qmail Digest 25 Nov 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 830

Topics (messages 33524 through 33593):

Solaris-Qmail
        33524 by: Ali Parlar
        33531 by: Anand Buddhdev
        33551 by: Russell Nelson

Status of queued email
        33525 by: Michael Boman
        33526 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
        33552 by: Russell Nelson

Re: Can I deny certien users?
        33527 by: Edward Castillo-Jakosalem

Re: Alias oddity
        33528 by: Peter Haworth
        33554 by: Brandon Ibach

Re: subdomaine adressing and qmail
        33529 by: H�ffelin Holger
        33543 by: Dave Sill

Re: Force mailqueue to send?
        33530 by: Anand Buddhdev
        33532 by: Steve Kapinos
        33533 by: thomas.erskine-dated-1071beae9be5271f.crc.ca
        33534 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
        33535 by: Petr Novotny
        33536 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
        33537 by: Adam D . McKenna
        33550 by: Russell Nelson
        33553 by: claudio.nieder.symmetrix.ch
        33587 by: dd

Re: [Q] Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) ???
        33538 by: Dave Sill

Re: sniffing
        33539 by: Scott D. Yelich

Getting blank email with every real email.
        33540 by: Joseph Malinowski
        33547 by: Dave Sill

Help!
        33541 by: Miki Shapiro

Re: Maildir as link
        33542 by: Dave Sill
        33544 by: Edward Castillo-Jakosalem
        33545 by: Soffen, Matthew
        33546 by: Chris Johnson
        33548 by: Jeff Hayward
        33592 by: Edward Castillo-Jakosalem
        33593 by: dd

Re: line feeds with carriage return
        33549 by: Russell Nelson

smtproutes and MX aliases
        33555 by: Matthew Harrell
        33556 by: mabrown.securepipe.com
        33557 by: Matthew Harrell
        33558 by: John R. Levine
        33559 by: Matthew Harrell
        33560 by: MikeINET.aol.com
        33562 by: Matthew Harrell
        33564 by: Chris Johnson
        33582 by: Matthew Harrell

HELP!!
        33561 by: MikeINET.aol.com
        33563 by: Tim Hunter
        33565 by: MikeINET.aol.com

Using qmail from to pull mail
        33566 by: Darvin Zuch
        33569 by: RaTao von J
        33585 by: Alexander Jernejcic

BSD/OS 4.01 resource limits
        33567 by: Mark Hoffman

Help with rblsmtpd
        33568 by: Julian Alvarez Venegas
        33571 by: Julian Alvarez Venegas
        33572 by: Julian Alvarez Venegas

remote 20/20
        33570 by: Abel Lucano

Qmail Send sleep time..
        33573 by: Philip Gabbert
        33574 by: Chris Johnson
        33581 by: Philip Gabbert

Re: Mail abuse in syslog
        33575 by: Todd A. Jacobs
        33576 by: John R. Levine
        33577 by: Russell Nelson

Re: Help with fastforward
        33578 by: Steve Kapinos

Hmmm... Corel Linux
        33579 by: Russell Nelson
        33580 by: Peter Cavender

help!!! failure notice
        33583 by: Gene Frederick F. Boniel
        33584 by: Michael Boman
        33591 by: Gene Frederick F. Boniel

quoted-printable encoding
        33586 by: Masuo Gates

Relay Problem
        33588 by: IT Personal

Re: LWQ translators wanted
        33589 by: dd

greeting failed
        33590 by: Frank Greven

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does anybody know how i compile qmail in my home directory without installing 
(it is a SunOs 5.6 system)?




On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 11:59:53AM +0100, Ali Parlar wrote:

That's easy:

cd to your home directory, unzip and untar the qmail distribution,
cd into qmail-1.03 directory and type "make". This will compile
qmail, but you can't really run it, unless you install it
according to the instructions.

> does anybody know how i compile qmail in my home directory without installing 
> (it is a SunOs 5.6 system)?

--
Anand




Ali Parlar writes:
 > does anybody know how i compile qmail in my home directory without installing 
 > (it is a SunOs 5.6 system)?

You need to be root.  There is no way to install qmail without being
root, because it needs to chown files.  That said, change conf-qmail
to be the directory under your home directory (e.g. /home/ali/qmail).
Then follow the instructions in INSTALL.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Is there a way I can see why mail are being queued (if the reciving host is
down, if the SMTP server is down and so on)?

Best regards
/Michael Boman

--
Michael Boman, Systems Engineer
WizOffice.Com Pte Ltd - 16 Tannery Lane, #06-00
Crystal Time Building, Singapore. 347778
Your Online Office Wizard - http://www.wizoffice.com/







On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 07:04:16PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> Is there a way I can see why mail are being queued (if the reciving host is
> down, if the SMTP server is down and so on)?

The qmail logfiles give quite verbose hints to these facts.

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/womanizer/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
|                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++




Michael Boman writes:
 > Is there a way I can see why mail are being queued (if the reciving host is
 > down, if the SMTP server is down and so on)?

No.  It's a secret.  You can't look in the log files and they won't
tell you exactly why the delivery was deferred.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Michael Boman wrote:

> I want to get of some spammers mailinglist, but unfortinatly it is (almost)
> impossible. Can I add their e-mail to a file that deny's them from sending
> mail to the users on my domain?

Try control/badmailfrom. Just list the email addresses or hosts that send you
spams. Look at the FAQ for more info.


>
>
> Regards
> Michael Boman
>
> --
> Michael Boman, Systems Engineer
> WizOffice.Com Pte Ltd - 16 Tannery Lane, #06-00
> Crystal Time Building, Singapore. 347778
> Your Online Office Wizard - http://www.wizoffice.com/

--

Regards,

Edward Castillo-Jakosalem






Brandon Ibach wrote:
> Greetings...
>    I'm having mail bounce back to senders who are trying to reach an
> address in one of the domains on my qmail-1.03 server.  Below is a
> failure message I received when I tried sending to it myself.  The
> relevant lines from control files are:
> 
> rcpthosts: davidjfrank.com
> virtualdomains: davidjfrank.com:alias-djf
> 
>    And there is a file in alias' home directory called
> .qmail-djf-HRSpec which contains the proper delivery instructions.

