qmail Digest 10 Apr 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 967

Topics (messages 39777 through 39798):

ref mailing list
        39777 by: Asif Ansari
        39778 by: Karsten Kaus

Re: Vapormail (was: Re: Problem: 552 max. message size exceeded)
        39779 by: Peter van Dijk

Root owns ALL mail !
        39780 by: c.raven.ukonline.co.uk
        39784 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen
        39785 by: c.raven.ukonline.co.uk

VPOPMAIL  SETUP
        39781 by: Hemanta Sharma
        39782 by: Jeff Commando Sherwin

Re: quick question (qmail-1.03)
        39783 by: Keith Warno

Newbie help
        39786 by: Boyd Kelly
        39787 by: Jeff Commando Sherwin

Defending qmail's odd file system to the great unwashed
        39788 by: Ben Beuchler
        39789 by: Russ Allbery
        39792 by: Russell Nelson

Re: qmail relay opened
        39790 by: Russell Nelson

Security on qmail server
        39791 by: jackie.MACRO.COM.HK
        39794 by: Russell Nelson

Re: About virtual domain and IP aliasing
        39793 by: Russell Nelson

Re: SMTPd questions...
        39795 by: Petr Novotny

Re: Unable to configure IMAP client
        39796 by: Gilberto Rodrigues

Re: QMQPD question
        39797 by: Henrik �hman

sort mail with qmail
        39798 by: Eric Poubeau

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Sorry to bother u,
But please tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing lost,bcoz
my mailbox is very small.
Regards and bye.
Asif.




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I think it would be a great idea to add the above line as a footer to
every
mail that is forwarded. We see these requests too often. This could also
stop
the forwarded messages containing only the subject: unsubscribe.

Karsten Kaus.

Asif Ansari wrote:

> Sorry to bother u,
> But please tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing lost,bcoz
> my mailbox is very small.
> Regards and bye.
> Asif.





On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 10:06:42PM +0200, Frank D. Cringle wrote:
> Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > "Soffen, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >I mean, How do you go from postfix to mail server (at least qmail and
> > >sendmail have the word MAIL in their titles).
> > 
> > Well, "post" is "mail", and "fix", well, I guess that means it fixes
> > mail problems (namely sendmail :-).
> 
> "fix" is colloquial for "quick" or "snappy" in German and possibly also in 
> Dutch.  Maybe that influenced Wietse's choice.

Uhm no, it's not, in Dutch.

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
|                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++




Hi,
I'm having a major problem with a new install of Qmail under FreeBSD 3.2.
Qmail was installed by a server management package and appears ok - except
all mail entering the qmail/queue/mess folders is being owned by root:

drwxr-x---   2 qmailq  qmail    512 Apr  8 22:11 .
drwxr-x---  25 qmailq  qmail    512 Dec 13 17:01 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root    qmail   2749 Apr  7 19:27 634892
-rw-r--r--   1 root    qmail  17998 Apr  8 22:11 634915


The Qmail deamons are running with the correct UID (AFAIK from the faq):

ps -aux gives:

qmails     279  0.0  0.1   836  468 con- I    Sat11AM   0:01.05 qmail-send
qmaill     291  0.0  0.1   780  476 con- I    Sat11AM   0:00.86 splogger
qmail
root       292  0.0  0.1   780  384 con- I    Sat11AM   0:00.32 qmail-lspawn
./Mail
qmailr     293  0.0  0.1   776  364 con- I    Sat11AM   0:00.01 qmail-rspawn
qmailq     294  0.0  0.1   768  388 con- I    Sat11AM   0:00.02 qmail-clean


and the mail is arriving ... it just can't be transferred to any user
popboxes:

Apr  9 18:13:47 ns1 qmail: 955300427.913207 delivery 1033: deferral:
Sorry,_message_has_wrong_owner._(#4.3.5)/
Apr  9 18:13:47 ns1 qmail: 955300427.913409 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20


.... as witnessed by /var/log/maillog.

If I chown the messages back to qmailq then the mail goes through .....
whats happening here? Is this fixable without a reinstall? I don't have
binaries as the qmail prog was bundled with a self installer.



Cheers,
Chris R.






+ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| I'm having a major problem with a new install of Qmail under FreeBSD 3.2.
| Qmail was installed by a server management package and appears ok - except
| all mail entering the qmail/queue/mess folders is being owned by root:

Most likely, that means that /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue is suid root.

It really should be suid qmailq:

-rws--x--x   1 qmailq   qmail       21220 Wed Sep 09 11:02:51 1998 
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue*

- Harald




Thanks, that was it!
All the files were owned by Root and Group Wheel .... uh oh !

Everything works ok now.

