On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 09:57:10AM +0200, Ruben van der Leij wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 12:43:01AM -0600, iv0 wrote:
> 
> > Probably a petition to the orbs site by qmail admins to tell them
> > to make a factual test.
> 
> Orbs does test. It tries to relay a message back to itself. If that message
> gets back, the box it tested is an open relay. 

and _only_ then.

> The situation where open relays are not marked as such because they are
> using some specific mailer is highly unwanted. See how you react to the
> following statement:

That is something else. You are now considering the case where a box that
_is_ an open relay is _not_ listed in ORBS.

> > Probably a petition to the orbs site by M$ Exchange admins to tell them
> > to make a factual test.
> 
> The debate wether or not relay-testing is good is not one for this list. But
> suggesting that relay-tests should be adapted to fit the most common
> configuration-errors of qmail is the wrong solution to the problem.

I think you are missing the point here, my dear friend..

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
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