qmail Digest 10 May 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 997
Topics (messages 41400 through 41489):
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
41400 by: Mikko H�nninen
41401 by: Mikko H�nninen
41411 by: Peter van Dijk
41426 by: Bob Rogers
41427 by: Peter van Dijk
41446 by: Russell Nelson
41447 by: Russell Nelson
41448 by: Peter van Dijk
41450 by: Peter van Dijk
Re: Filtering out already delivered mail
41402 by: Len Budney
Re: Netscape and Microsoft Outlook
41403 by: R.Ilker Gokhan
41405 by: Mark Lo
41408 by: Mark Lo
Relaying with "FreeInternet"?
41404 by: James
41417 by: Vince Vielhaber
Manual for Qmail.
41406 by: Mark Lo
41407 by: Mark Lo
41416 by: Dave Sill
41460 by: Irwan Hadi
Re: qmail-smptd hung problem
41409 by: markd.bushwire.net
qmail cdb problem
41410 by: James
41414 by: Manfred Bartz
41418 by: Dave Sill
41428 by: spacetask.youwasahero.com
41440 by: Greg Owen
41471 by: James
Re: origins of Bracketed Quad notation
41412 by: Peter van Dijk
41463 by: David L. Nicol
41469 by: Peter van Dijk
Denying mail for a specific user
41413 by: Jerry Walsh
41433 by: Dave Sill
Feature request for sqWebMail
41415 by: Kaare Rasmussen
qmail-smtpd problem
41419 by: kapil sharma
need qmail setup help
41420 by: John Stile
41431 by: Kai MacTane
41432 by: Dave Sill
Manage QMail Queue manually
41421 by: Carlo Manuali
41422 by: Dave Sill
41425 by: Carlo Manuali
41429 by: Dave Sill
41473 by: Rogerio Brito
How do i unsubscribe
41423 by: Roy's Mail
41430 by: Dave Sill
41484 by: kingram
Re: qmail-inject
41424 by: Bob Rogers
41439 by: ino-waiting.gmx.net
Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues
41434 by: Matthew B. Henniges
41487 by: Flemming Funch
41489 by: Neil Schemenauer
chdir problem
41435 by: Martin Kos
How do you do it?
41436 by: Ben Beuchler
41438 by: Charles Cazabon
41441 by: Dave Sill
41442 by: Len Budney
41443 by: markd.bushwire.net
41445 by: Dave Sill
41449 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
41452 by: Steve Wolfe
41453 by: Peter van Dijk
41456 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
41472 by: Russ Allbery
41474 by: Rogerio Brito
41476 by: Peter van Dijk
41477 by: Len Budney
Re: Oh no ! A VBS file !!!
41437 by: Graphic Rezidew
qmail-smtp problem
41444 by: kapil sharma
41451 by: Dave Sill
Re: ezmlm question (revisited)
41454 by: Russell Nelson
I get this message when I telnet in
41455 by: Eric Fletcher
41458 by: Dave Sill
help with smtp
41457 by: Lael Heinig
41482 by: Bob Rogers
I get the following message when I telnet in
41459 by: Eric Fletcher
41461 by: Dave Sill
Re: Help with overwhelmed system
41462 by: Brad Johnson
41464 by: Johan Almqvist
41465 by: Peter van Dijk
41467 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
41468 by: Peter van Dijk
Prevent/counter spams from selective relays?
41466 by: Chin Fang
41470 by: Peter van Dijk
Re: VIRUS WARNING!!!!!!!
41475 by: alowe.hislora.com.au
MX vs virtualdomains.
41478 by: Marc-Adrian Napoli
41479 by: Dale Miracle
qmail+procmail+maildir
41480 by: bobski.netnet.net
41481 by: Ronny Haryanto
Maildrop or procmail
41483 by: Mark Lo
Error message=-> "Uh-oh:_.qmail_has_prog_delivery_but_has_x_bit_set._(#4.7.0)/ " ?
41485 by: Murat Guven Mucuk
mail filtering questions
41486 by: Xionghui Chen
Troubles!
41488 by: Jerry Walsh
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Patrick Bihan-Faou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000: > Exactly my point: if you use such email addresses you will make it difficult > for a lot of people to send you email. I know there is a reply button on > outlook and once your email is in my address book, I don't have to worry > anymore... But then I may have other problems (outlook love bug)... > > Plus the fact that it is tolerated by some email agents does not make it > right. You may also cause problems with some servers/clients that are not as > tolerant... My position would be: if it is not allowed by the standard, > don't do it. Hmmm, I guess you missed the paragraph in the original email, where I said that I know it's not a good idea to use such email addresses, and I'll only use it as a safety catch in case someone (ie. someone local) happens to use mikko.h�nninen@myserver instead of mikko.hanninen@myserver by accident. It's an easy enough mistake to make (for a Finn anyway). I wouldn't actually use such addresses, as in advertise or put them in my emails... If you have further questions please send them to me private since this doesn't involve qmail anymore, thanks. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko H�nninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / I am a signature virus. Please reproduce me in your signature block. :-)
Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000: > To belabor what is perhaps obvious by now, RFC822 forbids 8-bit > characters in the local-part of an address (or anywhere else, for that > matter). The key lines are as follows: > > atom = 1*<any CHAR except specials, SPACE and CTLs> > CHAR = <any ASCII character> ; ( 0-177, 0.-127.) > > I haven't actually seen this particular violation in use; has anybody > else? I'm not sure what you refer to with "this particular violation"; since I've seen subject headers that contained 8-bit characters. I've even sent them myself in the past (a long time ago), elm allowed one to send both From and Subject headers with 8bit character content, without MIME-encoding. Since my name contains an 8bit character I'm well familiar with the issue. It's kind of annoying, since my options are either to spell it wrong (Hanninen) or to use the real form which gets MIME-encoded and then doesn't display properly with every email client. Well, such is life. If you mean just the fact that someone puts an 8bit character in the actual recipient *email address*, no I've not seen that. Like I said elsewhere, I can conceive it as an easy mistake to make though, if someone is hand-typing my address. I'm not sure how email clients and servers would treat such a message, but if it gets as far as my server I think it would be nice if it gets delivered to me. :-) Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko H�nninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / God is REAL, unless explicitly declared INTEGER.
