qmail Digest 23 Aug 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1101
Topics (messages 47147 through 47206):
forward and local copy
47147 by: Audouy J�r�me
47148 by: Russell P. Sutherland
Re: need qmail-inject help
47149 by: Uwe Ohse
47184 by: J!M
47185 by: J!M
MX record problem
47150 by: Eric Davis
47151 by: James Raftery
47152 by: Petr Novotny
password database
47153 by: Clemens Hermann
47161 by: Gjermund Sorseth
47164 by: Ramy M. Hassan
47176 by: Chris Johnson
Re: "qmail-inject: to:user1: command not found" error?
47154 by: Dave Sill
47156 by: Steve Carter
47159 by: Dave Sill
47179 by: Steve Carter
Re: using /control/relayclients and /control/relaydomains instead of setting
RELAYCLIENT
47155 by: Dave Sill
Re: queue - freezing??
47157 by: Dave Sill
Re: qmail prefered platform??
47158 by: Toens Bueker
Re: Routing qmail through a gateway
47160 by: Greg Owen
47180 by: JB
Unable to receive MIME messages
47162 by: Rick Glunt
47163 by: James Raftery
47165 by: Rick Glunt
47166 by: Stefaan A Eeckels
47167 by: Chris Garrigues
47171 by: David Dyer-Bennet
47172 by: James Raftery
hanging tcprules
47168 by: Jeff Garvas
47177 by: Jeff Garvas
47182 by: Chris Johnson
47183 by: Jeff Garvas
Re: tcpserver return codes
47169 by: Bruno Wolff III
Re: SPAM From <> (was Re: Re: from: <> ???)
47170 by: Bruno Wolff III
47181 by: Jost Krieger
tpcserver hangs..
47173 by: Sean C Truman
[OT] Practical Considerations for German "Legal Interception" legislation
47174 by: Magnus Bodin
problems sending to remote addresses
47175 by: Ryan Cartwright
47178 by: Chris Johnson
Web Interface for QMail
47186 by: Jason McCormick
47194 by: Gerry Boudreaux
HELP!: 421_unable_to_read_controls_(#4.3.0)
47187 by: Greg Kopp
47188 by: Alexander Pennace
47189 by: Vince Vielhaber
47190 by: Greg Kopp
47192 by: Alexander Pennace
47197 by: Ronny Haryanto
Re: alert: cannot start: qmail-send is already running
47191 by: Matthew Patterson
SPAM Relay
47193 by: Marcilio Jorgensen Cassella
47195 by: David Dyer-Bennet
47196 by: Johan Almqvist
47198 by: Ronny Haryanto
Re: perlmx for qmail?
47199 by: Alexander Pennace
47206 by: sen_ml.eccosys.com
Re: TNEF File Help
47200 by: Alexander Pennace
Need Some DNS pointers
47201 by: Bryan White
Help..
47202 by: support2
47203 by: tony.corp.quepasa.com
Re: Why not permanent failure code for bare LF?
47204 by: Markus Stumpf
Re: tinydns in Vancouver
47205 by: Greg White
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I want to forward incoming mail a keep a local copy of the mail...
i see the faq, and i only find how to keep all mails, but is it possible to do that
only for one user
with a special .qmail or .forward ?
i tried a .forward like that but it doesn't work...
$ cat .forward
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
what's wrong ?
Dji.
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* Audouy J�r�me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [22 Aug 2000 06:05]:
> i tried a .forward like that but it doesn't work...
>
> $ cat .forward
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use a .qmail file like the following:
%cat .qmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$HOME/Maildir/
The second line will be the location of your local mailbox.
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:52:41AM +0000, J!M wrote:
> I must be dim. How can I make qmail-inject not rewrite my From
> headers? Even when I call
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -f "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> or
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> the hostname is rewritten with my server's FQDN...
what is the value of the environment variable $QMAILINJECT?
Regards, Uwe
> what is the value of the environment variable $QMAILINJECT?
>
> Regards, Uwe
I don't have a $QMAILINJECT variable set - looking through the
qmail-inject man page, it didn't seem like I wanted to invoke any of
those options.. The biggest part of my question is HOW DO I
PASS ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES TO QMAIL-INJECT?
Is there any way to have qmail-inject NOT rewrite any EXISTING
headers, but only add those necessary, but not supplied by the
sender??? The docs would indicate that this should be what is
happening, but not for me.
Thanks,
J!M
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:52:41AM +0000, J!M wrote:
>
> > I must be dim. How can I make qmail-inject not rewrite my From
> > headers? Even when I call
> > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -f "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > or
> > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > the hostname is rewritten with my server's FQDN...
>
>
>
>
> Hmmm...consider your code stolen. Thanks. :->
That's what makes the 'net go round. I modified it from someone's
sendmail example ;-)
Thanks for your example - the putenv("QMAILHOST=$host"); sets
$QMAILHOST for use by PHP as an environment variable within
that script's execution space, but doesn't share it with qmail. qmail
only gets the data that we specifically pipe to it. The
fputs($fp,"QMAILHOST: $host\n"); code line seems to be treated
as an unknown informational header by qmail-inject, it leaves it
completely intact, but does not recognize it as the QMAILHOST
environment variable.
