qmail Digest 27 Aug 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1105
Topics (messages 47442 through 47466):
Re: VRFY , EXPN and more
47442 by: Russ Allbery
47443 by: Jenny Holmberg
Re: Off-Topic: Maildirs as folders
47444 by: Robin S. Socha
pop3 authorization ver smtpd-authorisation
47445 by: Fat Toolz
47446 by: Fat Toolz
having two different routes for pop3 connections
47447 by: NERvOus
Re: few Qs from newbie
47448 by: Chris, the Young One
Re: recipient list not shown: ;
47449 by: wolfgang zeikat
Re: supervise strangeness
47450 by: Chris, the Young One
maildir with imap and more than 1Gb mailbox
47451 by: Davide Giunchi
47453 by: wolfgang zeikat
Re: problem with recipient
47452 by: Chris, the Young One
qmail aliases like "melanie.desaive"
47454 by: Melanie Desaive
47455 by: Chris, the Young One
47456 by: Uwe Ohse
TRYING SUPERVISE
47457 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe
47458 by: Tim Hunter
47459 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe
47464 by: Tim Hunter
Re: pop3d
47460 by: Chris Johnson
migration of mail server
47461 by: mok swee loong
47463 by: Magnus L�fqivst
47465 by: Al Sparks
Re: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
47462 by: Dale Miracle
Another supervise error
47466 by: Peter Janett
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Roberto Samarone Ara�jo \(RSA\) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would like to know how can I disable VRFY and EXPN on my
> qmail server , in Sendmail server I could use novrfy and noexpn but , how
> can I do this in qmail ? . These commands is a good way to make spam .
qmail doesn't support VRFY or EXPN at all, so there's nothing to disable.
There's no way of enabling them.
> I would like to know too how can I create an Email , so when
> I send a message using this email it will send a copy of it to all users in
> my email system including virtual emails but , if an user try to make a
> reply of this email , it only will send a email to the email that I use to
> send to all user and not to all users in my server .
It sounds to me like you want a moderated mailing list. I use ezmlm to do
this, and just add a line like:
|bouncesaying "Permission denied. (#5.7.1)" test X"$SENDER" != X"sender"
to the beginning of the submission .qmail file, where sender is the
envelope sender that should be allowed to send to that list. Not perfect
security, but generally good enough for my purposes.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
"Roberto Samarone Ara�jo \(RSA\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have some newbie questions .
> I would like to know how can I disable VRFY and EXPN on my
> qmail server , in Sendmail server I could use novrfy and noexpn but , how
> can I do this in qmail ? . These commands is a good way to make spam .
That's already done. VRFY doesn't tell you whether an address is valid
or not, it gives the same answer to all queries. EXPN is
unimplemented. Try it yourself:
bash$ telnet localhost smtp
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^�'.
220 gruk.algonet.se ESMTP
vrfy jch
252 send some mail, i'll try my best
expn jch
502 unimplemented (#5.5.1)
> I would like to know too how can I create an Email , so when
> I send a message using this email it will send a copy of it to all users in
> my email system including virtual emails but , if an user try to make a
> reply of this email , it only will send a email to the email that I use to
> send to all user and not to all users in my server .
1) Use Reply-To to point at the address you want people to reply to
2) Use a mailinglist manager or bulkmailing software
3) If neither of these options are to your liking, you *could* set up
a .qmail-aliasfile which contains all the addresses you want to send
to, and, after sending the message , replace it with only the address
to which you want to reply.
--
"I live in the heart of the machine. We are one."
* Len Budney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000825 20:30]:
> "Matthew Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[MUAs that support maildir]
> > Maybe you could just write something like that for emacs.
>
> The problems with that are (1) I *want* a command-line interface; I use
> MH all the time even though it's not my primary mail reader, and (2) I'd
> like to see the job done right, once, and other mail reader authors simply
> leverage that. (Pipe dream, I know--they'll insist on rolling their own,
> whether it works as well or not...)
