qmail Digest 28 Aug 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1106
Topics (messages 47467 through 47488):
smtp-authorization vs pop3-authorisation
47467 by: Fat Toolz
Re: ESMTP AUTH and qmail
47468 by: Charles Cazabon
47470 by: Chin Fang
47471 by: Sean C Truman
Weird Problems.
47469 by: Sean C Truman
47474 by: Eric Cox
Reasonable soft limits
47472 by: Michael T. Babcock
Clean up syslog for analog
47473 by: Michael T. Babcock
Re: Off-Topic: Maildirs as folders
47475 by: Len Budney
where LDAP server
47476 by: David
47477 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
header rewrite based on DNS MX record?
47478 by: J!M
47479 by: Alexander Pennace
memphis rpm users
47480 by: Mate Wierdl
help forwarding !!?
47481 by: Thomas Ackermann
47482 by: Brett Randall
Problem with relaying.
47483 by: Thomas Novin
47486 by: Jamie Heilman
forwarding
47484 by: Alan Chung
47485 by: Alan Chung
47487 by: sen_ml.eccosys.com
47488 by: Brett Randall
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Hi qmail,
I just found out that the authorizing delay is NOT
caused by the POP3 daemon (or not longer, after disabling tcpserver
ident-service 113) but during the sending of mails. POP3 is now as fast as it
was before (over simple cross-link), but the qmail-smtpd takes that lot of
time for the authorization. There must be a way to make it check as fast as
POP3, isn't it?
Stef
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Kris Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My original plan of using something like relay-ctrl for SMTP-after-IMAP fell
> through when I remembered the system I am putting together will use multiple
> load-shared machines, which means the machine handling a user's outgoing
> message may not be the same machine handling his/her IMAP connection. So, I
> need something that works with SMTP directly, or otherwise doesn't require
> something that might break when multiple servers are involved.
You may still be able to do it. The tcprules .cdb file is generated/updated
atomically, so why not share a single copy of it among your SMTP servers?
Have relay-ctrl share a directory across the POP3 servers, putting their
entries in a common directory, and updating the same .cdb file. Then it should
work fine, no matter how the connections get distributed. Of course, there's
slightly higher risk due to having the NFS server which hosts this
directory and .cdb file as a single point of failure.
Charles
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Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QCC Communications Corporation Saskatoon, SK
My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
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> You may still be able to do it. The tcprules .cdb file is generated/updated
> atomically, so why not share a single copy of it among your SMTP servers?
> Have relay-ctrl share a directory across the POP3 servers, putting their
> entries in a common directory, and updating the same .cdb file. Then it should
> work fine, no matter how the connections get distributed. Of course, there's
> slightly higher risk due to having the NFS server which hosts this
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> directory and .cdb file as a single point of failure.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
To avoid this potential trouble, rsync + openssh - NFS
Regards,
Chin Fang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Charles
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> QCC Communications Corporation Saskatoon, SK
> My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
If you are doing load sharing between machines. then your best bet is to use
the ucspi-mysql.patch That was released about 2 weeks ago.. This allows you
to look off a Mysql TABLE instead of using the CDB file.. (I have ran into
many problems with my machines.. Doing DNS load balancing for SMTP) I was
running into NFS file locking problems when I implemented the POP3 to SMTP
authenication.
Sean Truman
www.prodigysolutions.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Chin Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: ESMTP AUTH and qmail
> > You may still be able to do it. The tcprules .cdb file is
generated/updated
> > atomically, so why not share a single copy of it among your SMTP
servers?
> > Have relay-ctrl share a directory across the POP3 servers, putting their
> > entries in a common directory, and updating the same .cdb file. Then it
should
> > work fine, no matter how the connections get distributed. Of course,
there's
> > slightly higher risk due to having the NFS server which hosts this
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > directory and .cdb file as a single point of failure.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> To avoid this potential trouble, rsync + openssh - NFS
>
> Regards,
>
> Chin Fang
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >
> > Charles
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > QCC Communications Corporation Saskatoon, SK
> > My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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Hey guys,
Ok I am to my wits end on a
problem.
