qmail Digest 6 Sep 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1115
Topics (messages 47951 through 48105):
Email to SMS
47951 by: rod.poptel.net
47952 by: Brett Randall
47953 by: Johan Almqvist
47958 by: Gerrit Pape
47961 by: Steve Kennedy
48076 by: Eric Cox
48078 by: Aage Baardsen
how do you unsubscribe?
47954 by: Kris Keele
47955 by: Brett Randall
Re: I have a problem
47956 by: Steve Carter
47957 by: Fabio Pedrazzoli
48020 by: Johan Almqvist
48026 by: Ihnen, David
48074 by: Eric Cox
tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
47959 by: Philip Tong
47962 by: Brett Randall
47964 by: Dave Sill
.qmail-user after .qmail-default? (WAS: Temporary_error..)
47960 by: Manuel Gisbert
qmail with mysql
47963 by: Sebastian Wolfgarten
47965 by: Sean C Truman
Re: Limiting qmail to save OS
47966 by: Claus F�rber
Re: Alias Support Question
47967 by: Tim Hunter
47968 by: tom.sarratt.jr
47972 by: Dave Sill
48018 by: tom.sarratt.jr
48029 by: Tim Hunter
48052 by: tom.sarratt.jr
48054 by: Dale Miracle
48061 by: tom.sarratt.jr
Re: rcpthosts prob
47969 by: Dave Sill
Re: qmail-start with error=111
47970 by: gmo.gmx.de
rblsmtpd
47971 by: Manuel Gisbert
47973 by: steve j. kondik
47975 by: Antonio Dias
Re: qmail & SSL
47974 by: Dave Sill
Re: Slightly Off Topic
47976 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
48031 by: David Dyer-Bennet
48044 by: Peter van Dijk
48057 by: Peter Green
ORBS doesn't like me :(
47977 by: Andy Meuse
47979 by: Vince Vielhaber
47980 by: Alexander Pennace
47981 by: Andy Meuse
47983 by: Johan Almqvist
47984 by: Dave Sill
47985 by: Peter van Dijk
47986 by: Vince Vielhaber
47987 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
47988 by: Justin Bell
47990 by: Andy Meuse
47993 by: Peter van Dijk
47994 by: Johan Almqvist
47997 by: Chris Johnson
47999 by: Charles Cazabon
48000 by: Kris Kelley
48002 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
48003 by: James Raftery
48004 by: Ihnen, David
48005 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
48008 by: Andy Meuse
48011 by: James Raftery
48013 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
48016 by: Charles Cazabon
48022 by: Andy Meuse
48030 by: David Dyer-Bennet
48032 by: Vince Vielhaber
48036 by: Andy Meuse
48037 by: Vince Vielhaber
48038 by: Aaron L. Meehan
48040 by: Andy Meuse
48047 by: Peter van Dijk
48071 by: Chris K. Young
Re: Debian GNU/Linux (potato) Packages: var-qmail
47978 by: Russell Nelson
48033 by: Jamie Heilman
48070 by: Chris K. Young
48073 by: Jamie Heilman
qmail-inject with rcpt to:
47982 by: chchen
47989 by: Dave Sill
47992 by: Chris Johnson
Setup Antispam
47991 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe
47996 by: Chris Johnson
48001 by: Charles Cazabon
48028 by: David Dyer-Bennet
imap response problem
47995 by: root
QMTP
47998 by: Austad, Jay
48007 by: Michael T. Babcock
48021 by: Peter van Dijk
48034 by: Austad, Jay
48045 by: Peter van Dijk
48102 by: Claus F�rber
xinetd and qmail-pop3d
48006 by: pgracia.amira.es
48012 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
48039 by: Erwin Hoffmann
Semi-OT: Allowing only specific email clients.
48009 by: Kris Kelley
48025 by: martin langhoff
You sure do (was Re: I have a problem)
48010 by: Stephen Bosch
48014 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
48017 by: Peter van Dijk
48019 by: Chris Garrigues
48079 by: Eric Cox
List performance?
48015 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
Re: Real slow shutdown of RedHat 6.x
48023 by: Mate Wierdl
Re: file /users/assign
48024 by: Ken Jones
48098 by: Marco
Re: Shouldn't rcpthosts be empty to ward off spam?
48027 by: David Dyer-Bennet
Date field shows GMT time
48035 by: Albert Hopkins
48046 by: Peter van Dijk
48050 by: Alexander Pennace
daemontools 4 linux
48041 by: jakubski.poczta.arena.pl
48049 by: Peter van Dijk
qmail-smtpd logging
48042 by: Larry M. Smith
listproc to ezmlm, anyone done this???
48043 by: John McCoy, Jr
variable mail delivery
48048 by: Ingo.Lohmar.gmx.de
preline pitfall
48051 by: Peter van Dijk
Bounce capablity lost
48053 by: Wilson Henriquez
48056 by: Vince Vielhaber
Re: deferral message 451
48055 by: Aaron L. Meehan
We desire e-mail duplication
48058 by: Ihnen, David
Re: 'Running qmail'
48059 by: Russell Davies
48060 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
48062 by: Kathleen Farber
48063 by: Russell Davies
48065 by: tom.sarratt.jr
48072 by: Kourosh Ghassemieh
how to get off the mailing list?
48064 by: Sam Carleton
48067 by: Don Wright
48068 by: Don Wright
48069 by: Mike Glover
48080 by: Don Wright
48083 by: Eric Cox
[Qmail]Can qmail be used with procmail?
48066 by: Hazy Xu
48103 by: Peter van Dijk
timestamp
48075 by: Alan Chung
48077 by: Charles Warwick
AOL failing?
48081 by: Adam McKenna
tcpserver as an alternative to firewall?
48082 by: John Conover
"Running qmail" - by Richard Blum
48084 by: Magnus Bodin
Monitoring Email
48085 by: Leslie Bester les.LES.NET
48087 by: Robin S. Socha
48088 by: Leslie Bester les.LES.NET
48089 by: Adam McKenna
48091 by: Steve Carter
48092 by: Robin S. Socha
48093 by: Adam McKenna
48094 by: Robin S. Socha
48096 by: Robin S. Socha
48100 by: Leslie Bester les.LES.NET
48104 by: Peter van Dijk
timestamp error
48086 by: Alan Chung
log database
48090 by: Clemens Hermann
Re: Monitoring Email - Clarified
48095 by: Leslie Bester les.LES.NET
bounce mail w/ an attachment how to delete
48097 by: Kimberly Vher
Flame (Dont read if you hate this like I do)
48099 by: Leslie Bester les.LES.NET
48105 by: Robin S. Socha
qmail 25 port problem
48101 by: kapil sharma
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Is there a add on for qmail to enable email to SMS.
Best regards
Rod
Email to SMS requires a calling card in your PC which is connected to a
mobile telephony device with data capabilities. OR, there are several online
sites that provide this service. Here in Australia, we have
www.blueskyfrog.com and www.mobilealert.com.au . You may have some luck
finding similar services in the UK. Actually, I can almost guarantee it. Try
www.mtnsms.com although it has been a while since I looked at it.
I haven't seen any software to interface with cellular devices for Linux,
but there is plenty for Windows out there that acts as e-mail servers as
well... you might want to run it as the 'add-on' for qmail on a seperate
machine. Look up SMS Gateway on your favourite search engine...
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 7:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Email to SMS
>
>
> Is there a add on for qmail to enable email to SMS.
>
> Best regards
>
> Rod
>
>
>
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:59:04AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a add on for qmail to enable email to SMS.
Not that I know of, but it should probably be very easy to do.
The problem is finding a reliable and free SMS gateway.
> Best regards
-Johan
--
Johan Almqvist
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:59:04AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a add on for qmail to enable email to SMS.
>
I did a mail2sms gateway on linux using isdn4linux and yaps just with a
small perl-script, not much work. If you are interested in this solution,
mail me.
Regards, Gerrit.
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networking people
tel: +49.30.308806-0 fax: -77 http://innominate.de
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:02:42PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> Email to SMS requires a calling card in your PC which is connected to a
> mobile telephony device with data capabilities. OR, there are several online
> sites that provide this service. Here in Australia, we have
> www.blueskyfrog.com and www.mobilealert.com.au . You may have some luck
> finding similar services in the UK. Actually, I can almost guarantee it. Try
> www.mtnsms.com although it has been a while since I looked at it.
> I haven't seen any software to interface with cellular devices for Linux,
> but there is plenty for Windows out there that acts as e-mail servers as
> well... you might want to run it as the 'add-on' for qmail on a seperate
> machine. Look up SMS Gateway on your favourite search engine...
There are several ways to interface into SMS networks. You can do
this over air via a phone, or via a connection into the networks
SMS-C.
You could install something like Kannel (www.kannel.org) which is
a WAP gateway and an SMS gateway. The SMS part has functionality
to drive various cellular data phones, it can also talk to the
network SMS-C's using various protocols (however you'll need a
connection agreement from the network to use these).
You could also use something like sendpage (sendpage.sourceforge.net)
which implements a TAP (i.e. dial-up) interface into the networks
(and most have a public dial-up number, though generally premium rate).
There are other alternatives like www.qpage.org ...
Steve
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"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>
> Is there a add on for qmail to enable email to SMS.
>
Nothing specifically for qmail (that I know of), but for general Unix,
it shouldn't be too hard to cobble up a script or two using sms_client:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/smsclient/?highlight=sms_client
I use it to notify me of major problems on my network, and when my servers
detect hackers nosing around. Works very well...
Eric
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> >
> > Is there a add on for qmail to enable email to SMS.
> >
>
> Nothing specifically for qmail (that I know of), but for general Unix,
> it shouldn't be too hard to cobble up a script or two using sms_client:
>
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/smsclient/?highlight=sms_client
>
> I use it to notify me of major problems on my network, and when my servers
> detect hackers nosing around. Works very well...
>
Hello, i'm sorry to be interrupting you. But, i was wondering how i can
send messages to the discussion list. I am injoined.
Maybe you could help me out directly? I'm trying to send a copy of
all my messages to a second address, and still retain it on the
original email address. I've tried to put this into my .qmail file in my
home directory.
~/.qmail
second@address
./Mailbox
But it doesent work.
I use procmail to deliever to /var/spool/mail/$USER
This is the error message i get:
:35:57 izeman qmail: 968218557.463976 delivery 16: deferral:
Uh-oh:_.qmail_has_file_delivery_but_has_x_bit_set._(#4.7.0)/
Thanks for any help :)
�ge
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kris Keele
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: how do you unsubscribe?
>
>
>
>
>
> I think this was meant to be some kind of cruel joke...After
> all, Ima Guru =
> I'm A Guru? Perhaps...
Well, it was certainly a cr...[something] joke... :-)
Please guru write down your problem.
Ima Guru wrote:
> I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
>
> - Ima Guru
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:02:28PM -0500, Ima Guru wrote:
> I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
Help!
I don't have a problem with qmail. Please give me one!
-Johan
--
Johan Almqvist
Impliment an LDAP lookup with mailboxes referenced to different LDAP servers
via the data in a mySQL database, and be sure to add in content filtering so
that no dirty jokes get through, and open to relay and consult ORBS, get
yourself on the RBL list, and put the queue on a really small partition.
David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Almqvist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: I have a problem
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:02:28PM -0500, Ima Guru wrote:
> > I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix
> it? Thanks!
>
> Help!
>
> I don't have a problem with qmail. Please give me one!
>
> -Johan
> --
> Johan Almqvist
>
And then mail it to .... someone.
Eric
Fabio Pedrazzoli wrote:
>
> Please guru write down your problem.
>
> Ima Guru wrote:
>
> > I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
> >
I'm new to QMail and is trying to setup a server using RH 6.2.
I'm trying to set it up to become a SMTP and POP3 server.
I have followed the instructions as given by the user guide "Life with
QMail". It was able to start fine until I added the POP3 service using
"qmail-pop3d".
I added a directory 'qmail-pop3d' in '/var/qmail/supervise' with a 'run'
file saying
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 200 -v -p 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
192.168.1.205 \
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
The other 'run' files that I had are:-
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/log/run
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t
/var/log/qmail/pop3
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 200 -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
-u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log/run
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t
/var/log/qmail/smtpd
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/run
#!/bin/sh
exec /var/qmail/rc
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t
/var/log/qmail
When I started the the QMail service the error
tcpserver : fatal: unable to bind: address already used
started apperaing non-stop on the screen. I was able to send and receive
mail via a mail client though.
What actually caused this problem? If anybody knows or have experience this
problem before, please help or point me in the right direction to the
answers. I have tried reading the man pages of 'tcpserver'. That didn't help
me.
Thanks in advance.
> When I started the the QMail service the error
>
> tcpserver : fatal: unable to bind: address already used
This error usually refers to the fact that the port it is trying to use to
serve on is already taken. In your tcpserver line, you tell it to use port
pop3. First, make sure that this port is listed in /etc/services. By default
in RedHat, pop-3 and pop-2 are listed, but not pop3. Either add the pop3
entry (it is a tcp port), or change the tcpserver startup line to say pop-3
instead.
Also, check /etc/inetd.conf and ensure the the default pop3 (in.pop3d)
daemon is not running, because this will steal port 110.
Hope this helps!
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
"Philip Tong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I added a directory 'qmail-pop3d' in '/var/qmail/supervise' with a 'run'
>file saying
>
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 200 -v -p 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
>192.168.1.205 \
> /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
Replace the trailing `&' with `2>&1'.
-Dave
I was able to encircle that virtual domain prob
(descriped in my message "Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/"):
The error is independend from my .qmail-user files, but shows up when I put
.qmail-default
file in that directory containing path to Maildir of postmaster to catch all
non-matching mail.
Also I still don't understand that error, as Im able to deliver to
postmaster directly,
I wonder whether .qmail-default is processed before .qmail-user and NOT only
in case no matching Maildir or .qmail-user file exist???