Call the file .qmail-djf-hrspec

-- 
        Peter Haworth   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vagueness is one of those things...





Quoting Peter Haworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Brandon Ibach wrote:
> > Greetings...
> >    I'm having mail bounce back to senders who are trying to reach an
> > address in one of the domains on my qmail-1.03 server.  Below is a
> > failure message I received when I tried sending to it myself.  The
> > relevant lines from control files are:
> > 
> > rcpthosts: davidjfrank.com
> > virtualdomains: davidjfrank.com:alias-djf
> > 
> >    And there is a file in alias' home directory called
> > .qmail-djf-HRSpec which contains the proper delivery instructions.
> 
> Call the file .qmail-djf-hrspec
> 
   That did it... thanks!

-Brandon :)




Hi Pierre!
 
It's quite a difficult construction you have. I had to draw a picture first,
but I think I can solve it. On your main site you create a virtual domain
called bxl.prescom.fr. (You know how?!) In the directory all mail for
bxl.prescom.fr gets delivered you create a .qmail-default file with �forward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  . The last thing to
change is .qmail-toto in the directory prescom.fr-mail gets delivered to:
�forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   I think this
should work.
 
CU 
Holger
 
 

  -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von
Pierre L�onard
Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 24. November 1999 10:48
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: subdomaine adressing and qmail
  

Hi, 


I use qmail on the main site of my company, Prescom, and now I have to
install local mailboxes for the remote site. 
We have only one fixed IP address for the domain prescom.fr, at the main
site. 
When I send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and toto is on the remote site I
forward, with a .qmail file, the mail to the remote bal :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Then at the remote site I get the mail with fetchmail, pop3, and deliver it
localy with qmail. 
Ok 
Now I am on the remote site and I want to send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And tyty is at the main site. 
How can I sort this mail and put it in the output queue and keep the local
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
The discrimination based on the domain name is not enough 


So I declare the remote site as a subdomain : bxl.prescom.fr. 
So, when I am at bxl.prescom.fr I can send the mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that bxl.prescom.fr is the same IP addresse that
prescom.fr. OK 


But , If I am at the main site and I send  a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the
forward in the .mail don't  change the domain name of  the address 
and on the remote site a will reject the mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


So, I use formail to process the  "To: " address and pipe the mail to
sendmail -oi -t . But unfortunetly, sendmail Reprocess the "Cc" field and I
get multiple copies of the mail. 
So, I use the -i "Cc:" option of formail to avoid the copies  by replacing
the "Cc: " by a "Old-Cc: ". But, in that way the reader don't know who
receive the mail and can't use the "reply to all" of the mail reader. 


Ok I have no more solution at that moment, So If someone could help me.
Itwill be great. 


Sincerely. 

-- 

        La vie est belle                Pierre L�onard

Prescom                                 Tel : 01 30 85 55 61

http://www.leonard-pierre.nom.fr <http://www.leonard-pierre.nom.fr>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  


  
  
  





Pierre L�onard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
><html>
>&nbsp;
><p>Hi,

Hi. Try posting in plain text, and maybe you'll get a response.

-Dave




On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 11:47:50AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 06:44:48PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> > Is it possible to force qmail to try send all the messages in the queue?
> 
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok
> killall -ALRM qmail-send

BEWARE: "killall" has different meanings on different OS's. On
linux and FreeBSD, it sends the desired signal to the process named
on the command line. On Solaris, it sends a TERM signal to ALL
processes, effectively performing a shutdown.

It's better to suggest a more generic solution, like:

kill -1 <pid of qmail-send>

and let the user determine the pid of qmail-send themselves.

--
Anand




Another good reason to use daemontools...

Part of my init script...

  doqueue|alrm)
    echo "Sending ALRM signal to qmail-send."
    svc -a /var/lock/qmail/send

Sends an ALRM signal and forces the queue to process.

-----Original Message-----
From: Anand Buddhdev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 8:00 AM
To: Qmail
Subject: Re: Force mailqueue to send?


On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 11:47:50AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 06:44:48PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> > Is it possible to force qmail to try send all the messages in the queue?
>
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok
> killall -ALRM qmail-send

BEWARE: "killall" has different meanings on different OS's. On
linux and FreeBSD, it sends the desired signal to the process named
on the command line. On Solaris, it sends a TERM signal to ALL
processes, effectively performing a shutdown.

It's better to suggest a more generic solution, like:

kill -1 <pid of qmail-send>

and let the user determine the pid of qmail-send themselves.

--
Anand





On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 06:44:48PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> > Is it possible to force qmail to try send all the messages in the queue?
> 
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok
> killall -ALRM qmail-send

All you linux folks:  Please don't suggest using killall without warning.
It's not standard unix (so what?) and the only other place I've
encountered killall is on solaris, where it tries to kill *all* processes.

> Greetz, Peter.
> -- 
> Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/womanizer/pretending coder 
> |  
> | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
> |  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
> |                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
> 

-- 
"Life is much too important to be taken seriously."
Thomas Erskine        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>        (613) 998-2836





On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 08:35:26AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 06:44:48PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> > > Is it possible to force qmail to try send all the messages in the queue?
> > 
> > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok
> > killall -ALRM qmail-send
> 
> All you linux folks:  Please don't suggest using killall without warning.
> It's not standard unix (so what?) and the only other place I've
> encountered killall is on solaris, where it tries to kill *all* processes.

I thought of that the moment I pressed 'y' to send, and was in too much of
a hurry (busy life :( to fix it....

And yes, I _have_ shot myself in the foot on Solaris :)

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/womanizer/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
|                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++




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On 24 Nov 99, at 8:35, thomas.erskine-dated-1071beae9be5271f@crc wrote:
> All you linux folks:  Please don't suggest using killall without warning.
> It's not standard unix (so what?)

