qmail Digest 31 Dec 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 866

Topics (messages 34898 through 34938):

Re: Corel Linux ships with qmail installed, but not running
        34898 by: Robert Varga

Re: virtual domains in qmail/ezmlm?
        34899 by: Robert Varga
        34900 by: Anand Buddhdev
        34903 by: Robert Varga

Re: email names with dashes in them
        34901 by: bert hubert

maildircmd: passing filename to command's environment
        34902 by: Joost van Baal

Re: stopping the inward executable E- mail attachments in Qmail
        34904 by: Greg Owen
        34927 by: Arumugam Thiruppathi
        34928 by: Sam

Re: multilog
        34905 by: Russell Nelson
        34907 by: Van Liedekerke Franky

problems with upgrade
        34906 by: Geir H�gberg

Stopping remote outgoing mail?
        34908 by: Michael Boman
        34909 by: Petr Novotny

Re: performance and bounce questions
        34910 by: Dave Sill
        34914 by: Martin Lesser
        34916 by: Dave Sill
        34921 by: Martin Lesser

this list
        34911 by: J.Adams
        34913 by: Dave Sill
        34924 by: Troy Frericks
        34930 by: Russell Nelson
        34935 by: David Uzzell

Trying to start qmail.
        34912 by: Dean Channing
        34915 by: Adam McKenna

Re: Sore it for y2k and then resend it
        34917 by: Dustin Miller

Strange failures on QMAIL
        34918 by: Eric Davis
        34919 by: Paul Farber

Re: Quotas and qmail: file number
        34920 by: Jeff Hayward

San Francisco qmail Developers
        34922 by: Will Shatford
        34925 by: Troy Frericks

error 4.1.2
        34923 by: Samuel Dries-Daffner

Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Thank you for your comments]
        34926 by: Adam McKenna
        34931 by: Russell Nelson
        34933 by: dirk.power.net
        34934 by: Russell Nelson

Re: 1 call get 2
        34929 by: abu

How to configure....?
        34932 by: Yong Dae Won

bouncing messages.. but still recieving  mail
        34936 by: Cameron Arnott

UTC vs Local Time timestamps (Linux)
        34937 by: Peter Cavender

daemontools and qmailanalog
        34938 by: Van Liedekerke Franky

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On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> I installed Corel's Linux and there is a function in the xwindows client
> for starting q-mail. It will ask you the name of the server etc and install
> all existing users. It works great and is pretty hard to screw up.
> 
> I am having one problem though. When handing off mail to the server from a
> POP3 client it can take up to a couple of minutes. Retrieving mail is a
> couple of seconds?
> 
> Any ideas?

It is probably the same problem as I experienced. 

I experienced the following:


My machine was connected with dialup to the internet. It had a caching
DNS. If I was not connected to the internet all requests to the POP3 port
worked the following way: a long wait before the POP3 server greeted the
client. Afterward it worked normally. 

It was due to the long time to resolve a DNS query, since there was no
connection to the internet and the hint zones were in the DNS config, so
it tried to ask them. It of course took a long time to timeout all
connections to the unreachable hint servers.

The solution was to took out hints from the DNS if not connected to the
internet.

Robert Varga







> local part which ezmlm expects to see. It will contain "domain1" in your
> case. You have to change that to "forwarder-domain1-domain1". The
> alternative is to patch ezmlm with ezmlm-idx, which doesn't need you to
> fiddle with any files like this.
> 


It does need. I have ezmlm-idx from the potato package. It still needs
modifying the file inlocal.

Robert Varga





On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 12:46:18PM +0100, Robert Varga wrote:

> > local part which ezmlm expects to see. It will contain "domain1" in your
> > case. You have to change that to "forwarder-domain1-domain1". The
> > alternative is to patch ezmlm with ezmlm-idx, which doesn't need you to
> > fiddle with any files like this.
> 
> It does need. I have ezmlm-idx from the potato package. It still needs
> modifying the file inlocal.