Any comments on that?
Thanx Manuel
Hi,
how do I set up qmail to run with mysql,
where can I get information about this?
Thanks,
Sebastian
Sebastian,
See www.vpopmail.cx it is a very nice virtual domain manager for qmail..
It supports Sybase, Oracle, Mysql, OpenLDAP.
Sean Truman
www.prodigsolutions.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: Sebastian Wolfgarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:35 AM
Subject: qmail with mysql
> Hi,
>
> how do I set up qmail to run with mysql,
> where can I get information about this?
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
Paul Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> Why dose qmail itself keep accepting SMTP connections (and having to
> open a file to dump the mail to) when it must be getting an error about no
> more open handles available???
qmail doesn't. inetd does and can't be configured not to. This is why
djb recommends using tcpserver.
Claus
--
http://www.faerber.muc.de
This confirms what I was thinking then,
It looks as if you have missionprinting.org setup as a virtual domain,
therefore the ~alias is not the proper place to put the aliases for that
domain, as you can see its not even looked at.
I never have read the single-uid-howto, I use vpopmail; however I would
assume you would need to put aliases for the domain within the domain home
dir.
-- Tim Hunter
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thank you for the previous recommendations. However, it still is not
working... (this is crazy)
To answer you directly:
1) In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
ANSWER:
rcpthosts did have it.
locals did not have it.
Instructions provided at:
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html
specifically said not to add <company>.<org> to the locals file as it would
disturb delivery of EMAIL. I tried it, and the server would receive EMAIL
for everyone, but would not place the EMAIL in anyone's boxes.
2) Users are defined as you documented below in the assign file.
3) START/STOP QMAIL. At this point, I am rebooting the server just to be
sure...
***
More suggestions will be welcomed. Please keep me in mind!
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tom,
In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
And the next thing I can think of is where does the
email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
point to? Is it defined in /var/qmail/users/assign file?
=tom.sarrett.jr:<unix id>:UID:GID:<home-directory>:::
And then you created the cdb file using the
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu command?
Or is it an aliases that is defined in /etc/aliases
that is used by fastforward?
I am just throwing out ideas... to debug this...
And after all the changes, have you stopped and started qmail?
I have attached a PDF which helps to show the flow
through qmail (the Big Picture)...
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, after changing ownership and acces
params, it still would not work.
Therefore, this is how the .qmail-postmaster file looks now:
Filename: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: qmail
File Contents:
START OF FILE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
END OF FILE
Exact contents of the error message:
*** START OF CONTENTS ***
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 3525 invoked by uid 508); 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO sarrtport1) (158.95.210.54)
by mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "tom.sarratt.jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: TEST
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:23:35 -0500
Message-ID: <001901c016e0$4b73cea0$36d25f9e@sarrtport1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
ANOTHER TEST
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:22 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: TEST
*** END OF CONTENTS ***
Do anyone have any suggestions as to why the ALIAS support feature does not
work?
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Legant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alias Support Question
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:04:10AM -0500, tom.sarratt.jr wrote:
>
[snip...]
> Rights to the .qmail-postmaster file:
>
> access params: 0664
> owner: alias
> group: qmail
[snip...]
According to INSTALL.alias, you should create the ~alias/.qmail-XXX
files by touching them. Presumably you *wouldn't* be logged in as alias,
so the owner wouldn't be alias. Maybe that doesn't matter, but upon
inspection, I find all my ~alias/.qmail-XXX files are owned by
root:qmail.
Also, and more importantly, the dot-qmail man page says:
If .qmail is world-writable or group-writable, qmail-local
stops and indicates a temporary failure.
Your permissions are group writable. chmod 644 .qmail-postmaster and see
if the delivery works.
Tim
--
Tim Legant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, I am using Virtual Domains.
Regards,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tom,
Are you using virutaldomains?
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thank you for the previous recommendations. However, it still is not
working... (this is crazy)
To answer you directly:
1) In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
ANSWER:
rcpthosts did have it.
locals did not have it.
Instructions provided at:
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html
specifically said not to add <company>.<org> to the locals file as it would
disturb delivery of EMAIL. I tried it, and the server would receive EMAIL
for everyone, but would not place the EMAIL in anyone's boxes.
2) Users are defined as you documented below in the assign file.
3) START/STOP QMAIL. At this point, I am rebooting the server just to be
sure...
***
More suggestions will be welcomed. Please keep me in mind!
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tom,
In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
And the next thing I can think of is where does the
email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
point to? Is it defined in /var/qmail/users/assign file?
=tom.sarrett.jr:<unix id>:UID:GID:<home-directory>:::
And then you created the cdb file using the
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu command?
Or is it an aliases that is defined in /etc/aliases
that is used by fastforward?
I am just throwing out ideas... to debug this...
And after all the changes, have you stopped and started qmail?
I have attached a PDF which helps to show the flow
through qmail (the Big Picture)...
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, after changing ownership and acces
params, it still would not work.
Therefore, this is how the .qmail-postmaster file looks now:
Filename: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: qmail
File Contents:
START OF FILE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
END OF FILE
Exact contents of the error message:
*** START OF CONTENTS ***
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 3525 invoked by uid 508); 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO sarrtport1) (158.95.210.54)
by mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "tom.sarratt.jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: TEST
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:23:35 -0500
Message-ID: <001901c016e0$4b73cea0$36d25f9e@sarrtport1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
ANOTHER TEST
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:22 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: TEST
*** END OF CONTENTS ***
Do anyone have any suggestions as to why the ALIAS support feature does not
work?
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Legant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alias Support Question
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:04:10AM -0500, tom.sarratt.jr wrote:
>
[snip...]
> Rights to the .qmail-postmaster file:
>
> access params: 0664
> owner: alias
> group: qmail
[snip...]
According to INSTALL.alias, you should create the ~alias/.qmail-XXX
files by touching them. Presumably you *wouldn't* be logged in as alias,
so the owner wouldn't be alias. Maybe that doesn't matter, but upon
inspection, I find all my ~alias/.qmail-XXX files are owned by
root:qmail.
Also, and more importantly, the dot-qmail man page says:
If .qmail is world-writable or group-writable, qmail-local
stops and indicates a temporary failure.
Your permissions are group writable. chmod 644 .qmail-postmaster and see
if the delivery works.
Tim
--
Tim Legant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Earlier, you asked me for the data from the logfiles showing the event of
>sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>After some study, I found this information. Here it is:
>
><from file /var/log/message>
>
>*** BEGINNING OF TRANSACTION ***
>
>Sep 5 04:01:36 mpmail smtpd: 968122896.088214 tcpserver: status: 1/32
>Sep 5 04:01:36 mpmail smtpd: 968122896.089696 tcpserver: pid 3755 from
>158.95.210.54
>Sep 5 04:01:36 mpmail smtpd: 968122896.094373 tcpserver: ok 3755
>mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org:158.95.210.7:25 :158.95.210.54::1069
>Sep 5 04:01:36 mpmail smtpd: 968122896.143675 tcpserver: end 3755 status 0
>Sep 5 04:01:36 mpmail smtpd: 968122896.143814 tcpserver: status: 0/32
>
>*** END OF TRANSACTION ***
>
>Is this what you asked for?
No, this is tcpserver logs of SMTP connections. I need to see the
qmail-send logs.
-Dave
Ok. Now it seems that we might have something here.
I kinda suspected that we are not even reading the files in the alias
directory because everything else is working just as it is supposed to.
I take it from this EMAIL that I need to look into VPOPMAIL. Where do I
read up about this? Is this something that I should consider using to
resolve the alias problem?
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
This confirms what I was thinking then,
It looks as if you have missionprinting.org setup as a virtual domain,
therefore the ~alias is not the proper place to put the aliases for that
domain, as you can see its not even looked at.
I never have read the single-uid-howto, I use vpopmail; however I would
assume you would need to put aliases for the domain within the domain home
dir.
-- Tim Hunter
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thank you for the previous recommendations. However, it still is not
working... (this is crazy)
To answer you directly:
1) In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
ANSWER:
rcpthosts did have it.
locals did not have it.
Instructions provided at:
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html
specifically said not to add <company>.<org> to the locals file as it would
disturb delivery of EMAIL. I tried it, and the server would receive EMAIL
for everyone, but would not place the EMAIL in anyone's boxes.
2) Users are defined as you documented below in the assign file.
3) START/STOP QMAIL. At this point, I am rebooting the server just to be
sure...
***
More suggestions will be welcomed. Please keep me in mind!
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tom,
In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
And the next thing I can think of is where does the
email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
point to? Is it defined in /var/qmail/users/assign file?
=tom.sarrett.jr:<unix id>:UID:GID:<home-directory>:::
And then you created the cdb file using the
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu command?
Or is it an aliases that is defined in /etc/aliases
that is used by fastforward?
I am just throwing out ideas... to debug this...
And after all the changes, have you stopped and started qmail?
I have attached a PDF which helps to show the flow
through qmail (the Big Picture)...
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, after changing ownership and acces
params, it still would not work.
Therefore, this is how the .qmail-postmaster file looks now:
Filename: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: qmail
File Contents:
START OF FILE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
END OF FILE
Exact contents of the error message:
*** START OF CONTENTS ***
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 3525 invoked by uid 508); 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO sarrtport1) (158.95.210.54)
by mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "tom.sarratt.jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: TEST
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:23:35 -0500
Message-ID: <001901c016e0$4b73cea0$36d25f9e@sarrtport1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
ANOTHER TEST
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:22 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: TEST
*** END OF CONTENTS ***
Do anyone have any suggestions as to why the ALIAS support feature does not
work?
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Legant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alias Support Question
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:04:10AM -0500, tom.sarratt.jr wrote:
>
[snip...]
> Rights to the .qmail-postmaster file:
>
> access params: 0664
> owner: alias
> group: qmail
[snip...]
According to INSTALL.alias, you should create the ~alias/.qmail-XXX
files by touching them. Presumably you *wouldn't* be logged in as alias,
so the owner wouldn't be alias. Maybe that doesn't matter, but upon
inspection, I find all my ~alias/.qmail-XXX files are owned by
root:qmail.
Also, and more importantly, the dot-qmail man page says:
If .qmail is world-writable or group-writable, qmail-local
stops and indicates a temporary failure.
Your permissions are group writable. chmod 644 .qmail-postmaster and see
if the delivery works.
Tim
--
Tim Legant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You don't need vpopmail (http://www.vpopmail.cx) but its really nice to help
manage virtual domains.
You can also get a web based admin and webmail and IMAP from the same people
(http://www.inter7.com)
You probably just have to do a bit more reading on virtual domains, many
sites were just recently mentioned on the list.
-- Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Sarratt Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Ok. Now it seems that we might have something here.
I kinda suspected that we are not even reading the files in the alias
directory because everything else is working just as it is supposed to.
I take it from this EMAIL that I need to look into VPOPMAIL. Where do I
read up about this? Is this something that I should consider using to
resolve the alias problem?
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
This confirms what I was thinking then,
It looks as if you have missionprinting.org setup as a virtual domain,
therefore the ~alias is not the proper place to put the aliases for that
domain, as you can see its not even looked at.
I never have read the single-uid-howto, I use vpopmail; however I would
assume you would need to put aliases for the domain within the domain home
dir.
-- Tim Hunter
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thank you for the previous recommendations. However, it still is not
working... (this is crazy)
To answer you directly:
1) In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
ANSWER:
rcpthosts did have it.
locals did not have it.
Instructions provided at:
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html
specifically said not to add <company>.<org> to the locals file as it would
disturb delivery of EMAIL. I tried it, and the server would receive EMAIL
for everyone, but would not place the EMAIL in anyone's boxes.
2) Users are defined as you documented below in the assign file.
3) START/STOP QMAIL. At this point, I am rebooting the server just to be
sure...
***
More suggestions will be welcomed. Please keep me in mind!
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tom,
In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
And the next thing I can think of is where does the
email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
point to? Is it defined in /var/qmail/users/assign file?
=tom.sarrett.jr:<unix id>:UID:GID:<home-directory>:::
And then you created the cdb file using the
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu command?
Or is it an aliases that is defined in /etc/aliases
that is used by fastforward?
I am just throwing out ideas... to debug this...
And after all the changes, have you stopped and started qmail?
I have attached a PDF which helps to show the flow
through qmail (the Big Picture)...
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, after changing ownership and acces
params, it still would not work.
Therefore, this is how the .qmail-postmaster file looks now:
Filename: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: qmail
File Contents:
START OF FILE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
END OF FILE
Exact contents of the error message:
*** START OF CONTENTS ***
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 3525 invoked by uid 508); 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO sarrtport1) (158.95.210.54)
by mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "tom.sarratt.jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: TEST
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:23:35 -0500
Message-ID: <001901c016e0$4b73cea0$36d25f9e@sarrtport1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
ANOTHER TEST
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:22 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: TEST
*** END OF CONTENTS ***
Do anyone have any suggestions as to why the ALIAS support feature does not
work?
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Legant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alias Support Question
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:04:10AM -0500, tom.sarratt.jr wrote:
>
[snip...]
> Rights to the .qmail-postmaster file:
>
> access params: 0664
> owner: alias
> group: qmail
[snip...]
According to INSTALL.alias, you should create the ~alias/.qmail-XXX
files by touching them. Presumably you *wouldn't* be logged in as alias,
so the owner wouldn't be alias. Maybe that doesn't matter, but upon
inspection, I find all my ~alias/.qmail-XXX files are owned by
root:qmail.
Also, and more importantly, the dot-qmail man page says:
If .qmail is world-writable or group-writable, qmail-local
stops and indicates a temporary failure.
Your permissions are group writable. chmod 644 .qmail-postmaster and see
if the delivery works.
