qmail Digest 7 Nov 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 813
Topics (messages 32580 through 32597):
Re: mailquotacheck and quota.patch
32580 by: Andres
32581 by: Benjamin de los Angeles Jr.
32590 by: Andres
Web Interface
32582 by: J. Adams
Re: qmail in SCO
32583 by: Markus Wuebben
Usage of /var/qmail/users/assign
32584 by: Todd A. Jacobs
cdb owned by root?
32585 by: Todd A. Jacobs
best way to handle postmaster
32586 by: David Harris
32588 by: Bruno Wolff III
32589 by: David Harris
Qmail and Webmail
32587 by: Nik Gibson
Re: ezmlm problems
32591 by: Frederik Lindberg
Re: X-Face headers
32592 by: Russell Nelson
A different kind of problem
32593 by: Wal Haidar
Re: Qmail - Startup and POP3 Problems
32594 by: dd
Re: quick question re: starting with rblsmtpd
32595 by: dd
silly question? maybe...
32596 by: dd
Pop/Single-UID based POP3/problem
32597 by: J�rgen Skogstad
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I know how to use it, thanks, but I would know if there's any option to send
back the messages that couldn't be delivered (using mailquotacheck).
As there is no manual of quota.patch I don't know how to use it.
>
> mailquotacheck works fine without any quota patch for Qmail.
> Just put, "|/path/mailquotacheck.sh" (ignore the quotes) in
> your .qmail file.
>
> On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 10:22:08AM +0100, Andres Mendez wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > I've installed mailquotacheck, but I would like that when a message
can't be delivered (because exceeds the quota) it is sent back to the
sender.
> >
> > I've seen that exists a patch, quota.patch, which is supposed to do
this. Is there a manual or whatever on how to use it, select the quota...
because I can only download the patch with no instructions.
>
>
mailquotacheck does that, it bounces e-mails when the
recipient exceeded his quota. aside from that, i don't
see why you would want any special configuration.
On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Andres wrote:
> I know how to use it, thanks, but I would know if there's any option to send
> back the messages that couldn't be delivered (using mailquotacheck).
>
> As there is no manual of quota.patch I don't know how to use it.
>
> >
> > mailquotacheck works fine without any quota patch for Qmail.
> > Just put, "|/path/mailquotacheck.sh" (ignore the quotes) in
> > your .qmail file.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 10:22:08AM +0100, Andres Mendez wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > I've installed mailquotacheck, but I would like that when a message
> can't be delivered (because exceeds the quota) it is sent back to the
> sender.
> > >
> > > I've seen that exists a patch, quota.patch, which is supposed to do
> this. Is there a manual or whatever on how to use it, select the quota...
> because I can only download the patch with no instructions.
> >
> >
>
>
>
It's true, sorry. I checked it using the same e-mail for RCPT and FROM.
Mailquotacheck works OK.
----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin de los Angeles Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Andres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: QMail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: mailquotacheck and quota.patch
>
> mailquotacheck does that, it bounces e-mails when the
> recipient exceeded his quota. aside from that, i don't
> see why you would want any special configuration.
>
> On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Andres wrote:
>
> > I know how to use it, thanks, but I would know if there's any option to
send
> > back the messages that couldn't be delivered (using mailquotacheck).
> >
> > As there is no manual of quota.patch I don't know how to use it.
> >
> > >
> > > mailquotacheck works fine without any quota patch for Qmail.
> > > Just put, "|/path/mailquotacheck.sh" (ignore the quotes) in
> > > your .qmail file.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 10:22:08AM +0100, Andres Mendez wrote:
> > > > Hello.
> > > >
> > > > I've installed mailquotacheck, but I would like that when a message
> > can't be delivered (because exceeds the quota) it is sent back to the
> > sender.
> > > >
> > > > I've seen that exists a patch, quota.patch, which is supposed to do
> > this. Is there a manual or whatever on how to use it, select the
quota...
> > because I can only download the patch with no instructions.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Has anyone seen a web POP3 client that WORKS with the original qmail
pop3 daemon from QMail 1.2 ??? I have tried AtDot (www.atdot.org), It
cant login to the server, I tried phpop, it cant log in to the server,
and everything else is for IMAP.