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: [snip RFC822 disallows 8-bit stuff] This is not relevant. RFC822 talks only about headers+body. The issue in this discussion is the SMTP (thus RFC821) addressing. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
From: Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:08:03 +0200 On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: [snip RFC822 disallows 8-bit stuff] This is not relevant. RFC822 talks only about headers+body. The issue in this discussion is the SMTP (thus RFC821) addressing. But SMTP address syntax is a subset of mail header address syntax, by design. So if 822 doesn't allow something, 821 certainly won't, am I right? I quoted 822 because I am more familiar with it. -- Bob Rogers
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: > From: Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:08:03 +0200 > > On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: > [snip RFC822 disallows 8-bit stuff] > > This is not relevant. RFC822 talks only about headers+body. The issue in > this discussion is the SMTP (thus RFC821) addressing. > > But SMTP address syntax is a subset of mail header address syntax, by > design. So if 822 doesn't allow something, 821 certainly won't, am I > right? I quoted 822 because I am more familiar with it. You do have a point there. Oh, please don't Cc me - I'm on the list. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > mikko.h�nninen@myserver and MIKKO.H�NNINEN@myserver, or do I need to > Oh, and you'd need a *lot* more than two qmail files if it didn't do > this. What if someone sent to extensions like Mikko, mIkko, miKko, etc? No, he only needs two: .qmail-mikko:h�nninen and .qmail-mikko:h�nninen -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Mikko H�nninen writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000: > > Correct. Uppercase LETTERS (my emphasis :>). The typical preciseness of these > > manpages suggests to me that if it says letters, then that's all it means, > > no more, no less...and a quick squizz at the source confirms this. > > Ahh, hmm. But �, � and � *are* letters in the Finnish alphabet, so by > that logic it should convert them? My point is that the man page is > *not* precise in this instance (it doesn't specify only English > letters), although it is possible that elsewhere it's stated that qmail > does not have locale support. But the documentation is written in English. "Letters" means 26 things when said in English, but when the same word is said in Finnish (Norwegian, Turkish, Russian, etc) it means more than 26 things. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:54:28PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: > Mikko H�nninen writes: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000: > > > Correct. Uppercase LETTERS (my emphasis :>). The typical preciseness of these > > > manpages suggests to me that if it says letters, then that's all it means, > > > no more, no less...and a quick squizz at the source confirms this. > > > > Ahh, hmm. But �, � and � *are* letters in the Finnish alphabet, so by > > that logic it should convert them? My point is that the man page is > > *not* precise in this instance (it doesn't specify only English > > letters), although it is possible that elsewhere it's stated that qmail > > does not have locale support. > > But the documentation is written in English. "Letters" means 26 > things when said in English, but when the same word is said in Finnish > (Norwegian, Turkish, Russian, etc) it means more than 26 things. This is not a correct point. What if written in an English book for learning Finnish? Letter is an ambiguous word to say the least. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:51:12PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > mikko.h�nninen@myserver and MIKKO.H�NNINEN@myserver, or do I need to > > > Oh, and you'd need a *lot* more than two qmail files if it didn't do > > this. What if someone sent to extensions like Mikko, mIkko, miKko, etc? > > No, he only needs two: > .qmail-mikko:h�nninen > and > .qmail-mikko:h�nninen That is what Mark is saying. Note the "if it didn't do this" part :) Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Jozef Hitzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a little tool I made to get rid of unwanted mail already > delivered to ~/Maildir/...It's not meant to replace on-delivery mail > filtering, but to supplement it. You might also want to look at maildircmd, my addition to the serialmail package. <http://www.nb.net/~lbudney/linux/software/maildircmd.html> It generally assumes that the maildir is a ``spool'', and that every message in it will be delivered somewhere (Delivering back to the spool is a recipe for infinite loops, of course). Since most MUAs use maildir as a spool, not a folder, you can use maildircmd compatibly with your existing setup. As a fringe benefit, it will automatically generate bounces if you want. Len. -- Frugal Tip #7: Manage a multifamily housing complex in the back seat of your SUV.
Title: RE: Netscape and Microsoft Outlook> Should I use pop-3 server comes with qmail
Yes.>and also Maildir.??? or others ???
You can use Maildir...Best regard,
Ilker G.
Hi, Thank you for your reply. Then how do i named them so my user can fill in the incoming mail server and outgoing mail server field in Netscape or MS. For example, My ISP gives the incoming mail server as pop.netvigator.com and outgoing mail server as mail.netvigator.com. is that mean I need two qmail server ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Mark, > I also have Netscape and Outlook -Clients with qmail-pop3d and > Maildir (this means pop and smtp server running on qmail- > machine). No problems so far. > You know Dave Sill's Life With Qmail > (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html)? > > Greetings > Thomas > > On 9 May 2000, at 13:22, Mark Lo wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to know what kind of MUAs do i need , if all of my > > client is using Netscape or Microsoft Outlook to retrieve e-mail. > > > > Should I use pop-3 server comes with qmail and also Maildir.??? or > > others ??? > > > > Thank You > > > > Mark Lo > > > >
Hi, Oh...you mean, if my smtp and pop server is at one machine, so i can give my user's outgoing mail server and incoming mail server the same name, is that right?? Thank You Mark Jerry Walsh wrote: > You don't need to name them , they don't need to have seperate ip's, they > don't need to be on seperate machines. > > In a nutshell: you can run a pop3 and smtp service on the same machine > without any problems at all. > > The only reason your ISP uses two different addresses is for load > balancing. (and the round robin dns ;) > > Jerry. > > At 07:56 PM 5/9/00 +0800, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > > Thank you for your reply. Then how do i named them so my user can fill > >in the incoming mail server and outgoing mail server field in Netscape or MS. > > > > For example, My ISP gives the incoming mail server as > >pop.netvigator.com and outgoing mail server as mail.netvigator.com. is that > >mean I need two qmail server ??? > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Hi Mark, > >> I also have Netscape and Outlook -Clients with qmail-pop3d and > >> Maildir (this means pop and smtp server running on qmail- > >> machine). No problems so far. > >> You know Dave Sill's Life With Qmail > >> (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html)? > >> > >> Greetings > >> Thomas > >> > >> On 9 May 2000, at 13:22, Mark Lo wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I would like to know what kind of MUAs do i need , if all of my > >> > client is using Netscape or Microsoft Outlook to retrieve e-mail. > >> > > >> > Should I use pop-3 server comes with qmail and also Maildir.??? or > >> > others ??? > >> > > >> > Thank You > >> > > >> > Mark Lo > >> > > >> > > > > -- > > Jerry Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aardvark IPL Fax +353 21 896040 > Morris house Tel +353 21 896060 > Douglas > Cork Ireland. http://www.aardvark.ie/ > > The package said Windows NT 4 or better - I installed UNIX
What if I have a client that will be using Free-i (http://www.freei.com/) or any of the current free Internet connections for his Internet connection to get and send mail? How do I allow relaying from that server? Is this possible without an open relay? james
On Tue, 9 May 2000, James wrote: > What if I have a client that will be using Free-i > (http://www.freei.com/) or any of the current free Internet connections > for his Internet connection to get and send mail? How do I allow relaying > from that server? Is this possible without an open relay? Look at smtp-poplock. There's a pointer at www.qmail.org. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
Hi, I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command "man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i download the official and fully explained function about man page. Thank You Mark Lo
Hi, I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command "man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i download the official and fully explained function about man page. Oh...I have read a mail regarding the man page of qmail, that messages stated that "the official man page has to be download individually. If yes, please indicate the location of the man page. Thank You Mark Lo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command >"man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i >download the official and fully explained function about man page. >Oh...I have read a mail regarding the man page of qmail, that messages >stated that "the official man page has to be download individually. If >yes, please indicate the location of the man page. Read the "man qmail" page. All those names with a number in parentheses are man pages, e.g: man dot-qmail man qmail-start etc. -Dave
At 08:02 PM 5/9/00 +0800, Mark Lo wrote: >Hi, > > I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command >"man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i >download the official and fully explained function about man page. http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html
It's safe to kill them. Certainly anything that is older than 24 hours is likely to be safe to kill. It is possible that your kill comes after the 250 OK is sent from the other end, but before qmail-smtpd communicates that to qmail-send, but the probability is lower as you leave the old qmail-smtpd running longer. Regards. On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:27:22PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm running qmail-1.03 w/vpopmail on a Solaris2.6 box and am > encountering the hung qmail-smptd's problem discussed here in > Feb. As no better way to solve it at this moment, I wonder if > I could just kill the hung qmail-smptd's. Is it safe to do so ? > Also, I wonder if anyone out there did encounter this problem as > an end user. I would like to know what (error message, or so) > it said when one's smtp connection got hung. Will this become > something like (from the sender's view) it seems the mail got sent but > it actually never be delivered due to the problem ? > > > Thanks in advance! > > ----------- > Wang-hua Li