Oops. I should have mentioned that ezmlm-idx doesn't need you to make
these changes ONLY if you use qmail >= 1.02. If you have qmail 1.01,
then you still need these changes.

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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Anand Buddhdev wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 12:46:18PM +0100, Robert Varga wrote:
> 
> > > local part which ezmlm expects to see. It will contain "domain1" in your
> > > case. You have to change that to "forwarder-domain1-domain1". The
> > > alternative is to patch ezmlm with ezmlm-idx, which doesn't need you to
> > > fiddle with any files like this.
> > 
> > It does need. I have ezmlm-idx from the potato package. It still needs
> > modifying the file inlocal.
> 
> Oops. I should have mentioned that ezmlm-idx doesn't need you to make
> these changes ONLY if you use qmail >= 1.02. If you have qmail 1.01,
> then you still need these changes.

I use ezmlm-idx version 0.53 + 0.313 and qmail 1.03 and it still needs me
to modify inlocal. Period. Otherwise subscription and other addresses
won't work. Or posting to the list. One of the two, I don't remember
exactly, only that I need to modify inlocal.

Robert Varga 





On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 01:01:57PM -0600, Brian Moon wrote:

> We use email addresses with dashes in them for mailing lists to detect spam.
> We get these in our default catch all mailbox.  This allows us an unlimited
> number of addresses for this purpose.  Plus when we start getting spam on
> one we can start bouncing it.

You can instruct qmail when building to use another character as a
separator.

Regards.

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    +---------------+  |                     - U N I X -
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Hello Len,

I've hacked the serialcmd.c file in your maildircmd-1.0.patch.
Changing 

  if (!stralloc_catulong0(&line,age,7)) die_nomem();
  env_put2("AGE",line.s);

  /* Initialize a substdio buffer. */
  substdio_fdbuf(&ssmess,read,fd,messbuf,sizeof messbuf);

into

  if (!stralloc_catulong0(&line,age,7)) die_nomem();
  env_put2("AGE",line.s);

  /* Put filename in env */ 
  env_put2("FILENAME",fnam.s);

  /* Initialize a substdio buffer. */
  substdio_fdbuf(&ssmess,read,fd,messbuf,sizeof messbuf);

makes maildircmd passing the filename of the currently
being processed message to the command it's running, using
the FILENAME environment variable. I think this is a
usefull additional feature. (For me it is :-)

BTW, command needs to combine PWD and FILENAME to 
contruct the full pathname of the file it's reading
on it's stdin. 

Could you consider adding this feature to maildircmd?

Kind Regards,


Joost van Baal






> The millennium change is not three days from now, but one 
> year and three days from now. The same goes for the
> century change, also.

        Yes.  It's very important to carefully hew to an arbirtrary date
which, by all best estimates we have now, is probably 4 years off anyway.  

> Please tell everyone you know.

        Please don't.  Everybody knows, nobody cares.

-- 
        gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]








Hi 



How should I stop all the incoming  executable Email attachments  thru Qmail
server. Could any one help me in configuring the same.



Thanx in advance

Thiru




On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Arumugam Thiruppathi wrote:

> Hi
> 
> 
> How should I stop all the incoming  executable Email attachments  thru Qmail
> server. Could any one help me in configuring the same.

Only by writing an external filter, and funneling all mail through the
external filter.

This is not, exactly, a trivial job, and will require extensive
modifications of your Qmail setup.  The specific steps are highly
dependent on your particular and unique Qmail configuration.  You'll have
to arrange for Qmail to divert all mail to an external program.  Then, you
will have to write this external program, that parses the message
according to RFC 2045, in order to detect attachments.  Afterwards, the
message needs to be reinjected into the mail queue, with the recipient
envelope address slightly altered so that the mail ends up being delivered
to its original recipient, somehow.

Depending on your particular qmail setup, this may be accomplished by
reconfigured control/smtproutes, control/virtualdomains, or by having a
second instance of Qmail compiled and running, or via any one of several
other ways.  The right approach depends, again, upon your individual
situation, which only you know.