Any other ideas?
Thanks, J!M
>
> >
> > The qmail-inject man page indicates that the -f flag overrides Return-
> > Path, and From, if they are supplied. It also states that I can set
> > QMAILHOST to accomplish the same thing... forgive me if this is an
> > extra-stupid question, but I've been RTFM and I still have no idea what
> > the syntax or method would be to do this.
>
> I used to do this when I was using ELM to send mail from a virtual
> host.
> you set the QMAILHOST environment variable to the virtual domain-name, and
> QMAILUSER to the name of the virual user. Like this:
>
> $to = "person@company";
> $subject = "host piped email message";
> $message = "here is the message body\n$email";
> $user="info";
> $host="margecares.com";
> $from = "$user@$host";
> putenv("QMAILHOST=$host");
> putenv("QMAILUSER=$user");
>
> $fp = popen('/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject', "w");
> fputs($fp,"To: $to\n");
> fputs($fp,"QMAILHOST: $host\n");
> fputs($fp,"From: $email\n");
> fputs($fp,"Subject: $subject\n\n");
> fputs($fp,$message);
> fputs($fp,"\n");
> pclose($fp);
>
> I've never used the -f flag for qmail-inject, nor played with popen()
> much, so I don't know why that wasn't working for you. The code above
> should do what you want, though.
>
>
> > Any examples or suggestions appreciated.
> > J!M
> >
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>
I have a domain that does not have any MX records for it in DNS
but does have an A record for the location that someone is trying
to mail to. Such that email for <someone>@somewhere.com. A query
for nslookup -q=MX somewhere.com brings up no MX records, but q
query for nslookup somewhere.com does bring up an IP address.
Perhaps someone can tell me why qmail is unable to deliver to this
domain. I telnet to port 25 and there is an smtp server running
there along with a pop3 server on port 110.
Thank you...
-Eric Davis
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:48:58AM -0400, Eric Davis wrote:
> Perhaps someone can tell me why qmail is unable to deliver to this
> domain. I telnet to port 25 and there is an smtp server running
> there along with a pop3 server on port 110.
Hi,
What do the logs say ?
It's kinda hard to diagnose a DNS problem with a domain without knowing
the domain. (hint)
james
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On 22 Aug 2000, at 7:48, Eric Davis wrote:
> I have a domain that does not have any MX records for it in DNS
> but does have an A record for the location that someone is trying to
> mail to. Such that email for <someone>@somewhere.com. A query for
> nslookup -q=MX somewhere.com brings up no MX records,
But what does it bring? SERVFAIL? NXDOMAIN? NOERROR?
> Perhaps someone can tell me why qmail is unable to deliver to this
> domain.
Would you care to tell us your domain's name, if you ask us to
debug your DNS setup?
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Hi,
how can I use a password database instead of a textfile to authenticate
pop-users in qmail? There are some solutions I have seen, but I am using the
singel-user-id way described by Paul Gregg. Therefore I am using his
suggested version of checkpoppasswd
(http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/checkpoppasswd.c). I really
would appreaceate to keep this password tool, because it has two nice
features I do not want to miss (nice loging and delaying after failed
login).
Now my question: how many users can be kept within a text passord file until
it gets slow?
is there a way to use my password tool with a database? the file used is
specified in the source (see url aboce) and I did not find any way to change
to a database.
If there is no possibility with this tool, what can I use instead - It must
work with the virtual users methode described in
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html.
Thanks a lot
Clemens
Clemens Hermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> how can I use a password database instead of a textfile to authenticate
> pop-users in qmail?
Easy. Make a C library that implements getpwnam() such that it looks
up users in a Berkeley DB or GDBM database, then link the library
into the stock checkpassword. No need to switch software or change any
existing source code.
> Now my question: how many users can be kept within a text passord
> file until it gets slow?
In my experience, about 10000 but it probably varies. I ran into that
limit a few years back and made a C library package as described above
that I can probably make available if you like.
Today, my server has roughly one million mail accounts and my current
password authentication scheme is a bit more sophisticated,
but that's another story.
--
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check vpopmail http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail , it has several
authentication modules like like cdb, mysql, and oracle
__Ramy M. Hassan__
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Clemens Hermann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how can I use a password database instead of a textfile to authenticate
> pop-users in qmail? There are some solutions I have seen, but I am using the
> singel-user-id way described by Paul Gregg. Therefore I am using his
> suggested version of checkpoppasswd
> (http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/checkpoppasswd.c). I really
> would appreaceate to keep this password tool, because it has two nice
> features I do not want to miss (nice loging and delaying after failed
> login).
> Now my question: how many users can be kept within a text passord file until
> it gets slow?
> is there a way to use my password tool with a database? the file used is
> specified in the source (see url aboce) and I did not find any way to change
> to a database.
> If there is no possibility with this tool, what can I use instead - It must
> work with the virtual users methode described in
> http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Clemens
>
>
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 02:36:03PM +0200, Clemens Hermann wrote:
> how can I use a password database instead of a textfile to authenticate
> pop-users in qmail? There are some solutions I have seen, but I am using the
> singel-user-id way described by Paul Gregg. Therefore I am using his
> suggested version of checkpoppasswd
> (http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/checkpoppasswd.c). I really
> would appreaceate to keep this password tool, because it has two nice
> features I do not want to miss (nice loging and delaying after failed
> login).