Tim
--
Tim Legant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim,
My virtualdomains file contains the following:
missionprinting.org:missionprinting-org
Other information about the file:
Filename: /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: root
***
Its interesting, because below, you said:
misssionprinting.org:<some-username>
QUESTION:
What is <some-username>
***
This may be where I am hitting my head. Please let me know.
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Hmmm....
Then you have opened up a whole nother can of worms...
In the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains file you should
have:
misssionprinting.org:<some-username>
I suggest that you go out and buy:
Running qmail
Author: Richard Blum
ISBN: 0-672-31945-4
Printed: August 2000
Publisher: SAMS Publishing
Or look at installing vpopmail package to manage virtual domains
properly...
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Yes, I am using Virtual Domains.
Regards,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tom,
Are you using virutaldomains?
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thank you for the previous recommendations. However, it still is not
working... (this is crazy)
To answer you directly:
1) In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
ANSWER:
rcpthosts did have it.
locals did not have it.
Instructions provided at:
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html
specifically said not to add <company>.<org> to the locals file as it would
disturb delivery of EMAIL. I tried it, and the server would receive EMAIL
for everyone, but would not place the EMAIL in anyone's boxes.
2) Users are defined as you documented below in the assign file.
3) START/STOP QMAIL. At this point, I am rebooting the server just to be
sure...
***
More suggestions will be welcomed. Please keep me in mind!
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tom,
In /var/qmail/control does rcpthosts and locals have:
missionprinting.org
in them?
And the next thing I can think of is where does the
email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
point to? Is it defined in /var/qmail/users/assign file?
=tom.sarrett.jr:<unix id>:UID:GID:<home-directory>:::
And then you created the cdb file using the
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu command?
Or is it an aliases that is defined in /etc/aliases
that is used by fastforward?
I am just throwing out ideas... to debug this...
And after all the changes, have you stopped and started qmail?
I have attached a PDF which helps to show the flow
through qmail (the Big Picture)...
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
Tim,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, after changing ownership and acces
params, it still would not work.
Therefore, this is how the .qmail-postmaster file looks now:
Filename: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster
access params: 0644
owner: root
group: qmail
File Contents:
START OF FILE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
END OF FILE
Exact contents of the error message:
*** START OF CONTENTS ***
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 3525 invoked by uid 508); 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO sarrtport1) (158.95.210.54)
by mpmail.inside.missionprinting.org with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 02:24:40 -0000
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "tom.sarratt.jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: TEST
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:23:35 -0500
Message-ID: <001901c016e0$4b73cea0$36d25f9e@sarrtport1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
ANOTHER TEST
-----Original Message-----
From: tom.sarratt.jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:22 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: TEST
*** END OF CONTENTS ***
Do anyone have any suggestions as to why the ALIAS support feature does not
work?
Thanks!
Tom Sarratt
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Legant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alias Support Question
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:04:10AM -0500, tom.sarratt.jr wrote:
>
[snip...]
> Rights to the .qmail-postmaster file:
>
> access params: 0664
> owner: alias
> group: qmail
[snip...]
According to INSTALL.alias, you should create the ~alias/.qmail-XXX
files by touching them. Presumably you *wouldn't* be logged in as alias,
so the owner wouldn't be alias. Maybe that doesn't matter, but upon
inspection, I find all my ~alias/.qmail-XXX files are owned by
root:qmail.
Also, and more importantly, the dot-qmail man page says:
If .qmail is world-writable or group-writable, qmail-local
stops and indicates a temporary failure.
Your permissions are group writable. chmod 644 .qmail-postmaster and see
if the delivery works.
Tim
--
Tim Legant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Tom Sarratt Jr." wrote:
>
> Ok. Now it seems that we might have something here.
>
> I kinda suspected that we are not even reading the files in the alias
> directory because everything else is working just as it is supposed to.
>
> I take it from this EMAIL that I need to look into VPOPMAIL. Where do I
> read up about this? Is this something that I should consider using to
> resolve the alias problem?
Here you go http://www.inter7.com/vchkpw/
--
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Jaun/Tim:
I think this is where the problem is. The document that I configured the
virtual domain from, as well as single user ID support
(http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html) said
nothing about what this identifier was, or how it was supposed to be used.
So, to answer questions:
1) Well what does missionprinting-org represent on your system?
It does not represent anything. I did not set anything up anywhere to
correspond to this value.
2) Is it a defined user in your /etc/passwd file?
NO. It is not.
***
Per the above referenced document, I have configured a individual user ID in
the /etc/passwd file to support the single user ID feature. The user is
called pop3ctrl. So, how should I do this? Should I proceed as follows:
1) In /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
Change from:
missionprinting.org:missionprinting-org
Change to:
missionprinting.org:pop3ctrl
2) In /var/qmail/users/assign
Change entries from:
=missionprinting-org-tom.sarratt.jr:pop3ctrl:508:503:/popboxes/mprnt/sarrt2:
::
Change entries to:
=pop3ctrl-tom.sarratt.jr:pop3ctrl:508:503:/popboxes/mprnt/sarrt2:::
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Is this the right idea? Is this the only alterations I should have to make
to get this ball rolling?
Please review and comment.
Regards,
Tom Sarratt
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From: Timothy Lorenc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 6:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Alias Support Question
By <some-username> I mean an entry in /etc/passwd
or in /var/qmail/users/assign...
Well what does missionprinting-org represent on your
system? is it a defined user in your /etc/passwd file?
<snip>
Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i have installed ucspi-tcp and daemontools and my /etc/tcp.smtp
>file looks like this:
>
>127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
>63.78.138.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
>64.113.144.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
>10.1.1.:allow, RELAYCLIENT=""
>192.168.1.:allow, RELAYCLIENT=""
Lose the spaces in the last two lines.
-Dave
Hi, thats have i try too. I've set the path and type from the shell
command line qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail, but i get always
the same error. Normally is the next step "brk(0)" on Linux.
Thanks for the help
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Anyone ever used DJBs rblsmtp daemon to prevent spam?
Could someone tell me where to insert rblsmtpd in my ../supervise/run
script.
The docs at cr.yp.to are a bit thin, at least for me ;-)
my current run script looks like the following:
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -R -l mydomain -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u
$QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
Thanx
Manuel
try:
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -R -l mydomain -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u \
$QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/rblsmtpd \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
and you should be set.
-steve
On 09/05/00 @ 03:26PM, Manuel Gisbert wrote:
> Anyone ever used DJBs rblsmtp daemon to prevent spam?
> Could someone tell me where to insert rblsmtpd in my ../supervise/run
> script.
> The docs at cr.yp.to are a bit thin, at least for me ;-)
>
> my current run script looks like the following:
>
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000
>
> Thanx
> Manuel
>
Manuel,
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Manuel Gisbert wrote:
> Anyone ever used DJBs rblsmtp daemon to prevent spam?
> Could someone tell me where to insert rblsmtpd in my ../supervise/run
> script.
> The docs at cr.yp.to are a bit thin, at least for me ;-)
>
> my current run script looks like the following:
>
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -R -l mydomain -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u
> $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
You must insert rblsmtpd call just before qmail-smtpd. See:
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -R -l mydomain -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u \
$QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /path/to/rblsmtpd \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
Antonio Dias
Petre Rodan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Did anyone tryed a SSL (TLS) and qmail combination so far? If so please
>give me some pointers.
Yes, I've done that. There's a patch on www.qmail.org that implements
STARTTLS, or you can run qmail-smtpd under stunnel or some other SSL
wrapper.
>I've found something at http://opensource.3gi.com/sendmail-tls/ but I'm
>not sure how to make it work with qmail. By default (used with sendmail)
>it requires this line in inetd.conf:
qmail and sendmail are too different to simple plug qmail into a
sendmail solution.
>smtps stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/sendmail-tls
>sendmail-tls -l ssl3 -u nobody -p /etc/smtps.pem -- /usr/sbin/sendmail
>-bs -C/etc/sendmail.relay.cf
You would want to start qmail-smtpd here, not qmail-sent.
-Dave
I think he's asking more of a way to supply two different gateways on his
linux box.
I have never messed with this, however, your idea is good. You can ping
your gateway and if x number of packets are dropped, then you just rerun
the route command and change the gateway/interface.
fping should do what you want.
On 5 Sep 2000, Chris K. Young wrote:
| Quoted from Shane Wise:
| > I have 2 dsl connections to the internet with seperate providers. As it
| > stands know if the one with the default route dies I am sunk unless I am
| > here to change.
|
| Is there a way to automatically tell when one of the routes will fall
| over? If so, just have a script automatically rewrite ``smtproutes''
| when that happens.
|
| ---Chris K.
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Shane Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 5 September 2000 at 01:43:35
-0500
> Kinda off topic, but with the intelligent people in this group hopefully I
> can get an answer.
>
> Since qmail doesn't support fallback smtp hosts, does anyone know how to
> setup linux to go out a different way...let me explain.
>
> I have 2 dsl connections to the internet with seperate providers. As it
> stands know if the one with the default route dies I am sunk unless I am
> here to change. I would like to have 2 default routes and have it use one
> as the primary and the other as the secondary default route. I have tried
> many different things but cannot get it to work. I have tried putting both
> in as default and one having a slightly higher metric and pulled the plug on
> the main on, but nothing goes out until I plug it back in.
>
> Any ideas???
I'm not completely sure which part of the problem you're loooking for
help with. What you describe sounds like a routing problem more than
anything else. With 2 dsl connections, you need to be running a real
router somewhere between those connections and your systems that knows
how to see when one of the routes goes away.
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:32:01PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> Shane Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 5 September 2000 at 01:43:35
>-0500
> > Kinda off topic, but with the intelligent people in this group hopefully I
> > can get an answer.
> >
> > Since qmail doesn't support fallback smtp hosts, does anyone know how to
> > setup linux to go out a different way...let me explain.
Wut? qmail supports fallback smtp hosts.
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> Since qmail doesn't support fallback smtp hosts, does anyone know how to
> setup linux to go out a different way...let me explain.
>
> I have 2 dsl connections to the internet with seperate providers. As it
> stands know if the one with the default route dies I am sunk unless I am
> here to change. I would like to have 2 default routes and have it use one
> as the primary and the other as the secondary default route. I have tried
> many different things but cannot get it to work. I have tried putting both
> in as default and one having a slightly higher metric and pulled the plug on
> the main on, but nothing goes out until I plug it back in.
>
> Any ideas???
While I'm not positive, I don't think this is possible without significant
investment of time. The only way to do this, I think, is with BGP or some
other dynamic routing protocol. You might check into the iproute2 stuff
(search on freshmeat.net for iproute2 to find the HOWTO), but I think even
that is not going to accomplish what you want.
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Hi All,
I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server and open relay. I
looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
:allow
I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server and open relay. I
> looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
>
> 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> :allow
>
> I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
wrong. The relayclient variable isn't set in it. What do you
have in /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts?
Vince.
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:55AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server and open relay I
> looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
>
> 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> :allow
>
> I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
No, that just tells tcpserver whether to accept or reject the
connection completely. What does /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts say?
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Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:55AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server
> and open relay I
> > looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
> >
> > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > :allow
> >
> > I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
>
> No, that just tells tcpserver whether to accept or reject the
> connection completely. What does /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts say?
>
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:55AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server and open relay. I
> looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
>
> 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
Why the . (dot) after a complete IP adress? Could that be messing things up?
Also, what does control/percenthack say?
-Johan
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"Andy Meuse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server and open relay. I
>looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
>
>172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
>4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
>207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
>:allow
>
>I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
You would imagine incorrectly, then. :-) That last line just says that
your SMTP service is open to the public--which is SOP for SMTP
servers.
You must have some other problem, like a ~alias/.qmail-default that
reroutes otherwise undeliverable mail to another host that implements
% or ! addressing.
The message from ORBS should contain the offending message, which
should show the problem.
-Dave
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
Put it back. Without an rcpthosts file, you are an open relay.
Greetz, Peter.
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
> Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
Put it back. Any of the IP addresses in tcp.smtp will bypass it if
the RELAYCLIENT variable is set.
Vince.
>
> > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:55AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > > I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server
> > and open relay I
> > > looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
> > >
> > > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > :allow
> > >
> > > I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
> >
> > No, that just tells tcpserver whether to accept or reject the
> > connection completely. What does /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts say?
> >
>
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
>
There's your answer. You opened you relay to all domains when you did that.
RC
> > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:55AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > > I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server
> > and open relay I
> > > looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
> > >
> > > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > :allow
> > >
> > > I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
> >
> > No, that just tells tcpserver whether to accept or reject the
> > connection completely. What does /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts say?
> >
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
# Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
there you go.
If you remove the rcpthosts file qmail relays mail for any domain
#
# > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:55AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
# > > I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server
# > and open relay I
# > > looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
# > >
# > > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
# > > 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
# > > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
# > > :allow
# > >
# > > I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
# >
# > No, that just tells tcpserver whether to accept or reject the
# > connection completely. What does /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts say?
# >
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I put the rcpthosts back and all mail (local and remote) was returned
undeliverable. However, I had also removed the :allow from my tcp.smtp so I
don't know if that is the problem.
Guts of the mail I got from ORBS...
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 25 23:16:22 2000
Received: from qmail.burzone.com (IDENT:qmailr@[4.17.165.135])
by mail2.manawatu.net.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA07697
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:16:17 +1200
X-Remote-IP: 4.17.165.135
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:16:17 +1200
Received: (qmail 21807 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2000 11:15:58 -0000
Received: from relaytest.orbs.vuurwerk.nl (194.178.232.55)
by 4.17.165.138 with SMTP; 25 Aug 2000 11:15:58 -0000
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Token: kpnlfikqassskfvs
X-Envelope-Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Envelope-Recipient: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ORBS Relay Test - 4.17.165.135
> > > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:55AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > > > I just recieved an email from ORBS branding my mail server
> > > and open relay I
> > > > looked in my tcp.smtp and I think I know why.