I don't see the problem, really. Use Gnus http://www.gnus.org/ and
you're there. Best MUA on earth, anyway. Supports maildir as a
mailsource and now (tentatively reaching beta status) as a native select
method. It also speaks IMAP, MIME and basically everything else one
needs, runs under any OS known to mankind - and is cruel to lusers.
Perfect.
--
Robin S. Socha
http://socha.net/Gnus/
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Hi qmail,
I just found out that the authorizing delay is NOT
caused by the POP3 daemon (or not longer, after disabling tcpserver
ident-service 113) but during the sending of mails. POP3 is now as fast as it
was before (over simple cross-link), but the qmail-smtpd takes that lot of
time for the authorization. There must be a way to make it check as fast as
POP3, isn't it?
Stef
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Hi qmail,
I just found out that the authorizing delay is NOT
caused by the POP3 daemon (or not longer, after disabling tcpserver
ident-service 113) but during the sending of mails. POP3 is now as fast as it
was before (over simple cross-link), but the qmail-smtpd takes that lot of
time for the authorization. There must be a way to make it check as fast as
POP3, isn't it?
Stef
|
Dear qmail gurus,
I have a pop3 server which has got 2 ip addresses and is connected
through 2 carriers.
Right now I have 2 different hostnames for that server: mail1.example.com
(for carrier1 ip address) and mail2.example.com (for carrier2 ip address)
My customers use a lot of different isps. I suggest my customers to use
mail1.example.com when they are connected through isp "X" and
mail2.example.com when they are connected through other isps.
In this way they always get a fast connection. If they try to connect
from isp "X" to mail2.example.com they get a slow connection because they
are a lot of hops far away from my pop3 server.
The problem with this solution is that they have to change pop3's server name
in their clients when they change from isp "X" to some other isp.
Is there a way to let them choose a unique hostname and automagically have them
to use mail1.example.com when they connect through isp "X" and
mail2.example.com when they use some other isp?
I'm using qmail+tcpserver+djdns
Thank you in advance.
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On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 08:52:55PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> #QMAIL_DIR Maildir
> MAIL_DIR /var/spool/mail
> #MAIL_FILE .mail
> And I just replaced /var/spool/mail to Maildir. But it still doesn't work.
> Maybe I should change something else.
Did you change MAIL_DIR , or QMAIL_DIR ? If MAIL_DIR, then the solution
is obvious (change QMAIL_DIR instead). Otherwise, well... you might want
to upgrade your login program.
Note that this does not mean your shell will support Maildir folders, so
don't expect notification from the shell when new mail arrives. If you
want that functionality, use qbiff.
---Chris K.
--
Chris, the Young One |_ but what's a dropped message between friends?
Auckland, New Zealand |_ this is UDP, not TCP after all ;) ---John H.
http://cloud9.hedgee.com/ |_ Robinson, IV
using the -a / -h options appropriately fixes the problem (in case someone
is interested).
Also sprach Wolfgang Zeikat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 25.08.2000:
when i use the line:
qmail-inject -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
~wzeikat/spamchecker1
the mail that is sent contains a line
Cc: recipient list not shown: ;
why is that?
and, more important: how do i avoid it?
wolfgang
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 10:37:39PM -0700, Rogue Eagle wrote:
[Re: nameless file taking up space]
> As I mentioned above, everything is fine now, but I'd
> still like to know why this happens.
On Unix, when a file has no links left (i.e., no names point to it),
the inode is not deleted until the last descriptor to it is closed,
and hence it still takes up space. However, since no names refer to
it, du(1) won't account for it.
Try this for yourself, assuming you use a Bourne-compatible shell
(type this as three lines):
while sleep 5
do dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=1
done >testing 2>/dev/null & rm testing
Sit and wait, and watch disk usage grow. It will write 1 kilobyte every
5 seconds. After you kill the process, you will get the space back.
Yes, it's off topic, but I thought I'd explain it anyhow.