> Now my question: how many users can be kept within a text passord file until
> it gets slow?
> is there a way to use my password tool with a database? the file used is
> specified in the source (see url aboce) and I did not find any way to change
> to a database.
> If there is no possibility with this tool, what can I use instead - It must
> work with the virtual users methode described in
> http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html.
I have a version of checkpassword that works with a cdb database, which I use
with a setup like Paul Gregg outlines. You can get it at
http://www.palomine.net/qmail/checkcdb.tar.gz.
Chris
"Fat Toolz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Maybe it's a good idea to write
>
>echo to: user1 | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
>
>(Take care of the space in the line)
I've never seen a shell that cared about white space around
metacharacters.
-Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 August 2000 13:43
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: "qmail-inject: to:user1: command not found" error?
>
>
> "Fat Toolz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Maybe it's a good idea to write
> >
> >echo to: user1 | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
> >
> >(Take care of the space in the line)
>
> I've never seen a shell that cared about white space around
> metacharacters.
>
No but it's rather crucial to include whitespace between the two arguments
"to:" and "user1"
Steve Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>
>> I've never seen a shell that cared about white space around
>> metacharacters.
And, of course, I was wrong, as Petr Novotny pointed out, in the case
of "1 >" vs "1>" for Bourne variants.
>No but it's rather crucial to include whitespace between the two arguments
>"to:" and "user1"
Is it? Did you try it? I did, and it worked fine without the space.
-Dave
> Steve Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>
> >> I've never seen a shell that cared about white space around
> >> metacharacters.
>
> And, of course, I was wrong, as Petr Novotny pointed out, in the case
> of "1 >" vs "1>" for Bourne variants.
>
> >No but it's rather crucial to include whitespace between the
> two arguments
> >"to:" and "user1"
>
> Is it? Did you try it? I did, and it worked fine without the space.
ahem ... <goes red> ... no I haven't tried it...
telnet .... qmail-inject... whoops!
I do apologise. I read somewhere in the docs that you should be
careful to include the space... And surely the space makes the
difference between the program receiving one or two arguments... but I
guess so many people missed out the space that the program was coded
both ways in the end...
Thomas Ackermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i`d like to use the qmail control files relaydomains, relayclients and
>rcpthosts instead of setting RELAYCLIENT with tcpserver
qmail doesn't use relaydomains or relayclients control files.
-Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Is there a way of freezing the queue and deferring messages for lkater
>delivery???
Freezing the queue qould require disabling qmail-inject, qmail-smtpd,
and qmail-send. You could shut down qmail and "chmod -x
qmail-inject", but that's pretty severe.
What you really trying to accomplish?
-Dave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the reply - BUT what if I have accesss to a IBM H70 and D40
> configuration - 4 way 2gb ram - against a SUN E450 4 way 1.5G ram and a
> A5100 network storage array.
>
> Which is better - or are they both below a Intel machine ???
Yes they are. Especially at the point, you have to add
another machine to cope with the load.
You need a decent (fast and secure) filesystem for a high
loaded server. Memory is always nice, but think of the
prices you have to pay for memory and disks for Sun or IBM
boxes.
> Runnign BSD or Redhat or Mandrake ????
FreeBSD. Solaris. AIX.
By
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> I'm tring to make a internal qmail server route through a gateway
> running sendmail. I've added :[192.168.1.1] to
> /var/qmail/control/smtproutes which is the inside ip address of the
> gateway running sendmail.
>
> When I send mail to the qmail server, I get the following error,
>
> deferral: Connected_to_192.168.1.1_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/
What happens when you connect from the qmail box to the gateway
using telnet to port 25? Do you get a greeting from the SMTP host? Can you
manually enter an SMTP transaction?
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No, I found the gateway was droping the connection. I'm still
trying to figure out why.
Thanks,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 6:01 AM
> To: qmail
> Subject: RE: Routing qmail through a gateway
>
>
> > I'm tring to make a internal qmail server route through a gateway
> > running sendmail. I've added :[192.168.1.1] to
> > /var/qmail/control/smtproutes which is the inside ip address of the
> > gateway running sendmail.
> >
> > When I send mail to the qmail server, I get the following error,
> >
> > deferral: Connected_to_192.168.1.1_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/
>
> What happens when you connect from the qmail box to the gateway
> using telnet to port 25? Do you get a greeting from the SMTP
> host? Can you
> manually enter an SMTP transaction?
>
> --
> gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
I have recently installed qmail and I am using fetchmail to contact my ISP
and retrieve mail via a POP3 mailbox. However, any E-mail in MIME format is
giving an error. Can anyone tell me how to get MIME messages into qmail?
Rick G
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:42:03AM -0400, Rick Glunt wrote:
> I have recently installed qmail and I am using fetchmail to contact my ISP
> and retrieve mail via a POP3 mailbox.
Ugh. fetchmail's not...umm...good, IMHO.