By the way, I am using the single UID virtual users configuration, and I
have the latest PHP3 installed,
I think its 3.1.12. I believe PHPLIB is not compatible with PHP4.02b
which I had installed. Server is Apache 1.3.9, MySQL is 3.21.19, Qmail
is 1.2, the kernel is 2.034 if you can help I would really appreciate
it.
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Jon Adams
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Luis Bezerra wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> Anyone knows qmail running in SCO UNIX?
BTW: Does anyone know where I can get precompiled binaries of the gcc +
libs for SCO?
later,
markus
>
>
>
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I'm not 100% sure I understand the difference in intended usage between
setting up a ~/alias/.qmail-whatever file and setting up a virtual user in
/var/qmail/users/assign. As far as I can tell, the former uses forwarding,
whereas the latter is acting like a true alias.
Am I understanding this correctly? If so, what are the practical
implications? They seem almost interchangeable to me.
--
Todd A. Jacobs
Network Systems Engineer
My /var/qmail/users/ files (assign and cdb) are owned by root:root. The
system seems to work fine in that configuration, but I wanted to know if
those were the proper permissions, or if those files are supposed to be
owned by the qmail group instead.
--
Todd A. Jacobs
Network Systems Engineer
Hi,
I'm kind of tired of having double bounces end up in the root mailbox, so I'd
like to setup some way to have the postmaster account handle these
automatically. Right now I don't even look at them, so I could just /dev/null
them, but I'd like to do something slightly better. I know that the RFC's state
that [EMAIL PROTECTED] should come to a human operator.
Here is what I'm thinking...
How about a autoresponder at the postmaster account which simply replies saying
"to speak to a live human operator, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
/dev/null's the message. This way humans sending e-mail to the postmaster
account don't end in frustration.. and automated mailings will either be not
replied to (because there is no return-path) or will get punished with an
e-mail because they didn't properly set their return-path.
Does this sound right? Any chance of creating a mail loop here?
Could I just use the "bouncesaying" program to do this, or do I have to write
my own little autoresponder? Another way of saying this: what happens when you
bounce a double bounce?
Or do I care to much and should just /dev/null postmaster, as it's not really
any better than what I have now.
- David Harris
Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services
On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 04:05:15PM -0500,
David Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[He doesn't want to see double bounces.]
>
> How about a autoresponder at the postmaster account which simply replies saying
> "to speak to a live human operator, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
> /dev/null's the message. This way humans sending e-mail to the postmaster
> account don't end in frustration.. and automated mailings will either be not
> replied to (because there is no return-path) or will get punished with an
> e-mail because they didn't properly set their return-path.
There isn't any point in doing this for double bounces. Double bounces are
caused when both the recipient and sender addresses are munged. No automated
response to a double bounce is going to be useful. At our site I estimate
80-90% of the double bounces are from spam. The others are caused by our
users sending out email (to bogus addresses) with bogus return addresses
(typically typos).
If you aren't going to look through the messages and try to figure out if
one of your users has something set up wrong and let them know about it,
it should be pretty safe to delete double bounces. Though you might want
to look at ones that don't have any received headers indicating they came
from outside your network, since those are not likely to be spam.
>
> Does this sound right? Any chance of creating a mail loop here?
Who would you even be replying to? It is certainly possible to create a loop
here if you do something wrong.
Bruno Wolff III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> There isn't any point in doing this for double bounces. Double bounces are
> caused when both the recipient and sender addresses are munged. No automated
> response to a double bounce is going to be useful. At our site I estimate
> 80-90% of the double bounces are from spam. The others are caused by our
> users sending out email (to bogus addresses) with bogus return addresses
> (typically typos).
>
> If you aren't going to look through the messages and try to figure out if
> one of your users has something set up wrong and let them know about it,
> it should be pretty safe to delete double bounces. Though you might want
> to look at ones that don't have any received headers indicating they came
> from outside your network, since those are not likely to be spam.
[snip]
I just didn't want to end up ignoring any message sent by a real user to the
postmaster address. Since they would have a real return path, they would get a
reply. In talking about the postmater address, RFC 822 says: "Mail sent to that
address is to be routed to a person responsible for the site's mail system or
to a person with responsibility for general site operation." I didn't want to
violate that.