1) tcpserver hangs for 2-4 min
after 4-10 min of operations. Looking at the problem it looks like the TCPSERVER
hangs and svscan restarts it after 2-4 mins. If I Kill the tcpserver processes
ever 5 min I dont have any problems.. (This one is really killing me..) I know
its not a DNS issue, I know its not equipment issues (After replacing a 2500
series Cisco with 2600 series, and replacing old BAY networks switch with new
Cisco Castlyst 2900 series) This problem just started happening last week. (The
machine has been processing mail fine for last 230 days) I also have tried to
recompile tcpserver to no avail. And it is completely random, tcpserver locks up
when there is a Heavy Load and when there is no load on the
machine.
Any help is much appreciated.
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> Sean C Truman wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Ok I am to my wits end on a problem.
>
> 1) tcpserver hangs for 2-4 min after 4-10 min of operations. Looking at
> the problem it looks like the TCPSERVER hangs and svscan restarts it after 2-4
> mins. If I Kill the tcpserver processes ever 5 min I dont have any problems..
> (This one is really killing me..) I know its not a DNS issue, I know its not
> equipment issues (After replacing a 2500 series Cisco with 2600 series, and
> replacing old BAY networks switch with new Cisco Castlyst 2900 series) This
> problem just started happening last week. (The machine has been processing
> mail fine for last 230 days) I also have tried to recompile tcpserver to no
> avail. And it is completely random, tcpserver locks up when there is a Heavy
> Load and when there is no load on the machine.
Chances are I'm not going to be the one answering this question, it's a bit out
of my area of expertise. But I do feel compelled to give some advice: you would
be much more likely to actually get an answer if you provide some (any) info
about your setup. At this point we know there are a few Cisco switches on your
network, but we don't even know which OS you're running. Here are some
questions:
What OS?
What hardware? (espesially network hardware)
How (exactly) is your machine connected to the internet?
What else is running on the machine?
Those are just the ones that popped into my head in a few seconds. Something
tells me the guru that answers this question is going to need alot more info
than that...
Good Luck,
Eric
Does anybody have suggested soft memory use, etc. limits to place on
smtpd and qmqpd on a machine with 48M RAM that typically has 10M free?
--
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http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/
Just in case this is of any use to anyone else out there, I've been
using a quick little PERL program to clean up my tcpserver logs which
are output to syslog (no, I don't use multilog, because I send all my
logs to a remote server over our network and don't keep them locally for
long).
I use:
cat /var/log/maillog \
| qmail-syslog-cleanup.pl \
| matchup \
> /tmp/qmail-log-matched.dat
... and then process that file with the various z* programs from
qmailanalog.
qmail-syslog-cleanup.pl:
#!/usr/bin/perl
while (<>)
{
if (/tcpserver/) {
s/(.*: )(\d*\.\d* .*)/$2/;
print $_;
}
}
Incidentally, if anyone has a better/faster version, feel free to tell
me.
--
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http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/
"Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Len Budney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000825 20:30]:
> >
> > The problems with that are (1) I *want* a command-line interface...
> > (2) I'd like to see the job done right, once...
>
> I don't see the problem, really. Use Gnus http://www.gnus.org/ and
> you're there.
"There" meaning that I'd have an email CLI using maildirs as folders?
I was unaware that GNUS was a CLI; I thought it ran inside Emacs.
> Best MUA on earth, anyway.
Yes, I do like it.
> Supports maildir...(tentatively reaching beta status) as a native select
> method.
I can't find anything about this at the GNUS site. Can you give me a more
specific pointer? If GNUS supports maildir as a folder, then that makes three
such mailers (mutt and Pine being the other two).
Note, though, that I'm only interested in mailers which don't break
concurrency. I'm still evaluating the choices, but they do things which make
me nervous, like using collision-prone file names.
> It also speaks IMAP, MIME and basically everything else one needs...
