meaning 2 applies here. The point I was making was that the syslog smtpd entry
may have been unrelated to the problem.

Chris




Sven Veckes wrote:

>   Hi,
>
> I'am running qmail-ldap on an alpha server (compaq ds-10). suddenly he
> stops working.
> Sysmtoms:
>         no pop
>         no smtp
>         telnet really slow
>         netstat hangs up
>
> We have a lot of customers on this server.
> I couldn't figure out where the problem is, some errormessage from
> syslog was : in.telnetd....: ttloop .....
>
> I need quick  help!
> I' ve to fix the problem thats why I didn't write more.
>
> But I will give you more info if you need, sorry.
>
> Please help
>
> Sven Veckes

 After 5 hours I was not able to figure out, the probs. So I decide for a
partial new installaion of my Linux. I used my 2nd System disk for a new
installation. Afetr that I copied all neccercary files from the old  to
the new partition. I mounted my RAID, where qmail and my maildirs are
located. Then everything works fine again!

One strange point I have:
I'm using 2 ethternet cards, one for the "normal" network and one for a
"backbone" for ldap queries  and NFS shareing. And the ldap server on
this network has no route to the outside, and the mailserver could only
query the ldapserver when I delete the "nameserver" entry in
"resolve.conf". I think the one who wrote it it maybe a DNS prob. is
right but I don't know how to figure out  If anyone has a suggestoin to
me, please sens me a mail!
Anyway the system is working well and I got two servers left to test. So
lets go ahead.......


Thanks to all who helped me!


Best regards

--
Sven Veckes
KDD Telecomet Deutschland GmbH






I know I have a user fishbone in my users/cdb. How do I query users/cdb
from the command line?

I tried

bash-2.02$ cdbget \!fishbone < /var/qmail/users/cdb && echo ""
bash-2.02$ cdbget \!fishbone\x000 < /var/qmail/users/cdb && echo ""

I'm not able to retrieve the record.
------------------------------------------------------
Peeter Pirn - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sys Admin - FWI Internet




+ Peeter Pirn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| I know I have a user fishbone in my users/cdb. How do I query users/cdb
| from the command line?

I usually just ask qmail-getpw.

  qmail-getpw fishbone | tr '\000' :; echo
  qmail-getpw fishbone-something | tr '\000' :; echo

The problem with that, of course, is that you don't really know
whether the answer was extracted from users/cdb or deduced from the
passwd file.  You might wish to create a test version of qmail-getpw
to get around that.

- Harald




+ Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| + Peeter Pirn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| 
| | I know I have a user fishbone in my users/cdb. How do I query users/cdb
| | from the command line?
| 
| I usually just ask qmail-getpw.

How dumb.  qmail-getpw never looks in users/cdb; it is qmail-lspawn
which does, and then it runs qmail-getpw if the lookup failed.

Now, back in the qmail 1.01 days, I actually modified qmail-lspawn to
take a local part on the command line, do the lookup, report what it
found, and then run qmail-local just like qmail-lspawn does but with
the -n flag added.  You'll probably find it in the archives:

  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Harald




Harald Hanche-Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> + Peeter Pirn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> | I know I have a user fishbone in my users/cdb. How do I query users/cdb
> | from the command line?
> 
> I usually just ask qmail-getpw.
> 
>   qmail-getpw fishbone | tr '\000' :; echo
>   qmail-getpw fishbone-something | tr '\000' :; echo

  cdbdump </var/qmail/users/cdb | tr '\0' : | grep fishbone

cdbdump is in Dan's cdb-0.55 package.

-- 
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voice: (+49 2304) 467101; fax: 943357




Frank D. Cringle writes:
>   cdbdump </var/qmail/users/cdb | tr '\0' : | grep fishbone

Also, you can always use Perl. There's a cdb module in the CPAN.

Regards,

--
Adriano




Duh. Of course. Thank you!

> 
>   cdbdump </var/qmail/users/cdb | tr '\0' : | grep fishbone
> 


------------------------------------------------------
Peeter Pirn - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sys Admin - FWI Internet




On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Sam wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Balazs NAGY wrote:
> 
> > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Iam sorry.  This joke didn't work, but I had to pass explicite address when
I subscribed.  The From:-change didn't help.
-- 
Regards: Kevin (Balazs) @ synergon





   >
   >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   That's it.