But setting something up sounds like too much work for too little gain, so I'll
just /dev/null all the postmaster e-mails.
- David Harris
Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services
I can't seem to get qmail to work with webmail. Does anyone have any
experience with Webmail?
When I start webmail up it runs on port 6789. I can hit the port but
when I try to log in I get "document contains no data".
It works fine on another machine I have running sendmail so I think it
has something to do with qmail.
Any help would much appreciated.
Or if there is a different type of Webmail package for qmail that I
should run instead I can do that.
Thanks
-Nik-
On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 09:47:52AM +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
> > When I create a list with:
> >
> > ezmlm-make -rdugm -5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
> > /var/qmail/ezmlm/test \
> > /var/qmail/ezmlm/.qmail-test \
> > ronald-test \
> > wiplinger.org
I assume 'wplinger.org' is a virtual domain owned by 'ronald' and that you've
tested that mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is handled by ~ronald/.qmail-ronald,
and that it arrives there.
The list name should be 'test', not 'ronald-test', and after ezmlm-make, you
need:
echo "ronald-test" > /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/inlocal
Also, /var/qmail/ezmlm is a funny directory. The list should be created in
the home dir of 'ronald' and everything owned by 'ronald', i.e. if you
do it as root, you need to chown -R the listdir.
> > eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/digist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/mod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If these worked, you made the typos in the E-mail, not in the commands.
Again, if you did this as root, you need to:
chown -R ronald /var/qmail/ezmlm/test
> > Maybe I need to put a reference in /var/qmail/users/assign, but if which
> > one?
> > +wiplinger-org-test:popuser:103:103:/var/qmail/ezmlm/test:::
> > would come in my mind
Depends on your /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains. if that has:
wiplinger.org:ronald
you need a
+ronald:ronald:103:103:/var/qmail/ezmlm/test:::
> > In the second step I would like to use ezmlm as a special autoreply with
> > alias names. It came into my mind, when I read the docs, that it let you
> > send single messages of the archive. E.g, some alias name like
> > product-2345 will send back the message about this product, which I have
test-get-2345 will send back message 2345 from the archive, but why go to
the trouble of using ezmlm when all you want is an autoreply?
it's trivial to write a perl script to interpret 'product-12345' and return
file ...../123/45. Just remeber to assure that 12345 is only digits, otherwise
you risk creaing a security hole.
In general, send ezmlm questions to the ezmlm list. You will not get a reply
on the qmail list.
To join the ezmlm list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To see FAQ and
archives, check www.ezmlm.org or mirrors.
--
-Sincerely, Fred
Fred Lindberg, Inf. Dis., WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA
David L. Nicol writes:
> Is there any way to see these if you don't have XFmail? Would
> a preprocessor that converts them into attached inline MIME gifs
> be too too too tricky?
Probably not.
> Pestering Mozilla.org wish list to replace the Customizable N-Thing
> with the X-Face would result in much greater popularity of X-Faces,
Netscape (or Mozilla if you wish) Email *ought* to present the X-Face
header. It can presume that it's running in graphical mode, so why
not?? The curious thing is that Jamie Zawinski didn't put it in even
though "his" Lucid Emacs (now X-Emacs) had them.
Yes, wider support for X-Face would be better.
--
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Helo All,
I have a problem and not too sure how to go about solving it.
We have an ezmlm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] which has been running
fine for a long time.
We would like to outsource xyz.com and run a free email package
on it.
Now due to this free email (which we dont have much control over),
we're expecting some problems such as when a user wants to subscribe
to this mailing list.
What will happen is mail destined to xyz.com will be sent to the
outsourced "free email" server. We will have an account on there
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which will be forwarded to our original server [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(we will change the configs etc on the original server -- also we change
the outgoing fields using ezmlm to make it appear as if its still coming
from xyz.com)
The problem is when a user wants to subscribe.
He/she sends a subscription request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (we can forward
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). So, ezmlm handles it correctly
and sends a reply back to the user asking them to reply to that
email.
Now that email will have a REPLY-TO field as
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
so a user cant reply to this cause no such user exists on the now
free email package etc. the message will just get bounced back.