---Chris K.
--
Chris, the Young One |_ If you can't afford a backup system, you can't
Auckland, New Zealand |_ afford to have important data on your computer.
http://cloud9.hedgee.com/ |_ ---Tracy R. Reed
Hi all.
Here it's my problem: i've a qmail linux server smtp/qmail-pop3 and i've a
windows Outlook client with a 1,1Gb of message stored in one file (Outlook use
the only mailbox.pst to store the messages), it's obvious that this client has
a lot of problem of stability and of getion of this large file (microsoft say
that outlook with the mailbox >of 1gb has a lot of problem).
I've thinked to convert the outlook file in a mailbox (with an external
utility) file and then in a maildir archive and place a courier IMAP on the
server with the maildir stored messages, so all the messages will be kept in the
server with no problem for the Outlook client.
I've a little question for this method:
- Is maildir more reliable and fast of mailbox this big size of file/s?
- Will be IMAP slower the Mail usage because the large net traffic (i've a 10mb
lan) ? or all will work fine?
- Will the server support this big traffic/resource utilizzation? (the server
is a linux debian 2.2 PII 500 128Mb ram 8 Gb UDMA33 hd)
Thanks for your help.
Davide.
-------------------------------------------
(O> Davide Giunchi. Duke_Nuke on ircnet
//\ Membro del Forli' Linux User Group
V_/_ PGP key available
once you have the IMAP account added to the outlook setup,
you should be able to drag/drop folders/messages from one account into the
other.
(might be the right time to clean a few out)
you dont have to do them all at once do you.
once the messages are stored on the imap server:
if you dont use offline mode in outlook, only the message headers are
transferred over the network when checking mail ...
my 2 cents
wolfgang
On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 01:40:42AM -0700, Greg White wrote:
> Well, it appears that you have some large problems with DNS. Please see
> the attached file. Your DNS appears to be completely broken.
>
> ;)
Hurrah, that'll teach 'em! Seriously though, suppose ``domain'' is a
TLD they use internally... :-)
/me checks to see if .domain is taken in ORSC:
$ dnsq ns domain a.root-servers.orsc
2 domain:
81 bytes, 1+0+1+0 records, response, authoritative, weird ra, nxdomain
query: 2 domain
authority: . 86400 SOA ns1.vrx.net hostmaster.ns1.vrx.net 2000082500 10800 900 604800
86400
I guess not, huh? Must be an internal TLD... :-)
---Chris K.
--
Chris, the Young One |_ but what's a dropped message between friends?
Auckland, New Zealand |_ this is UDP, not TCP after all ;) ---John H.
http://cloud9.hedgee.com/ |_ Robinson, IV
hello,
I tried to set up qmail aliases via .qmail-alias and it worked well
with single names.
But all aliases like .qmail-melanie.desaive etc. did not work.
I tried to escape the dot with \ # "" but nothing worked.
I did not find anything about this problem in the qmail documentations.
If someone knows how to create such aliases, please let me know.
greetings,
Melanie
On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:12:35AM +0200, Melanie Desaive wrote:
> But all aliases like .qmail-melanie.desaive etc. did not work.
> I tried to escape the dot with \ # "" but nothing worked.
> I did not find anything about this problem in the qmail documentations.
Read FAQ 4.6.
---Chris K.
--
Chris, the Young One |_ but what's a dropped message between friends?
Auckland, New Zealand |_ this is UDP, not TCP after all ;) ---John H.
http://cloud9.hedgee.com/ |_ Robinson, IV
On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:12:35AM +0200, Melanie Desaive wrote:
> I tried to set up qmail aliases via .qmail-alias and it worked well
> with single names.
> But all aliases like .qmail-melanie.desaive etc. did not work.
> I tried to escape the dot with \ # "" but nothing worked.
man dot-qmail:
WARNING: For security, qmail-local replaces any dots in
ext with colons before checking .qmail-ext. For conve-
nience, qmail-local converts any uppercase letters in ext
to lowercase.
