qmail Digest 7 Jan 2000 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 873
Topics (messages 35168 through 35217):
Re: limiting smtp message size depending on domain
35168 by: Anand Buddhdev
Mail to all users
35169 by: qmail.col7.metta.lk
35171 by: Anand Buddhdev
35179 by: Russell Nelson
35182 by: Tong
Re: Troubleshooting: Probably a FAQ...
35170 by: Anand Buddhdev
35176 by: Mike Payson
35177 by: Greg Owen
35180 by: Anand Buddhdev
Re: 7 bit ascii & qmail
35172 by: Len Budney
35173 by: Sam
35175 by: Len Budney
35187 by: Claus F�rber
Re: What MUA do you use?
35174 by: Matthew Schnierle
35183 by: Rok Papez
need help with open-smtp4
35178 by: qmail.vui.org
Re: Why Are Virtual Domains So Difficult??
35181 by: Dave Sill
Virtual POP Users and Domains
35184 by: Eric Benson
35185 by: Peter Cavender
35186 by: Peter Green
FAQ for envelope/header fields
35188 by: Bill Ataras
35191 by: Sam
35216 by: Giles Lean
persistent connections for qmail file programs
35189 by: Peter Gradwell
35190 by: Patrick Berry
35192 by: Sam
Slow delivery of large message
35193 by: Monte Mitzelfelt
35217 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
web support
35194 by: Ari Arantes Filho
host masq w/ exception for root delivery?!
35195 by: nparrish.corp.auspex.com
FAQ 5.4 and Mailing Lists
35196 by: jacob.rampant.gayweb.com
35197 by: Dustin Marquess
receiving mail
35198 by: Kurt R. Hoehn
problems with dropped network packets
35199 by: Theodore Cekan
SNMP Support?
35200 by: Reece Markowsky
off-topic: Dan's engineering methods
35201 by: Len Budney
35203 by: Sam
init.d qmail sript on solaris
35202 by: Max Shaposhnikov
35208 by: Bin Zhang
Tcpserver problems on machine w/ multiple IPs
35204 by: Brian Baquiran
MX for two domains pointing towards one qmail server
35205 by: shajai
Sending Host's IP Address
35206 by: Peter Gradwell
35207 by: Anand Buddhdev
qmail-smtpd error: 502 unimplemented
35209 by: Kristina
35210 by: Kristina
35211 by: Kristina
35214 by: Kristina
35215 by: Kristina
test only
35212 by: Kristina
smtp error
35213 by: Kristina
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On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 11:41:23AM +0100, Robert Varga wrote: man qmail-smtpd, and look for DATABYTES. It's settable via tcpserver, and while you can't control the size limit on a per-domain basis, it allows for per-ip control. > Is there a way to limit the maximum message size the qmail-smtpd accepts > varying from domain to domain. > > Eg. I would like to have mail's going out of my LAN to have no size limit, > mail routed internally (from inside to inside through the mail hub) have > no size limit, but messages coming from outside have size limit, and > preferably even different limit for each domain. > > I would not like to do this somewhere after qmail-smtpd, because that way > the message gets accepted and hence transferred to our machine even if it > exceeds the size limit. -- See complete headers for more info
Hi all, I have several accounts on my server, and would like to have an easy way of sending news to all users. A note on how to do that would be appreciated best regards Jacob -- A saying of the Buddha from http://metta.lk/ -------------------------------------------- Empty this boat, O Bhikkhu! Emptied by you it will move swiftly. Cutting off lust and hatred, to Nibbana you will thereby go. Random Dhammapada Verse 369
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 11:44:15AM +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > I have several accounts on my server, > and would like to have an easy way of sending news to all users. > A note on how to do that would be appreciated Depending on the POP server you use, you could use the bulletin feature. qpopper supports bulletins. If you use qmail-pop3d, I think there's a patch on www.qmail.org to give that functionality. -- See complete headers for more info
Anand Buddhdev writes: > If you use qmail-pop3d, I think there's a patch on www.qmail.org to > give that functionality. No, not just a patch, it's a completely separate program. It uses the Bernstein Chaining(tm) of qmail-pop3d. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
How about create a mail-list for them ? At 03:41 PM 1/6/00 +0300, Anand Buddhdev wrote: >On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 11:44:15AM +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have several accounts on my server, >> and would like to have an easy way of sending news to all users. >> A note on how to do that would be appreciated > >Depending on the POP server you use, you could use the bulletin feature. >qpopper supports bulletins. If you use qmail-pop3d, I think there's a >patch on www.qmail.org to give that functionality. > >-- >See complete headers for more info >
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 12:13:29AM -0800, Mike Payson wrote: listserv seems not to like your "Sender" field, which contains an unqualified address, ie. "mpayson", instead of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". However, this has NOTHING to do with qmail; that field is inserted by your Netscape mail client. Fix that or dump Netscape. > I've just set up my qmail server, but I'm having some last minute > problems... I just tried to sign up for a mailing list but the mailing > list choked on my headers. Below are the fiull headers as forwarded from > the mailing list administrator, & the error message generated by the > list server. Also attached are the full headers from a second message I > sent to myself at my current address. Any idea what I'm missing? > > Thanks! > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: L-Soft list server at Bibliofind (1.8c) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aaron W. West; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from the Bibliofind offices > Subject: Problem processing mail file from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > An error occurred while processing file 11873 from > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "Mail message sent to the LISTSERV address > contains invalid RFC822 fields and could not be parsed successfully". > > RFC822 parser messages follow: > > <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. > > <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. > > <E> Mail origin cannot be determined. > > <E> Original tag data was -> mpayson > > ------------------- Message causing the problem (17 > lines) -------------------- > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from ubdnet.net (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-492.oz.net) by > biblio.bibliofind.