Uh? Since when is not *BSD a standard unix?

> and the only other place I've
> encountered killall is on solaris, where it tries to kill *all* processes.

Another reason to avoid SysV-based systems. :-)

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--
Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
                                                             [Tom Waits]




On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 01:38:42PM -0000, Petr Novotny wrote:
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> On 24 Nov 99, at 8:35, thomas.erskine-dated-1071beae9be5271f@crc wrote:
> > All you linux folks:  Please don't suggest using killall without warning.
> > It's not standard unix (so what?)
> 
> Uh? Since when is not *BSD a standard unix?

There is no standard unix. The semantics of killall vary among unices,
therefore Thomas is right to comment on my use of 'killall'.

> > and the only other place I've
> > encountered killall is on solaris, where it tries to kill *all* processes.
> 
> Another reason to avoid SysV-based systems. :-)

Redhat seems to call itself SysV-based, just like SuSE and Debian. I must say
I _hate_ it. But let's not have that discussion here :)

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/womanizer/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
|                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++




On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 08:35:26AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 06:44:48PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> > > Is it possible to force qmail to try send all the messages in the queue?
> > 
> > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok
> > killall -ALRM qmail-send
> 
> All you linux folks:  Please don't suggest using killall without warning.
> It's not standard unix (so what?) and the only other place I've
> encountered killall is on solaris, where it tries to kill *all* processes.

Erm, I've seen killall in a bunch of places including a FreeBSD box, so I
wouldn't say it's limited to just linux.

--Adam

> 
> > Greetz, Peter.
> > -- 
> > Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/womanizer/pretending coder 
> > |  
> > | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
> > |  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
> > |                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
> > 
> 
> -- 
> "Life is much too important to be taken seriously."
> Thomas Erskine        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>        (613) 998-2836
> 




Michael Boman writes:
 > Is it possible to force qmail to try send all the messages in the queue?

Yes.  Send qmail-send an alarm signal.  Under Linux (not Solaris!!) you:

    killall -A qmail-send

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




Hi,

> > killall -ALRM qmail-send
> 
> All you linux folks:  Please don't suggest using killall without warning.

and IRIX folks. It happened to me, used to the IRIX behaviour,
to bring down an HP-UX 9 workstation.

                                claudio
-- 
Claudio Nieder,Symmetrix AG,Seefeldstr. 231,CH-8008 Z�rich phn:+411 381 8880
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.symmetrix.ch fax:+411 381 2127






> There is no standard unix. The semantics of killall vary among unices,
> therefore Thomas is right to comment on my use of 'killall'.

i think there is. the famous POSIX is a standart AFAIK but not all unixes
are POSIX compliant. andd the command that sends the TERM signal to all
the processes in Linux is called "killall5".


dd





<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just have installed qmail-1.03 at my RedHat 6.0 system.
> 
> But I can reveive mails.
> 
> The following is a example of returned mail.
> 
> What's the problem?
>
> ...
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

What evidence do you have that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid
mailbox?

-Dave




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er, is this supposed to be funny?

Scott


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Hello,

 I'm running Qmail 1.03 and vchkpw for my virtual domains. On 1 virtual
domain all the email accounts get a blank email with every "REAL" email they
get. I have other domains on this same machine and they run fine. It's only
on this one domain. I think the problem is in the .qmail-??? file, but I'm
not sure.

TIA.....

Thank You,
Joseph Malinowski, President
Internet Web Presence Providers
http://www.iwpp.com
Ph. 609.735.9550
Pager. 609.702.4401





"Joseph Malinowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm running Qmail 1.03 and vchkpw for my virtual domains. On 1 virtual
>domain all the email accounts get a blank email with every "REAL" email they
>get. I have other domains on this same machine and they run fine. It's only
>on this one domain. I think the problem is in the .qmail-??? file, but I'm
>not sure.

What do the logs show? How about the headers of the blank messages?
What's in the .qmail file?

-Dave




 Hi

 I want to run qmail on a local server, with a policy to relay:

 1. all mail whose recepient is on my domain (edited in
/etc/qmail/control/rcpthosts
2. all mail whose sender comes from a local pre-defined IP address

 In which control file do I impliment #2? How?
I found some of the  control files that the man page says are documented on
the qmail-send page
 simply aren't documented.

 Can anyone please help?
  I am not on the mailing list, so please reply directly

 Thanks
 Miki






David Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  It is possible to deliver mail to a symbolically linked Maildir.

Why don't you try it and see?

-Dave





Great! Thanks a lot guys! It worked.
BTW, is there an available list of Windoze MUA that support Maildir? I
have tried Eudora2.x and Netscape Communicator so far and it seems ok.
(Yeah, I have to accept that many of our clients use Windoze!)



Regards,

Edward Castillo Jakosalem

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Dave Sill wrote:

> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:17:31 -0500 (EST)
> From: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Maildir as link
> 
> David Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  It is possible to deliver mail to a symbolically linked Maildir.
> 
> Why don't you try it and see?
> 
> -Dave
> 





Maildir should be transparent to any POP users.  The only people who would
have difficulties are one who log directly onto the mail server via some
sort of shell account (and use PINE or MUTT, etc. for accessing their mail).

Your POP users can care less about the format on the server.  The POP3
Server handles the actual distribution to the PC POP client.