Although I question the wisdom of mailreaders getting into the MTA/MDA
business.
Len.
--
Run two mailreaders; never lose messages!
<http://www.pobox.com/~lbudney/linux/mdmh.html>
Hello,everyone.
anybody can tell me where to find LDAP server which can
worked with qmail.
Thanks.
David
08-28-2000
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 09:11:05AM +0800, David wrote:
> Hello,everyone.
>
> anybody can tell me where to find LDAP server which can
> worked with qmail.
AFAIK, any LDAP server will do.
Also, qmail+LDAP is discussed in another mailing list:
send an empty e-mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to join
it. And look at http://www.nrg4u.com/ while you're at it.
RC
> Thanks.
>
>
> David
> 08-28-2000
>
>
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Hello,
I've just gotten qmail up and running, and I'm having an annoying
problem with some mail sent from virtual domains. Apparently,
some receiving mail servers check DNS MX records for the
sender's domain, and rewrite the from: sender: and reply-to:
headers based on the DNS response.
Based on the DNS & BIND book, I've got the MX records for all of
my virtual domains set to the FQDN of my mail server. Is it
possible for me to replace the FQDN with the virtual domain in my
DNS MX records and still have qmail recognize and accept
incoming mail for these domains? I have these domains listed in
my rcpthosts file.
Thanks for help/suggestions.
Jim
On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 09:43:46PM +0000, J!M wrote:
> I'm having an annoying
> problem with some mail sent from virtual domains. Apparently,
> some receiving mail servers check DNS MX records for the
> sender's domain, and rewrite the from: sender: and reply-to:
> headers based on the DNS response.
Send a clue to postmaster@stupidserver. They shouldn't be doing that.
> Based on the DNS & BIND book, I've got the MX records for all of
> my virtual domains set to the FQDN of my mail server. Is it
> possible for me to replace the FQDN with the virtual domain in my
> DNS MX records and still have qmail recognize and accept
> incoming mail for these domains? I have these domains listed in
> my rcpthosts file.
Yes, as long as the MX points to a canonical name (an A record vs a
CNAME record).
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Curtis Doty kindly pointed out to me that there is a bad bug in the
functions rpm. Indeed, in 00functions.sh, if the mktemp call fails,
possibly all files in the current directory get removed. Ouch!
Please update to functions-4:
rpm -Uvh ftp://moni.msci.memphis.edu/pub/run/functions-4-2.noarch.rpm
Mate
can anyone tell me how to forward mail received for a specific domain ??
in example, if i am
a.com
i wanna forward all mail i recv for b.com to c.com
help???
Make sure b.com is in rcpthosts (you may or may not want it in locals,
depending on how you've set up your e-mail)
And in smtproutes, put the line b.com:c.com and you're done! Of course,
c.com has to be able to receive for b.com (ie have it in rcpthosts, and in
locals).
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Ackermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 5:44 PM
> To: qmail
> Subject: help forwarding !!?
>
>
> can anyone tell me how to forward mail received for a specific domain ??
> in example, if i am
> a.com
> i wanna forward all mail i recv for b.com to c.com
> help???
Hi.
I'm having a problem sending mail through my qmail server to outside
servers. I think I've set up qmail to allow relaying just as described.
Let's say my IP is 1.2.3.4 for the mail server and the client is 1.2.3.5.
The mailhost's name is my.mailhost.com.
$ grep tcp-env hosts.allow
tcp-env: 127.0.0., 1.2.3. : setenv RELAYCLIENT
$ telnet my.mailhost.com
Connected to my.mailhost.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 my.mailhost.com ESMTP
EHLO
250-my.mailhost.com
250-PIPELINING
250 8BITMIME
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
$ cat /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
localhost
my.mailhost.com
$ grep smtp inetd.conf
smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /usr/sbin/tcpd /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
Is the something that I have missed? Some additional info: Slackware 7.1,
qmail 1.03, uses inetd. Since there is only < 10 users on the system I
don't see any reason running tcpserver.