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 2:17:32 -0500 > Received: (qmail 7689 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2000 07:16:40 -0000 > Received: from unknown (HELO ubdnet.net) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > by sense-sea-megasub-1-492.oz.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 2000 07:16:40 -0000 > Sender: mpayson > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:09:02 -0800 > From: Mike Payson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > join news > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Received: > from ubdnet.net > (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-492.oz.net [216.39.145.238]) by > mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with SMTP id > XAA05279 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:17:47 -0800 > Received: > (qmail 7696 invoked from network); 6 Jan > 2000 07:17:02 -0000 > Received: > from unknown (HELO ubdnet.net) > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by > sense-sea-megasub-1-492.oz.net with SMTP; 6 > Jan 2000 07:17:02 -0000 > Sender: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: > Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:09:24 -0800 > From: > Mike Payson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Mailer: > Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) > X-Accept-Language: > en > MIME-Version: > 1.0 > To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: > test > Content-Type: > text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: > 7bit > X-Mozilla-Status: > 8001 > X-Mozilla-Status2: > 00000000 > X-UIDL: > 9d29cd0b32e3d580a517270da2667bec -- See complete headers for more info
I'm pretty sure it's not Netscape... I tried setting my outgoing mail server to that of my ISP-- nothing else changed-- & the sender showed up as [EMAIL PROTECTED] It appears that this is a setting supplied by the mail server, but it's possible that I'm wrong. Thanks! Mike Anand Buddhdev wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 12:13:29AM -0800, Mike Payson wrote: > > listserv seems not to like your "Sender" field, which contains an > unqualified address, ie. "mpayson", instead of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". > However, this has NOTHING to do with qmail; that field is inserted by > your Netscape mail client. Fix that or dump Netscape. > > > I've just set up my qmail server, but I'm having some last minute > > problems... I just tried to sign up for a mailing list but the mailing > > list choked on my headers. Below are the fiull headers as forwarded from > > the mailing list administrator, & the error message generated by the > > list server. Also attached are the full headers from a second message I > > sent to myself at my current address. Any idea what I'm missing? > > > > Thanks! > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: L-Soft list server at Bibliofind (1.8c) > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:18 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aaron W. West; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from the Bibliofind offices > > Subject: Problem processing mail file from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > An error occurred while processing file 11873 from > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "Mail message sent to the LISTSERV address > > contains invalid RFC822 fields and could not be parsed successfully". > > > > RFC822 parser messages follow: > > > > <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. > > > > <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. > > > > <E> Mail origin cannot be determined. > > > > <E> Original tag data was -> mpayson > > > > ------------------- Message causing the problem (17 > > lines) -------------------- > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Received: from ubdnet.net (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-492.oz.net) by > > biblio.bibliofind.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 2:17:32 -0500 > > Received: (qmail 7689 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2000 07:16:40 -0000 > > Received: from unknown (HELO ubdnet.net) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > by sense-sea-megasub-1-492.oz.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 2000 07:16:40 -0000 > > Sender: mpayson > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:09:02 -0800 > > From: Mike Payson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) > > X-Accept-Language: en > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > join news > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Received: > > from ubdnet.net > > (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-492.oz.net [216.39.145.238]) by > > mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with SMTP id > > XAA05279 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:17:47 -0800 > > Received: > > (qmail 7696 invoked from network); 6 Jan > > 2000 07:17:02 -0000 > > Received: > > from unknown (HELO ubdnet.net) > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by > > sense-sea-megasub-1-492.oz.net with SMTP; 6 > > Jan 2000 07:17:02 -0000 > > Sender: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: > > Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:09:24 -0800 > > From: > > Mike Payson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > X-Mailer: > > Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) > > X-Accept-Language: > > en > > MIME-Version: > > 1.0 > > To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: > > test > > Content-Type: > > text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: > > 7bit > > X-Mozilla-Status: > > 8001 > > X-Mozilla-Status2: > > 00000000 > > X-UIDL: > > 9d29cd0b32e3d580a517270da2667bec > > -- > See complete headers for more info -- Mike Payson || ubdnet.net: The Used Book Dealer's Network mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.ubdnet.net:8080/ubd