> I did not find anything about this problem in the qmail documentations.
Regards, Uwe
Dear Managers
I have a problem after of installed daemontools 0.7
I installed qmail of documentation "LWQ"
then I run this:
qmail start
show me:
17417:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
17420:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
17423:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
and when run:
qmail stop
show me:
Stopping qmail: svscan qmailsvc: warning: unable to chdir to
/var/qmail/supervise/nohup.out: not a directory
logging.
What's the problem..?
Thanks for all your responses..
I am going out on a limb here but did you compile daemontools yourself?
Or was it some precompiled binary?
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lista Qmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:41 AM
Subject: TRYING SUPERVISE
> Dear Managers
> I have a problem after of installed daemontools 0.7
> I installed qmail of documentation "LWQ"
> then I run this:
> qmail start
> show me:
> 17417:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> 17420:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> 17423:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
>
> and when run:
> qmail stop
> show me:
> Stopping qmail: svscan qmailsvc: warning: unable to chdir to
> /var/qmail/supervise/nohup.out: not a directory
> logging.
>
> What's the problem..?
>
> Thanks for all your responses..
>
>
>
Very, very very thanks ... por your reply
I download from :
http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/daemontools-0.70.tar.gz
It's the tallbar distribution
I did all of here:
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html
Please help me...
How can check it?
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Tim Hunter wrote:
> I am going out on a limb here but did you compile daemontools yourself?
> Or was it some precompiled binary?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Lista Qmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:41 AM
> Subject: TRYING SUPERVISE
>
>
> > Dear Managers
> > I have a problem after of installed daemontools 0.7
> > I installed qmail of documentation "LWQ"
> > then I run this:
> > qmail start
> > show me:
> > 17417:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> > 17420:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> > 17423:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> >
> > and when run:
> > qmail stop
> > show me:
> > Stopping qmail: svscan qmailsvc: warning: unable to chdir to
> > /var/qmail/supervise/nohup.out: not a directory
> > logging.
> >
> > What's the problem..?
> >
> > Thanks for all your responses..
> >
> >
> >
>
a malloc is trying to allocate memory, do you have enough resources on your
box?
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tim Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Lista Qmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: TRYING SUPERVISE
> Very, very very thanks ... por your reply
> I download from :
> http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/daemontools-0.70.tar.gz
> It's the tallbar distribution
>
> I did all of here:
> http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html
>
> Please help me...
> How can check it?
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Tim Hunter wrote:
>
> > I am going out on a limb here but did you compile daemontools yourself?
> > Or was it some precompiled binary?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Lista Qmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:41 AM
> > Subject: TRYING SUPERVISE
> >
> >
> > > Dear Managers
> > > I have a problem after of installed daemontools 0.7
> > > I installed qmail of documentation "LWQ"
> > > then I run this:
> > > qmail start
> > > show me:
> > > 17417:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> > > 17420:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> > > 17423:/sbin/loader: Fatal Error: cannot malloc
> > >
> > > and when run:
> > > qmail stop
> > > show me:
> > > Stopping qmail: svscan qmailsvc: warning: unable to chdir to
> > > /var/qmail/supervise/nohup.out: not a directory
> > > logging.
> > >
> > > What's the problem..?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your responses..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 10:17:42PM -0700, Jerry Hsieh wrote:
> I tried to start to qmail-pop3d but it shows a message "-ERR this user has no
> $HOME/Maildir". But all the users do have the Maildir directory. I don't know
> why? Can anyone help me with this? Thanks.
How exactly are you starting qmail-pop3?