Thomas Novin wrote:
> $ grep tcp-env hosts.allow
> tcp-env: 127.0.0., 1.2.3. : setenv RELAYCLIENT
a) iirc, that isn't the correct syntax for using tcp-env and tcp_wrappers,
I believe its "setenv=RELAYCLIENT"
b) make sure your tcp_wrappers were compiled with the extended syntax
> qmail 1.03, uses inetd. Since there is only < 10 users on the system I
> don't see any reason running tcpserver.
the number of users you support has no bearing on inetd being easily DoS'd
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"You came all this way way without saying squat and now you're trying
to tell me a '56 Chevy can beat a '47 Buick in a dead quarter mile?
I liked you better when you weren't saying squat kid." -Buddy
Please give me some advice if anyone out there knows how to do this.
I have two mail servers, pear.mydomain (in Office A) and papaya.mydomain
(in Office B). They are both running qmail but located physically in
different places. Pear is my MX. Basically, I want the people in Office B
are able to receive and deliver mails from papaya instead of from MX
pear. And the people in Office A still use pear as MX to receive and
deliver mails. If I setup smtproutes, qmail will forward all mails to
papaya. This is not what I want to do. Can I set up forwarding for each
person individually and have qmail on MX (pear) to forward mails to papaya
only for those people in Office B without leaving mails locally? Or is
there any other better way of doing this?
Thanks in advanced.
Alan
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Please give me some advice if anyone out there knows how to do this.
I have two mail servers, pear.mydomain (in Office A) and papaya.mydomain
(in Office B). They are both running qmail but located physically in
different places. Pear is my MX. Basically, I want the people in Office B
are able to receive and deliver mails from papaya instead of from MX
pear. And the people in Office A still use pear as MX to receive and
deliver mails. If I setup smtproutes, qmail will forward all mails to
papaya. This is not what I want to do. Can I set up forwarding for each
person individually and have qmail on MX (pear) to forward mails to papaya
only for those people in Office B without leaving mails locally? Or is
there any other better way of doing this?
Thanks in advanced.
Alan
From: Alan Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: forwarding
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:05:00 +0900
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Please give me some advice if anyone out there knows how to do this.
did you miss my reply last week?
> I have two mail servers, pear.mydomain (in Office A) and papaya.mydomain
> (in Office B). They are both running qmail but located physically in
> different places. Pear is my MX. Basically, I want the people in Office B
> are able to receive and deliver mails from papaya instead of from MX
> pear. And the people in Office A still use pear as MX to receive and
> deliver mails. If I setup smtproutes, qmail will forward all mails to
> papaya. This is not what I want to do. Can I set up forwarding for each
> person individually and have qmail on MX (pear) to forward mails to papaya
> only for those people in Office B without leaving mails locally?
yes -- again, depending on what you mean by "without leaving mail
locally".
you can set up .qmail files for each user you want to have mail
forwarded for.
here is one way:
for each such user of office b, place an appropriate .qmail file in
their home directory on pear that specifies where to forward mail to
(see the dot-qmail man page for details on what you can place in
.qmail files).
if you don't have home directories for people in office b on pear,
create appropriate .qmail files in /var/qmail/alias/ for each of them
(on pear) which forward mail to their respective papaya addresses.
see:
http://www.qmail.org/man/misc/INSTALL.alias.txt
for more details.
you might find reading through:
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq.html
to be helpful as well.
does this answer your question?
> you can set up .qmail files for each user you want to have mail
> forwarded for.
OR you can simply mount an NFS share from office B on the office A server,
use NIS so that the passwords, usernames, home folders, etc are the same on
both machines, and have all the office A machines say with home folders in
/home and all the office B users mounted via NFS in say /remote (with
/remote/user as the office B users' home folders). Not as complex as it
sounds. But then again... :>
This is what we have done, but we have had to provide for unlimited,
worldwide extensibility so ours is a little more complex and secure, but
internally this will work fine...
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