> I'm pretty sure it's not Netscape... I tried setting my outgoing mail > server to that of my ISP-- nothing else changed-- & the sender showed > up as [EMAIL PROTECTED] It appears that this is a setting > supplied by the mail server, but it's possible that I'm wrong. More probably it is "rewritten" by your mail server. Sendmail has a habit of rewriting any addresses to correct the MUA's incorrect or partial view of the world. Qmail, less so; but see the mess822 package (particularly ofmipd) at http://cr.yp.to/mess822.html. Probably easier to fix in the client. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 05:47:10AM -0800, Mike Payson wrote: If you send mail via qmail-smtpd, it does NOT INSERT ANY HEADERS, except for Received: headers. With Netscape, you can only submit messages via SMTP, and therefore I can only conclude that the incomplete Sender: header was inserted by Netscape. Some other MTA's, like sendmail, are known to insert headers into messages submitted via SMTP, and so it's possible that your ISP's mail server "fixed" your message for you. > I'm pretty sure it's not Netscape... I tried setting my outgoing mail > server to that of my ISP-- nothing else changed-- & the sender showed up > as [EMAIL PROTECTED] It appears that this is a setting supplied by > the mail server, but it's possible that I'm wrong. > > Thanks! > Mike > > Anand Buddhdev wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 12:13:29AM -0800, Mike Payson wrote: > > > > listserv seems not to like your "Sender" field, which contains an > > unqualified address, ie. "mpayson", instead of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". > > However, this has NOTHING to do with qmail; that field is inserted by > > your Netscape mail client. Fix that or dump Netscape. > > > > > I've just set up my qmail server, but I'm having some last minute > > > problems... I just tried to sign up for a mailing list but the mailing > > > list choked on my headers. Below are the fiull headers as forwarded from > > > the mailing list administrator, & the error message generated by the > > > list server. Also attached are the full headers from a second message I > > > sent to myself at my current address. Any idea what I'm missing? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: L-Soft list server at Bibliofind (1.8c) > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:18 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aaron W. West; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from the Bibliofind offices > > > Subject: Problem processing mail file from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > An error occurred while processing file 11873 from > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "Mail message sent to the LISTSERV address > > > contains invalid RFC822 fields and could not be parsed successfully". > > > > > > RFC822 parser messages follow: > > > > > > <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. > > > > > > <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. > > > > > > <E> Mail origin cannot be determined. > > > > > > <E> Original tag data was -> mpayson > > > > > > ------------------- Message causing the problem (17 > > > lines) -------------------- > > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Received: from ubdnet.net (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-492.oz.net) by > > > biblio.bibliofind.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 2:17:32 -0500 > > > Received: (qmail 7689 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2000 07:16:40 -0000 > > > Received: from unknown (HELO ubdnet.net) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > by sense-sea-megasub-1-492.oz.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 2000 07:16:40 -0000 > > > Sender: mpayson > > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:09:02 -0800 > > > From: Mike Payson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) > > > X-Accept-Language: en > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > join news > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Received: > > > from ubdnet.net > > > (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-492.oz.net [216.39.145.238]) by > > > mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with SMTP id > > > XAA05279 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:17:47 -0800 > > > Received: > > > (qmail 7696 invoked from network); 6 Jan > > > 2000 07:17:02 -0000 > > > Received: > > > from unknown (HELO ubdnet.net) > > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by > > > sense-sea-megasub-1-492.oz.net with SMTP; 6 > > > Jan 2000 07:17:02 -0000 > > > Sender: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Message-ID: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: > > > Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:09:24 -0800 > > > From: > > > Mike Payson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > X-Mailer: > > > Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) > > > X-Accept-Language: > > > en > > > MIME-Version: > > > 1.0 > > > To: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: > > > test > > > Content-Type: > > > text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: > > > 7bit > > > X-Mozilla-Status: > > > 8001 > > > X-Mozilla-Status2: > > > 00000000 > > > X-UIDL: > > > 9d29cd0b32e3d580a517270da2667bec > > > > -- > > See complete headers for more info > > -- > Mike Payson || ubdnet.net: The Used Book Dealer's Network > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.ubdnet.net:8080/ubd -- See complete headers for more info
Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ..."dropped"..."bounced"...slandering AOL. > > Sue me. Are you worth it? Seriously, my point was 1) clarify what you meant before, and 2) say what you mean in the future. If you don't, the cost/benefit ratio in talking to you drops way low. Len.
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Len Budney wrote: > Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ..."dropped"..."bounced"...slandering AOL. > > > > Sue me. > > Are you worth it? Yes. > Seriously, my point was 1) clarify what you meant before, and 2) say > what you mean in the future. If you don't, the cost/benefit ratio in > talking to you drops way low. Boo-hoo. -- Sam
Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the cost/benefit ratio in talking to you drops way low. > > Boo-hoo. Fine; build your own MTA which conforms to your own vague requirements and doesn't do the *something* that you don't like (drop messages? bounce messages? burn messages?). And make sure it interoperates with a _majority_ of _existing_ clients and servers. Len. -- I don't have a killfile; I'm just ignoring you.
Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > Matthew Brown writes: >> The difference is that sendmail makes a halfhearted attempt at compliance, >> and qmail doesn't. > > Agreed. Now, which one would you rather have? Well, it would be nice if qmail was fully compliant here (although I don't like that standard). So qmail should convert a message to quoted-printable iff necessary. Anything else is dangerous and bad. But I certainly don't want a programme that does so many dangerous transformations as sendmail. -- Claus Andre Faerber <http://www.faerber.muc.de> PGP: ID=1024/527CADCD FP=12 20 49 F3 E1 04 9E 9E 25 56 69 A5 C6 A0 C9 DC
Yeah. Pine. Does all that (well, procmail helps the spam effort), and you can run it on a 300 baud serial connection if necessary. On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Bill Ataras wrote: BA> BA> BA>Just curious what people are using to read/send mail from X. I was using BA>netscape (SMTP/POP) that came with my redhat dist, but wanted something BA>with more features (multiple POP accts, filtering etc). I've been playing BA>with "spruce" (check freshmeat). Its pretty good. But I'm curious what you BA>guys are using. Now that I have an industrial strength mail server (qmail) BA>I'd like a really good MUA. Maybe to help me use different mail accounts BA>for different maillists and for usenet etc etc. Have you found a good mail BA>client that will let you live on multiple maillists, usenet, spam/filter BA>yada yada? BA> BA> BA> -- --Matt Schnierle --mgs at stargate dot net --Stargate Industries, LLC --#include <std/disclaimer.h> --"It's not that simple."
Hello Bill. On Wed, 05 Jan 2000, Bill Ataras wrote: > with "spruce" (check freshmeat). Its pretty good. But I'm curious what you Spruce is nice.... Too bad it doesn't store mail in Maildir format, and it's filterng isn't powerfull enough. Also I don't think it's stable enough (yet). Spruce however has a potential to become a very good MUA. But I guess I'm just spoiled by PMMail :-).. who unfortunately isn't available under Linux. Right now I'm using KMail and it works for me (just barely)... However it did loose a few mails once so I'm trying to find some other MUA. Mutt; well I did try it and altough I sometimes_use/like Pine I realy disliked Mutt becouse it's default key bindings are 100% different from what I'm used to. Maybe someday when I have more time (yeah right... whom am I kidding) I'll read the docs and rewamp all key bindings. -- best regards, Rok Papez.
hi all! can someone please explain how to install the open-smtp4.tar.gz from russ nelson? thx in advance greets, michael
Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think that the existing documentation is much too complex for most >situations. The FAQ points out a very simple solution, which becomes >very complex as soon as more than one virtual domain is used. I don't get it. How are multiple virtual domains more (than linearly) complex than one? If you ask how to do aliases, and I say "echo user >~alias/.qmail-foo", is it not trivial to deduce the mechanism for creating other aliases? >I think that DJB intends people to use fastforward, since he insists >that a standard qmail distrubution includes fastforward and dotforward. Ever seen one of those "standard qmail distrubution[s]"? Me neither. I think fastforward and dotforward are crutches for sendmail emigr�s. If Dan thought .forwards were such a great idea, we wouldn't have .qmail files. Likewise for fastforward. >So, why doesn't LWQ or qmail-1.03/FAQ mention this? See above. -Dave
I am trying to set up Qmail to be a pop mail server for several of our company domain names. The users do not need, nor do i want to give them, a login account. There will be some identical user names in the different domains but they must be handled differently. How would I set up the POP storage and create the virtual user accounts for them to log in and retrieve their mail. Eric -- E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ : 14275985 | AIM : Scedrick
>I am trying to set up Qmail to be a pop mail server for several of our >company domain names. The users do not need, nor do i want to give them, >a login account. There will be some identical user names in the >different domains but they must be handled differently. How would I set >up the POP storage and create the virtual user accounts for them to log >in and retrieve their mail. > >Eric Create the user accounts with the "-s /bin/false" option; this gives them a "shell" of /bin/false, which essentially preventys login. qmail will work fine.
