At 11:53 PM -0500 3/31/00, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:
>Hi,
>
>From: "Paul Schinder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  At 3:06 PM -0500 3/31/00, Dave Sill wrote:
>>  >Do the spammers:
>>  >
>>  >   1) throw up their hands and admit defeat, or
>>  >   2) start using valid (but wrong) domains in their envelope return
>>  >      paths, thereby defeating your rejection and escalating the arms
>>  >      race?
>>  >
>>  >Note that many are already doing (2), of course.
>>
>>  I've had several emails using my @pobox.com address as the MAIL FROM
>>  bounced because spammers use phony @pobox.com addresses.  I've never
>>  seen a single spam that originated on pobox's servers.  Most of the
>>  spam I see comes from China or relay raped machines outside the US.
>>  And, of course, I've seen numerous pieces of spam with phony
>>  @yahoo.com, @hotmail.com, @aol.com, etc.
>>
>
>
>Maybe one way to deal with this is:
>1. verify that the domain of MAIL FROM is correct
>2. verify that the address of the server sending the mail
>    resolves to that domain...

That's not a good idea at all.  It defeats the entire purpose of a 
mail redirection service like pobox.  I use my @pobox.com address on 
all sorts of mail, but I've *never* used pobox's servers to send out. 
The mail goes out through a variety of routes.  All of the machines I 
send out from have resolvable IP's, but none of them are in pobox's 
domain.

>
>This is probably not the best answer, but if you apply that to some key
>domains, then you should be able to cut down on a fairly good volume of spam
>with fake addresses. Also it should be fairly easy to implement a scheme
>like this in qmail (although it also means more DNS lookups for a good
>number of incoming mail messages).
>
>
>Patrick.

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NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
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