In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one long line instead of two? james
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: > > "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: > echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp > /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" > > The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting > with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one > long line instead of two? You can also edit /etc/tcp.smtp with any text editor. It should have one line looking like this: 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" Then you can compile it using this command: tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp < /etc/tcp.smtp I can't look at ``Life With Qmail'' at the moment, there are some network problems between qmail.org and here. -- Manfred
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: > >"Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: >echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp >/usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" > >The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting >with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one >long line instead of two? No. What error did you get? -Dave
Did you symlink qmail to /usr/local/sbin? James wrote: > In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: > > "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: > echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp > /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" > > The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting > with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one > long line instead of two? > > james
> "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: > echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp > /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" > > The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second > line (starting with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. If you entered the second line with that " mark, that's your problem. Do it without the " mark. If you didn't actually use the " mark, then make sure you've created the symlink from /usr/local/sbin/qmail to /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail, as is described in LWQ. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greg Owen wrote: :If you entered the second line with that " mark, that's your :problem. Do it without the " mark. I didn't enter it with the " mark. :If you didn't actually use the " mark, then make sure you've created :the symlink from /usr/local/sbin/qmail to /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail, as is :described in LWQ. Well, when I try to create the symlink for /usr/local/sbin/qmail I get this message: "ln: /usr/local/sbin/qmail: File exists" Then, when I try to enter the second line(/usr/local/sbin/qmail) I get this message: "bash: /usr/local/sbin/qmail: No such file or directory." So... when I actually go to /usr/local/sbin/qmail I see a file there called qmail@ When I do an ls -la it shows me this: qmail -> /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail* What do I need to do? Did I miss a step somewhere? I tried to follow Life With Qmail step for step. Thanks. james
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 05:51:22PM -0400, Timothy L. Mayo wrote: > On Mon, 8 May 2000, David L. Nicol wrote: > > RFC 821 page 29 (Section 4.1.2 COMMAND SYNTAX) > > <mailbox> ::= <local-part> "@" <domain> > <domain> ::= <element> | <element "." <domain> > <element> ::= <name> | "#" <number> | "[" <dotnum> "]" > <dotnum> ::= <snum> "." <snum> "." <snum> "." <snum> > <snum> ::= one, two, or three digits representing a decimal integer value > in the range 0 through 255 > > The item you missed was the third form of the <element>. Note that this definition is incorrect, in that it allows stuff like [10.10.10.1].vuurwerk.nl I think this was superseded in a later RFC. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Peter van Dijk wrote: > [the 821] definition is incorrect, in that it allows stuff like > [10.10.10.1].vuurwerk.nl > > I think this was superseded in a later RFC. Thanks, all! I wonder if Postel meant for constructions such as Peter's error to signify numeric addresses internal to private networks. This would be in keeping with 821's emphasis on source routing. __________________________________________________________________ David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:12:52PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote: > Peter van Dijk wrote: > > > [the 821] definition is incorrect, in that it allows stuff like > > [10.10.10.1].vuurwerk.nl > > > > I think this was superseded in a later RFC. > > Thanks, all! > > I wonder if Postel meant for constructions such as Peter's error > to signify numeric addresses internal to private networks. This > would be in keeping with 821's emphasis on source routing. Hmm you do have a point. It's a shame we can't ask him anymore... :( Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Hi I am receiving alot of spam to an account which has since been disabled on my machine, how do i reject mail sent to this address without causing it to bounce to postmaster? TIA, Jerry.
Jerry Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am receiving alot of spam to an account which has since been disabled on >my machine, how do i reject mail sent to this address without causing it to >bounce to postmaster? You can't reject it during the SMTP dialogue, so your best bet is to throw it in the bitbucket. E.g., echo "#" >~user/.qmail -Dave
Two things I miss: 1. In Preferences: "Masquerade as". I call myself [EMAIL PROTECTED], but sqWebMail tells the world that I'm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Causing problems with mailing lists. 2. Sort by incoming order. A lot of people have their clock set wrong :-(
I am running qmail with redhat 6.1. When I try to send a message to some outside domain then it
gives me the error
"553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)"
Folowing is the session :
bash$ telnet 216.6.15.209 25
Trying 216.6.15.209...
Connected to 216.6.15.209.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 whlinux021.webhosting.com ESMTP
mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)I have also make entry for baniya.com in rcpthosts! Please advise?
-- Kapil Sharma Acube-software [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.acubesoftware.com
prob1. I can send mail, but I can't receive mail. /var/log/maillog says:delivery 82: deferral: Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/ status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 I created ~username/Maildir/ I created a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir/ (I assumed Maildir is a directory based on it's name, but it wasn't clear in the directions) I'm getting message notification: "You have mail in /var/spool/mail/jstile" But when I type mail, i see the message " /var/spool/mail/jstile: Is a directory" There are so many man pages, I'm not sure where to go back to. I've been through this 8 times, step by step. I did it all. Is there supposed to be some subdir in ~jstile/Maildir? Propb2. echo $MAIL= /var/spool/mail/jstile I followed the direction to switch to ~jstile/Maildir. Did I make the switch by making a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir? Help...
At 5/9/2000 07:41 AM -0700, John Stile wrote or quoted: >delivery 82: deferral: Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/ >status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > >I created ~username/Maildir/ >I created a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir/ >(I assumed Maildir is a directory based on it's name, but it wasn't >clear in the directions) > >Is there supposed to be some subdir in ~jstile/Maildir? Yes. All Maildirs should have directories in them named tmp, new, and cur. All four of these directories should be mode 700 and owned by the user whose mail is being delivered there. The easy way to create a Maildir for one user is to log in as that user, then run: maildirmake ~/Maildir You may need to give the full path to maildirmake; in that case, the path will normally be /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake. To make all new users have properly setup Maildirs in their home directories when their accounts are created, create a Maildir in your skeleton new-user directory (usually /etc/skel), like so: /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake /etc/skel/Maildir If you have a lot of preexisting user accounts that need Maildirs created for them, I believe there are some scripts on www.qmail.org that will do it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------- From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
John Stile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >delivery 82: deferral: Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/ >status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > >I created ~username/Maildir/ >I created a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir/ >(I assumed Maildir is a directory based on it's name, but it wasn't >clear in the directions) A Maildir is a Maildir, not just an empty directory. It should be created using maildirmake. >But when I type mail, i see the message " /var/spool/mail/jstile: Is a >directory" Your MUA apparently only handles mbox mailboxes. Try "qail" instead. >echo $MAIL= /var/spool/mail/jstile >I followed the direction to switch to ~jstile/Maildir. >Did I make the switch by making a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to >~jstile/Maildir? I can't figure out what you're asking or what you did. -Dave
Hi to all, I work at University and I have this problem: I've configured QMail Mail Server. My purpose is send mail not immediately, but I would that the messages stay in the queue for a few time. I would that when a ISDN router comes up, the "E-Mail start". In actual scenario, every time that I send a message the router comes up!!! I'm looking for an option like "-q15m" of sendmail..... Best Regards, P.S. Sorry, but my English is not very well. Carlo Manuali Centro d'Ateneo per i Servizi Informatici (CASI) University Of Perugia ITALY
