On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 02:20:37PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> petervd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 11:57:22AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> 
> >> I think he was saying that they were on ORBS instead, wasn't he?  There
> >> are lots of things on ORBS that aren't open relays; this is one of them
> >> (to my knowledge Network Solutions isn't actually relaying, only
> >> spamming their customer base on a depressingly regular basis).
> 
> > I have seen false positives on ORBS, but only due to cluelessness:
> > ORBSing the insertion point of a relay-abusable setup instead of the
> > machine that actually sends the mail out. But nothing more than that.
> 
> It's not a false positive per se; I think I remember this one.  MAPS
> refused to list Network Solutions for spamming due to the disruption it
> could cause with processing domain registrations, despite the fact that
> they *are* spamming, and ORBS said "well screw it, if you won't list them,
> we will."  Or at least that's what's surfacing from the murky depths of my
> uncertain memory.

I don't really think you remember this one, I administer the host that got
falsely (as in 'host properly configured') listed.

> ORBS is not strictly an open-relay list.

Hmm I see your point. Anyway, after the bugtraq-issue we removed ORBS from
our servers..

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
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