Hopefully you just didn't realize that you have to implement this within
the next 24 hours.  You should've started on this at least a month ago.
Mail servers, generally, do not care -- and should not care -- about
message contents (except in very few isolated situations) so implementing
something like that would clearly require major work.






Van Liedekerke Franky writes:
 > Hi,
 > 
 > first of all: Merry Xmas and a very happy NewYear to all  !!
 > 
 > Now I have a small boring question: does there exist any tool or manner to
 > select a timewindow out of a multilog file (for ex. the last 5 minutes) or
 > do I need to write one myself?

With a few minor changes you could make good use of my qmail-mrtg
script.  It only works with daemontools-0.53, not -0.61.

    http://www.crynwr.com/mrtg/

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




I'm using something like this now, but perl could understand the old
timestamps of 0.53, not those of 0.61. Now I have to take the 9th to 17th
character from the new timestamps and convert these back to decimals, so I
can compare with the usual perl timestamps. I find this kind of slugish and
am looking for a better way.

Franky

> ----------
> From:         Russell Nelson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:         Thursday, December 30, 1999 3:43 PM
> To:   'qmail list'
> Subject:      Re: multilog
> 
> Van Liedekerke Franky writes:
>  > Hi,
>  > 
>  > first of all: Merry Xmas and a very happy NewYear to all  !!
>  > 
>  > Now I have a small boring question: does there exist any tool or manner
> to
>  > select a timewindow out of a multilog file (for ex. the last 5 minutes)
> or
>  > do I need to write one myself?
> 
> With a few minor changes you could make good use of my qmail-mrtg
> script.  It only works with daemontools-0.53, not -0.61.
> 
>     http://www.crynwr.com/mrtg/
> 
> -- 
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your
> country
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people
> to
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry
> M.
> 




Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade from version 3.1.2 of vchkpw and to the new 3.4.10a
vpopmail, but something goes wrong it seems.
It's said that it should generate the vpasswd.cdb files automagically during
install, but it doesn't...just leaves the normal vpasswd files there, and
this gives problems of course.

I have not stated that it should use mysql or anything, so i don't think the
problem would be there.
this last time i just installed as follows:
./configure
make clean
make
make install-strip (could it be here?)


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Is it possible to stop/paus all outgoing mail for a while? (everything
that isnt taken care of local or virtualdomain)

Best regards
 Michael Boman

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On 30 Dec 99, at 23:13, Michael Boman wrote:

> Is it possible to stop/paus all outgoing mail for a while? (everything
> that isnt taken care of local or virtualdomain)

You want to use holdremote patch if you want to do that without 
restarts.

Otherwise, you might want to set concurrencyremote to 0, stop 
qmail-send, wait for all the qmail-remotes to die, and run 
qmail-start. (Yuck.)

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"Marsha Petry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>1.  Somebody mentioned a Japanese website that has performance stats
>(http://www.kyoto.wide.ad.jp/mta/eval1/).

That was me.

>That same writer mentioned that
>qmail did good on the comparisons, but honestly, I don't know what the
>graphs mean just looking at the axis values.  Can anyone give me a
>description?  I understand the values (DNS queries/answers,SMTP syn & fin),
>but to me these would be stats I would expect for an OS or maybe machine.
>What does it mean as far as MTA.. the more DNS queries/time an MTA sends out
>the better? etc...

Each MTA in those tests delivered the same set of test messages. What
you should look at is the shape of the curve and the time-to-
completion. Higher DNS and SMTP rates is generally associated with
higher performance, but a clever MTA can avoid extraneous DNS lookups
and minimize SMTP connections, so that doesn't tell the whole story.

>2.  Is DSNs vs. VERPs something I should worry about?  What I could gather
>from the thread is that some MTAs send back DSN-formatted bounces and others
>send VERP-formatted...is that right?  Can qmail process both as easily?
>Will I have to write additional code to process DSNs?  or is "a bounce is a
>bounce" to qmail no matter which format it comes in as?.