Are you sure?  He has had two Delivered-To lines...

In any case, I think Dan might want to start using the verh patch.  Of
course, people should also save their subscription acknowledgment...

Mate




I have set my rc.qmail file as is written in LWQ. I'm trying to find some
more info on qmail-smtpd-wrapper. Especially what exactly it does, and what
ouput it gives.

Can anyone point me towards some more documentation?

Thanks

John





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I have set my rc.qmail file as is written in LWQ. I'm trying to find some
>more info on qmail-smtpd-wrapper. Especially what exactly it does, and what
>ouput it gives.
>
>Can anyone point me towards some more documentation?

The qmail-smtpd-wrapper is included in LWQ:

    #!/bin/bash
    ulimit -d 1024
    exec /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd ${1+"$@"}

It just uses bash's ulimit command to limit the data segment size of
the process to 1 MB, then exec's qmail-smtpd.

-Dave




I just had a friend test a change I made on my smtp, by telnetting to port
25 and manually sending a message.
Obviously he mistyped something and here is what showed up in my log:
940509236.293636 new msg 162004
940509236.293661 info msg 162004: bytes 194 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 22308
uid 501
940509236.309943 starting delivery 18: msg 162004 to local @cimx.com
940509236.309989 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
940509236.311783 delivery 18: success:
940509236.311810 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
940509236.311839 end msg 162004

my smtp is working, but that's not my question.
Where exactly was @cimx.com successfully delivered to?





On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Tim Hunter wrote:

> I just had a friend test a change I made on my smtp, by telnetting to port
> 25 and manually sending a message.
> Obviously he mistyped something and here is what showed up in my log:
> 940509236.293636 new msg 162004
> 940509236.293661 info msg 162004: bytes 194 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 22308
> uid 501
> 940509236.309943 starting delivery 18: msg 162004 to local @cimx.com
> 940509236.309989 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> 940509236.311783 delivery 18: success:
> 940509236.311810 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> 940509236.311839 end msg 162004
> 
> my smtp is working, but that's not my question.
> Where exactly was @cimx.com successfully delivered to?

The bit bucket.  He asked for qmail to drop his message on the floor when
it got to cimx.com and that is exactly what it did. :)  This has come up
before and been discussed many times.  qmail did exactly what he told it
to.  If you disagree with this behavior, please read the past threads in
one of the archives and then drop it. :)

---------------------------------
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Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/

The National Business Network Inc.      http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA  15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax





On Oct 21 1999, Tim Hunter wrote:
> my smtp is working, but that's not my question.  Where exactly was
> @cimx.com successfully delivered to?

        It was successfully delivered to the bit bucket (it had an
        empty local part, AFAICS).


        []s, Roger...

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I  deleted my old mail on how to get off of the list.  I need to remove
myself for a couple of weeks.
Where does the remove request get mailed to?
Thanks,
MarkT.







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On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Mark Thomas wrote:

> I  deleted my old mail on how to get off of the list.  I need to remove
> myself for a couple of weeks.
> Where does the remove request get mailed to?
> Thanks,
> MarkT.
> 
> 
> 
> 

---------------------------------
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Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/

The National Business Network Inc.      http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA  15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax





On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 09:49:13PM +0400, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
> and sets ifc.ifc_len to 1024. I am not kernel-hacker enough to understand
> what's happening in /sys/net/if.c between lines 820 and 877, and, people,

Well... I've made quick workaround for it. Patch for ipme.c applied:

57a58,62
>       if (ifc.ifc_len > len) {
>       /* We've got TRASHING! */
>       substdio_puts("PANIC: IOCTL trashed buffers!");
>       kill(getpid(), SIGABRT);;
>       }

So all ipme() users will die on ioctl trashing. 

However, shouldn't ioctl honour ifc.ifc_len?

Alex.




Well, it looks like all I needed to do was go to bed and get some sleep..
because when I woke up this morning, qmail was back to working fine again.
I had a ton of test emails show up in another mailbox at another location.
I have no idea what could have help qmail up.  Thanks, Russell, for the
suggestion that my /var partition might be full, but it looks to be fairly
free.  Is there a cron set up that clears these things out automatically?
Maybe that is why it's working now.. but I have no idea.

james





Hi all!,

Im trying to setup qmail on a sun ultra with solaris. The default mailbox
is /var/mail, what is the right /var/qmail/boot/binmx to execute?