Cheers,
Chris R.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Harald Hanche-Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: Root owns ALL mail !


> + <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> | I'm having a major problem with a new install of Qmail under FreeBSD
3.2.
> | Qmail was installed by a server management package and appears ok -
except
> | all mail entering the qmail/queue/mess folders is being owned by root:
>
> Most likely, that means that /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue is suid root.
>
> It really should be suid qmailq:
>
> -rws--x--x   1 qmailq   qmail       21220 Wed Sep 09 11:02:51 1998
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue*
>
> - Harald
>





Hi all,

I've vpopmail in my RH6.1 box. Could anyone give me a good link other than 
inter7.com for a good refrence about it or guide me further what to do!! 
I'm totally confused!!

Thanks,

Hemanta Sharma





There is a seperate list for vpop thats very good: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For basic stuff, try the INSTALL file in the distribution. That will get
you running (assuming you have a solid install of qmail). vpop (i have
found) is not well documented, but the comments in the code and the user
list is very good.

Good luck.

jeff...


On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Hemanta Sharma wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've vpopmail in my RH6.1 box. Could anyone give me a good link other than 
> inter7.com for a good refrence about it or guide me further what to do!! 
> I'm totally confused!!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Hemanta Sharma
> 
> 





Thanks for the responses.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Warno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "qmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:55 PM
Subject: quick question (qmail-1.03)


Concerning uids and gids of the qmail system users:

Are the numeric uids and gids compiled into the qmail-1.03 programs, or are
the names used?

I'm assuming (after having some difficulties; read on) the numeric uids/gids
are compiled in.  Is this a correct assumption?  I moved qmail binaries from
one Linux box to another wich are identitical except for a few things, one
of them being the uids & gids of various accounts and groups.  qmail-start
yacked with a alert: cannot start: unable to switch to queue directory.

kw







Hi,

I have installed qmail from the rpm, + IMAP toolkit Environment
(imap-4.7)and all is working OK except...

If I use any other MUA except PINE (ie Messanger, Netscape etc) I can send
mail but the MUA doesn't see the mail in the user/Mailbox store.

What to I have to do to configure this so it works with any MUA?

Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Had a similar problem so I sym linked /var/spool/mail/$USER to
~$USER/Mailbox.

May not be the best fix, but it works. 

jeff...

On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Boyd Kelly wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have installed qmail from the rpm, + IMAP toolkit Environment
> (imap-4.7)and all is working OK except...
> 
> If I use any other MUA except PINE (ie Messanger, Netscape etc) I can send
> mail but the MUA doesn't see the mail in the user/Mailbox store.
> 
> What to I have to do to configure this so it works with any MUA?
> 
> Thanks
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 





While pushing for the implementation of qmail at work, the other admins
tend to attack rather inconsequential stuff, like it's somewhat odd file
structure ( /var/qmail/bin?  Who puts executables in /var??? ).  I like
the fact that that is the only thing they can find to disagree with, but
can anyone share the logic behind it?  I'm sure it must be irrefutable,
considering the source, but I can't seem to track down an explanation
anywhere...

Thanks,
Ben

-- 
"There is no spoon"
        -- The Matrix




Ben Beuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> While pushing for the implementation of qmail at work, the other admins
> tend to attack rather inconsequential stuff, like it's somewhat odd file
> structure ( /var/qmail/bin?  Who puts executables in /var??? ).

I do, all the time; I install INN in /var.  :)

> I like the fact that that is the only thing they can find to disagree
> with, but can anyone share the logic behind it?  I'm sure it must be
> irrefutable, considering the source, but I can't seem to track down an
> explanation anywhere...

I would assume it has something to do with the twin goals of putting the
mail queue in /var like it normally is and keeping all of qmail together
in the same place.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




Ben Beuchler writes:
 > While pushing for the implementation of qmail at work, the other admins
 > tend to attack rather inconsequential stuff, like it's somewhat odd file
 > structure ( /var/qmail/bin?  Who puts executables in /var??? ).  I like
 > the fact that that is the only thing they can find to disagree with, but
 > can anyone share the logic behind it?  I'm sure it must be irrefutable,
 > considering the source, but I can't seem to track down an explanation
 > anywhere...

The binaries are specific to the set of uids and gids assigned to the
qmail users.  The man pages are customized using the same compile-time 
options as the executables.  Therefore, all qmail files are specific
to the current machine they're running on therefore they belong in /var.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




Luis Bezerra writes:
 > Hello everyone,
 > 
 > my qmail MTA is accepting mails like
 > 
 > test%test.com.br
 > 
 > anyone has one patch for resolve this problem?