DSN is basically a set of standards for bounce messages. It's big and
clumsy, but that's not the real problem with it. The real problem is
that not all MTA's support it. If it was universal, it'd be OK. But
that's not going to happen any time soon.

VERP is a mechanism for processing bounces reliably, independent of
the format of the bounce. As long as an MTA sends bounces to the
envelope return path (ERP), as 99% of them do, VERP will correctly
identify the bouncing address.

VERP works with both DSN and non-DSN bounces.

DSN-based bounce handlers only work with DSN bounces.

-Dave




Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Marsha Petry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >1.  Somebody mentioned a Japanese website that has performance stats
> >(http://www.kyoto.wide.ad.jp/mta/eval1/).
> 
> That was me.

Perhaps I'm a little bit stupid but could you tell me/us how we can get
some more information out of the above site? The only result were
different japanese signs. Using another charset than japanese resulted
in not understandable `ascii`-code.

Does there exist a non-japanese translation/mirror?

Thx, Martin




Martin Lesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> "Marsha Petry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> >1.  Somebody mentioned a Japanese website that has performance stats
>> >(http://www.kyoto.wide.ad.jp/mta/eval1/).
>> 
>> That was me.
>
>Perhaps I'm a little bit stupid but could you tell me/us how we can get
>some more information out of the above site? The only result were
>different japanese signs. Using another charset than japanese resulted
>in not understandable `ascii`-code.

In my original message I suggested looking at the graphs. They're
labeled in English, and pretty easy to decipher.

>Does there exist a non-japanese translation/mirror?

Not to my knowledge.

-Dave




Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In my original message I suggested looking at the graphs. They're
> labeled in English, and pretty easy to decipher.

Sorry - you're right. In this moment I wrote a msg to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] He/she is responsibel for the mentioned
site. Perhaps I can get a translation which I can mirror.

>Does there exist a non-japanese translation/mirror?
> 
> Not to my knowledge.

So perhaps we can get one :-)

Martin




Why am I still on this list, I have sent the unsubscribe many times...
I dont even use qmail any more.  Someone help me, I am tired of having
to wait on 70-80 messages to download eating my bandwidth, when the
information is of no use to me, and I cant give help to the others.





"J.Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Why am I still on this list, I have sent the unsubscribe many times...

Because:

  1) you sent the request to the wrong address,
  2) you sent the request from the wrong account/system, or
  3) you failed to returnt the confirmation.

See:

  http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#mailing-lists

-Dave




Why doesn't anybody ever say:
"Send a blank message to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to unsubscribe."

Or for that matter, why is there not a single line after every post that says

--
To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





At 11:36 AM 12/30/99 , Dave Sill wrote:
>"J.Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Why am I still on this list, I have sent the unsubscribe many times...
>
>Because:
>
>  1) you sent the request to the wrong address,
>  2) you sent the request from the wrong account/system, or
>  3) you failed to returnt the confirmation.
>
>See:
>
>  http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#mailing-lists
>
>-Dave





How do I unsubscribe from this damned list???  I've sent mail after
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it keeps saying that I'm
not on the list.

Troy Frericks writes:
 > Why doesn't anybody ever say:
 > "Send a blank message to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to unsubscribe."
 > 
 > Or for that matter, why is there not a single line after every post that says
 > 
 > --
 > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




Have you got any other email address frowarded to you. You may need to
find out what is in the header as to what is the email address it is sent
to from the list server.

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:

> How do I unsubscribe from this damned list???  I've sent mail after
> mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it keeps saying that I'm
> not on the list.
> 
> Troy Frericks writes:
>  > Why doesn't anybody ever say:
>  > "Send a blank message to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to unsubscribe."
>  > 
>  > Or for that matter, why is there not a single line after every post that says
>  > 
>  > --
>  > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -- 
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.
> 





While following the instructions from:
http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html

I came to the part where I issue:
supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u71
-g1001 0 25 \
rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \
setuser qmaill cyclog -s5000000 -n5 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd &

I get the following error:
[1] 2168
bash: setuser: command not found
bash: setuser: command not found
[1]+  Exit 127


I have done the search on my computer for setuser program, and even asked
other users on irc about it.  But knowbody knows where I can find setuser.