Thanks in advance!
Julian





I was wondering if anyone could give me feed back on qmail vs sendmail..  Is
it faster, more stable, less problematic ?? etc...





Neil Floris wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone could give me feed back on qmail vs sendmail..  Is
> it faster, more stable, less problematic ?? etc...

Yes, yes, yes... etc = yes.

See http://www.pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html

-- 
Andre




On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Neil Floris wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone could give me feed back on qmail vs sendmail..  Is
> it faster, more stable, less problematic ?? etc...

        Mr. Neil, i think that qmail is the best open source MTA.
        It's very fast. Much more than the old sendmail.
        It uses much less memory (i think) to work.
        It's more stable (specially if you use ./Maildir/).
        It's easy to configure, easy to maintain, easy to fix (thanks to
the list people ;-)
        
        =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

        I think that is only one advantage on usign sendmail: you can
program it to play the old 'X' or 'O' game... ( somebody can tell me how
can i say this game name in english? )
        
         X |   |
        ___|___|___
           | X |
        ___|___|___
           |   |
           | O | O

        Somebody wanna play? ;-) 

        qmail is very good. Try it.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
                                                    Luis Campos de Carvalho
               System Administrator at ECB -- Escola Paulista de Medicina

"This post uses only 100% recycled electrons."
                                                             -- Shadowlion

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=





On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 06:18:44PM -0200, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Neil Floris wrote:
>       I think that is only one advantage on usign sendmail: you can
> program it to play the old 'X' or 'O' game... ( somebody can tell me how
> can i say this game name in english? )
>       
>        X |   |
>       ___|___|___
>          | X |
>       ___|___|___
>          |   |
>          | O | O


It's called tic-tac-toe. But the above story I've heard several times but
I have NOT seen any evidence trace of it but a small passus repeating the
fact that "... programming a tic-tac-toe game in sendmail.cf ...".

Anyone care to point me there? 

No, I'm not porting it to qmail ;-) 
I'm just very curious.

>       qmail is very good. Try it.

Yes it is. Very. 

-- 
magnus
        -- MOST useless 1998 * http://x42.com/






Hey everyone,

the message that I am getting is "smtp/tcp server failing (looping),
service terminated."  Can anyone shed a bit of light on this??  Now I will
say that we were running a contest on our WWW page with all the entries
(40,000+ e-mails) being handled by the Qmail server...could that have
anything to do with it?  I did a cold reboot and now it's been fine for
about 20 hours.....any ideas?  I really don't like the idea of having to
reboot the machine either- it's been up for 11days....

thanks for all your help,

Bernie Courtney
Z100 New York Radio Engineering
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]






The is an inetd error message.  Switch to tcpserver for qmail.  inetd has
a "feature" of disabling services that it thinks are being spawned too
quickly.  This is in the FAQ!

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> the message that I am getting is "smtp/tcp server failing (looping),
> service terminated."  Can anyone shed a bit of light on this??  Now I will
> say that we were running a contest on our WWW page with all the entries
> (40,000+ e-mails) being handled by the Qmail server...could that have
> anything to do with it?  I did a cold reboot and now it's been fine for
> about 20 hours.....any ideas?  I really don't like the idea of having to
> reboot the machine either- it's been up for 11days....
> 
> thanks for all your help,
> 
> Bernie Courtney
> Z100 New York Radio Engineering
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 

---------------------------------
Timothy L. Mayo                         mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/

The National Business Network Inc.      http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA  15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax





Hi,

has anyone got an implementation of

ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2645.txt

It's On-Demand Mail Relay (ODMR) - SMTP with Dynamic IP Addresses
by Randall Gellens of Qualcomm.

for qmail & maildirs?

- guess it would be kinda like serialmail, but not, IYSWIM.

thanks

peter

-- 
peter at gradwell dot com; http://www.gradwell.com/
gradwell dot com Ltd. Enabling the internet you don't see.





Looks to me a lot like UUCP, ETRN. I'd say it is a wrongly directed
initiative as any business worth a damn will have some type of permanent
access in the near future. 

- Eric

Peter Gradwell escribi�:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> has anyone got an implementation of
> 
> ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2645.txt
> 
> It's On-Demand Mail Relay (ODMR) - SMTP with Dynamic IP Addresses
> by Randall Gellens of Qualcomm.
> 
> for qmail & maildirs?
> 
> - guess it would be kinda like serialmail, but not, IYSWIM.
> 
> thanks
> 
> peter
> 
> --
> peter at gradwell dot com; http://www.gradwell.com/
> gradwell dot com Ltd. Enabling the internet you don't see.