Matt Soffen 
        Applications Developer
        http://www.iso-ne.com/
==============================================
Boss    - "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers."
Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX."
Boss    - "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said 
             never mind."
                                       - Dilbert -
==============================================


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward Castillo-Jakosalem [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:22 AM
> To:   Dave Sill
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Maildir as link
> 
> 
> Great! Thanks a lot guys! It worked.
> BTW, is there an available list of Windoze MUA that support Maildir? I
> have tried Eudora2.x and Netscape Communicator so far and it seems ok.
> (Yeah, I have to accept that many of our clients use Windoze!)
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Edward Castillo Jakosalem
> 
> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Dave Sill wrote:
> 
> > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:17:31 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Maildir as link
> > 
> > David Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > >  It is possible to deliver mail to a symbolically linked Maildir.
> > 
> > Why don't you try it and see?
> > 
> > -Dave
> > 




On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 10:21:44PM +0800, Edward Castillo-Jakosalem wrote:
> 
> Great! Thanks a lot guys! It worked.
> BTW, is there an available list of Windoze MUA that support Maildir? I
> have tried Eudora2.x and Netscape Communicator so far and it seems ok.
> (Yeah, I have to accept that many of our clients use Windoze!)

Windows MUAs don't care or have any way of knowing what kind of mailbox format
you're using. They'll all work (to the extent that anything "works" on
Windows).

Chris




On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Edward Castillo-Jakosalem wrote:

   filesystem will be affected. I also cannot increase the /home quota. Can
   we instead link each user's Maildir to a different subdirectory so that
   the /home quota won't be jeopardized?
   Or does anyone had similar setup like this? 

If your system supports symlinks to directories you can point
~/Maildir to /var/mail/<user>/ or whatever.  The only caveat is that
all the subdirectories of /var/mail/<user>/ must be on a single file
system.

-- Jeff Hayward





I can't seem to check new emails when using Maildir. What I did was this.
Maildir in ~doods is a symlink to /var/spool/mail/doods.

If I send to doods, the mail goes in /var/spool/mail/doods. The only problem
now is that this user can't retrieve his emails. Are there any variables that I
should change for my users? What am I missing here?

As always, thanks a lot!

Jeff Hayward wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Edward Castillo-Jakosalem wrote:
>
>    filesystem will be affected. I also cannot increase the /home quota. Can
>    we instead link each user's Maildir to a different subdirectory so that
>    the /home quota won't be jeopardized?
>    Or does anyone had similar setup like this?
>
> If your system supports symlinks to directories you can point
> ~/Maildir to /var/mail/<user>/ or whatever.  The only caveat is that
> all the subdirectories of /var/mail/<user>/ must be on a single file
> system.
>
> -- Jeff Hayward

--

Regards,

Edward Castillo-Jakosalem








> I can't seem to check new emails when using Maildir. What I did was this.
> Maildir in ~doods is a symlink to /var/spool/mail/doods.

i may have misunderstood your situation but Maildir is a directory and
/var/spool/mail/doods is a txt file and the formats of mbox and maildir
are totally different. it's obvious that this linking won't solve the
problem. you should decide which one to use, the mbox format or the 
maildir format. maildir's said to be more stable but pine says that that
format's too slow, dunno. i prefer maildir anyway. 

> If I send to doods, the mail goes in /var/spool/mail/doods. The only problem
> now is that this user can't retrieve his emails. Are there any variables that I
> should change for my users? What am I missing here?

if the user's getting his/her mail via POP3 there shoudln't be any
prob. if he/she's using pine or elm or sth like that then read the FAQ, it
tells you what to do. there are two wrappers coming with qmail, pinq and
elq that convert the maildir format to mbox and run pine (or
elm) afterwards. i am using these with no probs...

hope this helps a bit and sorry about my bad language,
love, etc etc
dd





Bob Krzaczek writes:
 > I eventually decided to terminate my account with them, which took
 > several *repeated* requests until they finally got around with it.
 > When I killed my account with them, I told them (yet again) that it was
 > simply because of their refusal to implement a properly behaved mail
 > server.
 > 
 > They could not have cared less.  So, neither did I.
 > 
 > In summary: sixdegrees is lame.

Would it help if you knew they were considering switching to qmail?  I 
have to have hope for anyone with the sense to switch to qmail.  :)

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!





Hi,
        I'm working on a mail system for a company and AOL has agreed to give
them access through a backdoor to avoid the AOL filter rules.  I know it's
kind of a shady thing but you wouldn't believe the general stupidity I've seen
with filter rules.  Anyway, AOL would like all their email to go to 
partner.aol.com instead of the usual aol.com.  The problem with setting it
up in smtproutes like

        aol.com:partner.aol.com

is that partner.aol.com has only MX records and no A records so it bounces.  
I'm sure someone has asked this before but is there any way I can get it to
use partner.aol.com or am I forced to edit the code and make it check for MX 
records also?

Thanks

-- 
  Matthew Harrell                          All science is either physics or
  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.                       stamp collecting.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Matt,

If you can get them to give you an IP address you're set.  Use the IP
address in smtproutes instead of the name.

-Martin

On 24 Nov, Matthew Harrell wrote:
  : 
  : Hi,
  :         I'm working on a mail system for a company and AOL has agreed to give
  : them access through a backdoor to avoid the AOL filter rules.  I know it's
  : kind of a shady thing but you wouldn't believe the general stupidity I've seen
  : with filter rules.  Anyway, AOL would like all their email to go to 
  : partner.aol.com instead of the usual aol.com.  The problem with setting it
  : up in smtproutes like
  : 
  :         aol.com:partner.aol.com
  : 
  : is that partner.aol.com has only MX records and no A records so it bounces.  
  : I'm sure someone has asked this before but is there any way I can get it to
  : use partner.aol.com or am I forced to edit the code and make it check for MX 
  : records also?
  : 
  : Thanks
  : 

-- 
Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe Communications --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]






: If you can get them to give you an IP address you're set.  Use the IP
: address in smtproutes instead of the name.

Actually, I should have mentioned something about this.  The MX address 
actually points to four addresses and knowing how frequently AOL machines 
go down I'm hesitant to force all my mail through one of them.  It would
be fine if I could do

        aol.com:mx1.aol.com,mx2.aol.com

and I haven't tried it but I haven't see anything written about it.

-- 
  Matthew Harrell                          Programmer - a red-eyed mumbling
  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.                       mammal capable of conversing with
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]                 inanimate objects.