Carlo Manuali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My purpose is send mail not immediately, but I would that the messages stay >in the queue for a few time. >I would that when a ISDN router comes up, the "E-Mail start". >In actual scenario, every time that I send a message the router comes up!!! D�j� vu... Install serialmail (ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/serialmail.html). Deliver outgoing mail to a Maildir (details provided upon request). Run maildir2smtp (from serialmail) on the spool Maildir when the ISDN link goes up. -Dave
At 10.54 09/05/2000 -0400, Dave Sill wrote: >Carlo Manuali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>My purpose is send mail not immediately, but I would that the messages stay >>in the queue for a few time. >>I would that when a ISDN router comes up, the "E-Mail start". >>In actual scenario, every time that I send a message the router comes up!!! > >D�j� vu... > >Install serialmail >(ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/serialmail.html). Deliver outgoing >mail to a Maildir (details provided upon request). Run maildir2smtp >(from serialmail) on the spool Maildir when the ISDN link goes up. > >-Dave > Ok, but my problem is on the serialmail... do you know other ways? I read something about -a switch... Regards, --Carlo Carlo Manuali Centro d'Ateneo per i Servizi Informatici (CASI) University of Perugia ITALY
Carlo Manuali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ok, but my problem is on the serialmail... Can you be more specific? The method I proposed *does* work if properly configured. -Dave
On May 09 2000, Carlo Manuali wrote: > Ok, but my problem is on the serialmail... > > do you know other ways? There may be many other ways indeed, but what is the problem with the solution Dave has proposed? I use it every day, since that's how I send my e-mail to my ISP's mail exploder. []s, Roger... P.S.: The command you should use is maildirsmtp. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. Then follow these directions. The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large "X" outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the blue button. The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the Cin-Eliminator to its storage position. You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the "List Guy" call button on the right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control panel. To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a "Shower seal" button. Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you activate the "Manual off" override switch by flipping it up. When you are ready to leave, press the blue "Shower seal" release button. The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and place them in their container. If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A & B. The knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by switching to the "ON" position the clearly marked red switch. If during the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the "manual off" override switch in the "OFF" position. You may now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you. -Dave, not the author
Dave Sill wrote: > > First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. Then > follow these directions. <cut> > > -Dave, not the author :o)))))))))))))))))))))))))) (not to many?) It was GREAT - Try to write a books (not about computing of course) -- Best Regards from Poland Krzysztof Ingram - secondary root where the power of Linux / is the first FF Computers Sp. z o.o. Bielsko-Biala mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ffcomp.com.pl
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:53:33 +0200 > Bob Rogers (Mon 08.0500-23:47): > Not here, but that may not mean much. My guess is that mutt is > expecting the named program to be sendmail-compatible and is passing it > extra options, but qmail-inject is not taking sendmail options. Try > > set sendmail="/var/qmail/bin/sendmail" ok, thorough procedure requires me to try. but i checked with the original sendmail and qmail's wrapper for qmail-inject of the same name: neither takes "-B". Hmm. On my Red Hat 6.0 system, "man sendmail" (for the sendmail 8.9.3 version originally installed) explains "-B" as follows: -Btype Set the body type to type. Current legal values [are] 7BIT or 8BITMIME. And my local /var/qmail/bin/sendmail (qmail 1.03) does ignore -B: rgr> /var/qmail/bin/sendmail -t to: rogers subject: test foo bar rgr> /var/qmail/bin/sendmail -t -Bfoo to: rogers subject: test more testing. rgr> I got both of these test messages. So, as long as you use /var/qmail/bin/sendmail, this looks like an unrelated mutt configuration problem, eh? Maybe *you* have to specify the "-t" explictly . . . ? But I've never used mutt, so that's just a guess. -- Bob Rogers
> Bob Rogers (Tue 09.0500-11:04): > Hmm. On my Red Hat 6.0 system, "man sendmail" (for the sendmail 8.9.3 > version originally installed) explains "-B" as follows: > > -Btype Set the body type to type. Current legal values [are] > 7BIT or 8BITMIME. mine too. my mistake. > And my local /var/qmail/bin/sendmail (qmail 1.03) does ignore -B: yes. didn't check that upto now. the only thing i did find out was, that the error appeared with messages containing characters from the charmap {127..255}. happens in germany ("umlauts"). mutt must have tried to set "-B" automatically to get 8-bit chars through. man, you wouldn't believe how often i tried and experimented until i found out. this hasn't happened any more. had i not overlooked that darned -B8BITMIME flag... -- clemens ([EMAIL PROTECTED], pgp key available)
>I have a question about qmail regarding its mail handling capacity..... >How many remote emails can qmail send simulataneously, assuming it is run >on a Dual-CPU PIII 500Mhz with 512Mb RAM and a SCSI hard disk? The internet >bandwidth is 10 Mbps. On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k scsi drives (one for /var/qmail/queue, one for /var/log, one for /usr/home) concurrency remote at 500 concurrency local at 50 FreeBSD 3.4-S localhost dnscache It will push 12 Million on a good day. (4% local delivery). This is qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency + qmailqueue >What is the general number of emails that a machine with the above >specifications can send per second/hour/day? How do I fine-tune it to send >off millions? I only know of changing the "concurrencyremote" figure in >/var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote. I set it to 100 for testing. What >should be a good figure assuming that I will do free email hosting on the >server for hundreds of thousands of users? whoa there...hundreds of thousands of users? You are going to need much better disk performance than one scsi disk will give you. More info below >I have also noticed that some free email services like Yahoo also uses >QMail (if I'm not mistaken). They have millions of users, so I assume they >host the email service on multiple machines. I think that's a safe bet. >How is it possible to do >load-balancing for emails on multiple machines? 'cause everyone will have >an email address like [EMAIL PROTECTED], but how does Yahoo redirect >portions of users to different machines for mail receival/sending? Well, I don't work at yahoo, but off the top of my head something like this comes to mind: nfs1.dom.com has a large, fast raid array attached to it. smtp1.dom.com smtp2.dom.com smtp3.dom.com ... smtpn.dom.com are all servers running qmail/qmail-smtpd. There are set up to do local delivery to maildirs in /usr/home/popuser (For more information on running multiple pop boxes under one UID, follow some links on the qmail home page (like vpopmail and pop toaster). /usr/home/popuser is mounted via nfs from the machine nfs1.dom.com via a separate 100mbit ethernet segment. pop1.dom.com pop2.dom.com pop3.dom.com ... popn.dom.com are all servers running qmail-pop3d and friends... There serve the pop boxes from /usr/home/popuser, which they mount from nfs1.dom.com smtp.dom.com points to smtp1, smtp2, smtp3 ... pop.dom.com points to pop1, pop2, pop3 ... That setup should be able to scale pretty well, as long as the NFS box is up to the challenge... (quad zeon connected to 3 firewire raid 5 arrays and running software raid 0 over them? :D) This sound reasonably to the rest of you? Matthew B. Henniges CoPresident Axl.net Communications http://www.axl.net (203) 552-1714
At 09:39 AM 5/9/2000, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: >On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k scsi drives (one for >/var/qmail/queue, one for /var/log, one for /usr/home) >concurrency remote at 500 >concurrency local at 50 >FreeBSD 3.4-S >localhost dnscache > >It will push 12 Million on a good day. (4% local delivery). > >This is qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency + qmailqueue I'm green with envy. Now, I administer around 6 qmail servers. Typically a dual-600PIII with 1G of RAM, with /var on a 10K SCSI, and everything else on other disks. I also use qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency. Remote concurrency set for 200. Queue set for a split of 293. Linux RH6.1 or 2. Outgoing mail is handled on different servers than the incoming. The machines are co-located on several different networks with plenty of bandwidth. The machines are mostly sending out daily newsletters which are being fed in from another machine by smtp or qmtp (seems to make no difference in performance which I use), and I've experimented with various numbers of incoming smtp processes. If I'm sending more in more than a couple of smtp connections at the same time (e.g. 10 or 20), concurrent remote processes drop to a crawl of 2-10, the machine's load gets really high, 6-20, and the queue gets filled up quickly. If nothing is coming in, the remote processes usually are 20-80, and only on a very rare occasion would get close to my 200 concurrencyremote. So .. eh... would it likely be my disk I/O that slows it down (how do I test that?), or should I be switching to FreeBSD, or am I doing something stupid? What is localhost dnscache about? A local name server, to limit outgoing DNS lookups? - Flemming