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On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 10:14:41PM +0100, Peter Gradwell wrote:

See http://www.qmail.org/turnmail

> Hi,
> 
> has anyone got an implementation of
> 
> ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2645.txt
> 
> It's On-Demand Mail Relay (ODMR) - SMTP with Dynamic IP Addresses
> by Randall Gellens of Qualcomm.
> 
> for qmail & maildirs?
> 
> - guess it would be kinda like serialmail, but not, IYSWIM.

-- 
See complete headers for more info




What kind of beliefs are held on mounting /var/qmail/queue on a seperate
partition? Are any problems out there with this?

I'm thinking of this statement from the FAQ -->

"Do not use async (or softupdates) filesystems; if you do, and if your
system crashes at the wrong moment, you will lose mail. Under Linux, make
sure that all mail-handling filesystems are mounted sync..."

Therefore we will be testing a seperate queue partition mounted 
sync (in Linux) -> but experience is best.






Good Day.

We have outer mail server with qmail installed and local mail server
behind 
the first one.

I'd like to cut or masquerade name of local mail-server from Received
and other headers names. 

How can I do it ?

Thanks
-- 
Pashinin:OL




I have configured my rc file as laid out in LWQ. I am getting this error in
maillog.

Oct 21 13:54:13 hchlunx01 qmail: 940532053.685387 alert: cannot start:
qmail-send is already running
Oct 21 13:54:14 hchlunx01 qmail: 940532054.705194 alert: cannot start:
qmail-send is already running
Oct 21 13:54:15 hchlunx01 qmail: 940532055.725390 alert: cannot start:
qmail-send is already running
Oct 21 13:54:16 hchlunx01 qmail: 940532056.745306 alert: cannot start:
qmail-send is already running


Since the errors are every second I believe it has something to do with
supervise.  /var/log/qmail gets 10 files all time stamped. This fits with
cyclogs parameters. Inside each file is a list of hundreds of pids. Which I
think would coincide with the output from attempting to start qmail-send.

[1] 522
[1] 545
[1] 561
[1] 567
[1] 573
[1] 579

My hunch is that something is telling supervise that qmail-send is down.
This is as far as I've got. My assumptions could be wrong.


Any ideas?

Thanks

John






I posted a message yesterday but haven't heard anything back.

Our news server feeds posts to mailing list (qmail / ezmlml).  Here is
an error received from qmail:

20 13:25:02: Opening /var/spool/dnews/work/netdynamicslists.send
20 13:25:02: Sending this to
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
20 13:25:02: Sending this to
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
20 13:25:03: Sending this to
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
20 13:25:03: Wrapping long line 304
20 13:25:03: Wrapping long line 202
20 13:25:03: Wrapping long line 15288
20 13:45:04: DATA body: Expecting 250, got 451 timeout (#4.4.2)


20 13:45:04: Reque 0 {<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
netdynamics.public.support.nd4.talk:19657:210:2502890:16512:0:0}
20 13:45:04: (Broken pipe) nntp: Socket closed, errno=32 noipname
20 13:45:04: (Broken pipe) nntp_perror: socket_read failed
20 13:45:04: nntp: Closing socket chan[1] 4 noipname
20 13:45:04: Thats odd, channel closed from 0 to -1
20 13:45:04: Done xmit
20 13:45:04: 8 read, 2 sent, 1 rejected, 0.00166113 per second
20 13:45:08: Waiting for next xmit time {*5 *}
20 13:45:13: Local site {forums.netdynamics.com}
20 13:45:13: nntp: Doing forward DNS lookup
20 13:45:13: nntp: forward DNS completed
20 13:45:13: Destination  site {forums.netdynamics.com:25}
20 13:45:13: here_hello recieved
20 13:45:13: Flush successful 280 Site flushed

now according to some earlier posting:
-----------------------
A quick grep of qmail-smtpd.c shows that a 451 can only be generated due

to an internal problem with qmail-queue or a resource limit is exceeded.

