qmail Digest 24 Oct 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 799

Topics (messages 32049 through 32065):

Big-Todo patch
        32049 by: Florian G. Pflug
        32052 by: Peeter Pirn

We need Home Workers!
        32050 by: mohwo.att.net

relaying...
        32051 by: dd
        32054 by: James Smallacombe

Re: qmail
        32053 by: James Smallacombe

Qmail won't send mail
        32055 by: Subba Rao
        32061 by: Carrott

SMTP connections
        32056 by: Bill Parker

Re: [OT] Any thoughts on instant messaging vs. smtp
        32057 by: Todd A. Jacobs

virtual domains with mbox format
        32058 by: Jim B

forwarding domain
        32059 by: Peter Green

defaulthost and Eudora
        32060 by: Carrott

Net::POP3 perl doesn't work
        32062 by: Jon Rust
        32063 by: Mikko H�nninen
        32064 by: Mikko H�nninen
        32065 by: Frank D. Cringle

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Hi

Can someone tell me what the big-todo-patch is? What does is change/make
better/optimize?

greetings, Florian Pflug





Check the mailing list archives for more detail. Qmailaserializes(?)
message delivery from the queue if thereaare too many messages waiting to
be processed into the queuea(listed as "still to be processed" in
qmail-qstat).a> Can someone tell me what the big-todo-patch is? What does
is change/makea> better/optimize?a> a> greetings, Florian Pfluga> aaaP.
Pirn - Sys Admin - see complete headers for more info




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hi again,

i'd like the users in .mydomain.com to use my machine as a relay host. so
i did what the FAQ says, changed the smtp like in inetd.conf, HUPped it
and added the line

tcp-env:.mydomain.com:set RELAYCLIENT

but still when i try to send a mail from a client, it says

sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)',
Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 553, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

errm, what did i miss?


thanks,
dd






Install ucspi-tcp (tcpserver) and don't use inetd

http://www.qmail.org has a link to complete instructions.

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, dd wrote:

> 
> hi again,
> 
> i'd like the users in .mydomain.com to use my machine as a relay host. so
> i did what the FAQ says, changed the smtp like in inetd.conf, HUPped it
> and added the line
> 
> tcp-env:.mydomain.com:set RELAYCLIENT
> 
> but still when i try to send a mail from a client, it says
> 
> sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)',
> Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 553, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
> 
> errm, what did i miss?
> 
> 
> thanks,
> dd
> 
> 





On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Peter Samuel wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Magnus Bodin wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 06:18:44PM -0200, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> > > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Neil Floris wrote:
> > >   I think that is only one advantage on usign sendmail: you can
> > > program it to play the old 'X' or 'O' game... ( somebody can tell me how
> > > can i say this game name in english? )
> > >   
> > >        X |   |
> > >       ___|___|___
> > >          | X |
> > >       ___|___|___
> > >          |   |
> > >          | O | O
> > 
> > 
> > It's called tic-tac-toe. But the above story I've heard several times but
> > I have NOT seen any evidence trace of it but a small passus repeating the
> > fact that "... programming a tic-tac-toe game in sendmail.cf ...".
> 
> <flippant>
> That's not the question he asked. He wanted to know what the game is
> called in _English_. It's called "Noughts and Crosses". In _American_
> it's called "tic-tac-toe" :)
> </flippant>

Ok, but what's it called in Australian?   :-P

> I used to have a sendmail.cf that turned sendmail into a slow
> mathematical calculator. I'll see if I can hunt it down (I'll also
> have to find a sendmail system to test it - not many around here
> any more :)

You should see if there's a way to convert it to work with qmail control
files.  Then we could have a fast mathematical calculator...





Hello,

My qmail starts fine now. However, in the past, I could send email to Internet hosts
and to my other Internet accounts. Now, I am not able to do that.

Here are the entries in my log file.

Oct 23 12:15:10 caesar qmail: 940695310.336560 delivery 3: failure: 
Sorry._Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-preference_MX_or_A_for_that_host,/it_isn't_in_my_control/locals_file,_
so_I_don't_treat_it_as_local._(#5.4.6)/
Oct 23 12:15:10 caesar qmail: 940695310.345118 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
Oct 23 12:15:10 caesar qmail: 940695310.345346 triple bounce: discarding bounce/

The /var/qmail/control/locals file, has my LAN host names.

What configuration files, should I investigate, to resolve this problem?

Thank you in advance.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============================================================
Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
______________________________________________________________





I had fun with this one. Have a look at the FAQ, right at the end of 
section 5.4. Using the tcp.smtp entry was the only way I could get my 
client machine to send e-mails to Qmail. Once this is setup, it should work 
like a dream. Haven't tried this out on-line yet but you may have to add 
the IP address of your ISP's SMTP server as well. This also bypassed the 
rcpthosts file.

At 17:34 23/10/99 , Subba Rao wrote:
>Hello,
>
>My qmail starts fine now. However, in the past, I could send email to 
>Internet hosts
>and to my other Internet accounts. Now, I am not able to do that.
>
>Here are the entries in my log file.
>
>Oct 23 12:15:10 caesar qmail: 940695310.336560 delivery 3: failure:
>Sorry._Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-preference_MX_or_A_for_that_host,/it_i 
>sn't_in_my_control/locals_file,_
>so_I_don't_treat_it_as_local._(#5.4.6)/
>Oct 23 12:15:10 caesar qmail: 940695310.345118 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
>Oct 23 12:15:10 caesar qmail: 940695310.345346 triple bounce: discarding 
>bounce/
>
>The /var/qmail/control/locals file, has my LAN host names.
>
>What configuration files, should I investigate, to resolve this problem?
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Subba Rao
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>==============================================================
>Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.
>
>http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
>______________________________________________________________






Hello All,

        With the help of Ken Jones at inter7.com, I have qmail running on a
slightly faster pent-133 (as opposed to a pent-100), and things are working
well, however, how fast should an SMTP connection take to this box (it has
a static IP which is part of our companys class C), and runs NAT via
IPchains, smtp/pop3 via qmail v1.03, sshd 1.1.27, samba, etc...to send a mail
message takes on average (since this morning) about 20 seconds, and then it
is gone...running tcpserver with -H -R, there is a caching DNS server running
on the pent-133, and lookups go quite fast (IMO), and UUnet handles our DNS
table...Any ideas guys?