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:30:53AM -0700, Flemming Funch wrote: > So .. eh... would it likely be my disk I/O that slows it down > (how do I test that?), or should I be switching to FreeBSD, or > am I doing something stupid? You should find the bottleneck before you jump to any conclusions. What version of the Linux kernel are you using? Do you have any strange looking error messages in your log files? What does "vmstat 1" show? Perhaps you should install sar(sp?) and profile your disk IO. Regarding FreeBSD... <rant> The VM system in Linux 2.2 and 2.3 is fucked. I am (used to be?) a big fan of Linux but I can't believe what is happening on linux-kernel lately. Rather than sitting down and figuring out the problems people just keep screwing around with things hoping somehow it will get fixed. Things have gotten progressively worse. The latest kernel (pre7) is a joke. Many people report their system is unusable. The 2.4 release is approaching. Now is not the time to be totally overhauling the VM code. Being unafraid to shake things up and change code is one thing but this is ridiculous. The same thing happened before the 2.2 release. Major changes were made right up to the release. I think significant changes happened even in the 2.2 releases (people say 2.2.10 is better than 2.2.15). David Miller is supposed to be working on a new design similar to the FreeBSD VM. I still have some faith that he will do a good job. In the mean time I have installed FreeBSD-stable on an extra partition and am planning my cutover. </rant> Okay, I'm feeling much better now. Sorry for that. If it doesn't cost you too much time, trying FreeBSD would be a very interesting experiment. If you do switch would you mind posting a summary of the results? Neil -- Segmentation fault (core dumped)
hi all i've a problem.... ;-) i have some mails in my queue that qmail want deliver, it always gives me the following errormessage: delivery 127: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ what is going wrong ? .. i have restarted qmail and now its working normal again and is delivering mails to this user, but the mails in the queue are still there with the same error message. any solutions for that ? pleease :( greets Martin
I have a simple, non-qmail question: How do you do it? You write and maintain a massive quantity of qmail documentation. You seem to post more responses to more questions on the list than is humanly possible! Many of the questions are rather inane, and yet the closest thing I've seen to an explosion is your recent humorous 'unsubscribe' post... Despite the relatively frequent abrasive responses. I'm assuming you have a real life... Ben -- Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him helpless. - Monty Python
Ben Beuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a simple, non-qmail question: > > How do you do it? You write and maintain a massive quantity of qmail > documentation. You seem to post more responses to more questions on the > list than is humanly possible! Many of the questions are rather inane, > and yet the closest thing I've seen to an explosion is your recent > humorous 'unsubscribe' post... Despite the relatively frequent abrasive > responses. > > I'm assuming you have a real life... Ssh. "Dave Sill" is actually an experimental AI. :) Charles -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ben Beuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How do you do it? You write and maintain a massive quantity of qmail >documentation. You seem to post more responses to more questions on the >list than is humanly possible! Many of the questions are rather inane, >and yet the closest thing I've seen to an explosion is your recent >humorous 'unsubscribe' post... Despite the relatively frequent abrasive >responses. > >I'm assuming you have a real life... Well, LWQ was a *lot* of work when I was actively writing it, but it takes a lot less to keep it maintained--although it deserves more attention than it gets, and there's lots of stuff I'd add to it if I had the time. I have a procmail script that answers most of the easy list questions. :-) I'm a pretty laid-back person, and I've been in customer service long enough to deal effectively with inanity. I might think "AARRGGHH!! RTF{M|FAQ|LWQ} you dolt!", but that rarely ends up in the response. I have a full "real life", which is why I don't always respond quickly to list questions. -Dave
Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm a pretty laid-back person, and I've been in customer service long > enough to deal effectively with inanity. I might think "AARRGGHH!! > RTF{M|FAQ|LWQ} you dolt!", but that rarely ends up in the response. At FORE systems we had a phone support person who would shout those things, so loud that everybody in building one could hear it. He was astoundingly imaginative and colorful, and many of his remarks are not printable. Eventually, somebody spied on his work, and noticed that he was deftly using the mute button on his phone. He could interject these incredible outbursts, while speaking levelly and courteously at all times to the customer. Amazing. Len. -- Frugal Tip #55: Get yourself a realistic-looking mongoose costume. Then, rent yourself out to somebody who wants a rented mongoose.
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:22:46PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: > I have a full "real life", which is why I don't always respond quickly > to list questions. Does it perchance involve empty beer bottles :> In fact Dave, couldn't be a nicer guy. He once swapped something of value with me for a couple of beer bottles. The nice thing? Dave wanted them emptied before I sent them. How could I resist :> Regards.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:22:46PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: > >> I have a full "real life", which is why I don't always respond quickly >> to list questions. > >Does it perchance involve empty beer bottles :> See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/beer.html Or, for the bigger picture of my life: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/dave.html >In fact Dave, couldn't be a nicer guy. Sure I could. :-) But I'm as nice as I want to be. >He once swapped something of value >with me for a couple of beer bottles. The nice thing? Dave wanted them >emptied before I sent them. How could I resist :> Well, now, they didn't *have* to be empty... -Dave
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Len Budney wrote: >At FORE systems we had a phone support person who would shout those >things, so loud that everybody in building one could hear it. He was >astoundingly imaginative and colorful, and many of his remarks are not >printable. > >Eventually, somebody spied on his work, and noticed that he was deftly >using the mute button on his phone. He could interject these >incredible outbursts, while speaking levelly and courteously at all >times to the customer. Amazing. > >Len. That would work great, until your finger slipped off the mute button on accident, or it failed to work one time :) _ __ _____ __ _________ ______________ /_______ ___ ____ /______ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [---------------------------------------------[system info]-----------] 12:15pm up 105 days, 19:12, 6 users, load average: 0.05, 0.28, 0.32
> >At FORE systems we had a phone support person who would shout those > >things, so loud that everybody in building one could hear it. He was > >astoundingly imaginative and colorful, and many of his remarks are not > >printable. > > > >Eventually, somebody spied on his work, and noticed that he was deftly > >using the mute button on his phone. He could interject these > >incredible outbursts, while speaking levelly and courteously at all > >times to the customer. Amazing. > > > >Len. > > That would work great, until your finger slipped off the mute button on > accident, or it failed to work one time :) Back in the day when I did tech support, that sort of thing wasn't uncommon at all. We were all pretty good at doing things like carrying on conversations with other techs, playing hackysack, etc., while helping customers, unbeknownst to them. Every once in a while, we'd get a "noisy" mute button that would click, and if they asked what it was, we'd just tell them in was phone noise. As to forgetting the mute button was on, I once found out the hard way that the phone's mute button *didn't work*, when I muttered "moron", and the customer heard me... : ) I wish I could go on about the things that people said to me, the things I said to people, and the things I heard other techs say - but it would be a novel. Technical support is definitely a unique learning experience.... steve
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 12:30:01PM -0600, Steve Wolfe wrote: [snip] > > Back in the day when I did tech support, that sort of thing wasn't > uncommon at all. We were all pretty good at doing things like carrying on > conversations with other techs, playing hackysack, etc., while helping > customers, unbeknownst to them. Every once in a while, we'd get a "noisy" > mute button that would click, and if they asked what it was, we'd just tell > them in was phone noise. Our helpdeskers when they're just back from MacDonalds picking up food: 'let me look that up for you' *switch to mute* *scrunch scrunch gobble scrunch scrunch slurp* *fix stuff* *switch mute off* 'sir? hi. blah blah' Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Steve Wolfe wrote: > Back in the day when I did tech support, that sort of thing wasn't >uncommon at all. We were all pretty good at doing things like carrying on >conversations with other techs, playing hackysack, etc., while helping >customers, unbeknownst to them. Every once in a while, we'd get a "noisy" >mute button that would click, and if they asked what it was, we'd just tell >them in was phone noise. Well, i dont have a mute button on my phone here, but i just turn my speakers down and continue to frag people away in tribes... :) > As to forgetting the mute button was on, I once found out the hard way >that the phone's mute button *didn't work*, when I muttered "moron", and >the customer heard me... : ) I've yelled "at" customers after i've hung up, but there have been times when i didnt hang up, and you never know if the customer heard you or not. You thought you hit the hang up button, but didnt, you know what i mean? :) > I wish I could go on about the things that people said to me, the things >I said to people, and the things I heard other techs say - but it would be >a novel. Technical support is definitely a unique learning experience.... > >steve Oh god. I do tech support for the internet and computer store here, trust me, i have some doozies of my own :) _ __ _____ __ _________ ______________ /_______ ___ ____ /______ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [---------------------------------------------[system info]-----------] 12:55pm up 105 days, 19:52, 6 users, load average: 0.37, 0.31, 0.45
Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wish I could go on about the things that people said to me, the things > I said to people, and the things I heard other techs say - but it would > be a novel. Technical support is definitely a unique learning > experience.... No kidding. Taught me the importance of having a chatserver, IRC channel, or *something* like that real time where you can bitch about stuff with other people without having to stop what you're doing. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