> However, any E-mail in MIME format is giving an error.
Perhaps you could say *what* error? [ heightened solar activity is
affecting my psychic powers today! ]
> Can anyone tell me how to get MIME messages into qmail?
qmail has no problems with MIME. I suspect some other cause.
Regards,
james
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1) Open to suggestion to replace fetchmail
2) Error messages vary. One sample is "This is a MIME message. If you are
reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or
gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME messages."
My mail read will handle MIME, however, I'm not sure what it wants as far as
a gateway. Could it be fetchmail or is there another missing link I have
overlooked?
Rick G
-----Original Message-----
From: James Raftery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unable to receive MIME messages
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:42:03AM -0400, Rick Glunt wrote:
> I have recently installed qmail and I am using fetchmail to contact my ISP
> and retrieve mail via a POP3 mailbox.
Ugh. fetchmail's not...umm...good, IMHO.
> However, any E-mail in MIME format is giving an error.
Perhaps you could say *what* error? [ heightened solar activity is
affecting my psychic powers today! ]
> Can anyone tell me how to get MIME messages into qmail?
qmail has no problems with MIME. I suspect some other cause.
Regards,
james
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On 22-Aug-2000 Rick Glunt wrote:
> 1) Open to suggestion to replace fetchmail
It's not too bad, and not the cause of your problem.
I suppose you use fetchmail to inject the mail into
qmail, and you then read it using a mailer of sorts.
Knowing which mailer would be a help.
> 2) Error messages vary. One sample is "This is a MIME message. If you are
> reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or
> gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME messages."
There's an error in the MIME structure of the message. The fact
that you can see it in your mailer means that both fetchmail and
qmail have worked correctly.
>
> My mail read will handle MIME, however, I'm not sure what it wants as far as
> a gateway. Could it be fetchmail or is there another missing link I have
> overlooked?
As a matter of fact, the message you read was inserted as
a place holder by the remote mailer. The fact that you
see it means
a) your mailer has a problem
b) the message was incorrectly written by the remote
client
c) it got stuffed in transit (fetchmail could have done
it, but AFAIK stuffing up MIME messages is not one
of its passtimes.
If you care to send me a zipped copy of the entire message
(easy if it's in Maildir, not so easy otherwise), then
I'd be happy to have a look at it.
Stefaan
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> From: "Rick Glunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:07:31 -0400
>
> 1) Open to suggestion to replace fetchmail
>
> 2) Error messages vary. One sample is "This is a MIME message. If you are
> reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or
> gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME messages."
This means that either your mail reader doesn't recognize MIME headers or
something else is stripping those headers off the message. The first thing to
do is to look at the headers on the message and see if it has Mime-version and
Content-type headers. If it does, the problem is your mail reader; if it
doesn't, the problem is something else, which that particular message refers
to as your "gateway".
Chris
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James Raftery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 22 August 2000 at 14:52:54
+0100
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:42:03AM -0400, Rick Glunt wrote:
> > I have recently installed qmail and I am using fetchmail to contact my ISP
> > and retrieve mail via a POP3 mailbox.
>
> Ugh. fetchmail's not...umm...good, IMHO.
>
> > However, any E-mail in MIME format is giving an error.
>
> Perhaps you could say *what* error? [ heightened solar activity is
> affecting my psychic powers today! ]
>
> > Can anyone tell me how to get MIME messages into qmail?
>
> qmail has no problems with MIME. I suspect some other cause.
Just to add additional confirmation -- I use a fetchmail to qmail to
pop path to receive mail I want with attchments on my windows box.
They come through fine (reading with Pegasus Mail on the windows
box).
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To reiterate what other have said, I suspect you don't actually have a
real valid MIME message.
Either;
- The sending MUA didn't create a valid MIME message in the first place
- An MTA/MDA along the way messed it up
Regards,
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I'm having a problem with my qmail machine. I'm hosting less than 10
virtual domains and using the web tools to let individual people
administrate their domains.
I'm using the SQL based authentication.
This machine also acts as a radius authentication server with sql based
authentication.
It seems when I start icradius tcprules never properly exits, leaving
behind hundreds upon hundreds of stale "tcprules" processes.
The system load average shoots well above 40 and the system becomes dog
slow.
Does anyone have any idea where the problem exists?
-Jeff
I take it back...
I've killed radius on this machine and watched it's load jump from 1 to
25. tcprules seems to be running numerous times.
Should tcprules be running more than once? Should it be running multiple
instances of mysqld? At the moment there are only two of these:
891 ? SN 0:00 /usr/local/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local/
893 ? R 0:20 /usr/local/bin/tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.sm
898 ? SN 0:00 /usr/local/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local/
899 ? R 0:01 /usr/local/bin/tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.sm
However, at times it will run between 15 and 75 of these. I must have
configured something wrong...
-jeff
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Jeff Garvas wrote:
>
> I'm having a problem with my qmail machine. I'm hosting less than 10
> virtual domains and using the web tools to let individual people
> administrate their domains.
>
> I'm using the SQL based authentication.
>
> This machine also acts as a radius authentication server with sql based
> authentication.