If there was a way to change the field only for subscription requests
such that the reply-to contains email.xyz.com instead of xyz.com ??
Im not sure what to do about this. I have one or two ideas but
im wondering if anyone has anymore to suggest.
Any suggestions would be greatly apreciated
wal
> 1� - The POP3 service is not initializing on startup, a have to go to the
> /etc/rc.d/init.d and manually start qmail-pop3d.init (./qmail-pop3d.init start)
errm, are You sure You added the command starting qmail-pop3d in Your
startup script?
> 2� - When I test the POP3 service, after I start it manually, telneting the
> POP3 port (telnet 192.168.100.1 110) this is what I receive:
>
> -------------------------
>
> [root@exion /root]# telnet 192.168.100.1 110
> Trying 192.168.100.1...
> Connected to 192.168.100.1.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> +OK <1405.941834174@checkpassword>
> user mike
> +OK
> pass 1234
> -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir
> Connection closed by foreign host.
has that user a maildir called Maildir and are all the rights ok?
dd
> |>here's the whole script...short answer is csh:
> |>
> |>#!/bin/sh
> |
> | That's the problem: you're using Bourne shell syntax in the C Shell.
> | My csh skills are rusty; I can't remember how to redirect stderr.
>
> In his case, I think he needs to replace:
>
> 2>&1 |
>
> with:
>
> |&
i had the same question and had this answer:
You can use this notation
command >& file_name
but this will stderr AND stdout to the same file. stderr comes to the
beginning of the file and the rest is stdout.
btw the operator mentioned above (|&) didn't work in my tcsh and
csh. maybe the versions are different, dunno...
love, peace etc
dd
hi
errm, why does qmail let EVERY user has his/her own mailing list (the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] thing i mean). whatif every user creates a mailing
list and floods the server with thousands of mail this way? is there a way
to prevent this?
thanks,
love & peace and stuff,
dd
Kindest,
I am having some problems with the setup provided
from Paul Greg. I get these errors in the log when
trying to get incoming mail routed to the users
mailbox;
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.322851 new msg 708801
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.323160 info msg 708801: =
bytes 822 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 4445 uid 7791
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.334169 starting delivery 5: =
msg 708801 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.334456 status: local 1/10 =
remote 0/20
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.366126 delivery 5: failure: =
Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.366417 status: local 0/10 =
remote 0/20
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.386940 bounce msg 708801 qp =
4448
Nov 7 11:20:53 enterprise qmail: 941970053.388313 end msg 708801
However.. all seems to be in order;
enterprise:/var/qmail# more users/assign=20
=3Dtest-net-user:popuser:888:888:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/test:::
enterprise:/var/qmail#=20
Beneath are the permissions on the various dirs and
files;
enterprise:/var/qmail# ls -l
total 10
drwxr-sr-x 2 alias qmail 1024 Nov 7 00:25 alias
drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 7 00:14 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:19 boot
drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 7 10:20 control
drwxr-xr-x 3 root qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:31 doc
drwxr-xr-x 10 root qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:19 man
drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:18 popboxes
drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail 1024 Nov 6 20:19 queue
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root qmail 204 Nov 7 00:57 rc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 1024 Nov 7 10:10 users
enterprise:/var/qmail# =20
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes# ls -l
total 1
drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:19 test-net
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes#=20
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net# ls -l
total 1
drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:20 user
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net#=20
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user# ls -la
total 4
drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:20 .
drwx------ 3 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:19 ..
-rwx------ 1 popuser popuser 11 Nov 7 11:20 .qmail
drwx------ 2 popuser popuser 1024 Nov 7 11:19 Maildir
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user#=20
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user# more .qmail=20
./Maildir/
enterprise:/var/qmail/popboxes/test-net/user#=20
What have I done wrong?? Can anyone point out why this is
not working. I am trying to get support for multiple pop3
boxes without having to set up individual user accounts on
this system.
I have changed the domain name and user.. so test.net is
not the correct domain.. however; all mail delivery worked
fine before I begun to implement this.=20
Would apriciate any input!
Have a real nice weekend..
Kindest,
J=F8rgen