> > > >
> > > > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > > 4.17.165.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > > :allow
> > > >
> > > > I would imagine it's that allow on the last line right?
> > >
> > > No, that just tells tcpserver whether to accept or reject the
> > > connection completely. What does /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts say?
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:08:15AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
>
> I put the rcpthosts back and all mail (local and remote) was returned
> undeliverable. However, I had also removed the :allow from my tcp.smtp so I
> don't know if that is the problem.
Are the domains you *do* want to receive mail for in rcpthosts now?
Greetz, Peter.
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:42:45PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
> Put it back. Without an rcpthosts file, you are an open relay.
That's always surprised me. I would have assumed that qmail would
default to control/me if rcpthosts is empty. Any reason why it doesn't?
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:08:15AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> I put the rcpthosts back and all mail (local and remote) was returned
> undeliverable. However, I had also removed the :allow from my tcp.smtp so I
> don't know if that is the problem.
It's not the problem.
What are the contents of rcpthosts? What is the reason that the mail was
returned as undeliverable? (Did it not occur to you to provide this information
in the first place?)
Chris
Andy Meuse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I put the rcpthosts back and all mail (local and remote) was returned
> undeliverable. However, I had also removed the :allow from my tcp.smtp so I
> don't know if that is the problem.
You need the :allow to let other servers on the net connect to your machine
to deliver mail to you.
rcpthosts should exist and contain domains for which you will accept mail --
typically the contents of the files 'locals' plus virtualdomains and perhaps
a few others (backup MX, etc).
Charles
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> I put the rcpthosts back and all mail (local and remote) was returned
> undeliverable. However, I had also removed the :allow from my tcp.smtp so
I
> don't know if that is the problem.
The lack of a rcpthosts file was *definitely* the problem. When you don't
have this file, qmail's default behavior is to accept and relay email for
the entire Internet.
Having an ":allow" line in your tcp.smtp file won't affect your server's
behavior one way or the other. This line tells tcpserver to accept
connections from any remote host (besides those mentioned elsewhere in the
tcp.smtp file), but don't modify any environment variables during the
session (such as RELAYCLIENT). This is tcpserver's default behavior anyway,
so the only reason to have this line is for the sake of readability. Note
that allowing a host to make a connection is not the same thing as allowing
that host to use your server as a relay.
So, the short answer is, now that you have a rcpthosts file again, ORBS will
stop blacklisting you.
---Kris Kelley
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Johan Almqvist wrote:
| On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:42:45PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
| > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
| > > Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
| > Put it back. Without an rcpthosts file, you are an open relay.
|
| That's always surprised me. I would have assumed that qmail would
| default to control/me if rcpthosts is empty. Any reason why it doesn't?
I think this has been requested by some list users in the past, but it's
not that big of a deal. All it does is secure someone from blowing their
foot off on accident. Of course, with the behavior as default, them being
put on antispam lists might be a worse "long term" effect, as it's hard to
get off some of the lists to a newbie.
Oh well, i guess it's punishment for not reading the docs properly....
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:08:15AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> I put the rcpthosts back and all mail (local and remote) was returned
> undeliverable. However, I had also removed the :allow from my tcp.smtp so I
> don't know if that is the problem.
Ack! You are mighty confused.
The 'allow' and 'deny' statements specify whether a tcp connection
from a given IP address will be allowed or denied, not whether any
messages passed over the connection will be accepted for delivery.
rcpthosts is a list of domains for which your mailer will accept mail.
You need to list the domains for which that machine should accept email.
Take a look at the relaying doccumentation at http://www.qmail.org/, if
you need to setup selective relaying (i.e. allowing certain people -
your users - to use your machine to send their email)
Regards,
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Because you more often want a mail server to relay your mail than not to
relay your mail.
Why bother setting up rcpthosts if your server is firewalled off from the
internet, being an internal mail handler/relay anyway?
David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Almqvist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:51 AM
> To: Peter van Dijk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ORBS doesn't like me :(
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:42:45PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > > Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
> > Put it back. Without an rcpthosts file, you are an open relay.
>
> That's always surprised me. I would have assumed that qmail would
> default to control/me if rcpthosts is empty. Any reason why
> it doesn't?
>
> -Johan
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Johan Almqvist wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:42:45PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > > Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
> > Put it back. Without an rcpthosts file, you are an open relay.
>
An empty rcpthosts != no rcpthosts at all.
empty means "i don't take mail for any domain". No files mean "i don't
limit any domain". And rcpthosts does not assume me if empty. man 8
qmail-smtpd for more info.
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I created a rcpthosts file populated with my domain. Now the error I'm
recieving after sending remote mail is ..
"No transport provider was available for delivery to this recipient."
Local mail is unaffected.
thx for all the replies,
-Andy
Here is a recap of my situation. ORBS says I'm an open relay. I had no
rcpthosts file so there you go. When I create a rcpthosts file local users
can't send remote mail.
> You need the :allow to let other servers on the net connect
> to your machine
> to deliver mail to you.
I thought I read that the :allow is redundant since the default is to allow
any connection?
> rcpthosts should exist and contain domains for which you will
> accept mail --
> typically the contents of the files 'locals' plus
> virtualdomains and perhaps
> a few others (backup MX, etc).
>
> Charles
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:44:22AM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> Why bother setting up rcpthosts if your server is firewalled off from the
> internet, being an internal mail handler/relay anyway?
There are cases where people intentionally want to create open relays,
and there should be a mechanism to allow that.
But AFAIC the current method makes it too easy to shoot oneself in
the foot. Too often people take the premise that "rcpthosts lists the
domains to accept mail for" (to paraphrase) and use that to make the
conclusion that "no rcpthosts means accepting mail for no domains".
While it is incorrect, it's not an entirely off-the-wall thought
progression.
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
| Here is a recap of my situation. ORBS says I'm an open relay. I had no
| rcpthosts file so there you go. When I create a rcpthosts file local users
| can't send remote mail.
You need to read LWQ, and specifically, the section on selective relaying.
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#relaying
http://www.palomine.net/qmail/relaying.html
http://www.palomine.net/qmail/selectiverelay.html
| I thought I read that the :allow is redundant since the default is to allow
| any connection?
It is redundant. It's put in there to be syntaxtically correct in case the
default behavior changes in the future.
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Andy Meuse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I created a rcpthosts file populated with my domain. Now the error I'm
> recieving after sending remote mail is ..
>
> "No transport provider was available for delivery to this recipient."
>
> Local mail is unaffected.
I'm not familiar with this error message. What was the recipient address, what
is your local domain, what is the contents of rcpthosts and locals, ...
> > You need the :allow to let other servers on the net connect to your machine
> > to deliver mail to you.
>
> I thought I read that the :allow is redundant since the default is to
> allow any connection?
Yes, my bad. It is the default. I just like being explicit in tcp rules files.
Charles
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Yep, I have the locals set up with my domain(s).
Since I have been an open relay, and then when I create a rcpthosts file it
seems SMTP rejects me, I suppose my tcprules or tcpserver or both are
configured incorrectly. Again here is the error message.
"No transport provider was available for delivery to this recipient."
I was sending local to hotmail account, and also tried other external
addresses. (Yahoo, Juno etc.)
this is my tcp.smtp file
172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
4.17.165.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
:allow
The mail server is on the 4.17.165.0 network
Users are on the 172.16.3.0 network
Here are the commands I run qmail from in rc.local
# starts Qmail basics
/bin/csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &' &
# Starts pop3 server from tcpserver
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
qmail.buyerzone.com \
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 |
/var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d &
#This modifies the qmail-queue for qmail virus scan
#QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl" export QMAILQUEUE
# Tcpserver with relaying rules found in /etc/tcp.smtp
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 50 -u503 -g502 0 smtp \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
Hmmm. Should the -c 50 be right after tcpserver?
rcpthosts & locals read...
buyerzone.com
buyerszone.com
mail.buyerzone.com
mail.buyerszone.com
qmail.buyerzone.com
qmail.buyerszone.com
Thanks again,
Andy
And yes I've read the FAQ and LWQ so much my eyes hurt. I did have problems
getting qmail to run using daemontools (RCDIR config I think) so I inserted
the startup commands into rc.local.
> Andy Meuse schrieb:
> do you have your domain in ~/control/locals too?
>
> you will need that for qmail to realize that mails for your domain
> should be delivered locally and *not* passed on elsewhere.
>
> wolfgang
>
> >
> > I created a rcpthosts file populated with my domain. Now
> the error I'm
> > recieving after sending remote mail is ..
> >
> > "No transport provider was available for delivery to this
> recipient."
> >
> > Local mail is unaffected.
> >
> > thx for all the replies,
> > -Andy
>
Johan Almqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 5 September 2000 at 17:51:11 +0200
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:42:45PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:32AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > > Hmmm. I removed my rcpthosts file.
> > Put it back. Without an rcpthosts file, you are an open relay.
>
> That's always surprised me. I would have assumed that qmail would
> default to control/me if rcpthosts is empty. Any reason why it doesn't?
So far as I remember the discussion back some time ago, no, there
isn't any particular reason. Dan just wrote it the other way.
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
> this is my tcp.smtp file
>
> 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 4.17.165.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> :allow
How are you creating tcp.smtp.cdb ?
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Vince, please don't try to telnet into my mail server anymore. :(
Sep 5 14:31:42 qmail in.telnetd[6995]: refused connect from 209.103.136.12
-Andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince Vielhaber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:34 PM
> To: Andy Meuse
> Cc: Qmail (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: ORBS doesn't like me :(
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
>
> > this is my tcp.smtp file
> >
> > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > 4.17.165.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > :allow
>
> How are you creating tcp.smtp.cdb ?
>
> Vince.
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
> Vince, please don't try to telnet into my mail server anymore. :(
I was going to try sending you mail directly to it with telnet, I
missed the 25 at the end command line and ^D out of it. Believe me,
it wasn't intentional.
Vince.
>
> Sep 5 14:31:42 qmail in.telnetd[6995]: refused connect from 209.103.136.12
>
> -Andy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vince Vielhaber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:34 PM
> > To: Andy Meuse
> > Cc: Qmail (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: ORBS doesn't like me :(
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
> >
> > > this is my tcp.smtp file
> > >
> > > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > 4.17.165.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > :allow
> >
> > How are you creating tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> >
> > Vince.
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Quoting Andy Meuse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I created a rcpthosts file populated with my domain. Now the error I'm
> recieving after sending remote mail is ..
>
> "No transport provider was available for delivery to this recipient."
Heh.. that doesn't say anything. That's an Outlookism that it spits
out when it really does not know what is going on (like all of the
time). "No transport provider .." bah!
If you could provide the actual error message that qmail-smtpd
spits out, and that reasonable mailers will show you, that certainly
would help a lot.
In any case, the problem is (almost) certainly that RELAYCLIENT is not
set for the connection, hence qmail does not allow you to relay to any
domain not in rcpthosts.
Aaron
I reconfigured tcprules and now everything is fine. I think I had edited the
tcp.smtp and it never occured to me to rerun tcprules, that or the "-c 50"
in the tcpserver command line below was effin it up.
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 4000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 50 -u503 -g502 0 smtp \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
Anyway, thanks for the pointers everyone.
-=Andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince Vielhaber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 3:20 PM
> To: Andy Meuse
> Cc: 'Qmail (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: ORBS doesn't like me :(
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
>
> > Vince, please don't try to telnet into my mail server anymore. :(
>
> I was going to try sending you mail directly to it with telnet, I
> missed the 25 at the end command line and ^D out of it. Believe me,
> it wasn't intentional.
>
> Vince.
>
> >
> > Sep 5 14:31:42 qmail in.telnetd[6995]: refused connect
> from 209.103.136.12
> >
> > -Andy
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vince Vielhaber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:34 PM
> > > To: Andy Meuse
> > > Cc: Qmail (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: ORBS doesn't like me :(
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > >
> > > > this is my tcp.smtp file
> > > >
> > > > 172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > > 4.17.165.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > > 207.244.122.53.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> > > > :allow
> > >
> > > How are you creating tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> > >
> > > Vince.
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:19:34PM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andy Meuse wrote:
>
> > Vince, please don't try to telnet into my mail server anymore. :(
>
> I was going to try sending you mail directly to it with telnet, I
> missed the 25 at the end command line and ^D out of it. Believe me,
> it wasn't intentional.
I believe you. That happens to me all the time :)
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Quoted from Peter van Dijk:
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:19:34PM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > I was going to try sending you mail directly to it with telnet, I
> > missed the 25 at the end command line and ^D out of it. Believe me,
> > it wasn't intentional.
>
> I believe you. That happens to me all the time :)
That's why you use tcpclient: it doesn't have a default port. :-)
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Adam McKenna writes:
> Without even looking at them, I can tell you the following:
>
> 1) *if* the packages comply with dist.html, they will _never_ get into
> potato.
> 2) If they don't comply with dist.html, you will not be allowed to
> distribute them.
>
> It's basically a lose/lose situation. If you want dist.html-compliant debs
> for your own use or for unofficial use, that's fine. But they will never go
> into debian, because they are in gross violation of debian's packaging
> policy, and also there are already source packages for these programs in
> debian.
I don't understand why Debian doesn't have exceptions for packages
which require cross-platform compatibility. Is the concept of a piece
of software which uses the same pathnames no matter where you
encounter it so strange? And all of the compatibility can be achieved
through symlinks, so what's the big deal? Binaries can actually be
stored in /usr/bin, control files can actually be stored in
/etc/qmail, the queue can actually be in /var/spool. All that Dan
insists on (and it's a reasonable insistance) is that anyone can sit
down at a qmail installation and say "vi /var/qmail/control/locals".
If you want to see a *real* horror, look at how qmail gets started up.