>Anyway, AOL would like all their email to go to 
>partner.aol.com instead of the usual aol.com.  The problem with setting it
>up in smtproutes like
>
>        aol.com:partner.aol.com
>
>is that partner.aol.com has only MX records and no A records so it bounces.  

I'm confused.  Is the mail supposed to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather
than [EMAIL PROTECTED], or are you just supposed to route the mail through the
partner MXes but leave the RCPT TO addresses unchanged?

In the latter case, unless you plan to send a truly stupendous amount of
mail, I'd just pick one of the partner MXes and put that in SMTProutes.

In the former case, you put aol.com in your local virtualdomains file
and write a little .qmail-default that remails everything to
"$[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Regards,
John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Sewer Commissioner
Finger for PGP key, f'print = 3A 5B D0 3F D9 A0 6A A4  2D AC 1E 9E A6 36 A3 47 

PS: Can we all do that to get around AOL's filters, too?





: I'm confused.  Is the mail supposed to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather
: than [EMAIL PROTECTED], or are you just supposed to route the mail through the
: partner MXes but leave the RCPT TO addresses unchanged?

: In the latter case, unless you plan to send a truly stupendous amount of
: mail, I'd just pick one of the partner MXes and put that in SMTProutes.

Well, it will be bunches of 200K recipient messages going out and I've know
AOL's mail routers so go down for over a day.  Since this is time sensitive
material I can't really get away with waiting for a machine to come back up.
I would much rather prefer to have at least two of them available.  Maybe I'll
just dig out the source to qmail-remote (?) and see if I can get it to check
for a MX record if an A record doesn't exist.

Yes, BTW, the mail will be routed to partner.aol.com but will still have the
form [EMAIL PROTECTED]

: PS: Can we all do that to get around AOL's filters, too?

No, according to them they need the IP's of the machines which will be sending
mail.  Of course I haven't actually tested that so I don't know what it does.

-- 
  Matthew Harrell                          Another Month's End:
  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.                      All Targets Met 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]                All Systems Working
                                           All Customers Satisfied
                                           All Staff Enthusiastic
                                           All Pigs Fed And Ready To Fly




In a message dated 11/24/99 3:49:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< : PS: Can we all do that to get around AOL's filters, too?
 
 No, according to them they need the IP's of the machines which will be 
sending
 mail.  Of course I haven't actually tested that so I don't know what it does.
 >>

What filters is it "getting past"?

___________________________
--Mike
"Life moves pretty quickly, if you don't stop and look around you might miss 
it"
        - Ferris Buler
___________________________




: : No, according to them they need the IP's of the machines which will be sending
: : mail.  Of course I haven't actually tested that so I don't know what it does.

: What filters is it "getting past"?

My contact there claims it gets past the internal ones the users set up - not
the ones that AOL sets up.  I've been given this stuff by the company I'm
working for but it sounds like they have a partnership agreement which, for
some reason, allows bypassing these rules.  I haven't actually tried it yet
due to this smtproutes problem and I don't have an AOL account to test it 
on that side.  It would be nice for the inordinately large number of people
who complain that they aren't getting our daily messages but yet have their
filters so restrictive that we can't even reply to them.  

-- 
  Matthew Harrell                          "Think of it as evolution in action"
  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 02:20:53PM -0500, Matthew Harrell wrote:
> 
> : If you can get them to give you an IP address you're set.  Use the IP
> : address in smtproutes instead of the name.
> 
> Actually, I should have mentioned something about this.  The MX address 
> actually points to four addresses and knowing how frequently AOL machines 
> go down I'm hesitant to force all my mail through one of them.  It would
> be fine if I could do
> 
>         aol.com:mx1.aol.com,mx2.aol.com
> 
> and I haven't tried it but I haven't see anything written about it.

Why don't you set up a name like aolmail.bittwiddlers.com pointing
round-robin-wise at all four of the IP addresses, and stick that name in
smtproutes?

Chris




: Why don't you set up a name like aolmail.bittwiddlers.com pointing
: round-robin-wise at all four of the IP addresses, and stick that name in
: smtproutes?

Good idea.  I hadn't thought of that one.  Hopefully they won't change the 
addresses often but it should work until I can think of something else I
might want to try.

Thanks

-- 
  Matthew Harrell                          To err is human,
  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.                       to purr feline.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Ok, I'm not sure what to do.

Can somebody please direct me?

I have installed qmail, procmail, fetchmail, and mutt.

What do I do now? I email the server but I don't get any email ( forwarder) 
and I can't getit via pine. No errors.

___________________________
--Mike
"Life moves pretty quickly, if you don't stop and look around you might miss 
it"
        - Ferris Buler
___________________________




Is qmail running?
what shows from ps (in relation to qmail)
what is in your logs?
does the email get delivered or bounced to sender?

Please More Info!

Thanks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 5:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: HELP!!
> 
> 
> Ok, I'm not sure what to do.
> 
> Can somebody please direct me?
> 
> I have installed qmail, procmail, fetchmail, and mutt.
> 
> What do I do now? I email the server but I don't get any email ( 
> forwarder) 
> and I can't getit via pine. No errors.
> 
> ___________________________
> --Mike
> "Life moves pretty quickly, if you don't stop and look around you 
> might miss 
> it"
>         - Ferris Buler
> ___________________________
> 




In a message dated 11/24/99 5:13:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Is qmail running?
 what shows from ps (in relation to qmail)
 what is in your logs?
 does the email get delivered or bounced to sender?
 
 Please More Info!
 