>
> It seems when I start icradius tcprules never properly exits, leaving
> behind hundreds upon hundreds of stale "tcprules" processes.
>
> The system load average shoots well above 40 and the system becomes dog
> slow.
>
> Does anyone have any idea where the problem exists?
>
> -Jeff
>
>
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:20:33AM -0400, Jeff Garvas wrote:
> I've killed radius on this machine and watched it's load jump from 1 to
> 25. tcprules seems to be running numerous times.
>
> Should tcprules be running more than once?
tcprules should run only when you're rebuilding the rules database. It doesn't
run for every incoming connection or anything like that.
You're running some kind of non-qmail program that's running tcprules. Nothing
in the qmail package runs it automatically; you have to run it explicitly by
hand.
Chris
> tcprules should run only when you're rebuilding the rules database. It doesn't
> run for every incoming connection or anything like that.
>
> You're running some kind of non-qmail program that's running tcprules. Nothing
> in the qmail package runs it automatically; you have to run it explicitly by
> hand.
The only package I can think of that would do this is the web based
administration utility that lets people login to their own "domain"
and make changes.
Thats also the only reason I can image it would be spawning mysql since
everything is mysql based.
Hmmm.....
-jeff
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 04:39:52PM -0400,
John Steniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having an issue which I believe is tcpserver; I've searched the archives
> and haven't found anything.
>
> I have qmail up and running under tcpserver, and using a client like Outlook
> I am able to both send mail and recieve mail (using pop3 protocol).
> However, I have a network monitoring tool (What's Up Gold) which can be
> configured to send email messages. When I specify my qmail server as the
> SMTP server, and attempt to test, I get immediate failure.
This sounds like you didn't allow the host to act as a relay. The default
configuration will be that noone can relay through the machine, even the
machine hosting qmail. Usually mail on the qmail host will be injected
with qmail-inject rather than using an smtp session.
You need to add a line like the following to your tcpserver data:
129.89.124.28:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD=""
(The RBLSTMPD line is only needed if you are using rblsmtpd and you want
to still be able to use the smtp connection if your host shows up on a
blacklist.)
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 04:46:32PM -0700,
"Aaron L. Meehan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How they can allow their users to send lots of mail--to such places as
> AOL, any network for that matter that has external mail gateways that
> forward to internal hosts--and when it bounces NOT know about it is
> beyond me. I think it must just be ignorance of how SMTP works.
Because it pushes the work of handling the bounces to administrators
at other sites who they don't have to pay. If I got to decide the
email policy at UWM we would be blacklisting every host that refused to accept
bounce messages.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 04:46:32PM -0700, Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
> Yes, well, in my experience the cons of blocking null senders far
> outweigh the pros. The vast majority of spam is sent with forged
> addresses, or take-your-pick blasted free email provider addresses.
> I've been trying to convice once particular NT ISP here in Oregon of
> this fact for nearly three years.
>
> How they can allow their users to send lots of mail--to such places as
> AOL, any network for that matter that has external mail gateways that
> forward to internal hosts--and when it bounces NOT know about it is
> beyond me. I think it must just be ignorance of how SMTP works.
I'm not sure if this is relevant here, but in my opinion every Postmaster
who intentionally refuses mail because of empty envelope senders should
get fired for incompetence.
Reason: This breaks one of the base concepts of Internet mail.
If you have configured your client correctly, and no disc crashes
come in the way, for every mail you send you either get an error or it
gets delivered (somewhere).
The empty envelope sender is prescribed for bounces (RFC 1123), and if
someone refuses such mails, he denies his users the information that
their mail has failed. Not to mention I find those thing in my double-
bounce folder (along with the spams). If I have time, I forward the mail
to the user and something unfriendly to the postmaster.
You can imagine what I think about MTA authors that even make this setting
the default.
Another mystery in this area is why some people think they must *relay*
these mails for everyone ...
The original question, however, was about
From: <>
in the header.
That, on the contrary, is illegal in RFC and a sure sign of spam.
Unfortunately, you only see it when you have taken the mail (in standard qmail).
Jost
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Hey guys,
As of like 8:00 yesterday one of
my server is will delay smtp connection from localhost.. sometime it will not
connect at all. I know it not a DNS issue. I have add the -RH flag and I am
still getting same problem.. This is only happing on port 25 if I run
qmail on a different port I dont have the problems..
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Anyone who knows how to best commit to the German "Legal Interception"
legislation (as of the Telecommunications Act) with mail servers?
I guess qmail:s QUEUE_EXTRA[1] is of help here, but I heard some rumours
about that this extra shipment not was supposed to be seen in the logs.
Any pointers into practical interpretions of these legalese is appreciated.
Don't hesitate to mail privately if you rather want to.
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Hi,
I am not sure if this is merely a discussion or a help list, If it's the
former forgive the intrusion.
I have been running q-mail-1.03 for abotu a month now on our RedHat6 box. The
users connect through various MUA's from their M$Windows machines. All this
has performed excellently with no problems until now.
Recently we have been looking at StarOffice5.1 and I am experiencing trouble
sending mail to remote addresses. I have setup an outbox in StarOffice (on
Win98 PC) and can send mail to local addresses no problem, including any
domain listed in the locals file. But if I try to send to one not it locals
then q-mail returns a 553 error ( "Sorry that domain isn't listed in my
allowed rcphosts list(#5.7.1)" ) .