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 02:02:17PM -0500, Eric Benson wrote: > I am trying to set up Qmail to be a pop mail server for several of our > company domain names. The users do not need, nor do i want to give them, > a login account. There will be some identical user names in the > different domains but they must be handled differently. How would I set > up the POP storage and create the virtual user accounts for them to log > in and retrieve their mail. I would highly recommend looking at the vpopmail distribution at <http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/>. We use qmail with "real" and "virtual" users simultaneously (using vpopmail for the virtuals and stock qmail with the reals) and we couldn't be happier. Development on vpopmail is active and rapid, and the supporting tools (e.g., <http://www.inter7.com/qmailadmin/>) are invaluable. /pg -- Peter Green Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a good faq somewhere that talks about how to handle the various envelope and header fields from a MUA point of view? ie, which field should I actually reply to when the user clicks reply, should I show the from: field or sender field, etc etc
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Bill Ataras wrote: > Is there a good faq somewhere that talks about how to handle the > various envelope and header fields from a MUA point of view? ie, which RFC 822. > field should I actually reply to when the user clicks reply, should I > show the from: field or sender field, etc etc You reply to the contents of the Reply-To: header. If missing, use From:. -- Sam
On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 14:17:12 PST Bill Ataras wrote: > Is there a good faq somewhere that talks about how to handle the various > envelope and header fields from a MUA point of view? I like: http://cr.yp.to/immhf.html Giles
Hi ya, If I have a perl script, in a .qmail- file, which connects to a mysql database, has anyone considered how to make the mysql connection persistent. Would it be at all possible to have persistence in the program run by a .qmail file? or am i totally mad? peter -- peter at gradwell dot com; online @ http://www.gradwell.com/
on 1/6/00 2:25 PM, Peter Gradwell had the thought: > Hi ya, > > If I have a perl script, in a .qmail- file, which connects to a mysql > database, has anyone considered how to make the mysql connection persistent. > > Would it be at all possible to have persistence in the program run by a > ..qmail file? This is the "long way" as I don't really know the "short war". You could set up Apache+mod_perl+my_sql and have the dot-qmail file send stuff to a cgi. I'm not to sure about any other ways. > or am i totally mad? Pat -- Freestyle Interactive | http://www.freestyleinteractive.com | 415.778.0610
Peter Gradwell writes: > Hi ya, > > If I have a perl script, in a .qmail- file, which connects to a mysql > database, has anyone considered how to make the mysql connection persistent. > > Would it be at all possible to have persistence in the program run by a > .qmail file? > > or am i totally mad? Sure. Anything is possible. Run your Perl script permanently in the background, and have a small Perl stub executed from .qmail that connects to the background daemon via a socket or a pipe, and does what it has to do. -- Sam
I've got a fairly large (45k+ message) being sent to a mailing list of about 1100 people. It is getting "qmail-spawn unable to create pipe" errors each time the message hits the delivery stage. At this point, I also can't seem to ALRM it into sending for some reason. It is running on Solaris 7 (SunOS 5.7 is what uname -a reports anyway). Anybody have any ideas about what I can do? I've got some irritated customers I need to help as soon as I can. Monte
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 06:09:05PM -0700, Monte Mitzelfelt wrote: > I've got a fairly large (45k+ message) being sent to a mailing list of > about 1100 people. It is getting "qmail-spawn unable to create pipe" > errors each time the message hits the delivery stage. At this point, I > also can't seem to ALRM it into sending for some reason. It is running on > Solaris 7 (SunOS 5.7 is what uname -a reports anyway). > > Anybody have any ideas about what I can do? I've got some irritated > customers I need to help as soon as I can. You're out of file descriptors. Probably this problem never occurred to you with small messages becuase qmail-remote delivers them faster than qmail-rspawn could spawn 'm. Now, with this big message, qmail-remote takes some time to finish, so qmail-rspawn has time to spawn a lot of these creatures and runs out of file descriptors.. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Hi, Is there a tools simular to qmailadmin (www.inter7.com) to deal with real user accounts, I mean not to use with vpopmail? Best regards, Ari
I hope this is not a terribly FAQ; I've searched through the discussion list archives a good bit, and I've seen some answers which come rather close, but don't quite seem to hit my particular nail square on the head... with that disclaimer done: Setting my system up as a null-host seems to be nigh-perfect for me, except for local root mail. I found a suggestion in the archive that one might apply FAQ 1.2 and FAQ 5.5. unfortunately, I was rather spoiled in the past by being able to leave off the @whereever.com for local mail. If I follow FAQ 1.2, mail sent from my box to a local user will arrive at that user's mailbox, but with the To: address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Things get real nasty when people start doing group replies and suchlike, since my box is not always up, and I shouldn't be in the business of delivering mail anyway. FAQ 1.1 (host masquerading) works great for this, EXCEPT for the nasty bit about root mail going out as [EMAIL PROTECTED], meaning that it goes out to the sysadmin for my company, who really doesn't care what happened with my cron scripts last night. I do care about what happened with my cron scripts last night, so I put my address in ~alias/.qmail-root. but I don't have local delivery turned on, so my alias is never consulted... So I'm looking for a solution whereby a) I can still send mail to someuser and the to: address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED], b) I show up as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and c) root mail gets delivered to my alias rather than going to mailhub.whereever.com, who sends it to the sysadmin for my company. thanks in advance for any help, nathan