-----------------------

I have stopped qmail-send last night.  Only qmail-smtpd, qmail-queue and
qmail-inject are running.  The same messages (repeated over and over)
are piling up in queue/mess/.  If this was an internal qmail-queue
problem what could be the fix? Any troubleshooting ideas?  We are
running inetd.  We have had this configuration work successfully for
around a year, no changes were done recently...
thanks
lidia





Lidia Marchioni writes:
 > Our news server feeds posts to mailing list (qmail / ezmlml).  Here is
 > an error received from qmail:

Why are you getting an SMTP error?  I'm sorry, I mean why are you
getting an *SMTP* error?

 > 20 13:45:04: DATA body: Expecting 250, got 451 timeout (#4.4.2)
 > 
 > 20 13:45:04: Reque 0 {<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > netdynamics.public.support.nd4.talk:19657:210:2502890:16512:0:0}

Is this your news server which is requeuing the message?

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I have a script written in php3 that sends email via the php calls. We use
qmail on our system and thus so does the php.

However, as of late, users of this script have been getting multiple
emails being sent out when using it.

Does anyone know what's going on here?

-------------------------------------------
Scott A. Cole
Senior Vice President, Engineering & CTO
OneSight, Inc.
http://onesight.com

OneSight - "Connecting Companies with Consumers"
-------------------------------------------






Well, Mr Vice President,
your PHP3 script might be badly designed ;-)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Scott A. Cole wrote:

> I have a script written in php3 that sends email via the php calls. We use
> qmail on our system and thus so does the php.
> 
> However, as of late, users of this script have been getting multiple
> emails being sent out when using it.
> 
> Does anyone know what's going on here?
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> Scott A. Cole
> Senior Vice President, Engineering & CTO
> OneSight, Inc.
> http://onesight.com
> 
> OneSight - "Connecting Companies with Consumers"
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 





It's pretty simple code, but if you have any productive in sights, I would
enjoy hearing them.

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Fabrice Scemama wrote:

> Well, Mr Vice President,
> your PHP3 script might be badly designed ;-)
> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Scott A. Cole wrote:
> 
> > I have a script written in php3 that sends email via the php calls. We use
> > qmail on our system and thus so does the php.
> > 
> > However, as of late, users of this script have been getting multiple
> > emails being sent out when using it.
> > 
> > Does anyone know what's going on here?
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Scott A. Cole
> > Senior Vice President, Engineering & CTO
> > OneSight, Inc.
> > http://onesight.com
> > 
> > OneSight - "Connecting Companies with Consumers"
> > -------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 






What do your logs say Mr. Vice President? Can you show evidence of qmail
producing duplicates. In my mail system experience, 95% of all repeated
messages happen somewhere in the POP3 transaction. (server mailbox -->
POP3 --> mail client).

- Phushnickens



"Scott A. Cole" escribi�:
> 
> It's pretty simple code, but if you have any productive in sights, I would
> enjoy hearing them.
> 
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Fabrice Scemama wrote:
> 
> > Well, Mr Vice President,
> > your PHP3 script might be badly designed ;-)
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Scott A. Cole wrote:
> >
> > > I have a script written in php3 that sends email via the php calls. We use
> > > qmail on our system and thus so does the php.
> > >
> > > However, as of late, users of this script have been getting multiple
> > > emails being sent out when using it.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what's going on here?
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > > Scott A. Cole
> > > Senior Vice President, Engineering & CTO
> > > OneSight, Inc.
> > > http://onesight.com
> > >
> > > OneSight - "Connecting Companies with Consumers"
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >




FYI, this announcement fell in my mailbox.



-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I am pleased to announce the first public release of GNU SAUCE,
version 0.5.0 ALPHA.

SAUCE (Software Against Unsolicited Commercial Email) is an SMTP
server that sits between the Internet and your actual mail software.
It was originally written to help in the fight against spam, but it
also helps encourage good configuration and administration in general.

It has various tactics for reducing incoming spam:
* Extremely aggressive checks on incoming email and its sources.
  If any problems are discovered the mail is not accepted.
* Spambait addresses: when mail is sent to a bait address its
  sources are blacklisted.
* Mail from previously-unknown sources is delayed to give them a
  chance to try a bait address or get their account cancelled.

Pros:
* SAUCE is very sucessful.  It can cut spam by an order of magnitude.
* Administrators using SAUCE have to deal with much less bounced mail.
* SAUCE never bounces legitimate mail from correct, non-spamming sites.