 Thanks >>

Yes it's running
[root@teen-web bin]# ps aux | grep qmail
root      1923  0.0  0.5  1112  352 ?        S    Nov23   0:00 
bin/qmail-inject 
qmailq    1924  0.0  0.5  1076  328 ?        S    Nov23   0:00 bin/qmail-queue
qmails    4027  0.0  0.6  1140  404 ?        S    Nov23   0:22 qmail-send
qmaill    4028  0.0  0.6  1096  412 ?        S    Nov23   0:20 splogger qmail
root      4029  0.0  0.5  1088  328 ?        S    Nov23   0:19 qmail-lspawn 
./Ma
qmailr    4030  0.0  0.5  1088  340 ?        S    Nov23   0:00 qmail-rspawn
qmailq    4031  0.0  0.5  1080  344 ?        S    Nov23   0:00 qmail-clean
root     15217  0.0  0.8  1244  512 pts/2    S    10:17   0:00 grep qmail

The logs say something about "Uh oh- the directory is writable"
and
that's it :)

Yes, there was a "local threat" error... I fixed that though. Right now there 
is no error. 

___________________________
--Mike
"Life moves pretty quickly, if you don't stop and look around you might miss 
it"
        - Ferris Buler
___________________________




Good Morning All.

I'm really hoping someone can help me.  I'm needing to set up a mail server
for a local school.  The nature of their internet connection is you're not
limited getting out on any port but comming in is blocked by firewall or nat
at the isp.
This means I can send out mail easily enough but how do I recieve email.  Is
there a way I can pull mail from an external mail server or somthing?


 Any help would be greatly appreciated

Darvin Zuch
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Canada





Hi,

search http://freshmeat.net/ for fetchmail
then download and read the README file.

good luck,
RaTao



On 24-Nov-99 Darvin Zuch wrote:
> Good Morning All.
> 
> I'm really hoping someone can help me.  I'm needing to set up a mail server
> for a local school.  The nature of their internet connection is you're not
> limited getting out on any port but comming in is blocked by firewall or nat
> at the isp.
> This means I can send out mail easily enough but how do I recieve email.  Is
> there a way I can pull mail from an external mail server or somthing?
> 
> 
>  Any help would be greatly appreciated
> 
> Darvin Zuch
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Canada

----------------------------------
E-Mail: RaTao von J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25-Nov-99
Time: 00:16:22
----------------------------------




hi David,
you can (or even should) use fetchmail ( 
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/) for that task. fetchmail is 
able to fetch (what a surprise) any number of pop3 accounts and 
pop3-multidrop and delivers the mail to a local MTA - which of course 
is qmail.

hope that helps
alexander
-- 
Alexander Jernejcic, E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IntelliNet EDV-Dienstleistungsges.m.b.H., Mariahilferstra�e 103, 1060 
Wien
Tel.: 595 23 88, Fax: 595 23 90

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urspr�ngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Am 11/25/99, 12:51:51 AM, schrieb "Darvin Zuch" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> zum Thema Using qmail from to pull mail:


> Good Morning All.

> I'm really hoping someone can help me.  I'm needing to set up a mail 
server
> for a local school.  The nature of their internet connection is you're 
not
> limited getting out on any port but comming in is blocked by firewall 
or nat
> at the isp.
> This means I can send out mail easily enough but how do I recieve 
email.  Is
> there a way I can pull mail from an external mail server or somthing?


>  Any help would be greatly appreciated

> Darvin Zuch
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Canada







Sorry if you got htis twice. I thought by sending a question, I would get
subscribed. Has anyone managed to set the file descriptors in BSD/OS 4.01 to
higher than 256, and get qmail to do more deliveries? Qmail won't let me set
conf-spawn to more than 125. In BSD/OS, this is not set in the login.conf
file, it's compiled in. So, I set FD_SETSIZE in /usr/include/sys/select.h to
1024, and it still does not work. As it is, I'm using at most 40% of the
real hardware limits. Called BSD/OS tech support, and they led me to what
I've done. I saw Johannes Erdfelt's patch to allow more deliveries, has this
been done on BSD/OS?

Thanks,

Mark Hoffman

Wall Street on Demand






I found out about qmail a few months ago and I installed it in a
production system basing myself on the excellent reference titled "Life
with qmail"; I use qmail's initialization script that comes in that
reference.  Lately, however, several users have complained about not
receiving email from certain places.  I investigated further and realized
that these places are those that have open relay configured in their
servers.  My question is, which /var/qmail/control file should I specify
to receive the emails from certain domains?
I appreciate your attention, thanks in advance.

Regards






Thanks Matthew for your response and accurate comments.

Regards





As I said before, thank you for your comments. However, Matthew's response
seems to me a little radical up to a point, in other words, inflexible,
because q mail represents, according to what I have read, the contrary. My
question stems from my conception of this excellent program and also from
my stepping into the users' shoes.

Thanks for reading this, I appreciate.

Regards





Hi

a)
I'm seeing noticeables delays in smtp connections
I'm running qmail 1.03 + df with tcpserver in a straightforward scheme in
one mailserver, with no daemontools:

My startup line is:
/bin/csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c120 -u7181 -g101 0 smtp \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd &

b)
Things works fine apparently; the only unusual thing is in maillog: the
status line ONLY shows remote 20/20, (i can't  see today remote 1/20,
2/20,and so on) 

Example:
Nov 24 18:04:33 ferro qmail: 943466673.515194 status: local 0/10 remote 20/20

c)
Maybe a problem with the queue?
 
I've checked permissions in queue/remote; it seems ok:
...
drwx------   2 qmails   qmail        4096 Nov 24 19:07 16/
drwx------   2 qmails   qmail        4096 Nov 24 19:04 17/
drwx------   2 qmails   qmail        4096 Nov 24 19:05 18/
drwx------   2 qmails   qmail        3072 Nov 24 18:58 19/
drwx------   2 qmails   qmail        4096 Nov 24 19:06 2/
drwx------   2 qmails   qmail        4096 Nov 24 19:05 20/
...

d) i don't see DNS problems in other services

Just  abnormal delays and only the "remote 20/20" as entry in status line
in the mail log...

Anyone saw this kind of things?
Thanks in advance for any help

Regards

---------------------------------------------------------------------
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 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]            Bernardo de Irigoyen 546, Piso 6
 Sistemas                       Buenos Aires (1072)
 http://www.ba.net              Tel +5411 4343 9975









I've noticed looking at my mail logs qmail-send run every 25 minutes. I was
wanting to know is there a way to decrease that sleep time? 25 minutes is a
rather long time especially is I'm trying to figure out the workings of
qmail. When I send mail via the 'mail' cmd or using qmail-inject, it gets
processed with the rest of the queue, and that can be upto 25minutes later!