Might be by running it from /etc/rc.local. Might be from
/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail. Might be from /etc/init.d/qmail. Might be
from /etc/init.d/{qmail,smtpd,pop3}. Might be from /service/qmail.
Logs might be in /var/log/qmail. Might be in /var/log/syslog. Might
be in /var/log/maillog. Might be in /service/qmail/log/main.
All of this is stuff that Dan didn't specify from the outset. Now
imagine if vendors had been allowed to change qmail. All of qmail
would be as bad as qmail startup. I mean, seriously: do you need to
ask what operating system someone is running when they have a
virtualdomains or an alias question? No. You can say "edit this
file." You can even give them a set of commands to cut and paste.
Of course, the Debian people have a worthwile goal. It's just that
their goal, lower support costs, can be achieved in other ways. In
fact, I'd even say that their method is wrong. Nobody goes to Debian
people and asks them for MTA support (at least I'd hope not, not
unless Debian plans on reinventing *every* wheel). No, they go to the
mailing list associated with the MTA.
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Russell Nelson wrote:
> through symlinks, so what's the big deal? Binaries can actually be
> stored in /usr/bin, control files can actually be stored in
> /etc/qmail, the queue can actually be in /var/spool.
And in fact with the current qmail-src package thats exactly how it works.
Mostly. The maintainer annoyingly left out /var/qmail/bin, but that can be
(and should be) fixed.
> If you want to see a *real* horror, look at how qmail gets started up.
aye
> fact, I'd even say that their method is wrong. Nobody goes to Debian
> people and asks them for MTA support (at least I'd hope not, not
> unless Debian plans on reinventing *every* wheel).
Oh but they do. Lurk in #debian on openprojects.net sometime. But thats
ok, I mean thats partly why #debian is there.
Now what I'd really like to see is Debian move towards is the /usr/ports
mechanism which accomodates qmail distribution not unlike the qmail-src
packages only without the feeling of being a total hack.
As long as we're talking about distribution policy, does Dan have a page
somewhere that says that all his software is offered under the same
license? I mean not only does qmail get distributed as source-only in the
Debian project, but also ezmlm and the ucspi-tcp bundle. This has always
confused me as ucspi-tcp atleast doesn't have unreasonable installation
guidelines by default, why is it being distributed as source only?
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Quoted from Jamie Heilman:
> As long as we're talking about distribution policy, does Dan have a page
> somewhere that says that all his software is offered under the same
> license?
He has a page saying what you are allowed to do, legally, for any
copyrighted software, without a licence.
http://cr.yp.to/softwarelaw.html
> I mean not only does qmail get distributed as source-only in the
> Debian project, but also ezmlm and the ucspi-tcp bundle.
I'm not even sure that ezmlm and ucspi-tcp are distributable at all.
> This has always
> confused me as ucspi-tcp atleast doesn't have unreasonable installation
> guidelines by default, why is it being distributed as source only?
As far as I understand, unless a licence is given, all rights are
reserved.
I didn't know this when I started writing programs, so later on I had
to put a blanket statement on my web site saying all my programs that
were written before a certain date are public-domain. I hope it will
suffice; it'd suck to have to revise all my programs just to put in a
public-domain notice.
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Chris K. Young wrote:
> He has a page saying what you are allowed to do, legally, for any
> copyrighted software, without a licence.
> http://cr.yp.to/softwarelaw.html
yeah I knew about that one, I point people to it all the time
> I'm not even sure that ezmlm and ucspi-tcp are distributable at all.
interesting
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|
hi , all
if i use qmail-inject , how to let qmail can send email to two
or more user at the same location
with RCPT TO:, without send the email twice.
how to let qmail(qmail-remote) send email by the following
way
HELO xxx.xx.xx
instead open two connection to the same server, and send this
mail twice.
regards
chchen
|
"chchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>if i use qmail-inject , how to let qmail can send email to two or
>more user at the same location with RCPT TO:, without send the email
>twice.
>
>ex. If i want to send a email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>how to let qmail(qmail-remote) send email by the following way
>HELO xxx.xx.xx
>RCPT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>instead open two connection to the same server, and send this mail
>twice.
You can't. See:
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#multi-rcpt
-Dave
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:37:53PM +0800, chchen wrote:
> if i use qmail-inject , how to let qmail can send email to two or more user
> at the same location with RCPT TO:, without send the email twice.
You don't. qmail will always make one remote connection per recipient.
And before you say, "But this wastes bandwidth!" please research the list archives.
Chris
Hi Managers:
I'm setup my antispam rules y need help me
I tried my setup of this way:
telnet mailabuse.org
but this test give me this result:
Relay test 4
>>> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]@myserver.com>
<<< 250 ok
>>> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<<< 250 ok
>>> RSET
<<< 250 flushed
System appeared to accept a relay
Connection closed by foreign host.
Where I should change my rules?
I use the configuration of "Life With Qmail"
Thank You
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:13:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm setup my antispam rules y need help me
> I tried my setup of this way:
> telnet mailabuse.org
>
> but this test give me this result:
>
> Relay test 4
> >>> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]@myserver.com>
> <<< 250 ok
> >>> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <<< 250 ok
> >>> RSET
> <<< 250 flushed
> System appeared to accept a relay
> Connection closed by foreign host.
This is a bogus test, and you can ignore it.
Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm setup my antispam rules y need help me
> I tried my setup of this way:
> telnet mailabuse.org
As long as you haven't enabled the percenthack, your machine won't relay this
message. Read the list archives, the FAQ, and Dave Sill's excellent
Life with qmail article.
Charles
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 5 September 2000 at
10:13:27 -0500
>
> Hi Managers:
>
> I'm setup my antispam rules y need help me
> I tried my setup of this way:
> telnet mailabuse.org
>
> but this test give me this result:
>
> Relay test 4
> >>> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]@myserver.com>
> <<< 250 ok
> >>> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <<< 250 ok
> >>> RSET
> <<< 250 flushed
> System appeared to accept a relay
> Connection closed by foreign host.
>
> Where I should change my rules?
> I use the configuration of "Life With Qmail"
This is a flawed test. Qmail accepts this email, but it does *not*
relay it. At the time of receipt, qmail-smtpd does not know in detail
what local addresses are valid. Given the complexities of dot-qmail
files, including .qmail-default files, it can't reasonably know. So
it accepts anything for a domain that's in rcpthosts, and it gets
sorted out later.
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Hi,
I have a problem when I try to forward mails from my back up qmail
server to MS Exchange server. that is if there are more than one mail in
the queue that qmail try to flush out, qmail can only get one "/Remote
host say 250ok " response with all mails go through( i got all mails).
So it can only clean one mail out the queue but keep all the others and
never try redeliver till i restart qmail, it resend all remaining mails
get another 250ok ande remove another message from queue. 250ok appears
randomly not always the first message that been delivered. May someone
help me that what may cause this problem?
Thanks for your help
MinF
Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some
stuff at http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt, but I need more.
We're writing a little piece of code that's going to sit on a couple of
hundred Win2000 webservers that can talk QMTP to our qmail box for faster
delivery. Users come to our site and sign up for automatically generated
charts and other such things and the webservers generate the content for the
email and send it off using SMTP right now. We need to speed this up as
much as possible, and QMTP looks like the best way to do it since we already
have a qmail box sending most of our other subscriber mail.
We also have several QMQP servers. Would it maybe be better to make it talk
QMQP to the boxes running qmail-qmqpd?
=========================
Here's my setup below in case anyone is wondering (warning: may be confusing
without a picture):
I have one main machine that runs ezmlm and a full version of qmail, it also
runs a second copy of qmail (actually mini-qmail, we'll get to that in a
minute). qmail-qmqpc is modified on the machine to load balance between all
of my QMQP servers. I can add QMQP servers as necessary if the load gets to
high on the rest of them. The full version of qmail is running to handle
bounces, and to accept mail from webservers. Ezmlm-idx is set up to use
QMQP for delivery, so messages being sent out get distributed to multiple
QMQP servers. If the email comes in from a webserver, box running ezmlm
would try to send it off itself... I didn't want that to happen because I
want to keep the disk activity and other resources down as much as possible,
so the logical choice would be to offload all mail not destined for the
local box to the QMQP servers. Since I couldn't figure out a better way to
do it, I installed a copy of mini-qmail with qmail-smtpd listening on port
26, and my modified qmail-qmqpc. smtproutes is set up so all outgoing mail
goes to mini-qmail (on port 26) which distributes it to the QMQP servers. I
wish smtproutes would let you specify a protocol to use... :) So the way
this is set up, all outgoing mail gets sent to QMQP servers to let them
handle the queueing and sending. Main destined for the local machine is
still accepted and processed normally.
Right now, I have 2 bottlenecks... The SMTP connection that the webservers
use to send mail through it, and the SMTP connection to port 26 that the
main copy of qmail redirects outgoing mail to.
----------
Jay Austad
Network Administrator
CBS Marketwatch
612.817.1271
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://cbs.marketwatch.com
http://www.bigcharts.com
The code for serialmail comes with code to send via qmtp.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Austad, Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:35 AM
Subject: QMTP
> Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some
> stuff at http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt, but I need more.
>
> We're writing a little piece of code that's going to sit on a couple of
> hundred Win2000 webservers that can talk QMTP to our qmail box for faster
> delivery. Users come to our site and sign up for automatically generated
> charts and other such things and the webservers generate the content for
the
> email and send it off using SMTP right now. We need to speed this up as
> much as possible, and QMTP looks like the best way to do it since we
already
> have a qmail box sending most of our other subscriber mail.
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:35:08AM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
> Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some
> stuff at http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt, but I need more.
What part of that document is unclear to you, or what don't you
understand? You might want to read serialqmtp.c (in serialmail) and
qmail-qmtpd.c (in qmail)
I am glancing over qmtp.txt and it's mostly quite clear to me, except
the stuff about 'safe messages'. If none of the bytes in a safe message
can be <0a>, when the hell *do* we see a safe message?
Looking at serialqmtp, it seems to just *disregard* this problem and
pump the message into the packet. Cool, no more CRLF/LF conversions :)
If it's netstrings that confuse you, read
http://cr.yp.to/proto/netstrings.txt
Greetz, Peter
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I understand it fine. I just have to get as much info as possible for our
developers so they can code it up. Just want to make sure they don't have
to do a ton of debugging due some subtle mistake somewhere.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter van Dijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:51 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: QMTP
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:35:08AM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
> Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some
> stuff at http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt, but I need more.
What part of that document is unclear to you, or what don't you
understand? You might want to read serialqmtp.c (in serialmail) and
qmail-qmtpd.c (in qmail)
I am glancing over qmtp.txt and it's mostly quite clear to me, except
the stuff about 'safe messages'. If none of the bytes in a safe message
can be <0a>, when the hell *do* we see a safe message?
Looking at serialqmtp, it seems to just *disregard* this problem and
pump the message into the packet. Cool, no more CRLF/LF conversions :)
If it's netstrings that confuse you, read
http://cr.yp.to/proto/netstrings.txt
Greetz, Peter
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:47:38PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
> I understand it fine. I just have to get as much info as possible for our
> developers so they can code it up. Just want to make sure they don't have
> to do a ton of debugging due some subtle mistake somewhere.
QMTP is too simple to make subtle mistakes :)
Greetz, Peter
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Austad, Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> I am glancing over qmtp.txt and it's mostly quite clear to me, except
> the stuff about 'safe messages'. If none of the bytes in a safe
> message can be <0a>, when the hell *do* we see a safe message?
It's clear that djb's talking about <0a>/LF EXCEPT in line end
designators (which can either be CRLF or LF). So basically every message
that does not contain LFs that are not line feeds is "safe".
If a message is not safe, the worst that can happen is that bare LFs are
converted to CRLF. This is also true for most SMTP MTAs.
Claus
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Hello,
I have been trying to set up qmail and xinetd. No problem with the smtp part, it works perfectly... but I was unable to set up qmail-pop3d correctly. Anyone has experience with this? Is there any disadvantage to use xinetd with qmail?
Thanks in advance
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paco Gracia
Director T�cnico
Amira Sistemas
Most of the people on the list either choose two methods:
1. The lazy method, use inetd. Works fine, and most systems are already
setup for inetd.
2. The good method. Use tcpserver. tcpserver, also written by DJB is fast,
stable, and can be secured much like inetd, but with more functionality.
I dont have alot of experience with xinetd, but if you are going to do
some work into getting it to work, you might want to look at using
tcpserver instead.
tcpserver can be found at:
http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Hello,
|
| I have been trying to set up qmail and xinetd. No problem with the
| smtp part, it works perfectly... but I was unable to set up qmail-pop3d
| correctly. Anyone has experience with this? Is there any disadvantage to
| use xinetd with qmail?
|
| Thanks in advance
| --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Paco Gracia
| Director T�cnico
| Amira Sistemas
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Hi,
check my Qmail Web-page: http://www.fehcom.de/qmail_en.html
xinetd is maintained by synack: http://synack.net
Works fine anyway.
cheers.
eh.
At 18:02 5.9.2000 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
> I have been trying to set up qmail and xinetd. No prob
>lem th the
>smtp part, it works perfectly... but I was unable to set up qmail-pop3d
>correctly. Anyone has experience with this? Is there any disadvantage to
>use xinetd with qmail?
>
>
>
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I'm currently brainstorming ways that a mail server can be modified to work
only with specific email clients. Ideas like user authentication and
different port numbers are good places to start, but other popular clients
can be easily configured to accomodate these changes. One possibility I'm
looking at is to have the client send a specific text string in its HELO or
EHLO command. The server would then reject any connections that didn't have
this text string.
Is this viable? If so, how hard would it be modify qmail to work this way?
I am adept at C programming and have even coded my own SMTP server in the
past. Of course, if there's already a patch out there that does this, even
better.
I'm also open to other suggestions on how to make a server work with only
specific clients. The clients will be coded in-house, so we will have
complete control over the syntax the clients and servers use.