Please help.

Dean
====
Dean Channing
Systems Administrator
807-City Freenet Inc.
=====================






You failed to follow the instructions in part 10a: Install daemontools and
tcpserver.  Download daemontools 0.53 and compile it.  After that you should
have the setuser binary in /usr/local/bin.

--Adam

On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 12:16:21PM -0500, Dean Channing wrote:
> While following the instructions from:
> http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html
> 
> I came to the part where I issue:
> supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u71
> -g1001 0 25 \
> rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \
> setuser qmaill cyclog -s5000000 -n5 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd &
> 
> I get the following error:
> [1] 2168
> bash: setuser: command not found
> bash: setuser: command not found
> [1]+  Exit 127
> 
> 
> I have done the search on my computer for setuser program, and even asked
> other users on irc about it.  But knowbody knows where I can find setuser.
> 
> Please help.
> 
> Dean
> ====
> Dean Channing
> Systems Administrator
> 807-City Freenet Inc.
> =====================
> 
> 




If you want to be a true purist, I would say that the MILLENNIUM (two L's,
two N's, kids :P) began three or four years ago (exactly when, it would be
difficult to determine).

The current calendar was based on Dionysius Exiguss' estimation of when
Jesus was born, using religious writings and gospels from The Bible as a
guideline for the determination.  He began numbering the years "Anno Domini"
(the year of our lord) with number "1 (one)", since (back then) the Romans
had no clue about the number "0 (zero)".

Unfortunately, nearly every modern scholar agrees that Dionysius' got it
wrong.  It is generally known (in those circles) that Jesus was born some
time between 7 BC and 4 BC (using Dionysius' current calendrics).  Most, in
fact, believe that he was born in 4 BC, when Herod died.

---[ Following text (c) 1997-1999 "Countdown 2000, Inc." ]---
---[ begin quote ]---
Two thousand years from the period January 1, 8 B.C. through December 31, 4
B.C. is January 1, 1993 through December 31, 1997 (remember there was no
year zero, hence the seeming addition error). Thus, by  most accounts the
second millennium from the birth of Christ was, in all cases, concluded by
December 31st, 1997.
---[  end quote  ]---

So, no matter when we all believe the Millennium began, it's a silly, stupid
argument.  The vast majority of Earth's human inhabitants (the small
percentage of Earth's life that cares about such things) will be celebrating
tomorrow night.  In light of that, ladies and gentlement, have a pint of
Guinness for me, and Happy New Millennium!

:)

Dustin


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 2:17 AM
To: Thomas Foerster
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sore it for y2k and then resend it


On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 09:02:39AM +0100, Thomas Foerster wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> one of our customers shut down their mailservers from 31.12.1999 to
1.1.2000
> I have to exchange the forward to a Maildir delivery.
> On 2.1.2000 i have to send all the stored mail to their mailserver.
>
> How can i do this ?
> When i try qmail-inject i have to give him the recipient adress ... but
that would
> meen to parse thousands of messages by hand and call thousands of time
qmail-inject ...
>
> How can this be automated? I'll just want to e.g. pipe every mail to a
programm
> and this one looks for the "To:" and sends the mail there.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>   Thomas
>

Dont do anything.. the mailserver will try to send it to the recipient
the next 7 days (thats the default value anyway), if unsuccessful the
mail will be deleted..

Best regards
 Michael Boman


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I am seeing the following lines our maillog file at seemingly random times:

Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.641566 new msg 4556939
Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.659252 info msg 4556939: bytes 1184 from 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 114886 uid 7790
Dec 30 12:20:19 4C:mail qmail: 946574419.702039 warning: unable to create 
local/18/4556939
Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.724831 starting delivery 24031: msg 4413537 
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.741645 status: local 2/10 remote 3/100

Basically the mail server appears to accept a message for delivery and then is unable
to create the disk files necessary to queue the message up.  Has anyone seen anything
like this before, or have anything they can point me to that can help me figure out
what is going on.  The disk appears to be okay, and these messages are not a constant
problem.  In fact, we haven't seen it for the past 3 days or so, and suddenly there
were 20 messages that were not sent because of the above error.