This happens if I use StarOffice on a client Windows PC or logged in as a user
on the server, local mail is accepted , remote is rejected. Every other MUA I
have used (Windows or Linux) has it's mail accepted no problem.
I appreciate this is really pointing to a MUA problem but is there any known
problems like this regarding StarOffice/q-mail and can I do anything to solve
it?
TIA
Crimperman
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 04:22:06PM +0100, Ryan Cartwright wrote:
> I have been running q-mail-1.03 for abotu a month now on our RedHat6 box. The
> users connect through various MUA's from their M$Windows machines. All this
> has performed excellently with no problems until now.
>
> Recently we have been looking at StarOffice5.1 and I am experiencing trouble
> sending mail to remote addresses. I have setup an outbox in StarOffice (on
> Win98 PC) and can send mail to local addresses no problem, including any
> domain listed in the locals file. But if I try to send to one not it locals
> then q-mail returns a 553 error ( "Sorry that domain isn't listed in my
> allowed rcphosts list(#5.7.1)" ) .
>
> This happens if I use StarOffice on a client Windows PC or logged in as a user
> on the server, local mail is accepted , remote is rejected. Every other MUA I
> have used (Windows or Linux) has it's mail accepted no problem.
>
> I appreciate this is really pointing to a MUA problem but is there any known
> problems like this regarding StarOffice/q-mail and can I do anything to solve
> it?
Something is not as you describe it. If you get this error when injecting mail
with SMTP from a remote machine using StarOffice's MUA, then you'll get it from
that machine using any MUA.
In any case, see the following for the answer:
FAQ 5.4
http://www.palomine.net/qmail/relaying.html
http://www.palomine.net/qmail/selectiverelay.html
Chris
Hi everyone, I'm new to Qmail and I'm attempting to get a fully-
functioning service going. But fully functioning I mean I need to
provide POP3 + SMTP + a web client of some sort. I also need to support
multiple users in multiple domains. I was hoping to use the setup
outlined by Paul Gregg in the Single-UID POP3 Box HOWTO to use Maildir to
support users w/o requiring system accounts. My questions is this: What,
if any, Web-based mail clients will work with Maildir? I looked through
the FAQ and Qmail site and didn't see anything that works for me. Has
anyone implemented such a setup? If so, do you have documentation?
Thanks, Jason McCormick
sqwebmail will provide a web interface to Maildir boxes. To support
multiple domains may require some configuration.
Nice package.
http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/
Hope this helps.
Gerry
At 04:02 PM 8/22/2000 -0400, Jason McCormick wrote:
> Hi everyone, I'm new to Qmail and I'm attempting to get a fully-
>functioning service going. But fully functioning I mean I need to
>provide POP3 + SMTP + a web client of some sort. I also need to support
>multiple users in multiple domains. I was hoping to use the setup
>outlined by Paul Gregg in the Single-UID POP3 Box HOWTO to use Maildir to
>support users w/o requiring system accounts. My questions is this: What,
>if any, Web-based mail clients will work with Maildir? I looked through
>the FAQ and Qmail site and didn't see anything that works for me. Has
>anyone implemented such a setup? If so, do you have documentation?
>
>Thanks, Jason McCormick
>
HELP!
This just started at around 4PM eastern time for no obvious reason:
Connected_to_207.206.15.131_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_421_unabl
e_to_read_controls_(#4.3.0)
I have been running qmail with vpopmail for 8 months without a hitch, now
this pops up for some unknown reason.
Can anyone help? I am desperate.
Greg
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 04:31:02PM -0400, Greg Kopp wrote:
> This just started at around 4PM eastern time for no obvious reason:
>
> Connected_to_207.206.15.131_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_421_unabl
> e_to_read_controls_(#4.3.0)
>
> I have been running qmail with vpopmail for 8 months without a hitch, now
> this pops up for some unknown reason.
>
> Can anyone help? I am desperate.
That log entry indicates that the remote SMTP service is having
problems and qmail will try again later. Is 207.206.15.131 another
machine of yours? If so, what do the logs say on that machine? If not,
don't worry about it.
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Greg Kopp wrote:
> HELP!
>
> This just started at around 4PM eastern time for no obvious reason:
>
> Connected_to_207.206.15.131_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_421_unabl
> e_to_read_controls_(#4.3.0)
>
> I have been running qmail with vpopmail for 8 months without a hitch, now
> this pops up for some unknown reason.
>
> Can anyone help? I am desperate.
Is 207.206.15.131 you or someone else?
Vince.
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It's mine.
I went to the source tree for qmail and did:
./config-fast ideastar.com
That fixed it. But I don't understand what broke.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Pennace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 4:36 PM
> To: Greg Kopp
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HELP!: 421_unable_to_read_controls_(#4.3.0)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 04:31:02PM -0400, Greg Kopp wrote:
> > This just started at around 4PM eastern time for no obvious reason:
> >
> >
> Connected_to_207.206.15.131_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:
> _421_unabl
> > e_to_read_controls_(#4.3.0)
> >
> > I have been running qmail with vpopmail for 8 months without a
> hitch, now
> > this pops up for some unknown reason.