Hi. I am having a hard time understanding how to set up qmail to stop third-party relaying while still accepting all of the legitimate mail our users recieve. The specific problem I have having is that mail from distribution lists (where the To: field addresses the list itself and not that of the local user) is being seen as a relay since the list domain isn't in /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and tcp-env isn't setting RELAYCLIENT because the list domain is also not in the set of domains we want to accept relays for. I read and reread the FAQ but didn't see an answer for this situation. It seems like it would be a common problem, but perhaps I just don't understand enough of how the qmail system works. Thanks in advance for any help. Jacob Martinson
Qmail does not use the To: header to check relaying. It uses the address given in the SMTP "RCPT TO" command. In the case of mailing lists, this *IS* actually the address of the mail recipient and not the mailing list itself. -Dustin At 08:27 PM 1/6/00 , you wrote: >Hi. > >I am having a hard time understanding how to set up qmail to stop >third-party relaying while still accepting all of the legitimate mail our >users recieve. > >The specific problem I have having is that mail from distribution lists >(where the To: field addresses the list itself and not that of the local >user) is being seen as a relay since the list domain isn't in >/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and tcp-env isn't setting RELAYCLIENT because >the list domain is also not in the set of domains we want to accept relays for. > >I read and reread the FAQ but didn't see an answer for this situation. It >seems like it would be a common problem, but perhaps I just don't >understand enough of how the qmail system works. > >Thanks in advance for any help. > >Jacob Martinson >
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I am running FreeBSD 3.3 with a pn0 network card. When I have qmail send out large amounts of email to a subscriber list (about 100k addresses) I often get errors in my message log about dropped packets and 'Out of mbuf clusters'. Qmail then stops sending mail, but I can still telnet in, so the network is still up. It suggests I increase nmbclusters or maxusers. I have maxusers set at 64 and nmbclusters at 2048. Qmail is the only thing running on the server. Do I really need to increase these? Is there a problem with the pn0 nic driver? Anyone else solve this problem? Any help is much appreciated. Ted
Do any solutions for QMail/SNMP Support exist? Thanks Reece PS: Thanks for all the help with the anti-relay questions.
Apologies for this slightly off-topic post. Has Dan has revealed enough about his engineering methods for others to duplicate them? Does anybody want to, possibly producing sharable tools? Given the quality of his results, his methods might be worth imitating. (Plus, I'm not happy with current approaches to building; below are some reasons.) Dan: any hints, pointers, or sample scripts, however rough, would be much appreciated--at least by me. The big open question for me is: 1. What does he use for source control, given that he builds in one directory, and bundles the same libraries with many packages? How is the repository organized? CVS etc. like hierarchies. Here's what I have determined or guessed from following these lists. 1. Dan _does_ have automated tools, but doesn't consider them production quality and hasn't released them [1]. 2. The ezmlm package contains files of form *=* which give a strong hint how his makefiles are generated [2]. 3. Dan appears to track "functional units" of code, and appears to incorporate them into projects as units [5]. Perhaps using CVS modules or the like? 4. All sources go into one directory; Perhaps because recursion defeats make's dependency checks [3,4]? Perhaps because many tools don't like to build things in subdirectories? Perhaps because his packages are pretty small, so it just doesn't matter? 5. The "just in time dependency" [1] approach to configuration is fairly well understood. (DJB's 'yabbawhap' package included a tool which inspired autoconf [1], but he has adopted his current approach because monolithic config subverts make's dependency checking [3].) 6. Scripts "compile" and "load" exist so make can manage dependency on compiler settings. Changed settings force recompilation [3]. Thanks, Len. -- [1] <http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1999/08/msg00005.html> [2] <http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1999/07/msg00115.html> [3] <http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1996/12/msg01294.html> <http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1996/12/msg00208.html> <http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1998/03/msg00788.html> [4] For a discussion, not by Dan, see "Recursive Make Considered Harmful" at <http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/rmch/recu-make-cons-harm.html>. [5] I can't find the reference. Dan once posted the observation that sets of files belong together, as {substdi.c, substdio.c, substdio.h} (not the correct example).