Is there a way to shrink that time?

thnx..

Philip





On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 07:49:38PM -0700, Philip Gabbert wrote:
> 
> I've noticed looking at my mail logs qmail-send run every 25 minutes. I was
> wanting to know is there a way to decrease that sleep time? 25 minutes is a
> rather long time especially is I'm trying to figure out the workings of
> qmail. When I send mail via the 'mail' cmd or using qmail-inject, it gets
> processed with the rest of the queue, and that can be upto 25minutes later!
> 
> Is there a way to shrink that time?

As long as the permissions on your trigger aren't screwed up (and about every
three days someone posts a question here the answer to which is "the
permissions on your trigger are screwed up"), messages are processed as they're
queued. If yours are processed only every 25 minutes, make sure the permissions
on your trigger look like this:

su-2.03# ls -l /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger
prw--w--w-  1 qmails  qmail  0 Nov 24 21:58 /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger

Chris




thnx.. I looked all over the FAQs that I could find, and I didn't see
anything in there. I even tried to search the archive of the mailing list,
but wasn't successful.

Place this into the FAQ. Say something like:
First thing to check for most problems with qmail is trigger. It must have
permissions looking like:
etc.. 

This way you can direct people to the FAQs, and prevent them from posting on
the list ??

Thnx.. It fixed my problem..
Place a FAQ on this ;)

Philip

> From: Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:22 -0500
> To: Philip Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Qmail Send sleep time..
> 
> On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 07:49:38PM -0700, Philip Gabbert wrote:
>> 
>> I've noticed looking at my mail logs qmail-send run every 25 minutes. I was
>> wanting to know is there a way to decrease that sleep time? 25 minutes is a
>> rather long time especially is I'm trying to figure out the workings of
>> qmail. When I send mail via the 'mail' cmd or using qmail-inject, it gets
>> processed with the rest of the queue, and that can be upto 25minutes later!
>> 
>> Is there a way to shrink that time?
> 
> As long as the permissions on your trigger aren't screwed up (and about every
> three days someone posts a question here the answer to which is "the
> permissions on your trigger are screwed up"), messages are processed as
> they're
> queued. If yours are processed only every 25 minutes, make sure the
> permissions
> on your trigger look like this:
> 
> su-2.03# ls -l /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger
> prw--w--w-  1 qmails  qmail  0 Nov 24 21:58 /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger
> 
> Chris
> 





On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Subba Rao wrote:

> Why am I getting this message? All the outbound/inbound mail is
> transfering fine.

Somehow your IP address has ended up on the RBL. You are being actively
blocked as a spammer. If you are not a spammer, follow the directions to
have yourself removed from the RBL.

-- 
Todd A. Jacobs
Network Systems Engineer






>> Someone at mail-abuse.org came up with the idea of creating a list
>> to enable ISP's to "blacklist" their pools of dialups.

> Um, no.  ISPs aren't expected to report this themselves.  And the
> idea came about because they noticed more and more spam coming from
> dial-up IPs.

Actually, most of the IPs in the DUL were contributed by the ISPs
themselves.

> And at least on my system, it blocks far more spam than anything
> else I use, AND blocks far fewer legitemate connections than RBL or
> ORBS have.

I'd agree.  I block connections from systems in the RBL or MAPS RSS
(the non-insane service like ORBS) but I use a modified version of
rblsmtpd that I call "detour" that routes DUL mail into my spam traps.
I can confirm that far more than 99% of it is spam, and that the
annual amount of legit mail that arrives here directly from dialups
can be counted on my fingers.

If anyone wants the detour program, just ask.  It looks up the
incoming IP in an RBL-ish domain, and sets RELAYCLIENT to a string
from the command line if the IP matches.


-- 
John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail




Todd A. Jacobs writes:
 > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Subba Rao wrote:
 > 
 > > Why am I getting this message? All the outbound/inbound mail is
 > > transfering fine.
 > 
 > Somehow your IP address has ended up on the RBL. You are being actively
 > blocked as a spammer. If you are not a spammer, follow the directions to
 > have yourself removed from the RBL.

I'll bet Subba is dialling up to the net using ibm.net's dialups.
They're almost certainly to be on the DUL.  One of the people he's
trying to send email to is a DUL subscriber.  And a damn good idea
that is, too, if you look at the amount of spam that comes from
dialups.

The solution, if you're running qmail on a dialup box, is to insert a
wildcard smtproute pointing to ibm.net's SMTP server.  Like this (but
just guessing at ibm.net's SMTP server name):

echo ':mail.ibm.net' >/var/qmail/control/smtproutes

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!





I'm trying to grasp how fastforward should be implemented, but the man pages
are not dummy-proof enough for people like me.

Let me explain where I am going

I have a reasonable size /etc/aliases  file consisting of mail aliases
(mainly to give people addresses longer than the 8 character username limit)
and several include lines for basic mailing lists, like

applicationsales:       :include:/etc/applicationsales-list

>From reading fastfoward's man page.. it sounds like I should be modifying
the .qmail-default in ~alias to pipe through fastfoward?

How are lists like the above example handled in fastfoward?  Did fastforward
overwrite my system's existing newaliases binary?

Confused as usual with the basic INSTALL document...

-Steve




Hmmm... Corel Linux includes among its packages a
"qmail-corel_1.03-1254.deb".  I haven't finished downloading the whole
thing, but it sure looks like Corel Linux comes standard with qmail.
Hooray!

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!




If that is the case, I may very well ditch  RH for my co-lo...I have 
two floppies worth of "mods" to my base RH 6.1.  Does Corel include 
all the extra goodies: checkpasswd,ucspi-tcp,daemontools,etc??  Does 
the .deb extension mean they are using the Debian installer thingey?