> >
> > Can anyone help? I am desperate.
>
> That log entry indicates that the remote SMTP service is having
> problems and qmail will try again later. Is 207.206.15.131 another
> machine of yours? If so, what do the logs say on that machine? If not,
> don't worry about it.
>
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 04:39:57PM -0400, Greg Kopp wrote:
> It's mine.
>
> I went to the source tree for qmail and did:
>
> ./config-fast ideastar.com
>
> That fixed it. But I don't understand what broke.
Neither do I, at least with the information you give.
My first stab in the dark is an earlier unclean shutdown caused one or
more control files to disappear.
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On 22-Aug-2000, Alexander Pennace wrote:
> My first stab in the dark is an earlier unclean shutdown caused one or
> more control files to disappear.
Or somebody (or something) changed the permissions of one of the
dirs/files in controls making it unreadable to qmail.
Ronny
What is the sequence the system goes through during bootup in terms of
runlevels? You may not want to start it for the single-user modes. If it
goes directly to one of the runlevels you may want to add a link to kill
qmail before it is started by the normal link.
MHP
----- Original Message -----
From: Clemens Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Petr Novotny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Qmail Mailinglist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: alert: cannot start: qmail-send is already running
> Hi Petr
>
> thanks for assisting me solving the problem.
>
> > What command exactly do you use to spawn qmail? (I mean,
> > you're obviously using svscan and supervise;
>
> yes, I made everything 100% as described in Dave Sills Life with qmail.
> There it is described that way ;-)
>
> > what does the
> > DIR/run file look like?
>
> /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/run:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> exec /var/qmail/rc
>
> /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t
> /var/log/qmail
>
> /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
> -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
> 2>&1
>
>
> /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log/run file:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t
> /var/log/qmail/smtpd
>
> exactly as described in LWQ
>
> the /var/qmail/rc file looks like this:
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> # Using stdout for logging
>
> # Using control/defaultdelivery from qmail-local to deliver messages by
> default
>
> exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> qmail-start "`cat /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery`"
>
> the /sbin/init.d/qmail start script is this one:
>
> http://Web.InfoAve.net/~dsill/qmail-script-dt61.txt
>
>
> > If it starts other file (like /var/qmail/rc), what
> > does _that_ file look like?
>
> I hope I included everything you wanted in this reply. If not I did
> anything as describen in LWQ.
>
> > Please make sure that you're not putting
> > anything into background ('&' at the end of the line)
>
> doesn't look like.
> I took the files from LWQ by copy'n paste to make sure there is no
> typing mistake
>
> > - supervise
> > thinks your program has died when it detaches and tries to
> > respawn it.
>
> thanks
>
> Clemens
>
HI,
My SMTP Server is open for relay where X-Envelope-Recipient:
<XXXX%XXXXX@[My.IP.ADDRESS]>. Plz, How to remove this bug ? Thanks...
Marcilio
AlterNex
Brasil
Marcilio Jorgensen Cassella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 22 August 2000 at
17:28:10 -0300
> My SMTP Server is open for relay where X-Envelope-Recipient:
> <XXXX%XXXXX@[My.IP.ADDRESS]>. Plz, How to remove this bug ? Thanks...
No it isn't; it accepts the message (because qmail-smtpd doesn't know
enough about the various virtual domains you serve to know which
addresses are valid and which are not), but it does not relay it; it
bounces it when it discovers the address is not local.
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:28:10PM -0300, Marcilio Jorgensen Cassella wrote:
> HI,
>
> My SMTP Server is open for relay where X-Envelope-Recipient:
> <XXXX%XXXXX@[My.IP.ADDRESS]>. Plz, How to remove this bug ? Thanks...
Are you sure you are relaying these or do they get delivered to a
catch all account on your host?
Otherwise, remove your IP address from the file /var/qmail/control/percenthack
(man qmail-control and man qmail-send).
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On 22-Aug-2000, Marcilio Jorgensen Cassella wrote:
> My SMTP Server is open for relay where X-Envelope-Recipient:
> <XXXX%XXXXX@[My.IP.ADDRESS]>. Plz, How to remove this bug ? Thanks...
What bug? If /var/qmail/control/percenthack doesn't exist or empty,
it's probably a false positive given by one of the open-relay testers.
Ronny
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 02:51:29PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> is there was any interest in developing something like perlmx [1] for
> qmail? i presume that to do so, there would need to be hooks w/in
> qmail itself.
No special hooks needed, qmail's flexible design gives the
administrator great latitude in implementing filtering and other
message processing programs.
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From: Alexander Pennace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: perlmx for qmail?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:14:34 -0400
Message-ID: <20000822171434.C24722@buick>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 02:51:29PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > is there was any interest in developing something like perlmx [1] for
> > qmail? i presume that to do so, there would need to be hooks w/in
> > qmail itself.
>
> No special hooks needed, qmail's flexible design gives the
> administrator great latitude in implementing filtering and other
> message processing programs.
are you saying it should be easy to create something like perlmx w/ no
modification to qmail? if so, that would be great!