At this point I'm not completely convinced my company needs to tie the
servers specifically to their clients, but it's being bandied about, so I
want to make sure I have a course of action ready should they decide this is
the way to go. Thanks!
---Kris Kelley
If everything else fails, you can still get job at Microsoft!
Kris Kelley wrote:
>
> I'm currently brainstorming ways that a mail server can be modified to work
> only with specific email clients.
Ima Guru wrote:
> I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
Sure! Reconfigure your frombulator and make sure that the permissions
are correct on your flarm scripts.
HTH,
Stephen
no no no, you've got it all wrong.
He needs to have a close inspection of the quazidariarian, especially
section 6.4.A of the manual.
Surely, that will fix the problem.
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Stephen Bosch wrote:
| Ima Guru wrote:
|
| > I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
|
| Sure! Reconfigure your frombulator and make sure that the permissions
| are correct on your flarm scripts.
|
| HTH,
|
| Stephen
|
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:58:40AM -0600, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote:
>
> no no no, you've got it all wrong.
>
> He needs to have a close inspection of the quazidariarian, especially
> section 6.4.A of the manual.
>
> Surely, that will fix the problem.
And don't forget to epibrate the whole thing after that.
Greetz, Peter
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In private mail, he admitted to me that he was running version 4.03 of
libgadzooks instead of version 4.04. After updating that, he's okay now. I
don't know how he missed it, it's clearly documented at
http://10.9.8.7/~joeblow/mycoolstuff.old/gadzooks.html
Chris
> From: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:58:40 -0600 (MDT)
>
>
> no no no, you've got it all wrong.
>
> He needs to have a close inspection of the quazidariarian, especially
> section 6.4.A of the manual.
>
> Surely, that will fix the problem.
>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Stephen Bosch wrote:
>
> | Ima Guru wrote:
> |
> | > I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
> |
> | Sure! Reconfigure your frombulator and make sure that the permissions
> | are correct on your flarm scripts.
> |
> | HTH,
> |
> | Stephen
> |
>
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> 10:55am up 117 days, 16:58, 4 users, load average: 0.29, 0.24, 0.19
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Stephen Bosch wrote:
>
> Ima Guru wrote:
>
> > I have a problem with qmail. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
>
> Sure! Reconfigure your frombulator and make sure that the permissions
> are correct on your flarm scripts.
Also, don't forget to thoroughly grease your muffler bearings and
tighten your floating magnetronic dialator...
Eric
Has anyone else noticed that the list seems to be performing sluggishly
today?
Normally i send a message to the list and it comes back within 10 seconds
(if that's believable, given the number of subscribers)
Today it seems to be taking upwards of the 2-5 minute range.
I know this is _more_ then acceptable, and is still quicker then most
lists, however, this list is usually faster?
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I do not know how the LWQ initscripts work, but probably they just
try to terminate the qmail processes. If you have a lot of
qmail-remotes running, it may take a while till all stop.
You may insert a timeout in the initscripts: after, say, 120s sigkill
the qmail processes. This way, you may get duplicate messages sent
out, but you will not loose mail.
Not a great solution, but if your shutdown is urgent, better than nothing.
Mate
> Marco wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I tried the diagnostic utility www.qmail.org/qmail-lint-0.55 and I
> received this message:
>
> Warning: users/assign checking not implemented
>
> The file contains the following:
>
>
>+{domain.name}-:{domain.name}:{vpopmailUID}:{vpopmailGID}:/home/vpopmail/domains/{domain.name}:-::
> .
This looks correct. vadddomain will create a line exactly like the
above.
>
> The question is: what is the syntax for this file.
You can find the syntax in the qmail-users man page.
> and what is its role
> in the message delivering to a user created with qmailadmin?
qmailadmin only allows you to add users to a virtual domain
created by vpopmail. In this case, only one line is required
in the assign file per domain. The domains should match the
domains listed in /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
Qmail will read the /var/qmail/user/cdb file to determine what
uid/gid and directory to have qmail-local deliver a message to.
vpopmail also supports adding virtual users for accepting email
being sent to domains in your /var/qmail/control/locals file.
In this case, each new user would have two lines in the
/var/qmail/users/assign file. And qmailadmin can not be used
to admin these users.
Try sending email using qmail-inject and watching your qmail
log files.
Ken Jones
> It's not functioning properly.
> Thank you
> Marco
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > The file contains the following:
> >
> >
+{domain.name}-:{domain.name}:{vpopmailUID}:{vpopmailGID}:/home/vpopmail/dom
ains/{domain.name}:-::
> > .
> This looks correct. vadddomain will create a line exactly like the
> above.
>
Hi Ken,
Thank you for your explanation on how this file works (it wasn't so clear to
me before).
I checked the syntax on man pages, and it seems OK to me, either.
Also, qmail is working fine now with virtual domains, but I had to add them
manually in /control/defaulthost and
/control/defaultdomain. I thought the entire procedure was made by
qmailadmin.
Well, if I'm saying something awful, please correct me. Any suggestion is
welcomed.
Thank you
Marco
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wolfgang zeikat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 5 September 2000 at 10:36:38 +0200
> Also sprach David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04.09.2000:
>
> >If a spammer sent that message with an envelope recipient of
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED], it would be accepted because newmediaone.net is in
> >rcpthosts.
>
> does that mean: the message is accepted *and* the mails to the Cc: header
> recipients (which are not in rcpthosts) are *also* delivered? that was the
> original question.
No; as I said, the headers in the message have *no* impact on the
process. They're just data.
> >If the spammer sent a second envelope recipient of [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >and aol.com is NOT in your rcpthosts, he'd get an error on that
> >recipient (unless RELAYCLIENT had been set through tcpserver when this
> >connection was accepted).
>
> does a Cc: header create a second envenlope recipient? (so far i thought
> it doesnt)
That's a question about how the sending MTA works; and is thus
irrelevant.
By some process, which we don't care about, the sending MTA decides
what envelope recipients there will be for a message. It then
connects to our system and starts presenting those recipients. It
presents them one at a time. We can accept some and reject others.
We accept only those whose FQDN part is in rcpthosts (unless the
RELAYCLIENT variable is set enablling relaying for this connection, in
which case we accept *anything*). After presenting the recipients,
the message data is transmitted, and we queue the result, and
eventually qmail-send puts lspawn and/or rspawn to work on it.
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David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whenever I get messages from qmail (MAILER-DAEMON) the Date: field shows
time in GMT (-0000). However, we are in the North American Central time
zone. Our system is set with the correct time zone (well, at least date
says CDT). Is there any way to tell qmail to use CDT when composing bounce
messages, etc?
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:32:36PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> Whenever I get messages from qmail (MAILER-DAEMON) the Date: field shows
> time in GMT (-0000). However, we are in the North American Central time
> zone. Our system is set with the correct time zone (well, at least date
> says CDT). Is there any way to tell qmail to use CDT when composing bounce
> messages, etc?
No. And, trust me, you don't want it to. Sorting out what's wrong when
headers are from 5 different timezones is a pain.
Greetz, Peter
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:32:36PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> Whenever I get messages from qmail (MAILER-DAEMON) the Date: field shows
> time in GMT (-0000). However, we are in the North American Central time
> zone. Our system is set with the correct time zone (well, at least date
> says CDT). Is there any way to tell qmail to use CDT when composing bounce
> messages, etc?
No.
Look at http://qmail.faqts.com/
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Hi,
I'm just curious if daemontools works under linux (my question
may occur to you stupid but I'd like to have certainty because
I read that it is only for unix). And BTW what do I gain (or rather
my linux) from having daemontools installed on my system?
Thanks 4 help,
qba
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:13:14PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious if daemontools works under linux (my question
> may occur to you stupid but I'd like to have certainty because
> I read that it is only for unix). And BTW what do I gain (or rather
> my linux) from having daemontools installed on my system?
Yes, daemontools work under linux.
Greetz, Peter
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Is there any way to track messages or to link the log entries from
qmail-smtpd and qmail-send so that I may map the network connections and
where the mail is being sent, i.e. much the same way that my sendmail logs
used to look.
*/log/run files look like this...
[chains@franklin /]$ cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill \
/usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/
[chains@franklin /]$ cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log/run
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill \
/usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/
Thanks,
--Larry
Is there an easy way to convert the archives?
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John McCoy, Jr
Systems Administrator
Central Systems, Mills College
510-430-3321
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Hi there!
I have a dial-up ppp connection from a single computer to my ISP and use a
free SMTP- and POP3-server to fetch and send email for ALL local users.
Configuration of qmail is essentially as described in the mailqueue-howto
and everything works fine. (maildir for outgoing mail is
/var/qmail/alias/pppout, owned by user alias).
However it'd be nice to have qmail send the mail directly to the mail
server IF and only if a connection is established and ELSE put it into
pppout. (flushed in the ip-up script of pppd, run suid root)
To possibly save(?) some time:
1) Every time a user builds up a connection, mail of ALL users should be
sent out. (Otherwise separate maildirs that are flushed before shutting
down the connection would work; now impossible due to security).
2) I tried to set this up with a condredirect statement, but once the mail
has become local I understand that it will be ugly to reconstruct the
recipients from the message header.
3) Surely it's inacceptable not to store mail in pppout and to let
qmail-remote retry message delivery until a PPP connection is up
(even computers have better things to do, and think of the retry
schedule :)
4) Hope I'm right that this hasn't got anything to do with
inetd/tcpserver???
Any ideas how to make this work? I know that this is not exactly what
qmail was designed for, but if everything else works out well, .. maybe ..
I wouldn't be surprised if it was impossible, since my way is doubtful
even to me. Someone should reassure me to let go the approach of sending
out mail of ALL users in ip-up...
Thanks in advance,
sorry for any mistakes (English or qmailish),
Ingo
Notice to people using preline from their own programs which encounter
preline: usage: preline cmd [ arg ... ]
while testing from the commandline:
this error is also given if any of the environment variables UFLINE,
RPLINE or DTLINE are missing. Got the better of me over the last 20
minutes...
Greetz, Peter
--
dataloss networks
I used to be able to bounce messages to unknown addresses, and now that
I have installed tcpserver I no longer can. I still have
&[EMAIL PROTECTED] in .qmail-default in the alias directory. How do
I get the functionality back? I also noticed that instead of having
mail sent to /var/qmail/users/theuser/Mailbox/new the mail is now going
to /var/spooler/mail/theuser. What happened? What can I do to have my
mail go into the old place?
Thanks in Advance!
-Wilson
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Wilson Henriquez wrote:
> I used to be able to bounce messages to unknown addresses, and now that
> I have installed tcpserver I no longer can. I still have
> &[EMAIL PROTECTED] in .qmail-default in the alias directory. How do
> I get the functionality back? I also noticed that instead of having
> mail sent to /var/qmail/users/theuser/Mailbox/new the mail is now going
> to /var/spooler/mail/theuser. What happened? What can I do to have my
> mail go into the old place?
Sounds like sendmail is running. Double check all of your startup
scripts.
Vince.
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Quoting Christopher Tolley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Damn...Since I messed that up completely, here is another try:
OK. Well I know you're trying to help the guy with his DNS issues, but
I'm afraid I read your mail and decided I had to comment.
> Your IP reverses back to this:
>
> 42.147.30.206.in-addr.arpa. 1D IN PTR server.lsbsolutions.com.
>
> Same potential problem. The PTR should point to lsbsolutions.com,
> not server.lsbsolutions.com
How is that? There is an A record for server.lsbsolutions.com in the
DNS.
> Also, you should be using CNAMEs instead of multiple A records. The
> only time you need more than one A record in a zone is when it's
> different.
I don't think your advice is going to solve his problem, nor do I
quite understand your reasoning. Granted that using CNAMEs can be
convenient when services are moved, but there is absolutely no harm in
not using CNAMEs at all. CNAME lookups take longer, even.
For spam-checking, the remote host will do a lookup on the A and MX
record for your domain name. If it gets neither, but there are NS
records for the domain, the message is deferred. If no NS records,
it's not in the root servers, it gets rejected.
I don't see how messing around with all of his records is going to
change the result. In my mind, what is likely happening is that the
lookups are merely timing out, so the message is deferred. I noted a
peculiar delay when querying those name servers. When the records are
expired from the cache on the name server those machines are using, it
could be they aren't getting any answer from teoi.net in a timely
manner, so the mail is deferred.
It could also be true that the name servers those mail servers are
using just plain suck or the mail servers themselves need to be
reconfigured (perhaps they are using name servers in a seperate
collision domain and the link in between is congested, hell I dunno).
Forward and reverse lookups match just fine. I don't see a thing wrong
with that zone, really.
> smtp 1D IN CNAME server <--------you are doing nested
>lookups here
That CNAME points to a valid A record, so do the others. How does
that create a "nested lookup?"
> localhost 1D IN A 127.0.0.1 <-------localhost.lsbsolutions.com? ppl
> can't get to it, so why in DNS?
Hmm, why indeed? Well, how about for software that doesn't use
/etc/hosts, like qmail? If it weren't in the DNS, they would not even
know what the IP address for "localhost" is! That's but one argument
in favor of a "localhost" A record.
I think geographical and network-diverse name servers are what he
needs. If you note, they are both within the same network, which we
know can lead to DNS outage. :)
Aaron
In order to test a backup set of servers with live traffic, we would like to
duplicate the messages coming in and direct the copy to the backup servers.
They will black-hole the messages after processing them.
Would this be possible to do with an alias rule or something like that,
perhaps one that injects the mail into another queue which is forwarded to
our other servers?
Or maybe write some sort of custom filter that puts the same message in two
queues?
Any thoughts? It seems like it shouldn't be too hard the way qmail is
designed.