If you'll check, it will also accept mails like:

test-test.com.br
test.test.com.br
test&test.com.br
test=test.com.br
test$test.com.br
test#test.com.br
test!test.com.br
test+test.com.br

Why do you particularly find the percent character to be a problem.

Yes, yes, yes, I know, it's because somebody's spam test discriminates
against the percent character.  The poor maligned percent character!
There's a reason why it is singled out: discrimination.  Yes, Internet
discrimination rears its ugly head.  Too often the percent character
is singled out for mistreatment.  Is it one of the four primary
operators in C?  No, it's the bastard stepchild modulus operator.  Has
it been promoted in Python?  No, it's the formatted string operator.

Percent.  It just don't get no respect.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




Hello,

We are going to employ Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
(S/MIME) to our current system. Is qmail supporting this features? Which
version does it supports?

Thanks

Jackie





[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > Hello,
 > 
 > We are going to employ Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
 > (S/MIME) to our current system. Is qmail supporting this features? Which
 > version does it supports?

Qmail has nothing to do with S/MIME, PGP, or CryptoKong.  Qmail is
just a mail transfer agent.  Encryption happens at a higher layer in
the email protocol stack.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




Pablo Mart�nez Schroder writes:
 > I have some domains hosting in a computer, and I'm starting to apply
 > bandwith management over them, so I have each domain hosted in an IP.
 > With this I can control FTP and HTTP traffic, but I cannot manage the
 > SMTP traffic because mail is throwed from the "primary IP" of the
 > interface.
 > 
 > I think it's nearly impossible to send mails from an IP matching the
 > domain's IP, but is there any way?

It could be done, by binding to an interface matching the domain name
of the envelope sender of the mail.  However, qmail-remote doesn't do
it.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




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On 8 Apr 00, at 13:01, Scott D. Yelich wrote:

> (1) Is it better to write an SMTPd that is strict to the RFCs or
> lenient?  That is, where does one go to settle disputes -- or is it
> better to sit back and miss mail due to differences in interpreting
> the RFCs?  Ie: if an smtpd accepts bare linefeeds, etc., is that
> really all that bad on incoming?

The problem is - you need to send CR/LF forward. You can't be 
sure that simple changing LF to CR/LF is the right thing - you may 
be in the middle of binary data and LF should not be interpreted as 
"new line" there.

sendmail converts all bare LFs it sees to CR/LF. It may corrupt the 
mail, and it falsely assures the sender that his mails are OK. On 
the other hand, it doesn't ask the administrator to do anything.

You may run all incoming (and I mean ALL) mail through fixcrio. 
Then you don't need to care.

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--
Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
                                                             [Tom Waits]




Dave Sill wrote:
> 
> >I'm using qmail v1.03 and UW-IMAP 4.7b and both of them are running ok.
> 
> I don't think so, or you wouldn't be posting...

Ok... It would be better to say "both of them seem to be running ok".

> Did you install maildir patches for imap? Which ones?

I installed the following patches, provided by David Harris webpage:
maildir980721.patch.gz - maildir driver patch 
imap-4.5-qmail.patch - qmail file locations 
imap-4.5-createproto.patch - new folder format fixup 
imap-4.5-mdirlist.patch - maildir listing fixup 
imap-4.5-maildir980721-rename.patch - fix rename bug in maildir driver 
imap-4.5-maildir980721-delete.patch - fix folder delete bug in maildir
driver 

> >IMAP server directory: INBOX
> 
> Should that be Maildir?

I don't know. I also tried Maildir, but it didn't work. I tried to
follow some explanations which I read in a message posted in the list by
John Ellis in 1997, but it still didn't work.

Please, could anybody help me?

Regards,

Gilberto Rodrigues




Try..

strace -f -o qmtp.out -p `pidof qmtpd`

Henrik.

"Benjamin de los Angeles Jr ." wrote:

> What I didn't mention is that 'truss' seems to me, a command-line utility,
> unlike ptrace which is a C function.  Is there a command-line equivalent
> for ptrace?   I would not ask anyone to search for man pages for this,
> but if you know anything that is equivalent, _offhand_ is definitely ok.
> Besides, I'm saving this problem later, since I'm busy with another
> development project now.
>
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:56:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 12:42:05PM +0800, Benjamin de los Angeles Jr . wrote:
> > > I'm using Linux, what's the equivalent of truss for this platform?
> >
> > As a System Administrator, did you bother searching the man pages first?
> > Or are you asking us to search the man pages for you?
> >
> > Try man -k trace
> >





 My problem:
 
 I have a small server, and I dont want sent too big mail,
 so I want to sort e-mail BEFORE sending, catch too big mail,
 grep and convert attachements, re-sent mail with just a pointer to
 attachement and text/plain.
 
 How I can do?

 Thanks in advance

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