-Eric Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




There is a script on the qmail site that will rebuild the que
structure.... also check the permissions and free space.

Paul Farber
Farber Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ph  570-628-5303
Fax 570-628-5545

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Eric Davis wrote:

> I am seeing the following lines our maillog file at seemingly random times:
> 
> Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.641566 new msg 4556939
> Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.659252 info msg 4556939: bytes 1184 from 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 114886 uid 7790
> Dec 30 12:20:19 4C:mail qmail: 946574419.702039 warning: unable to create 
>local/18/4556939
> Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.724831 starting delivery 24031: msg 4413537 
>to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dec 30 12:20:19 6C:mail qmail: 946574419.741645 status: local 2/10 remote 3/100
> 
> Basically the mail server appears to accept a message for delivery and then is unable
> to create the disk files necessary to queue the message up.  Has anyone seen anything
> like this before, or have anything they can point me to that can help me figure out
> what is going on.  The disk appears to be okay, and these messages are not a constant
> problem.  In fact, we haven't seen it for the past 3 days or so, and suddenly there
> were 20 messages that were not sent because of the above error.
> 
> -Eric Davis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 





If you are using the original version of my patch there is an open() call
whose return status isn't checked for quota.  I have an updated patch
available.  Let me know if you'd like diffs against the original (virgin)
qmail source files, or a patch to the patch and I'll send it on to you.

-- Jeff Hayward

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Wolfgang Baumgartner wrote:

  Is there a patch to qmail, with which I can send
  a permanent error instead of a temporary error when
  the number of files in the Mailbox exceeds the allowed
  number of files (quota). The patch I found only
  sends a permanent error when the sum of messages
  exceeds the quota size.
  
  My problem is, that I have some users which never empty
  their mailbox, but are members of some maillists. And
  now this fills my queue and log files.
  
  Wolfgang
  





I am looking for a qmail developer in the San Francisco area.




At 03:34 PM 12/30/99 , Will Shatford wrote:
>I am looking for a qmail developer in the San Francisco area.

Two questions, what is a "qmail developer", and "what did he do?".
#





I am getting lots of stuck messages in one queue headed for another
machine on our network. I can telnet to the receiving machine's port 25
and it works fine, mail is delivered. But mail submitted to the "outgoing"
machines queue just stays there.

The mail log on the outgoing server hsd lots of these type entries:

Dec 30 22:26:49 6C:ella qmail: 946592809.255138 delivery 1869: deferral:
Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name._(#4.1.2)/
Dec 30 22:26:49 6C:ella qmail: 946592809.255726 delivery 1868: deferral:
Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name_(#4.1.2)/ 

and there are no entries on the log on the receiving server.

I can successfully send mail out of the "receiving" server using
qmail-inject. Just can't receive it...

I have seen several entries in the FAQ and have searched the archives, but
still no luck. I have definitely RTFM'd.

My guess is that there may be a problem with the controls files or
something. And I am sure dns is working...

Any ideas?





I thought everyone would enjoy knowing that Sony Pictures is using qmail
for their web site autoresponder.

----- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----

Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 24632 invoked from network); 30 Dec 1999 20:16:03 -0000
Received: from w2.sonypictures.com (209.67.129.102)
by flounder.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 1999 20:16:03 -0000 
Received: (qmail 19814 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 1999 20:15:24 -0000
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 30 Dec 1999 20:15:24 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thank you for your comments

Dear Adam,

Thanks for visiting the Sony Pictures Entertainment web site.
We are working hard to make this site valuable and entertaining to our users.

Your comments are important to us, and have been forwarded to the proper people.
Once again, thank you for the time you've taken to visit our site, and send us your 
comments.