On May 09 2000, Ben Beuchler wrote: > I have a simple, non-qmail question: > > How do you do it? You write and maintain a massive quantity of qmail > documentation. You seem to post more responses to more questions on the > list than is humanly possible! Many of the questions are rather inane, > and yet the closest thing I've seen to an explosion is your recent > humorous 'unsubscribe' post... Despite the relatively frequent abrasive > responses. > > I'm assuming you have a real life... Dave is impressive, indeed. But Dan's got to get the prize. Let's see. The man is a teacher, active researcher writing papers about Number Theory (that's what I want to be when I grow up) and a better system administrator than most system administrators out there. Not only that, he knows the finer points (read: "bugs") about many software releases (namely, BIND, sendmail, Apache etc) and inconsistences on RFCS. I even doubt that he is a real person, you know. Maybe he is a new Bourbaki. :-) Which doesn't mean that Dave isn't impressive. :-) BTW, where are the qmail t-shirts? :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:25:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I wish I could go on about the things that people said to me, the things > > I said to people, and the things I heard other techs say - but it would > > be a novel. Technical support is definitely a unique learning > > experience.... > > No kidding. Taught me the importance of having a chatserver, IRC channel, > or *something* like that real time where you can bitch about stuff with > other people without having to stop what you're doing. _now_ I know how our helpdeskers keep on going. And why they shout at me on IRC all day :) Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I even doubt that he is a real person, you know. Maybe he is a new > Bourbaki. :-) Which doesn't mean that Dave isn't impressive. :-) Hey! Bourbaki was my thesis advisor! He's a real sweet quy. Len. -- The Tinker Bell approach--clap if you believe--just won't cut it. -- Warren Buffet, Fortune, 1999
Speaking of (un)awareness: This script is inaccurately called a virus. On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:19:56AM +0200, Kent Nilsen wrote: > The problem is that these viruses are based on user > stupidity/unawareness. A script attached to a mail sent to a Linux > system would do just as much damage to files the user has full > access to. If a user doubleclicks an unknown attachment in > Windows, you can bet he'd do the neccesary things to open the > script in Linux too. > > So though I agree that moving to Linux is smart for a lot of people, > Linux would be just as vulnerable if some spotty teen with a big > brain wanted to do some damage to Linux users. > > Kent > > > This is just another reason to stop using microsoft, I bet you can > > make linux use easier for your employee's, just use X-terminals (from > > NCD for instance) and make a nice KDE or the like desktop for your > > user's, corel office should be alright for professional use, paradox > > is almost finished... So no reason to use ms right ? > > > > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The word "spine" is, of course, an anagram of "penis". This is true in almost fifty percent of the languages of the Galaxy, and many people have attempted to explain why. Usually these explanations get bogged down in silly puns about "standing erect". -- Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Graphic Rezidew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am running qmail with redhat 6.1. When I try to send a message to some outside domain then it gives me the error "553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)" Folowing is the session : bash$ telnet 216.6.15.209 25 Trying 216.6.15.209... Connected to 216.6.15.209. Escape character is '^]'. 220 whlinux021.webhosting.com ESMTP mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) I have also make entry for baniya.com in rcpthosts! Please advise? -- Kapil Sharma Acube-software [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.acubesoftware.com
kapil sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >bash$ telnet 216.6.15.209 25 >Trying 216.6.15.209... >Connected to 216.6.15.209. >Escape character is '^]'. >220 whlinux021.webhosting.com ESMTP >mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >250 ok >rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) > >I have also make entry for baniya.com in rcpthosts! Please advise? This is a FAQ. See: ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/faq/servers.html#authorized-relay -Dave
GARY GENDEL writes: > I just noticed that the qmail list server puts itself as a carbon-copy. Is > this preferred over a reply-to? In any event, how do I set this up? Actually, ezmlm doesn't do anything to the headers. The mail goes out in the same form it came in -- as the user wrote it. Many email clients lack a "Reply to Recipient" command, so when the user does a "Reply To All", it goes back to the author of the email, with a cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
OK, time to look stupid..... I get the following message when I telnet in grep: /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc: No such file or directory I thought I followed Dave Sill's instructions carefully in Life with Qmail and the Install instructions in the source package. Obviously, I missed something. I'm using Dave's script to start/stop/restart Qmail I'm running RH 6.1 Any suggestions other than quit now while you're still ahead. Thanks for any help -- Eric Fletcher
Eric Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I get the following message when I telnet in > >grep: /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc: No such file or directory > >I thought I followed Dave Sill's instructions carefully in >Life with Qmail and the Install instructions in the source >package. Obviously, I missed something. You've apparently confused/combined /var/qmail/rc and /var/qmail/control/defauldelivery and added a little innovation of your own (grep). So, what do you have in these two files? Wait a minute...you get that when you telnet to port 25? That's not good... -Dave
Hi, I am trying to use the qmail-smtpd program. Every time I try to specify the recipient, I get the following message: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) I did a man on the qmail-smtpd program and it mentions something about a rcpthosts file. How do I set that up. Is that my problem? Thanks, Lael Heinig
From: Lael Heinig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 12:06:12 -0700 Hi, I am trying to use the qmail-smtpd program. Every time I try to specify the recipient, I get the following message: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) I did a man on the qmail-smtpd program and it mentions something about a rcpthosts file. How do I set that up. With a text editor. Is that my problem? Thanks, Lael Heinig Yes. http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html#14 -- Bob Rogers
I'll keep doing this through the mailing list so I can expose myself to the whole tech world ;-) Eric Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I get the following message when I telnet in > >grep: /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc: No such file or directory > >I thought I followed Dave Sill's instructions carefully in >Life with Qmail and the Install instructions in the source >package. Obviously, I missed something. You've apparently confused/combined /var/qmail/rc and /var/qmail/control/defauldelivery and added a little innovation of your own (grep). I'm not grepping anything unless I did it in my sleep. So, what do you have in these two files? This is in /var/qmail/rc: #!/bin/sh exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" qmail-start "`cat /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery`" It's all on one line as my Linux installation sometimes stumbles on continuation / This is in /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery: ./Mailrdir/ The leading dot is in there also. Qmail delivers received mail to the appropriate ./Maildir Wait a minute...you get that when you telnet to port 25? That's not good... No, just telnet in on port 23. The message is displayed as if it were the logon greeting. -Dave Eric
Eric Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>I get the following message when I telnet in >>> >>>grep: /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc: No such file or directory >> >>Wait a minute...you get that when you telnet to port 25? That's not >>good... > >No, just telnet in on port 23. The message is displayed as if it were >the logon greeting. Oh. Hmm. Does this happen for other users? Run the following as root: find / -type f -exec grep defaultdelivery {} /dev/null \; That should identify the source of the message. Obviously, /var/qmail/rc should contain a match. Anything else is suspect. -Dave
Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. I was sending out about 100,000 messages through the box. It churned through about 50,000, but with the queue at around 35,000, it started choking and stopped accepting new messages: May 9 09:55:36 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:55:36 free qmail: 957866136.697686 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... May 9 09:55:46 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:55:46 free qmail: 957866146.705195 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... May 9 09:55:56 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:55:56 free qmail: 957866156.715425 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... May 9 09:56:06 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:56:06 free qmail: 957866166.728117 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 297663 80875 192975 30% 1043 73835 1% / /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 1066683 27% 65823 335647 16% /usr /dev/wd0s1e 396895 121201 243943 33% 99832 6 100% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% 28 504 5% /proc This is what I suspect I need to do. 1) Add more memory to the box. I know how to do this. 2) Get qmail working concurrently. I know how to do this: qmail FAQ 8.1 3) Set an inode limit on qmailq (??) I don't know if I should do this and I don't know how to do this. 4) Fix the filesystem somehow. Something like increasing the # of available inodes, partitioning? I don't know how to do this. I know this is semi-off-topic. 5) do the the "Patches for high-volume servers" http://qmail.org/top.html#large I'm not sure if this would be necessary. Maybe 1-4 (or something else?) would be sufficient.