David
David Ihnen
Integration Engineer
myCIO
503-670-4018
I just saw my first qmail text in a local bookstore, entitled "Running
qmail". It's published by sams or someone, can anyone vouch for the
quality (or lack thereof) of this book?
r.
--
Russell Davies
UNIX Systems Administrator
Deutsche Bank
Many have mentioned in the past that the author of this book has written
other very poor books, and that they felt ashamed to throw it away. The
grabage was too good for the book, IIRC.
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Russell Davies wrote:
| I just saw my first qmail text in a local bookstore, entitled "Running
| qmail". It's published by sams or someone, can anyone vouch for the
| quality (or lack thereof) of this book?
|
| r.
|
| --
| Russell Davies
| UNIX Systems Administrator
| Deutsche Bank
|
--
_ __ _____ __ _________
______________ /_______ ___ ____ /______ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech
__ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC!
_ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)439-0200/fax-437-3052
/_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com
[---------------------------------------------[system info]-----------]
7:35pm up 118 days, 1:38, 5 users, load average: 0.18, 0.19, 0.15
(or lack thereof) of this book?
SAYS IT ALL!!!!
it's pretty much a descriptor nothing like the REAL world and these lists!
I've got more help from these lists that this book doesn't even mention!
The Newbie!!
Kathleen
-----Original Message-----
From: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:36 PM
To: Russell Davies
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Book: 'Running qmail'
Many have mentioned in the past that the author of this book has written
other very poor books, and that they felt ashamed to throw it away. The
grabage was too good for the book, IIRC.
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Russell Davies wrote:
| I just saw my first qmail text in a local bookstore, entitled "Running
| qmail". It's published by sams or someone, can anyone vouch for the
| quality (or lack thereof) of this book?
|
| r.
|
| --
| Russell Davies
| UNIX Systems Administrator
| Deutsche Bank
|
--
_ __ _____ __ _________
______________ /_______ ___ ____ /______ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech
__ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC!
_ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)439-0200/fax-437-3052
/_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com
[---------------------------------------------[system info]-----------]
7:35pm up 118 days, 1:38, 5 users, load average: 0.18, 0.19, 0.15
; (or lack thereof) of this book?
;
; SAYS IT ALL!!!!
I guessed as much, I tend to be very skeptical about anything coming
from 'sams'.
r.
Someone on this list just recommended it to me. I won't mention the name as
it is someone that is providing great help on this group.
I have received a great deal of assistance from this group - it has been
most appreciated. Even though I am not out of the woods yet, I think we are
starting to see the light. Further, I think this group stands as a
testament to the viability of LINUX. Micro who?
I was an NT Engineer - NO MORE!!!
hohohoho
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen Farber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Book: 'Running qmail'
(or lack thereof) of this book?
SAYS IT ALL!!!!
it's pretty much a descriptor nothing like the REAL world and these lists!
I've got more help from these lists that this book doesn't even mention!
The Newbie!!
Kathleen
-----Original Message-----
From: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:36 PM
To: Russell Davies
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Book: 'Running qmail'
Many have mentioned in the past that the author of this book has written
other very poor books, and that they felt ashamed to throw it away. The
grabage was too good for the book, IIRC.
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Russell Davies wrote:
| I just saw my first qmail text in a local bookstore, entitled "Running
| qmail". It's published by sams or someone, can anyone vouch for the
| quality (or lack thereof) of this book?
|
| r.
|
| --
| Russell Davies
| UNIX Systems Administrator
| Deutsche Bank
|
--
_ __ _____ __ _________
______________ /_______ ___ ____ /______ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech
__ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC!
_ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)439-0200/fax-437-3052
/_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com
[---------------------------------------------[system info]-----------]
7:35pm up 118 days, 1:38, 5 users, load average: 0.18, 0.19, 0.15
I've bought the book and as for quality I have to say it is mediocre. It
starts out with descriptions of e-mail in general, qmail service, DNS and
SMTP. Then it runs through installation and configuration and advanced
qmail topics. The advanced topics cover mailing lists, daemontools (inetd
is covered in the text), POP and IMAP servers, PPP server and supporting
dial-in-clients.
I found Part I lacking and the book would have lost little if it had been left
out or trimmed down. Parts II and III were not bad but LWQ covered just
as much. It actually looks as if Blum took LWQ and just modified it just
a little. The PPP section is not that useful, I feel, to the beginning user
as it would be something an ISP would use but what ISP would want to
run qmail with inetd, which is what is used in the installation section.
I referred to the book for some of the control file descriptions. The
descriptions in the book are a bit more verbose than the man pages so
better for newbies.
Overall, I think that the book may benefit newbies who have had no exposure
to e-mail before and want to or have to set up a mail server (some of the
people
on this list would fit the bill from what I've seen). But for anybody
who's had
any experience with e-mail or is comfortable with unix admin I would recommend
Life With Qmail and the man pages. I set up my server using LWQ and the man
pages and haven't looked at the book since.
2 1/2 stars. Beginners only.
At 12:32 PM 9/6/00 +1100, you wrote:
>I just saw my first qmail text in a local bookstore, entitled "Running
>qmail". It's published by sams or someone, can anyone vouch for the
>quality (or lack thereof) of this book?
>
>r.
>
>--
>Russell Davies
>UNIX Systems Administrator
>Deutsche Bank
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Can someone enlighten me as to how to remove myself from this mailing
list?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Carleton
> Can someone enlighten me as to how to remove myself from this mailing
> list?
Some mailing lists provide unsubscribe information in each message, others
in a "Welcome message" at the time you join (you keep all those, right?),
still others do nothing and expect you to remember how you signed up and
then use the <Undo> key to correct the situation. In the event the <Undo>
key is not available, the following general information should be kept to
ensure you do not receive excess email.
This is what you need to do. Please read these instructions carefully
before beginning.
Tools needed: one hammer, one screwdriver, one pair of pliers, one
heavy-duty pair of wire cutters, one bucket of saline water, a box of
sani-wipes.
Step #1: Stop payment on any checks that you may have sent to your
Internet Service Provider (GOD).
Step #2: If GOD is unresponsive and you are still receiving mail from this
list, you will need to find the "mailhost". This is a machine usually
located in a locked office. Every day around noon, the mailman will
deliver a box of diskettes with that day's mail messages, including yours
from this list, to this machine. Typically, only a handful of people have
keys to the "mailhost". The reason why this machine is locked up is
because this is typically the best, fastest, most powerful computer at
your facility and the people with keys don't want to share it. If you
must, break or pry the door down with one (1) hammer (you did get all the
tools needed?).
Step #3: Find the ON/OFF switch for this machine. Using the pliers, set
the switch to the OFF position by tugging downwards until the disposable
plastic switch breaks away from the computer casing. Discard the
disposable plastic switch in an environmental-friendly manner. This will
alert the mailman to not deliver the diskettes with the messages to the
"mailhost" not unlike the little red flag found on mailboxes. This should
resolve your mail problem immediately.
Step #4: You may experience a recurrence of mail within 72 hours.
If this should happen, you will need to disable the "mailhost" once again
with more forceful measures. Repeat Step #2. Don't be suprised if there
is a sturdier door in place than the one you destroyed previously. This
is due to the fact that the "Have Key" clique found out that someone has
seen their private stash of computer equipment.
Step #5: After you have once again regained entry into the
"mailhost" room, open up the back of the "mailhost". There may be a
large tv-like device on top of the "mailhost" You will need to remove
this first. Take your wire cutters, and cut any cables binding the
tv-like device to the "mailhost". Set the tv-like device to the side.
With your screwdriver, remove each and every screw that you can find on
the "mailhost". Once this is done, the "mailhost" should break away into
two or more pieces.
Step #5: Find a large box with a fan attached to it. It will be clearly
marked with the following labels: "Danger" "High Voltage" "Do not open -
no user-servicable parts". Don't worry, these labels are merely in place
to satisfy OSHA requirements and you are not in any danger at all. Take
the bucket of saline water and pour it into any vents or ports that the
large box may have. Any extra water should be poured directly into the
computer chassis, be sure to properly soak each and every component.
Step #6: In the event of fire (OSHA has been known to be right on
occassion), douse any flames with the sani-wipes.
This solution is provided without warranty. It is not bio-degradable or
fat-free. In the event of sudden death, contact a physician immediately.
----
Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Marriott) for this info.
Hope this helps. Have a nice day.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Carleton
>
> Can someone enlighten me as to how to remove myself from this mailing
> list?
That said, going to www.qmail.org gives you a nice link to
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
that tells all about managing your subscription to this maillist.
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Don Wright wrote:
> This will
> alert the mailman to not deliver the diskettes with the messages to the
> "mailhost" not unlike the little red flag found on mailboxes.
I always thought that the red flag on the mailbox meant that there
was mail to be picked up...
-mike
--
"If I should take a notion to jump into the ocean
Tain't nobody's bizness if I do"
-- Billie Holiday
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Key ID = 1024D/9A256AE5 1999-11-13 Mike Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Glover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> I always thought that the red flag on the mailbox meant that there
> was mail to be picked up...
That refers to the little-known (and hard to achieve accidentally) "double
down" position that means "No transport provider is available for delivery
to this recipient."
Sam Carleton wrote:
>
> Can someone enlighten me as to how to remove myself from this mailing
> list?
I don't know myself, but I know a guy that does. His email address
is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Drop him a line, and I'm sure he'll
be happy to help you...
Good luck,
Eric
Hi,
I like the procmail. It can deliever my mail to many separate mailbox.
It is useful when I subscribe many mailing list.
Hazy
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:58:31AM +0800, Hazy Xu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I like the procmail. It can deliever my mail to many separate mailbox.
> It is useful when I subscribe many mailing list.
Check out FAQ in the qmail source tree (probably /usr/src/qmail-1.03/),
especially section 4.4.
Greetz, Peter
--
dataloss networks
I have setup the qmail server and tested. My system time is correct but
when I sent mail through smtp server, the date appeared on head was totally
wrong. Does anyone know why? Do I have to set system hardware clock to
GMT or anything else?
Any help will be appreciated.
Alan
try the date patch on
http://www.qmail.org
it is a patch to date822fmt.c
search for that on the site, I am sure you will find the patch.
Cheers
Charles Warwick
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Chung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2000 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: timestamp
I have setup the qmail server and tested. My system time is correct but
when I sent mail through smtp server, the date appeared on head was totally
wrong. Does anyone know why? Do I have to set system hardware clock to
GMT or anything else?
Any help will be appreciated.
Alan
Please Note: The information contained in this email is confidential. If
you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the
information in this email in any way. If you have received this email in
error, kindly notify the sender. The sender does not guarantee the
integrity of this email or any attached files.
I'm getting CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3) errors when sending
mail to AOL.. I have the big DNS patch applied but that doesn't seem to be
the problem:
adam@spotted:~$ dig aol.com mx
; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> aol.com mx
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 10, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;; aol.com, type = MX, class = IN
;; ANSWER SECTION:
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 yh.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 za.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 zb.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 zc.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 zd.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 yb.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 yc.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 yd.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 ye.mx.aol.com.
aol.com. 0S IN MX 15 yg.mx.aol.com.
;; Total query time: 6 msec
;; FROM: spotted to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1
;; WHEN: Wed Sep 6 02:12:31 2000
;; MSG SIZE sent: 25 rcvd: 218
As you can see the reply size is only 218 bytes.
Anyone else getting these?
--Adam
Is anyone using tcpserver on a few daemon sockets as an alternative to
a firewall?
Thanks,
John
--
John Conover Tel. 408.370.2688 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
631 Lamont Ct. Cel. 408.772.7733
Campbell, CA 95008 Fax. 408.379.9602 http://www.johncon.com
Short review:
It may work as a thicker replacement for Adam McKennas (no offense Adam!)
qmail-HOWTO.
It basically is a book that let's you set up a FreeBSD-box with qmail.
It's title should therefore have been
"Installation description for FreeBSD/qmail MTA".
It does NOT meet the "life-with-qmail" (by Dave Sill) standard.
* It tries to cover to much. Yes, there are interesting with a DNS-chapter,
but please skip trivial things and focus on MAIL things. As an example;
I found no mention of the very common CNAME configuration error. What had
been good
* It is too FreeBSD-centric. It includes comments for Linux but is way to
much NON-generic.
* Things are in wrong order. First an installation description without
daemontools. Then a daemontools chapter first after a strange chapter about
ezmlm.
Whats good?
It's quite hard to tell.
* It covers daemontools 0.70. But not better than anyone else on the net
including djb.
* It covers dnscache (now djbdns). Really.
Summary: DON'T BUY IT unless you just want a thick installation manual for a
FreeBSD-qmail-box.
Use life-with-qmail and http://www.qmail.org/ instead.
I'll come back with a REAL review next week.
/magnus
--
http://x42.com/
|
Is there a way to have all incoming and outgoing
emails (with attachments) sent to a secret user for later viewing?
Les
|
* Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 02:55]:
> Is there a way to have all incoming and outgoing emails (with
> attachments) sent to a secret user for later viewing?
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies
I sometimes wonder why so many people running this excellent piece of
software are so blatantly unable to configure their MUAs to conform to
minimal standards, though. Oh well...
Being new to Qmail, and even after going to the url that you so politely
provided, I still do not see the answer.
Does that method you pointed to via url actually provide a pop-account where
one can login and view all sent/received messages from any pop3 client?
And, once viewing each individual message, provide the ability to save
attachments?
Les.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: Monitoring Email
> * Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 02:55]:
> > Is there a way to have all incoming and outgoing emails (with
> > attachments) sent to a secret user for later viewing?
>
> http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies
>
> I sometimes wonder why so many people running this excellent piece of
> software are so blatantly unable to configure their MUAs to conform to
> minimal standards, though. Oh well...
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:47:14AM -0500, Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Being new to Qmail, and even after going to the url that you so politely
> provided, I still do not see the answer.
Read closer, or get glasses.