Webmaster
Sony Pictures Entertainment


----- End forwarded message -----




Adam McKenna writes:
 > I thought everyone would enjoy knowing that Sony Pictures is using qmail
 > for their web site autoresponder.
 > 
 > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The surprising thing is that they're not using VERP.  I designed a
bounce handler for XOOM.com that tracks bouncing addresses, and probes
them ten days after the first bounce.  Everything goes through a
honking big database, so that bounce information is propagated across
all mailing that they do.

Then, again, maybe sonypictures is discarding your email addresses
after they autorespond to you.  You'd think they'd at least try to
find out who talks to them.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




Addresses are definetely not being dropped on the floor.

Russ, is your code available somewhere?

Dirk

On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 11:52:10PM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Adam McKenna writes:
>  > I thought everyone would enjoy knowing that Sony Pictures is using qmail
>  > for their web site autoresponder.
>  > 
>  > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> The surprising thing is that they're not using VERP.  I designed a
> bounce handler for XOOM.com that tracks bouncing addresses, and probes
> them ten days after the first bounce.  Everything goes through a
> honking big database, so that bounce information is propagated across
> all mailing that they do.
> 
> Then, again, maybe sonypictures is discarding your email addresses
> after they autorespond to you.  You'd think they'd at least try to
> find out who talks to them.
> 
> -- 
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > Addresses are definetely not being dropped on the floor.
 > 
 > Russ, is your code available somewhere?

No.  Unfortunately, it's *way* too customized for the XOOM.com
environment -- their particular mix of machines, OS's, database,
sending of emails, plus some custom patches to qmail-remote (which
implements a subset of a TRAC(tm) interpreter) to make life more
interesting.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




Hai.
How to configure qmail-popup to get mail from another host (not
localhost) or is there any tool ?


David L. Nicol wrote:

> > How to configure qmail / qmail popup or else to work like that. I
> have
> > tried with fetchmail and qpoper but still comfusing, I tried to
> change
> > source program (qmail-popup.c) but no progress.
> >
> > Th
> > Abu (LUG Indonesia)
>
> You are saying that you want to keep the username/password from
> a pop3 session on server1 and use that auth token set to download
> the mail from server2 to put it on server1.
>
> Depending on how responsive the pop3 server on server2 is, you
> will want to do the pop3 session to server2 either immediately
> on receiving the auth tokens from the user or delayed, after
> the pop3 session is over, so the mail from server2 will be
> there the next time the user checks.
>
> I could write you custom code to do both,
> with a time-out on the session to server2,
>  for $200, in under a month.







Hello.. everyone..
Now.. I want to deliver large files to my email messenger..
My problem is that qmail is locking when I try to deliver large file
(about over 1Mbyte) from my UNIX Mailbox to Windows messenger. So I
could not see my email. Now my Mailbox size is 13M.. How I can see my
large mail?? Can the qmail deliver large email to local mail user??
Please let me know how to do it..

My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send me an email to here...

--
 Yong-Dae Won <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 http://agent.syntech.co.kr/~ydwon
 Syntech, Inc.
 1556-9 Seocho-dong Seocho-gu, Seoul 137-070, Korea
 +82-2-3472-4670(Voice)  +82-2-3486-9927(FAX)






Hi
 Can anyone please help me sort out why /how i'm bouncing messages and
mine are being bounced.. and at the same time i'm getting ans sending
mail...

eg: i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    It apears in the list and i get a copy of the message
    then i get a message these messages
-----
Subject:
       Mail Error
   Date:
       28 Dec 1999 13:54:01 CST
  From:
       "Jetmail System" <>
    To:
       Cameron Arnott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Your mail cannot be delivered to the following address(es):

[EMAIL PROTECTED], 553 From <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, message blocked.

Please check the above address(es) and then try again.

