Above.net (at least) was added to ORBS because they blocked ORBS' 
unwanted probing. So now you've got to revise your statement below: 
ORBS blocks open relays and those _networks_ that refuse to be 
scanned.

Anyway, my point was that you will lose quite a bit of legitimate 
email if you block based on ORBS. If that's okay with you, fine. It's 
not for me.

jon

At 11:20 PM +0100 2/29/00, Ruben van der Leij wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 01:35:26PM -0800, Jon Rust wrote:
>
>> Yes, ORBS catches a ton of spam. It also labels a lot of email that
>> I'd like to see, as spam.
>
>But that wasn't what ORBS is about. ORBS stands for Open Relay Blocking
>System, and it does exactly that. It blocks open relays. Most current
>mailservers won't relay unless you specifically misconfigure them.
>
>You might want to block mail from such systems. People who are willing to
>sacrifice the security of their *own* networks in favour of a quick and
>dirty hack are perhaps not worthy of your trust.
>
>People with a couple of hunderd of megabits of bandwidth can do *serious*
>damage to your network..
>
>--
>
>Ruben

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