Hi! On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: > Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM > and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused > Mounted on > /dev/wd0s1a 297663 80875 192975 30% 1043 73835 1% / > /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 1066683 27% 65823 335647 16% /usr > /dev/wd0s1e 396895 121201 243943 33% 99832 6 100% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% 28 504 5% > /proc Your /var partition is obviously full. Too bad. Move stuff in dirs under /var to other physical disks and soft link them back into /var? -Johan -- Johan Almqvist
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: > Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM > and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. [snip scary stuff] > > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused > Mounted on > /dev/wd0s1a 297663 80875 192975 30% 1043 73835 1% / > /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 1066683 27% 65823 335647 16% /usr > /dev/wd0s1e 396895 121201 243943 33% 99832 6 100% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% 28 504 5% > /proc > > > This is what I suspect I need to do. > 1) Add more memory to the box. > I know how to do this. This is a good idea, but completely unrelated to this problem. > 2) Get qmail working concurrently. > I know how to do this: qmail FAQ 8.1 It works concurrently already. This too won't help fixing this problem. > 3) Set an inode limit on qmailq (??) > I don't know if I should do this and I don't know how to do this. No, you shouldn't. It's running out of inodes already. > 4) Fix the filesystem somehow. > Something like increasing the # of available inodes, partitioning? This is the problem, yes. You seem to have one inode per 4kbyte of diskspace. This should always be sufficient. Something is eating lots of inodes on your disk. This might just be the qmail queue. Hmm this is problematic. I just realized that for a disk to run out of space before it runs out of inodes with qmail you need 1 inode per 1k. Yes, you need more inodes. Is there some other server that _can_ handle these kinds of loads, that you can relay to? Try getting rid of as much of these messages (put ":relayhost.dom.com" in /var/qmail/control/smtproutes and -HUP qmail-send), and when your queue is empty, re-create it with 1inode per kbyte. > I don't know how to do this. I know this is semi-off-topic. man newfs should help you. Note that your whole /var is on that partition, so backup everything before you do. > 5) do the the "Patches for high-volume servers" > http://qmail.org/top.html#large > I'm not sure if this would be necessary. Maybe 1-4 (or something else?) > would be sufficient. And this is another one that is not related to the problem. All your thoughts except nr. 3 are good thoughts, but only 4 fixes this problem. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
His disk has plenty of physical capacity left, but is out of inodes. He's asking if it's possible to increase the amount of inodes, since he still has space left. On Tue, 9 May 2000, Johan Almqvist wrote: >Hi! > >On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: >> Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM >> and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. >> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused >> Mounted on >> /dev/wd0s1a 297663 80875 192975 30% 1043 73835 1% / >> /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 1066683 27% 65823 335647 16% /usr >> /dev/wd0s1e 396895 121201 243943 33% 99832 6 100% /var >> procfs 4 4 0 100% 28 504 5% >> /proc > >Your /var partition is obviously full. Too bad. Move stuff in dirs under >/var to other physical disks and soft link them back into /var? > >-Johan >-- >Johan Almqvist > _ __ _____ __ _________ ______________ /_______ ___ ____ /______ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [---------------------------------------------[system info]-----------] 3:20pm up 105 days, 22:17, 6 users, load average: 0.03, 0.11, 0.18
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:01:11PM +0200, Johan Almqvist wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: > > Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM > > and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused > > Mounted on > > /dev/wd0s1a 297663 80875 192975 30% 1043 73835 1% / > > /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 1066683 27% 65823 335647 16% /usr > > /dev/wd0s1e 396895 121201 243943 33% 99832 6 100% /var > > procfs 4 4 0 100% 28 504 5% > > /proc > > Your /var partition is obviously full. Too bad. Move stuff in dirs under > /var to other physical disks and soft link them back into /var? That will only help for a very short time. The thing chewing up inodes _is_ his qmail-partition, so moving stuff will do little good. I'm about to fix some partitions too, here, to make sure I don't get this problem too. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
A couple days ago, I suddenly got a lot bounced messages (I am a postmaster). Looking into their envelopes further, I realized actually they all orginated from a web server in our server cluster. Our qmail is implemented with anti-relay mechanism, but all web servers are selective relays - to allow users' form submissions to go through the mail servers. But these bounces didn't look like like from our users. I got curious and decided to track down the real cause. It turned out a user here thought putting up a web mail CGI program was a fun thing to do :( However, since the poorly written web mail CGI didn't do any authentication or verifications, so *anyone* on the Internet can use it to send to any place, and indeed, some freaks did just that! In a way this user defeated our anti-relay mechanism implemented on the mail servers. Messages generated by form submissions should be allowed to relay through the mail servers. But the above Web mail CGI program is certainly not in the same category. The user is notified, chastised, and told firmly to remove the offending CGI script. But, this incidence has left me wondering whether we can do anything to counter (or even better, prevent) such "internal spam" via selective relays in the future? People tend to repeat others mistakes :( We can setup user policies, but we also know they are rarely read by users :( I have been thinking how to deal with this, but a fact, that messages from the web servers generally only have the web server's identity (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) in the From line, makes it difficult to single the offending ones. Of course, we can run double qmail queues, with a message checking process runing between the two queues filtering out troublesome ones. But this is a really heavy weight approach, not to mention it will eat into our already busy schedule. I wonder whether there are some efficient/light weight approaches that I might have missed? Any hints are appreciated. Regards, Chin Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 02:01:48PM -0700, Chin Fang wrote: [snip] > > I have been thinking how to deal with this, but a fact, that messages > from the web servers generally only have the web server's identity > (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) in the From line, makes it difficult to > single the offending ones. The headers should have reliable time stamps. Match up these timestamps with your webserver logs. Tada! > Of course, we can run double qmail queues, with a message checking > process runing between the two queues filtering out troublesome ones. Double queues are not necessary, a wrapper around qmail-queue would be enough. Also, how would you identity troublesome messages? Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