Cons:
* Hardly any documentation at the moment - for mail experts only !
* Most spam sources are misconfigured, but many other sites are too,
  and SAUCE will bounce their mail.  SAUCE is not for you if clueless
  strangers often send you mail that's important to you.
* SAUCE delays mail from new senders and sites (configurable, though).
* SAUCE is something of a resource hog.
* SAUCE is hard to install, especially if you're not using Debian.

SAUCE is not a mailer.  You need existing SMTP software, which must
have standard anti-spam features such as relay prevention, checking
recipients during the SMTP conversation, etc.  Currently you must be
using Exim, though support for other mailers could be added.  You also
need Tcl 8.1 or later.

Software which will make SAUCE easier to install or more functional:
* authbind (as from Debian GNU/Linux).
* userv (`you-serve', www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/userv/).
* Linux 2.2 ipchains firewalling.

See also:
 The Exim Internet Mailer (www.exim.org)
 The Mail Abuse Protection System (http://maps.vix.com/)
 The Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email (www.cauce.org)

For more information, including details of the mailing lists, CVS
repository, and distribution files, visit
  http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/sauce/
SAUCE is also available via the GNU FTP site and its mirrors, listed
below.  0.5.0 ALPHA should soon be available at most mirrors.

If you have queries, please join the sauce-discuss mailing list in
preference to mailing the author.  Thank you.

MD5 checksum:
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hi all:
now I use maildir mode of qmail ,
do I have to make .qmail and Maildir   for all users manually.
and can it automatically be produced
when a mail arrive like the Mbox or /var/spool/mail/users in Sendmail.






On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 10:33:36AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi all:
> now I use maildir mode of qmail ,
> do I have to make .qmail and Maildir   for all users manually.
> and can it automatically be produced
> when a mail arrive like the Mbox or /var/spool/mail/users in Sendmail.

Yow can add maildirmake to your default delivery in /var/qmail/rc like so...

----
#!/bin/sh

# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Maildir/ by default.

export PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH:/usr/local/bin"

qmail-start "|test -d ./Maildir || maildirmake ./Maildir
./Maildir/
" splogger qmail
----

Or some such, depending on which shell environment. The above is bash.

-- 
Brad Shelton  On Line Exchange  http://online-isp.com




[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > now I use maildir mode of qmail ,
 > do I have to make .qmail and Maildir   for all users manually.
 > and can it automatically be produced
 > when a mail arrive like the Mbox or /var/spool/mail/users in Sendmail.

Yes, you can, but it means that every mail delivery from now to
eternity checks for the existence of a Maildir.  It's much easier to
use my convert-and-create script to create maildirs for everybody, and
add a Maildir to /etc/skel.

-- 
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Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Yes - too bad there is a plethora of UN*X "admins" out there who don't know the
-m -k /etc/skel options exist...  there is no substitute for experience, but
(insert your man page viewer here) is a good start.

<:)  Lyndon

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  > now I use maildir mode of qmail ,
>  > do I have to make .qmail and Maildir   for all users manually.
>  > and can it automatically be produced
>  > when a mail arrive like the Mbox or /var/spool/mail/users in Sendmail.
> 
> Yes, you can, but it means that every mail delivery from now to
> eternity checks for the existence of a Maildir.  It's much easier to
> use my convert-and-create script to create maildirs for everybody, and
> add a Maildir to /etc/skel.
> 
> -- 
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




As it turns out, the Novell system running GroupWise 5.2 had crashed the
day before.  Apparently something was stuck in the queue.  By the time a
tech got to it, there were over 60,000 copies in the queue.

I suppose the problem was not really qmail related and did not belong on
the list.  I wasn't sure of that though, and was looking for confirmation
that qmail was not at fault.

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, zip wrote:
> Hi,
>   A Groupwise server (company123.com) that uses my qmail server 
> (mail.zipcon.net) as a relay just sent 6000+ messages identical to the one
> included.  It appears to me that the Groupwise server is not properly
> handling verification that the bounced message has been delivered, or in
> this case, also bounced.  Either that, or the the rocketmail server is not
> properly bouncing the message.
[snip]





Chris Garrigues writes:
 > * Spambait addresses: when mail is sent to a bait address its
 >   sources are blacklisted.