Len Budney writes: > Apologies for this slightly off-topic post. > > Has Dan has revealed enough about his engineering methods for others > to duplicate them? Does anybody want to, possibly producing sharable > tools? There are already existing tools out there that produce perfectly reusable and recyclable code, which have been battleproven, and can easily handle huge projects made out of modular parts. I have four projects, in which an average of 50% of the code is shared amongst all four of them, and is organized into about a dozen different subdirectories. > The big open question for me is: > > 1. What does he use for source control, given that he builds in one > directory, and bundles the same libraries with many packages? How > is the repository organized? CVS etc. like hierarchies. Initially RCS worked fine for me. In each directory of a shared module, I simply set RCS to be a soft link pointing to a common directory. However, lately due to increased complexity I upgraded to CVS, so that changes to any shared code can be automatically propagated via one cvs update, instead of having to remember to RCS co each individual file from the shared RCS repository, for each project. Any time I switch projects I just do a cvs update, and I'm all set. And, because CVS is just a shell on top of RCS, moving to CVS was virtually a no-op. > 2. The ezmlm package contains files of form *=* which give a strong > hint how his makefiles are generated [2]. That's nasically a simplified version of what autoconf and automake does. They are standardized tools that everyone knows how to use. There's an initial steep learning curve, but, after a while, it becomes as natural as breathing. > 3. Dan appears to track "functional units" of code, and appears to > incorporate them into projects as units [5]. Perhaps using CVS > modules or the like? Easily handled via CVS, with autoconf and automake. Take a look at sqwebmail - http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/, courier-imap - http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/, and maildrop - http://www.flounder.net/~mrsam/maildrop/. All three tools reuse about a dozen functional modules, which are stored only once, in a single repository. At any given time, actually, there might be very minor differences in the same module within each individual package simply due to the fact I don't package them as a tarball simultaneously, but only when there's a functional upgrade. But, ignoring those minor differences, although the base source code within all three projects is identical, in some cases the autoconf/automake scripts end up configuring the same module quite differently. For example, look at the authlib library. Because Courier-IMAP includes the libhmac module, authlib detects it and compiles some code that implements CRAM-MD5 authentication, which uses the code from libhmac. The same authlib module does not compile the CRAM-MD5 code when it is packaged as part of sqwebmail, because sqwebmail does not include the libhmac library, and it has no need for CRAM-MD5 authentication. I just noticed that maildrop does not include the md5 module, because I haven't worked on maildrop for a while, and haven't updated it. Therefore, the userdb virtual account module can only set crypted passwords for the userdb virtual account database. Simply adding the md5 module to the maildrop build will result in userdb reconfiguring itself to offer an option of storing passwords encrypted with the MD5 hash function, permitting longer passwords. > 4. All sources go into one directory; Perhaps because recursion defeats > make's dependency checks [3,4]? Perhaps because many tools don't like > to build things in subdirectories? Perhaps because his packages > are pretty small, so it just doesn't matter? It's quite convenient to package standalone modules as individual subdirectory that can be plonked into any project, and have a top-level configure script configure it. autoconf and automake have the necessary resources to build a module hierarchy, so there's no need to badger djb for this tools, since equivalent capabilities have been available in autoconf and automake for years... -- Sam
i have strange problems with qmail smtp startup on my sun solaris 7 machine... when i reboot sun qmail start but won't work properly if i do qmail stop qmail start all is work just fine... init script: PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/var/qmail/bin:usr/sbin USERID=102 GROUPID=100 case "$1" in start) echo -n "Starting mail-transfer agent: qmail" #ulimit -v 2048 csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &' supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u$USERID -g$GROUPID 0 2\rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \ setuser qmaill cyclog -s5000000 -n5 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd & echo "." ;; stop) echo -n "Stopping mail-transfer agent: qmail" PID=`ps -eo pid,comm | awk '{ if ($2 == "qmail-send") print $1}'` kill -TERM $PID svc -dx /var/lock/qmail-smtpd echo "." ;; restart) $0 stop $0 start ;; reload|force-reload) echo "Reloading 'locals' and 'virtualdomains' control files." PID=`ps -eo pid,comm | awk '{ if ($2 == "qmail-send") print $1}'` kill -HUP $PID ;; *) echo 'Usage: /etc/init.d/qmail {start|stop|restart|reload}' exit 1 esac exit 0 � ������ ����� ��������: qmailq 252 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail-clean qmails 240 1 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail-send root 659 242 0 00:41:55 ? 0:00 supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 root 242 1 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 qmaill 249 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 splogger qmail root 250 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/ qmailr 251 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail-rspawn ����� /etc/init.d/qmail stop /etc/init.d/qmail start qmaill 734 1 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 cyclog -s5000000 -n5 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd qmaild 731 729 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 25 rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd root 729 1 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 qmailq 736 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail-clean qmaill 732 1 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 accustamp qmaill 730 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 splogger qmail root 733 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/ qmails 728 1 1 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail-send qmailr 735 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail-rspawn script auto-running from /etc/rc2.d/S99qmail... where i'm wrong? who can send to me right init script? i'm novice in qmail and solaris...