---- Header of the source mail attached ----

Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu([131.193.178.181]) by
21cn.com(JetMail 2.3.2.1)
        with SMTP id /aimcque/jmail.rcv/0/jm1b3860678d; Wed, 22 Dec 1999
00:00:34 -0000
Received: (qmail 210 invoked by uid 1002); 21 Dec 1999 23:59:56 -0000
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 19672 invoked from network); 21 Dec 1999 23:59:54 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO kat.net.au) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 21 Dec 1999 23:59:54 -0000
Received: (qmail 15377 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 1999 23:59:21 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO kat.net.au) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  by 203.87.57.227 with SMTP; 21 Dec 1999 23:59:20 -0000
Sender: cameron
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:59:20 +1000
From: Cameron Arnott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: KATnet
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9-19mdk i586)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: real date stamp in log prob
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

-------

also.. i'm getting and reading mail right.. then i'm also getting mail
saying that qmail couldn't deliver my mail

sheesh
here's a copy of the message i recieved



Subject:
       ezmlm warning
   Date:
       30 Dec 1999 17:17:27 -0000
  From:
       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    To:
       [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.


Messages to you seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of
the first bounce message I received.

If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
bounces,
I will remove your address from the mailing list, without further
notice.


I've kept a list of which messages bounced from your address. Copies of
these messages may be in the archive. To get message 12345 from the
archive, send an empty note to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here are the message numbers:

   39784
   39785
   39787
   39788
   39789
   39790
   39792
   39791
   39793
   39794
   39853
   39854
   39855
   39856
   39857
   39858
   39859
   39865
   39880
   39885
   39884
   39860
   39861
   39862
   39863
   39864
   39866
   39867
   39868
   39869
   39871
   39872
   39870
   39873
   39874
   39876
   39875
   39878
   39877
   39879
   39881
   39882
   39883
   39886
   39887
   39889
   39888
   39890
   39893
   39891
   39894
   39892
   39895
   39896
   39897
   39898
   39899
   39900
   39905
   39906
   39907
   39921
   39901
   39902
   39903
   39904
   39908
   39913
   39914
   39915
   39910
   39911
   39916
   39917
   39909
   39918
   39912
   39919
   39920
   39924
   39922
   39923
   39925
   39926
   39927
   39932
   39931
   39933
   39945
   39934
   39947
   39935
   39936
   39937
   39939
   39940
   39938
   39941
   39943
   39942
   39958
   39946
   39944
   39951
   39967
   39948
   39949
   39950
   39954
   39953
   39955
   39956
   39959
   39960
   39957
   39952
   39961
   39962
   39963
   39965
   39964
   39966
   39968
   39969
   39970
   39971
   39972
   39973
   39974
   39985
   39987
   39975
   39995
   39986
   40005
   40014
   39988
   39989
   39994
   40007
   40008
   39991
   39992
   39990
   39993
   39997
   39998
   39996
   40000
   39999
   40003
   40004
   40002
   40001
   40006
   40033
   40009
   40035
   40011
   40010
   40012
   40042
   40013
   40018
   40020
   40021
   40016
   40017
   40045
   40015
   40019
   40022
   40023
   40026
   40025
   40024
   40028
   40027
   40029
   40030
   40031
   40032
   40043
   40034
   40036
   40044
   40046
   40047
   40048
   40049
   40050
   40051
   40052
   40054
   40055
   40056
   40053
   40057
   40058
   40059
   40060
   40061
   40062
   40063
   40064
   40065
   40066
   40067
   40074
   40068
   40069
   40070
   40071
   40072
   40073

--- Below this line is a copy of the bounce message I received.

Return-Path: <>
Received: (qmail 25353 invoked for bounce); 19 Dec 1999 03:30:39 -0000
Date: 19 Dec 1999 03:30:39 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at muncher.math.uic.edu.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
203.87.57.227 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied
Giving up on 203.87.57.227.

-----


how is this possible.. what is going on..






Has anyone noticed that if you have your hardware clock set to UTC 
but the Linux clock to local time, that regular messages have the 
local time time-stamp, but bounce messages are dated in UTC?

After messing with this a while, I decided to just just put my HW 
clock on local time, to heck with UTC and DST. Comments?

My Context: qmail 1.03 under RH Linux 6.1 on intel




Hi,

just a quickie: does qmailanalog handle the timestamps from the new
daemontools package?

Franky


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