I have bunches of spambait addresses.  Let's use them to combat spam.
How's this for a plan:

  o We make some software for qmail users which extracts the
    connecting IP address from spam sent to spambait.  I have
    something like this already.
  o It sets the Subject: to the IP address, and emails the spam
    to a mailing list (which I'd be happy to host).
  o We make some software which gets subscribed to that mailing list.
    It takes the IP address from the Subject:, and stuffs it into your 
    /etc/spammers.txt file like this:
        IP.AD.DR.ESS:allow,RBLSMTPD=-Your host is spamming.
    That file, plus your usual /etc/smtp.txt, are combined to create
    smtp.cdb whenever new spamming hosts are added.  From time to time 
    the oldest addresses are removed.

Is this of interest to anyone?  Is anyone doing it already?  It's not
a qmail-specific thing, although the code for the sender and receiver
would be.

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521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




This sounds like a great idea. I would be willing to try it.





On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Is this of interest to anyone?  Is anyone doing it already?  It's not
> a qmail-specific thing, although the code for the sender and receiver
> would be.

There's a slight problem here...how do you prevent someone from
maliciously injecting bogus addresses into the list? Some form of
authentication included in the message to the list?

It seems to me that this is a system that would imply a great deal of
trust. I barely trust Vixie & Co. with my mail, and this potentially
involves a lot of other people. What would be the criteria for being
permitted to post to this list?

You'd also need some form of filtering to ensure that multiple copies of
the same address never make it to the mailing list, so that all the
recipients don't need to take on the work of processing them several
times.

Why not just do it as an RBL-style list, so as to make the information
more easily queried? Have the auto-submissions simply add the address to
an RBL-style DNS zone, and you're all set. Anyone with an RBL-aware system
(which is damn near anyone, these days) can then use your blacklist, and
storage/expiration would be centralized.

-- 
Edward S. Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       [ What goes up, must come down. ]
http://www.logic.net/~emarshal/               [ Ask any system administrator. ]









I want to do selective smarthosting for some extreme dumb reason.

I.e. I host a virtual domain for x users. A handful of them needs to be
smarthosted (i.e. SMTP:ed to another host).

I really don't want to use serialmail, but a solution similiar forward or
qmail-inject, where the REMOTE HOST can be set.

I have a very wague memory of someone using mail addresses in smtproutes,
and even that Russell said it was OK, but I can clearly see that nothing in
the qmail-remote source does anything like it, so that must be a ghost of my
mind.

Any ideas someone?

(The dumb way to do it -- which I want to avoid -- is to setup another instance
of qmail and smarthost the whole domain to The Other Host. Thus setting up
aliases for The Weird Users doing /var/qmail2/qmail-inject and thus queueing
it away fot The Other Host)

-- 
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        -- MOST useless 1998 * http://x42.com/




Hi,

Yesterday morning I noticed that every qmail service was down.  There was an
xs4all guy who tried the host's ports (many telnet, ftp etc. connections),
including pop3 and smtp ports (these are served by tcpserver/qmail).  When I
tried the listening ports, it came to light that inetd's services worked
right but tcpserver's services went down.  I didn't see any exciting in the
log.
-- 
Regards: Kevin (Balazs) @ synergon





Hi,

  I found a very strange program, and anyone can help me?

  In the server's users/assign,I added the following line:
  =hotdog:nobody:65534:65534:/usr/mail/ho/hotdog:::
  so mailbox [EMAIL PROTECTED] is work fine . :)

  then I did another test,I sent some letters to [EMAIL PROTECTED], for the reason 
I want to know if qmail think this is letter to mailbox 'hotdog' or to another 
un-existent box 'hotdog-test'. (in users/assign, it begin with '=' and not '+')

  qmail's log show me :

576977.293613 starting delivery 464: msg 23707 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
576977.295332 status: local 1/10 remote 2/50
576977.310426 delivery 464: success: did_0+0+0/

  All seems ok? but not. Either can I found this letter in hotdog's mailbox ,nor in 
bounced letters.

  Now ,the problem is, where does this letter go?
  