Please keep us posted!

Pete

P.S. I worked for Corel in 92. They seemed to suffer from a chronic 
case can't-get-it-out-the-door-when-we-promised syndrome, but 
Cowpland is a sharp cookie. Maybe they can do better when other 
people write the code.

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russ nelson sed:
Hmmm... Corel Linux includes among its packages a
"qmail-corel_1.03-1254.deb".  I haven't finished downloading the whole
thing, but it sure looks like Corel Linux comes standard with qmail.
Hooray!

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Government schools are so
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | can outdo them. Homeschool!





People,
      Am just new here, just like to ask from you good ideas of whats the
problem/cause of my configuration wherein when i send a message from
remote machine .... it bounces and got this message below. Just wanna move
to Qmail from Sendmail... thanks. 8)

 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host,
it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 534 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO trinity.cebu.pilnet.com) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  by server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
Received: from localhost (janjan@localhost)
        by trinity.cebu.pilnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14259
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:15:37 +0800
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:15:37 +0800 (PHT)
From: "Gene Frederick F. Boniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII



                              "To Be or Not To Be."

                            Gene Frederick F. Boniel
                      HPS Software and Communications Corp.
                            Pilipino Internet - Cebu
                              Systems Administrator
                  
                  Home Page URL   : http://www.janjan.dorm.org   
                  Email me at     : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                  Call/Text me at :      0917-9203704
                  ICQ No.         :        16660287





Add your host (server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com) in the $QMAIL/control/local

Best regards
Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Frederick F. Boniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 25 November, 1999 16:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: help!!! failure notice
>
>
>
> People,
>       Am just new here, just like to ask from you good ideas of whats the
> problem/cause of my configuration wherein when i send a message from
> remote machine .... it bounces and got this message below. Just wanna move
> to Qmail from Sendmail... thanks. 8)
>
>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: failure notice
>
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host,
> it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6)
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: (qmail 534 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
> Received: from unknown (HELO trinity.cebu.pilnet.com)
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   by server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
> Received: from localhost (janjan@localhost)
>       by trinity.cebu.pilnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14259
>       for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:15:37 +0800
> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:15:37 +0800 (PHT)
> From: "Gene Frederick F. Boniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
>
>                               "To Be or Not To Be."
>
>                             Gene Frederick F. Boniel
>                       HPS Software and Communications Corp.
>                             Pilipino Internet - Cebu
>                               Systems Administrator
>
>                   Home Page URL   : http://www.janjan.dorm.org
>                   Email me at     : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                   Call/Text me at :      0917-9203704
>                   ICQ No.         :        16660287
>
>






but this are the hosts in my $QMAIL/control/locals :

localhost
server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com


and of course as well as my $QMAIL/control/rcpthost file.
am using redhat 6.0 and using procmail-3.13.1...with this ....
am planning to send it throught my $homedir/.qmail spoolfile.
i know how to setup this thing using procmail and sendmail but i 
wanna try qmail. anybody here? i need help.





 

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Michael Boman wrote:

> Add your host (server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com) in the $QMAIL/control/local
> 
> Best regards
> Michael
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gene Frederick F. Boniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, 25 November, 1999 16:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: help!!! failure notice
> >
> >
> >
> > People,
> >       Am just new here, just like to ask from you good ideas of whats the
> > problem/cause of my configuration wherein when i send a message from
> > remote machine .... it bounces and got this message below. Just wanna move
> > to Qmail from Sendmail... thanks. 8)
> >
> >  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: failure notice
> >
> > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com.
> > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> > addresses.
> > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host,
> > it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6)
> >
> > --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
> >
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Received: (qmail 534 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
> > Received: from unknown (HELO trinity.cebu.pilnet.com)
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >   by server.linux.cebu.pilnet.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0000
> > Received: from localhost (janjan@localhost)
> >     by trinity.cebu.pilnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14259
> >     for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:15:37 +0800
> > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:15:37 +0800 (PHT)
> > From: "Gene Frederick F. Boniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Message-ID:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >
> >
> >                               "To Be or Not To Be."
> >
> >                             Gene Frederick F. Boniel
> >                       HPS Software and Communications Corp.
> >                             Pilipino Internet - Cebu
> >                               Systems Administrator
> >
> >                   Home Page URL   : http://www.janjan.dorm.org
> >                   Email me at     : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >                   Call/Text me at :      0917-9203704
> >                   ICQ No.         :        16660287
> >
> >
> 





Hello,

        Is there a patch to automatically decode quoted-printable and
remove the:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

header?

(some of the users have odd ball japanese mail clients which have problems
with charset="iso-2022-jp" webmail becoming unreadable)

Thanks in advance,
Masuo






Hi,
I am trying to setup the the qmail-antirelay for my mail server. I did
exactly the same as mentioned on this documents.

http://qmail-docs.surfdirect.com.au/docs/qmail-antirelay.html


I have this entry on my /etc/tcp.smtp file 

202.51.69.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" 
:allow

and I did installed the  ucspi-tcp-0.84.tar.gz from the qmail ftp site. But
when I tried to send from other IP's than 202.51.69.* it works perfectly.

What do I do wrong here.

Thanx

KK


any suggestion pls.












> > errm and i can do my best for a turkish translation...
> 
> QMAIL KISS YOU!!11!!


eheh no way, that guy's totally dumb, you can't even compare him to
me man. some say he's actually a very smart person who made an extra lame
page and got millions of hits and became world-wide famous this way. a
local newspaper here said he demanded c.a. $50.000 from a TV station that
wanted to make an interiew with him.

i roflmao whenever i visit his holy page and i'm sorry about the way he
represents my country :/

love, peace etc,
dd





Hi,

our qmail server works pretty well. But since a few days ago we can't receive
mails from a special site. Thes use qmail too. Error message on remote site is

 Connected to x.x.x.x but greeting failed.
 I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.

Any ideas?


Thank,
Frank


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