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 01:46:38PM +0700, Joomy wrote:
> I got this error in my qmail outgoing log. (I'm using qmail 1.03 on Redhat
> 6.2)
>
> delivery XXXX: failure: Seems_not_to_be_a_TNEF_file / ...... / ........
>
> and sometime
>
> delivery XXXX: success: Seems_not_to_be_a_TNEF_file / ...... / ........
>
> What is the TNEF file ? Is it some format from ms outlook ? (sorry for my
> stupid)
> What should I do ?
The text with the underscores is the output of qmail-local or
qmail-remote. In the case of qmail-local, its output includes the
output of all programs it runs on delivery as specified by applicable
.qmail files.
The qmail code has no references to TNEF, so this message is coming
from a program in someone's .qmail file.
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Sorry if this is a little off topic.
I am trying to speed up my outbound mail. I am running a set of ezines and
we are currently sending around 3 million emails per day. Currently I have
a process that envokes qmail-inject for each message. I am thinking of
doing a first attempt delivery inside my program and only if that fails,
hand it off to qmail-inject.
My intent is to create a master process that will set everything up and then
fork off serveral hundred children to chew on the list. I am hoping that my
process can handle 90% or more of the messages with no disk accesses and no
additional processes.
My problem is doing the DNS lookups. I have not found any good
documentation on the process at the 'C' level. I have stared at
qmail-1.03/dns.c for a couple hours now. This code is rather sparse on
comments.
Can anybody point me to some online or in print sources of information on
the subject. I am in particular looking for documented examples of the
res_query, res_search, snf dn_expand functions and the related data
structures.
Bryan White
You can't deny that it is not impossible, can you.
We have recently had inter-7 set us up with an update to q-mail and a
webbased program for qmail.. Prior to this upgrade qmail had run flawlessly
for over a year.. Now we have a strange challenge.. We can send and recieve
email to all but on server. When we try to email this company the email
either bounce back with the "that mailbox does not exist"
([EMAIL PROTECTED])(bounces back) or the email goes out but is never
recieved ([EMAIL PROTECTED])(never gets to him)..
However if we address the letters like this
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
They go through and get recieved.. I am at my wits end.. Inter-7 doesn't
know whats going on.. My normal q-mail tech can't find anything wrong and
thumb.net's tech says all is fine on his end..
Any light that can be shed will save me a few gray hairs...
If you have any further questions please call or email.
810-679-3395
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office hours:
M-F 10a-7p
Sat 11a-3P
Thirl F. Wootten
Technical Support Supervisor
Sanilac Computer Learning Center System Administrator
Help Desk Administrator
Great Lakes Internet
112 North Howard
Croswell, MI. 48422
Hi Thirl,
please post the output of qmail-showctl, and tell us how mail is supposed
to work for your customers.
Regards,
Tony
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, support2 wrote:
> We have recently had inter-7 set us up with an update to q-mail and a
> webbased program for qmail.. Prior to this upgrade qmail had run flawlessly
> for over a year.. Now we have a strange challenge.. We can send and recieve
> email to all but on server. When we try to email this company the email
> either bounce back with the "that mailbox does not exist"
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])(bounces back) or the email goes out but is never
> recieved ([EMAIL PROTECTED])(never gets to him)..
>
> However if we address the letters like this
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> They go through and get recieved.. I am at my wits end.. Inter-7 doesn't
> know whats going on.. My normal q-mail tech can't find anything wrong and
> thumb.net's tech says all is fine on his end..
>
> Any light that can be shed will save me a few gray hairs...
>
>
>
> If you have any further questions please call or email.
>
> 810-679-3395
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Office hours:
> M-F 10a-7p
> Sat 11a-3P
>
> Thirl F. Wootten
> Technical Support Supervisor
> Sanilac Computer Learning Center System Administrator
> Help Desk Administrator
>
> Great Lakes Internet
> 112 North Howard
> Croswell, MI. 48422
>
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:49:13AM -0400, Chris Johnson wrote:
> I've often wondered about this myself. The message in question, containing as
> it does a bare linefeed, can *never* be accepted. So why suggest to the sending
> host with a 451 code that it might have better luck if it tried to send the
> exact same message again later?
Because a caring SysAdmin that checks Logfiles could see the error
message from the qmail server, fix the problem and everything ist fine.
Not the content of the message is coded wrong, the MTA codes the message
wrong upon transport.
So after fixing the MTA the same message may be valid five minutes
later and it could even be the same physical file in the queue on disk.
Usually I have 500 of these a day. When the server gets anoying I put
it in our local RBL with permanent reject. What's really curious is
that some MTA deliver most messages fine but fail on bounces they
create themselves (e.g. some Lotus versions).
\Maex
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:57 PM
Subject: tinydns in Vancouver
> Anyone on this list know of a tiny dns people located in Vancouver,
Canada?
>
> Richard Lau
>
I know numerous tiny people, but unfortunately, they're not DNS experts ;).
All kidding aside, I presume you are asking about tinydns/djbdns wizards in
Vancouver. There are at least two people on this list who _may_ be able to
help you with that. Feel free to reply by private email.
GW