            Hotdog
            [EMAIL PROTECTED]





On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 03:32:54PM +0800, Hotdog wrote:

>   In the server's users/assign,I added the following line:
>   =hotdog:nobody:65534:65534:/usr/mail/ho/hotdog:::
>   so mailbox [EMAIL PROTECTED] is work fine . :)
> 
>   then I did another test,I sent some letters to [EMAIL PROTECTED], for the 
>reason I want to know if qmail think this is letter to mailbox 'hotdog' or to another 
>un-existent box 'hotdog-test'. (in users/assign, it begin with '=' and not '+')
> 
>   qmail's log show me :
> 
> 576977.293613 starting delivery 464: msg 23707 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 576977.295332 status: local 1/10 remote 2/50
> 576977.310426 delivery 464: success: did_0+0+0/

The last line says "did_0+0+0", ie. it didn't do any deliveries, or
pipes or forwards, and the message went down a black hole. Perhaps you
have a user "hotdog" in your /etc/passwd, and they have in their home
directory a file .qmail-test or .qmail-default which doesn't have
explicit delivery instructions (perhaps a single '#' character), so the
mail is getting thrown away.

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We had some problems with qmail resending messages, so we removed all
the messages from /var/qmail/queue/mess directories into a backup
place.  I am trying to some of them back in the queue, but when I run
qmail-qsanity I get the following error:

uid incorrect (is 0, want 950) on mess/0/57385
inode incorrect (is 1069129, expected 57385) on mess/0/57385
uid incorrect (is 0, want 950) on mess/0/57707
inode incorrect (is 1069130, expected 57707) on mess/0/57707

does it mean these messages won't be delivered?  Is there a clean way of
putting messages back into the queue?

Also I can see a couple of the following:

message has no entry in info: 698465
message is neither local nor remote: 698465

where can I find an explanation of what that means?
thanks
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 12:57:15AM -0700, Lidia Marchioni wrote:

> We had some problems with qmail resending messages, so we removed all
> the messages from /var/qmail/queue/mess directories into a backup
> place.  I am trying to some of them back in the queue, but when I run
> qmail-qsanity I get the following error:
> 
> uid incorrect (is 0, want 950) on mess/0/57385
> inode incorrect (is 1069129, expected 57385) on mess/0/57385
> uid incorrect (is 0, want 950) on mess/0/57707
> inode incorrect (is 1069130, expected 57707) on mess/0/57707
> 
> does it mean these messages won't be delivered?  Is there a clean way of
> putting messages back into the queue?

You can restore the messages into the queue, but before you attempt
delivery, you have to fix the inode numbering and ownerships. There's a
script on www.qmail.org called queue-fix, which will help you do this.

> Also I can see a couple of the following:
> 
> message has no entry in info: 698465
> message is neither local nor remote: 698465

Don't know what that means. Perhaps you haven't restored all the message
files correctly?

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works like a charm ;-)
thanks
lidia


Anand Buddhdev wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 12:57:15AM -0700, Lidia Marchioni wrote:
>
> > We had some problems with qmail resending messages, so we removed all
> > the messages from /var/qmail/queue/mess directories into a backup
> > place.  I am trying to some of them back in the queue, but when I run
> > qmail-qsanity I get the following error:
> >
> > uid incorrect (is 0, want 950) on mess/0/57385
> > inode incorrect (is 1069129, expected 57385) on mess/0/57385
> > uid incorrect (is 0, want 950) on mess/0/57707
> > inode incorrect (is 1069130, expected 57707) on mess/0/57707
> >
> > does it mean these messages won't be delivered?  Is there a clean way of
> > putting messages back into the queue?
>
> You can restore the messages into the queue, but before you attempt
> delivery, you have to fix the inode numbering and ownerships. There's a
> script on www.qmail.org called queue-fix, which will help you do this.
>
> > Also I can see a couple of the following:
> >
> > message has no entry in info: 698465
> > message is neither local nor remote: 698465
>
> Don't know what that means. Perhaps you haven't restored all the message
> files correctly?
>
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errm hi

i'm a newbie administrator and i have installed qmail a few days ago. not
much probs actually. hmm, i went through all the documents but there's a
small point i didn't understand. errm what does "sos" mean? i mean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc, what does that "sos" stand for? 

thank you... <:}

love+peace and the other good thingies,
dd






On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 11:27:21AM +0300, dd wrote:
  
> errm hi
> 
> i'm a newbie administrator and i have installed qmail a few days ago. not
> much probs actually. hmm, i went through all the documents but there's a
> small point i didn't understand. errm what does "sos" mean? i mean
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc, what does that "sos" stand for? 

It's just an example extension used in the documentation to illustrate
qmail's ability to deal with address extensions.

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