Or a better question is how long should an SMTP connection take to form on 
machine which IP address range is in 192.168.3.x (and that range is listed
in tcp.smtp.cdb)...<blink>

-Bill





On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Eric Dahnke wrote:

> I understand the pros and cons of each, but am interested in knowing if
> there is anyone on this list who thinks instant messaging has a chance
> of upseating smtp.

This is a silly question. They are completely different. SMTP is a
store-and-forward protocol. IM is not. QED.

-- 
Todd A. Jacobs
Network Systems Engineer






Hi, I'm setting up qmail on a machine which will need virtual domain support 
for some of his customers.  I've run into a snag however.

I need to still allow local mbox clients such as pine, etc. to read mail, as 
well as allow virtual users to download their mail via POP3.

Is there any solution for this, besides patching local clients, recompiling, 
etc., or using maildir2mbox?

Essentially I wonder if there's a virtual domain plugin similar to vchkpw 
which will support the mbox format.  vchkpw would be perfect for my needs if 
it were not for this requirement.

The only methods I see of solving this are rather kludgey (sp?):

a) use vchkpw with qmail-local and qmail-pop3d with Maildir format, and run 
something like fetchpop to move the mail to /var/spool/mail for the benefit 
of local clients (this is really a bad idea).

b) run vchkpw with qmail-local and qmail-pop3d -- on a different port # -- 
and run fetchpop to move the mail to /var/spool/mail, where local clients 
and another pop3 daemon, such as qpopper, could access it.

There must be a better way.  Can anyone offer advice?

Thanks much.

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com




We would like to set up a subdomain on our system, say, 'fwd.example.com'.
When mail gets sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it gets rewritten to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (along with some other headers) and resent.

My guess on how to do this is:

* Create a 'forwarder' user
* Put '.fwd.example.com:forwarder' in virtualdomains
* Create 'forwarder's .qmail file to execute a script to rewrite and resend.

At that point, the script can validate the destination e-mail address (this
is a subscriber service), do whatever...

My questions are: will this work? Is this the best way to do it? If not,
what is? Any suggestions, on- or off-list, are welcome.

/pg
-- 
Peter Green
Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




This may be a dumb question but this has me baffled.

defaulthost is set to my node provided by my ISP. This was tested as per 
the FAQ on my qmail machine and workes perfectly. ie mail sent is rewritten 
as [EMAIL PROTECTED] when sent as " echo to: me | qmail-inject".

If I try to send an email, even a local one, from Eudora, the to: or from: 
headers are not rewritten.

I am stuck with Sendmail until I can sort this one out. It's driving me mad!

Regards, carrott.





The Net:POP3 login method expects to get a message count back after a 
successful login. Qmail's pop3d does not provide a message count, so 
it's impossible to tell if login succeeded (-> login() always returns 
as a "fail"). Is there a patch available to qmail's pop3d to return 
the number of messages after a successful login?

Thanks,
jon

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Jon Rust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sat, 23 Oct 1999:
> The Net:POP3 login method expects to get a message count back after a 
> successful login. Qmail's pop3d does not provide a message count, so 
> it's impossible to tell if login succeeded (-> login() always returns 
> as a "fail"). Is there a patch available to qmail's pop3d to return 
> the number of messages after a successful login?

I haven't actually verified this in practice, but it looks like the
Net::POP3 module will return <undef> if the login (or pass) command
fails.  If the login is successfull, it will return either 0 or the
number of messages, if that was given in the password reply.

So you don't need to look for patch to pop3d, instead in the perl
script you should be checking for a return value of <undef> instead
of non-zero to indicate login failure.  Not doing this will give you
a "failed login" even on servers which do give the message count, but
the mailbox just happened to be empty.


Hope this helps,
Mikko
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Mikko H�nninen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sun, 24 Oct 1999:
> So you don't need to look for patch to pop3d, instead in the perl
> script you should be checking for a return value of <undef> instead
> of non-zero to indicate login failure.

Oops, I meant of course "not true", not "non-zero".


Mikko
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Jon Rust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The Net:POP3 login method expects to get a message count back after a 
> successful login. Qmail's pop3d does not provide a message count, so 
> it's impossible to tell if login succeeded (-> login() always returns 
> as a "fail"). Is there a patch available to qmail's pop3d to return 
> the number of messages after a successful login?

Qmail's pop3d conforms to the rfc (1939).  Net::POP3 attempts to snarf 
the number of messages from a comment after the +OK response to PASS,
but if that fails it issues a STAT and gets the number that way.

In short, I don't see a problem here[*].  This test give the correct
result when run against a pop3d server:

  perl -MNet::POP3 -le '$p=Net::POP3->new("pop.example.com");
     print $p->login("username","password");'


[*] Parsing a comment is reckless, but isn't a problem when the server 
    is pop3d.

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