My reasons for using Outlook shouldn't be under scrutiny. I use those functions in an all-in-one program which I keep open /all the time/ during my business day. That's enough of an explanation. I do not believe it is entirely Outlook's fault, and I'd really like to get down to the nitty-gritty of what causes Outlook to do that, and where the blame truly lies. Believe me, I'd like to just say "It's Outlook 2000's fault", that's easy and fun, but it might not be. It's off-topic, anyway, if no one will concede that it might actually be qmail's fault. Dustin -----Original Message----- From: Dustin Marquess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 11:36 PM To: Dustin Miller Cc: Aaron L. Meehan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Odd. I have a hard time believing that Outlook is just being strict on RFCs, since it's usually M$ that breaks the RFCs in the first place, and since Outlook seems to be the only mailer having this problem... Anyways, why do you need a journal and scheduler built into your MUA? -Dustin At 05:32 PM 1/8/00 , Dustin Miller wrote: > > A: Use another mailer. > >Show me a Win32 mailer that has integrated contact management, journalling, >and scheduling, along with a word-based junk mail and adult mail filter, >with a little bit of programmability tossed in for good measure, and I'm >sold. > >Until then, I would have to guess that the problem isn't actually with >Outlook itself, but some other step along the way. Sure, Pine displays the >messages fine -- it's quite lenient when it comes to messaging standards. >But somewhere out there, someone's sending mail that, either by their own >MUA or MTA, or the qmail-list's MTA, is not comformant to standards. > >Someone has mentioned previously that messages that have too many newlines >in the header (or something of that nature) will cause Outlook 2000 to barf. >Well, then -- a message like that violates the RFC's for e-mail, doesn't it? >Or am I wrong here. > >People say the same thing about Netscape / IE when a page doesn't appear >right. However, usually, it's the fault of the source HTML. A missing >quote or closing tag bracket may be ignored by one browser, and look really >odd in another one (one that's more strict). > >I guess the bottom line is: When it comes to reading e-mail, Outlook 2000 >(et. al.) are strict in what they're expecting, and messages that violate >the related standards cause it to choke in some fashion or another. > >To help debug this, I have enclosed a message that recently showed up in >Outlook with no "From:" in the message list, and with all message headers in >the body of the message (Outlook doesn't display any message headers, its >only fault, IMHO). > >Dustin > > >-------------[ begin bungled message ]------------- > >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: (qmail 25177 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2000 03:50:00 -0000 >Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu (131.193.178.181) > by el02-24-29-203-57.ce.mediaone.net with SMTP; 8 Jan 2000 03:50:00 -0000 >Received: (qmail 12846 invoked by uid 1002); 8 Jan 2000 03:50:01 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: (qmail 19521 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2000 03:50:01 -0000 >Received: from fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp (192.51.44.36) > by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 8 Jan 2000 03:50:01 -0000 >Received: from m1.gw.fujitsu.co.jp by fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp >(8.9.3/3.7W-MX9912-Fujitsu Gateway) > id MAA08812 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:49:38 > +0900 (JST) > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) >Received: from fsas.fujitsu.co.jp by m1.gw.fujitsu.co.jp >(8.9.3/3.7W-9912-Fujitsu Domain Master) > id MAA23535; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:49:37 +0900 (JST) >Received: from CL973712 (cl973710.fsas.fujitsu.co.jp [172.21.2.218]) > by fsas.fujitsu.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7WFsas Mail Server) with SMTP id >MAA07002 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:49:36 +0900 (JST) >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1-J >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:54:14 +0900 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Kristina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: SMTP error >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >I have qmail-smtpd setup using inetd. . >However when I try to send mail by >telnet localhost 25. I get the following error: > >502 unimplemented (#5.5.1) $B!!(B***ERROR HERE**** > >Does anyone know what may be causing this? > >Thanks in advance, >Kristina >P.S Sorry about the empty message before! > >-------------[ end bungled message ]-------------