Chris
hi all!
apology for this is not exactly a qmail specified question - we do use qmail
though. ;)
we are on the process of migrating of mail server, now have come to the
point that we need to change
mail.mydomain.com from 123.123.123.123 (old server ip) to 345.345.345.345
(new server ip)
wonder if anyone have any advice or experience on how to go about this
process? what are the better way to do this, in order to minimize /
eliminate the chances of lost mail?
thanks in advance!!
best regards,
mok
Hello mok,
Saturday, August 26, 2000, 7:39:47 PM, you wrote:
msl> hi all!
msl> apology for this is not exactly a qmail specified question - we do use qmail
msl> though. ;)
msl> we are on the process of migrating of mail server, now have come to the
msl> point that we need to change
msl> mail.mydomain.com from 123.123.123.123 (old server ip) to 345.345.345.345
msl> (new server ip)
msl> wonder if anyone have any advice or experience on how to go about this
msl> process? what are the better way to do this, in order to minimize /
msl> eliminate the chances of lost mail?
msl> thanks in advance!!
msl> best regards,
msl> mok
Hi,
Ive done this last week and we did it like this:
1. unplug the old server from network
2. bind the old servers ip to the new server and let it be there until
evrey dns server has been updated.
We lost no mail when we did this, (we switched from MailMax on NT to a
clustered qmail system on Linux), the only problems was to get the
mails that already was delivered to the MailMax system to the new
system. But that was solved with a little bit of scripting.
Best Regards
Magnus L�fqvist
Worldnet AB
Sweden
This method will work ok. However if you want to be robust about it,
you should set up a secondary MX that will receive/queue email but not
deliver it locally to that machine.
That way email getting delivered to your address in the interim won't
bounce. The mail will remain in the queue of your backup machine until
you're ready to bring up your new mail server. Your backup machine
will then deliver to your new server.
=== Al
--- Magnus L�fqivst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ive done this last week and we did it like this:
>
> 1. unplug the old server from network
> 2. bind the old servers ip to the new server and let it be there until
> evrey dns server has been updated.
>
> We lost no mail when we did this, (we switched from MailMax on NT to a
> clustered qmail system on Linux), the only problems was to get the
> mails that already was delivered to the MailMax system to the new
> system. But that was solved with a little bit of scripting.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Magnus L�fqvist
> Worldnet AB
> Sweden
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Bjorn sodergren wrote:
>
> All of a sudden get this message on all of my virtual domains....
>
> "The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the
>server. The rejected e-mail address was '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Subject '',
>Account: 'anonhost.net', Server: 'mail.anonhost.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server
>Response: '553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)',
>Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 553, Error Number: 0x800CCC79 "
>
> what i do is run the ./config script in the qmail source directory, restart qmail
>with the qmail init script, and i get this error all the time.
Did you check your locals, rcpthosts and virtualdomains file in your
control directory?
Can you send and receive mail with this server if it is not a virtual
domain?
--
Dale Miracle
System Administrator
Teoi Virtual Web Hosting
I'm also having a problem with supervise. I setup QMAIL following LWQ, and
it's working OK, but in order to get it to work, I had to add a pop3 line to
inetd.conf. It's been working that way for a few months, but now I need to
setup POP before SMTP. I tried writing my own setup to work with inetd, but
I can't seem to get the IP address passed through checkpasswd.
So, I went back to trying to get supervise to work. I went through LWQ
again, and made sure I had everything running OK. When I do a "qmail start"
I get this:
supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: temporary failure
supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: temporary failure
supervise: fatal: unable to acquire qmail-send/supervise/lock: temporary
failure
supervise: fatal: unable to acquire qmail-smtpd/supervise/lock: temporary
failure
This message keeps repeating over and over until I kill the supervise
process, and, of course, connecting to port 110 I get "connection refused".
So, I'm looking to see why supervise is failing like this, and/or help on
getting the IP address of the calling client passed through checkpasswd. I
use Paul Gregg's checkpassword, so I can have multiple email only accounts
running as one system user. I did find one POP before SMTP setup that
patched checkpasswd, but I didn't think it would work with the version I'm
using.
Any advise or ideas appreciated,
Peter Janett
Director of Interactive Media
http://www.healthwell.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
