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On 2 Mar 00, at 9:35, Shera wrote:

> I asked about message 252 yesterday and was told that to have the smtp
> server not vrfy users was a security feature.  I do understand this
> perfectly.  But shouldn't this be an option for the sysadmin to turn
> off and on or to have a deny file to only allow certain people to
> access the vrfy command?

You did not listen? You were told, several times, that qmail can't 
do it and won't ever do it. Rewrite qmail if you need it.

>   There
> are times that I need to vrfy users from remote and in the past the
> easiest and only form I knew was through the smtp server, but now
> using qmail it is impossible.

Lots of other MTAs don't implement vrfy. What's your point?

>   I would just like to understand why
> qmail does not allow this to be an option as in sendmail.

Because qmail is not sendmail. If you want a megabyte binary with 
long history of buffer overflows running as root on your system, help 
yourself.

The first main design decision is to have qmail-smtpd as 
lightweight as possible. Even on a really loaded machine,
qmail-smtpd lives; why? Because it does not need to make a 
zillion system calls before queuing the message and indicating 
success.

The second decision comes from the existence of
.qmail-anything-default files. It's impossible to predict if the program 
there returns 100 (user does not exist) or 0 (exists).

Usually, making explicitely no effort is much better than making 
half-assed effort and fail. Do you buy this explanation?

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