> At 12:07 04/05/00 +0300, R.Ilker Gokhan wrote: > > > >SUBJECT: ILOVEYOU > > > > > > YOU MUST DELETE IT BEFORE OPEN, ESPECIALLY IF YOUR OS IS WINDOWS !!!!!!!!! > > > but how can i open after i delete it? oh sorry - you can if you use windows.... :-) > > http://www.hinterlands.org/iloveyou.html > > > Martin A. Brooks > ------------------------------------ > The package said Windows NT 4 or better - I installed Linux. >
Hi there, This is the scenario. We have a customer who had one MX record pointing to our mail server so we handled mail for that domain by putting in a rcpthosts entry and a virtualdomains entry pointing mail to one mailbox, everything worked fine. The customer then took mail into their own hands. The MX was pointed elsewhere, dns was updated throughout the entire network including our mail server. When i try to send a mail to that domain now, instead of going to the new mail server, the mail still comes back to our mail server, even though the MX record is correct. I had a play around and found out the following. If you remove the entry from the rcpthosts, mail still doesn't go to the new mail server. If you, however, remove the entry from the virtualdomains file and leave it in the rcpthosts (possible for secondary mail purposes) then it works. Why is this? Why doesn't qmail forget its own control files and read straight off the MX? I remember this argument before and remember people saying that qmail reads the MX records first - obviously this is not the case! Regards, Marc-Adrian Napoli Network Administrator Connect Infobahn Australia +61 2 9281 1750
Marc-Adrian Napoli wrote: > Hi there, > > This is the scenario. We have a customer who had one MX record pointing to > our mail server so we handled mail for that domain by putting in a rcpthosts > entry and a virtualdomains entry pointing mail to one mailbox, everything > worked fine. > > The customer then took mail into their own hands. The MX was pointed > elsewhere, dns was updated throughout the entire network including our mail > server. > > When i try to send a mail to that domain now, instead of going to the new > mail server, the mail still comes back to our mail server, even though the > MX record is correct. > > I had a play around and found out the following. If you remove the entry > from the rcpthosts, mail still doesn't go to the new mail server. If you, > however, remove the entry from the virtualdomains file and leave it in the > rcpthosts (possible for secondary mail purposes) then it works. > > Why is this? Why doesn't qmail forget its own control files and read > straight off the MX? > > I remember this argument before and remember people saying that qmail reads > the MX records first - obviously this is not the case! > > Regards, > > Marc-Adrian Napoli > Network Administrator > Connect Infobahn Australia > +61 2 9281 1750 I don't know about that thread, it was before I subscribed to the list or I don't remember it. The way I understood qmail and dns related issues is it would rely on its own entries during dns outages and etc.. I can't remember the details unfortunately so this probably doesn't make much sense but it might allow someone reading this remember it. It does make some sense though, maybe to me (and the fact that I am tired :) ) but when qmail gets a message injected in to the queue then qmail-smtp looks up where the message is to be delivered...if it is a local virtual domain on your system it will have qmail-local deliver it...if not it will deliver it after querying the dns for the address. I think this example is fairly correct, please correct me if I am wrong. Later, Dale
Hi I have a few simple (hopefully) simple questions. 1. Is it possible to use procmail to sort mail into multiple maildirs user one user account? ie: qmail list in one maildir and mutt list in another maildir and normal mail to a third maildir all under the same user account? 2. Does anyone know of any documentation regarding the use of procmail with maildirs? 3. Is this possible using .qmail files instead? I haven't had any luck yet and I don't know if it's because all my mail is fetched from my ISP mail server or what the deal is. Thanks Bob Waskosky
On 09-May-2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi I have a few simple (hopefully) simple questions. 1. Is it > possible to use procmail to sort mail into multiple maildirs user > one user account? ie: qmail list in one maildir and mutt list in > another maildir and normal mail to a third maildir all under the > same user account? Yes. Don't forget to 'maildirmake' each maildir first. > 2. Does anyone know of any documentation regarding the use of > procmail with maildirs? Starting from version 3.14 procmail supports maildirs, so it should have some kind of documentation. But the only significant things that differ from mbox are that you don't need locking and you need a forward slash ("/") at the end of a folder name. > 3. Is this possible using .qmail files instead? I haven't had any > luck yet and I don't know if it's because all my mail is fetched > from my ISP mail server or what the deal is. I would highly recommend using a filtering program such as procmail or maildrop. For procmail simply put: | preline procmail in your .qmail file and create your .procmailrc as usual. Ronny
Hi, I would like to know which mail filter is the best choice for qmail. (maildrop or procmail). I am currently installed maildrip. But I couldn't find any documention about maildrop. Please indicate where can i get the documention for maildrip. Thank You Mark
Hello, i got this error message when i tried to subscribe to a list in which i was testing ezmlm-cgi web archiving. ----------- May 10 10:12:15 server1 qmail: 957942735.083895 info msg 111181: bytes 690 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 32992 uid 10001 May 10 10:12:15 server1 qmail: 957942735.182879 starting delivery 85: msg 111181 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 10 10:12:15 server1 qmail: 957942735.183506 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 May 10 10:12:15 server1 qmail: 957942735.189503 delivery 85: deferral: Uh-oh:_.q mail_has_prog_delivery_but_has_x_bit_set._(#4.7.0)/ May 10 10:12:15 server1 qmail: 957942735.189781 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 ----------- i made "chmod 755 /home/fikra/listesi" to give ezmlm-cgi read access to list archieves, could this be the error reason ? & how can i fix it ? if i set the old access perm. then the list wont work again.. <Also it would be great if anyone can tell me where can i find documentation about ezmlm-cgi except from www.ezmlm.org and ezmlm-cgi man page, because i did try them bot and still couldnt find out how to make ezmlm-cgi read an archieve if the apache user "nobody" dont have access permissions> thanks in advance, mgm
Hi all, I want to limit my mail users' mails to be below a fixed size (say, 2M), if the mail exceeds the limit, the users should get notified and the mail bounced. What should I use, procmail or qtools or some other cool tools?
Hello, can anyone tell me how to get rid of the following error that's flooding my syslog? The qmail queue is empty and it seems to think it's not. May 10 09:40:53 oxygen qmail: 957948053.162144 warning: trouble opening remote/19/1008891; will try again later May 10 09:42:57 oxygen qmail: 957948177.174013 warning: trouble opening remote/19/1008891; will try again later May 10 09:45:01 oxygen qmail: 957948301.185895 warning: trouble opening remote/19/1008891; will try again later May 10 09:47:05 oxygen qmail: 957948425.207740 warning: trouble opening remote/19/1008891; will try again later May 10 09:49:09 oxygen qmail: 957948549.219607 warning: trouble opening remote/19/1008891; will try again later May 10 09:51:13 oxygen qmail: 957948673.231493 warning: trouble opening remote/19/1008891; will try again later TIA, Jerry. -- Jerry Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aardvark IPL Fax +353 21 896040 Morris house Tel +353 21 896060 Douglas Cork Ireland. http://www.aardvark.ie/ The package said Windows NT 4 or better - I installed UNIX