> Does that method you pointed to via url actually provide a pop-account where
> one can login and view all sent/received messages from any pop3 client?
> And, once viewing each individual message, provide the ability to save
> attachments?
Does qmail actually provide a pop-account where one can login and view all
sent/recieved messages from any pop3 client? And, once viewing each
individual message, provide the ability to save attachments?
Does Linux actually provide a pop-account where one can login and view
all sent/received messages from any pop3 client? And, once viewing each
individual message, provide the ability to save attachments?
> Les.
--Adam
oooh! Hand-bags at dawn, ladies!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 06 September 2000 09:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Monitoring Email
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:47:14AM -0500, Leslie Bester
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Being new to Qmail, and even after going to the url that
> you so politely
> > provided, I still do not see the answer.
>
> Read closer, or get glasses.
>
> > Does that method you pointed to via url actually provide a
> pop-account where
> > one can login and view all sent/received messages from any
> pop3 client?
> > And, once viewing each individual message, provide the
> ability to save
> > attachments?
>
> Does qmail actually provide a pop-account where one can login
> and view all
> sent/recieved messages from any pop3 client? And, once viewing each
> individual message, provide the ability to save attachments?
>
> Does Linux actually provide a pop-account where one can login and view
> all sent/received messages from any pop3 client? And, once
> viewing each
> individual message, provide the ability to save attachments?
>
> > Les.
>
> --Adam
>
* Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 04:04]:
> "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 02:55]:
[Message reformatted, cropped and trimmed. Thanks for the extra work, Leslie]
> > > Is there a way to have all incoming and outgoing emails (with
> > > attachments) sent to a secret user for later viewing?
> >
> > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies
> Being new to Qmail, and even after going to the url that you so politely
> provided, I still do not see the answer.
Huh? Grab the sources, add the changes, recompile, reinstall - done.
> Does that method you pointed to via url actually provide a pop-account
> where one can login and view all sent/received messages from any pop3
> client?
It provides a mailbox /var/qmail/alias/msg-log. You could put
"&big_brother" in /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-log and have all mail
forwarded there.
> And, once viewing each individual message, provide the
> ability to save attachments?
All it does is copy each mail to a file that can be read with any decent
MUA. That does specifically exclude anything from Mircosoft.
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:12:45AM +0100, Steve Carter wrote:
> oooh! Hand-bags at dawn, ladies!
It's bad enough when people ask questions that are in the FAQ, but to refuse
to even read the answers after they are given is just inexcusable.
--Adam
* Steve Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 04:25]:
> oooh! Hand-bags at dawn, ladies!
More like "Look, Ma, it's clueless lusers on the prowl again. Lock away
your sheep, folks...". Why don't you take your cheapo Wintendo back to
your trailer park and cry yourself to sleep?
So many lusers, so little ammunition...
* Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 04:32]:
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:12:45AM +0100, Steve Carter wrote:
> > oooh! Hand-bags at dawn, ladies!
>
> It's bad enough when people ask questions that are in the FAQ, but to
> refuse to even read the answers after they are given is just
> inexcusable.
That's not the only problem. If you take a look at
http://msgs.securepoint.com/qmail/ you'll find that the Steves and
Leslies of this world - in using software that simply is not meant to be
used outside an asylum - also wreck archives: the threading is totally
fscked up there.. I've just about had it with this list. The software is
great but the amount of whining Mircosoft lusers is becoming
unacceptable. Bummer.
So your answer is no then. Okey, thanks for your "help".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Monitoring Email
> * Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 04:04]:
> > "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 02:55]:
>
> [Message reformatted, cropped and trimmed. Thanks for the extra work,
Leslie]
>
> > > > Is there a way to have all incoming and outgoing emails (with
> > > > attachments) sent to a secret user for later viewing?
> > >
> > > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies
>
> > Being new to Qmail, and even after going to the url that you so politely
> > provided, I still do not see the answer.
>
> Huh? Grab the sources, add the changes, recompile, reinstall - done.
>
> > Does that method you pointed to via url actually provide a pop-account
> > where one can login and view all sent/received messages from any pop3
> > client?
>
> It provides a mailbox /var/qmail/alias/msg-log. You could put
> "&big_brother" in /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-log and have all mail
> forwarded there.
>
> > And, once viewing each individual message, provide the
> > ability to save attachments?
>
> All it does is copy each mail to a file that can be read with any decent
> MUA. That does specifically exclude anything from Mircosoft.
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:32:03AM -0500, Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So your answer is no then. Okey, thanks for your "help".
I don't flame very often (actually haven't flamed in a long time), but
your complaints about us not helping you are false. The email you are
sending this futile reply to is quite informative, and just a bit of
reading will help you understand what it means. Well-directed questions
help too.
You are the childish one here.
Greetz, Peter
--
dataloss networks
Hi,
I have a question about qmail's timestamp.
This is the message I sent for testing and it appeared two differnet
time. Only the one on the top head was a wrong timestamp. Does anyone
know why this happen\? I actually tried date822fmt.c patch and got this
result.
From alan@mydomain Wed Sep 06 07:04:32 2000
Return-Path: <alan@mydomain>
Delivered-To: alan@mydomain
Received: (qmail 586 invoked by uid 0); 6 Sep 2000 16:04:32 +0900
Date: 6 Sep 2000 16:04:32 +0900
Message-ID: <20000906070432.585.qmail@mydomain>
From: alan@mydomain
Thanks in advanced.
Alan
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$B%"%i%s!!%A%c%s(B
*************************************
$B%7%k%P!<%(%C%0%F%/%N%m%8!<3t<02qhttp://www.silveregg.co.jp
*************************************
Hi
now I have been running qmail fore a while. The logs keep on growing,
the mail-traffic increases. It now becomes necessary to evaluate the
logs to know who produced how much traffic. There will be some thousand
pop users and so I guess it might be a really good idea to put all the
logs in a database and query the database for needed information.
So I would be glad if someone could give me a hint on how to solve the
following two problems:
1. How can I get the qmail logs into a database? Is there a wesite
onthis issue? I really would like to use MySQL.
2. How do I generate a log analysis from the database (all the tools use
textfiles). Any tool evaluationg the logs might be o.k.
It would be great if anyone could give me a hint, website, etc.
thanks a lot in advance
Clemens
What a useful list.
I would of thought that posting what I thought was a pretty basic question
would yield something resembling an answer from someone.
I hope the responses I received so far, both on and off list, are not
examples of typical hospitality and support I hope to receive.
I would ask that people who do reply, to actually include an answer instead
of a veiled flame.. send the flames off-list to spare the rest of the users
the enjoyment of reading what essentially is static noise.
...
For your enjoyment thought Adam, I will dig out some prescription glasses
and re-read and re-state my last message, just for you in an easier to
understand way..
Here it is:
Based on the answer from the friendly people on the list that I've
encountered so far, I'm to understand the URL to the FAQ (which I so
blatantly did not read) describes a method to do what I asked in my original
message...
And I'll restate that as well, with some extra commentary just so everyone
know what and why I wish to know if this can be done.
I've been contacted by a client who wishes to monitor incoming and outgoing
email, to the extent of message body contents, and attachments. (Please,
send your "This is immoral/illegal/un-right" comments to me off-list). For
reasons which are really not relevant to the users of the list, I won't
explain why they want to do this, other than, they want to do it.
The final outcome I would like to achieve is to have a pop account where the
client can retrieve all mail sent in and out of their company. I would like
each message to be available to your typical outlook/Eudora/pop3 compatible
mail client. I would also like the ability to select each message and if
desired, view its contents in full, as well as the ability to save
attachments added to the email in question.
What is not suitable, is a log of To/From/Message Size, incase there is any
confusion. The actual contents (and attachments) must be easily viewable,
just as if the email was sent to you (instead of nabbed/copy/forwarded in
the process)
So! If the URL http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies actually
provides the exact answer I'm looking for, please excuse my ignorance.
Otherwise, I would really appreciate anyone who can provide me with relevant
information (minus the flames, and non-answer yielding responses) (Send
those off-list)
Thanks,
Les.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: Monitoring Email
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:47:14AM -0500, Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > Being new to Qmail, and even after going to the url that you so politely
> > provided, I still do not see the answer.
>
> Read closer, or get glasses.
>
> > Does that method you pointed to via url actually provide a pop-account
where
> > one can login and view all sent/received messages from any pop3 client?
> > And, once viewing each individual message, provide the ability to save
> > attachments?
>
> Does qmail actually provide a pop-account where one can login and view all
> sent/recieved messages from any pop3 client? And, once viewing each
> individual message, provide the ability to save attachments?
>
> Does Linux actually provide a pop-account where one can login and view
> all sent/received messages from any pop3 client? And, once viewing each
> individual message, provide the ability to save attachments?
>
> > Les.
>
> --Adam
hello,
please help me with this problem. if qmail failed to deliver the emails to
the destination then automatically it will be bounce to the sender right?
if the bounces email have an attachment then how can i remove the
attachment so that only the text file error message will be bounce to the
sender.
please help!
thanks in advance
|
Please excuse my rash comments, but yes I'd like to
bite off my nose to spite my face.
I'm quite surprised that after joining the list
about... 1 hour ago? That I raised the (over-used) Signal to noise
ratio.
For anyone who despises the seemingly inevitable
flame wars that occur on technical mailing lists, I apologize for being what
seems to be a catalyst.
I still await the days when one can post a
legitimate question to a list, without receiving a barrage of out of context
messages with personal opinions, and RTFM a**hole, especially when they send
them to the list. Perhaps this is why some lists are
moderated.
I was hoping that this list for tech support would
be above the level of your typical IRC #linux channel, but from what I've seen,
it hasn't.
Perhaps the people who have taken it upon
themselves to respond to me as if I were some belligerent idiot should try to
realize that everyone is not as smart as they are, or experienced as they
are.
Frankly, coming from a very basic sendmail
background, the url that points to the FAQ would make very little sense to
anyone reading it, especially when they are not familiar with a product they've
just downloaded.
If it wasn't for the apparent O'Riely(sp) book in
the works (or is it done?), I would cease to use the product based on the TONE
of the support I've received so far.. It seems like the list (at least
this early in the morning) is stocked by a bunch of know-it-all teenagers
with a severe lack of etiquette.
So to end, I thought the list was a forum for
asking questions and getting answers.. not getting slammed.
To all the nice people, who will wake this morning
to read all this crap, I'll apologize yet again for bringing the crap users on
this list out of the wood work.
Les.
|
* Leslie Bester [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000906 05:09]:
You call that a flame? You've got to be joking...
> I'd like to bite off my nose to spite my face.
Why don't you just blow out your brains and make this all end?
> I'm quite surprised that after joining the list about... 1 hour ago?
Interesting use of grammar here. Tell me, Leslie, are you intellectually
challenged or just dumb as shit? Apart from that: minimum lurking
period: two weeks. Not 1 hour.
> For anyone who despises the seemingly inevitable flame wars that occur
> on technical mailing lists, I apologize for being what seems to be a
> catalyst.
You're not a catalyst, Leslie. Catalysts do something useful. You just
suck. And flamewars are quite evitable: kill all lusers, let God sort'em
out. Easy as that.
> I still await the days when one can post a legitimate question to a
> list, without receiving a barrage of out of context messages with
> personal opinions, and RTFM a**hole, especially when they send them to
> the list.
A question covered by the FAQ is not legitimate, it's just stupid. And
noone told you to read the fucking manual, asshole. I don't even recall
calling you an asshole - that was you in a PM IIRC.
> Perhaps this is why some lists are moderated.
Not really, Leslie. Lists are moderated to keep idiots asking FAQs out.
> I was hoping that this list for tech support would be above the level
> of your typical IRC #linux channel, but from what I've seen, it
> hasn't.
So that's where you got your technical expertise, eh? IRC... Tell you
what, Leslie: you got some things the *wrong* way.
1. This is not a list for tech support. On a good day, it is a list
where a polite and informed question about a generic problem is answered
by some really competent people. On a bad day, I answer your questions.
2, This is *not* IRC. Read the FAQ, RTFM, read Dave Sill's great LWQ.
If that does not help, crawl back under the rock you came from and use
MS Exchange. Eh. Wait. You're using MS Exchange. Get a bigger rock.
> Perhaps the people who have taken it upon themselves to respond to me
> as if I were some belligerent idiot should try to realize that
> everyone is not as smart as they are, or experienced as they are.
1. Noone ever called you belligerent.
2. Stating the painfully obvious, hmmm?
> Frankly, coming from a very basic sendmail background, the url that
> points to the FAQ would make very little sense to anyone reading it,
> especially when they are not familiar with a product they've just
> downloaded.
Well, great. So you dl s0m3 k00! h4x0R $tuFf and expect it to work out
of the box. When - surprise, surprise - it doesn't, you don't even
bother to understand it. Then, when you get a correct and exhaustive
answer within 5 minutes, you don't read it but start whining. Face it,
Leslie, you *are* an idiot. Not a belligerent idiot, but just Joe Random
Idiot.
> It seems like the list (at least this early in the morning) is stocked
> by a bunch of know-it-all teenagers with a severe lack of etiquette.
Nahhh... You don't leave an impression of knowing *any*thing, Leslie.
> So to end, I thought the list was a forum for asking questions and
> getting answers.. not getting slammed.
No, Leslie. It's a forum to make yourself an idiot by not reading the
basic information, using crappy software and whining a lot.
Some people are only alive because it's illegal to kill them.
Hi,
I have a strange problem. I am using qmail on redhat linux 6.0. I am running
tcpserver. My /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/allow.deny files are empty. I am not
using any firewall.
I have following lines in my /etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smtp file and then i made a
cdb files from it
127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
:allow
I have also check with tcprulescheck whether my IP address is allowed to connect
to this smtp port? Now my problem is I am unable to connect to qmail server 25
port from any remote server. I am able to connect from the same server to 25
port.
Please help
kapil