I have the same problem. Please let me know if you get an answer. Thanks. Bin Quoting Max Shaposhnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > i have strange problems with qmail smtp startup on my sun solaris 7 > machine... > when i reboot sun qmail start but won't work properly > if i do > qmail stop > qmail start > all is work just fine... > > init script: > > PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/var/qmail/bin:usr/sb in > USERID=102 > GROUPID=100 > > case "$1" in > start) > echo -n "Starting mail-transfer agent: qmail" > > #ulimit -v 2048 > csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &' > supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd > tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u$USERID -g$GROUPID 0 2\rblsmtpd > qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | setuser qmaill accustamp | \ > setuser qmaill cyclog -s5000000 - n5 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd & > echo "." > ;; > stop) > echo -n "Stopping mail-transfer agent: qmail" > PID=`ps -eo pid,comm | awk '{ if ($2 == "qmail-send") print $1}'` > kill -TERM $PID > svc -dx /var/lock/qmail-smtpd > echo "." > ;; > restart) > $0 stop > $0 start > ;; > reload|force-reload) > echo "Reloading 'locals' and 'virtualdomains' control files." > PID=`ps -eo pid,comm | awk '{ if ($2 == "qmail-send") print $1}'` > kill -HUP $PID > ;; > *) > echo 'Usage: /etc/init.d/qmail {start|stop|restart|reload}' > exit 1 > esac > > exit 0 > > � ������ ����� ��������: > qmailq 252 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail- clean > qmails 240 1 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail- send > root 659 242 0 00:41:55 ? 0:00 supervise > /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v - x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 > root 242 1 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 supervise > /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v - x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 > qmaill 249 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 splogger qmail > root 250 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail- lspawn ./Maildir/ > qmailr 251 240 0 00:36:04 ? 0:00 qmail- rspawn > > ����� > /etc/init.d/qmail stop > /etc/init.d/qmail start > > qmaill 734 1 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 cyclog - s5000000 -n5 > /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd > qmaild 731 729 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 > tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 25 rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd > root 729 1 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 supervise > /var/lock/qmail-smtpd tcpserver -v - x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u102 -g100 0 > qmailq 736 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail- clean > qmaill 732 1 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 accustamp > qmaill 730 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 splogger qmail > root 733 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail- lspawn ./Maildir/ > qmails 728 1 1 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail- send > qmailr 735 728 0 00:42:59 pts/1 0:00 qmail- rspawn > > > script auto-running from /etc/rc2.d/S99qmail... > > where i'm wrong? > who can send to me right init script? > i'm novice in qmail and solaris... > > > ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/
All of a sudden I'm having problems with tcpserver on a machine with multiple IP's (but only one network interface card). It was working great until recently; running qmail-smtpd and qmail-pop3d on both a "live" IP and a non-routable IP (192.168.0.x). But just a few hours ago, it stopped running qmail-smtpd AND qmail-pop3d on the non-routable IP. The non-routable IP is still up. I can telnet to ports 25 and 110 from machines on the non-routable network, but although tcpserver seems to accept the connection, it does not seem to run the proper program once a TCP session is established. It works OK on the live IP though. Has this happened to anyone else before? Any advice (where to look, etc.) would be greatly appreciated. Brian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.baquiran.com US Fax: (603) 908-0727 AIM: bbaquiran
MX for two domains pointing towards one qmail server, all mails for both the domains are coming to that server. How can I define two mail accounts with the same username for different domains(i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] ).
Also the qmail server is checking only for username after the mails come to the server how can I instruct qmail to check for the complete email id(i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] )instead of checking only for username.
Thanks,
Shailendra.
Hi, qmail-command defines a whole bunch of really useful environment variables which are set, like HOST, SENDER, USER, LOCAL, etc. We want to capture the sending host's IP address in a perl script, invoked from a .qmail file, as we want to look it up in the MAPS lists and do some stats and stuff. It appears that we will have to parse the headers of the message to get the ip address of the host it came from. Is this the only way? cheers peter -- peter at gradwell dot com; online @ http://www.gradwell.com/
On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 07:52:43AM +0000, Peter Gradwell wrote: > qmail-command defines a whole bunch of really useful environment variables > which are set, like HOST, SENDER, USER, LOCAL, etc. > > We want to capture the sending host's IP address in a perl script, invoked > from a .qmail file, as we want to look it up in the MAPS lists and do some > stats and stuff. The sending host talks to qmail-smtpd, which accepts the messages, dumps it into the queue, and exits. After the message in the queue has been processed by qmail-send, qmail-local is invoked to deliver the email. Therefore there's no way for qmail-smtpd's environment to be available to qmail-local. > It appears that we will have to parse the headers of the message to get the > ip address of the host it came from. Is this the only way? Yes, to my knowledge. -- See complete headers for more info
I have qmail-smtpd setup using inetd. . However when I try to send mail I get the error below: telnet localhost 25 MAIL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail test
I have qmail-smtpd setup using inetd. . However when I try to send mail I get the error below: telnet localhost 25 MAIL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail test
I have qmail-smtpd setup using inetd. . However when I try to send mail I get the error below: telnet localhost 25 MAIL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail test
have qmail-smtpd setup using inetd. . However when I try to send mail I get the error below: telnet localhost 25 MAIL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail test
have qmail-smtpd setup using inetd. . However when I try to send mail by telnet localhost 25. I get the following error: 502 unimplemented (#5.5.1) $B!!(B***ERROR HERE**** Does anyone know what may be causing this? Thanks in advance, Kristina
Please ignore this test. Sorry! Kristina
I have qmail-smtpd setup using inetd. . However when I try to send mail I get the error below: telnet localhost 25 MAIL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail test
