On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Javier Ribelles wrote:

> 
>       Hi all, first of all, sorry for some of my poor english expresions
> you'll find in my mail, but it's been long since I last used it ;)

De nada.

> ...
>
>       When I started qmail, all seemed to work fine... Mail was correctly
> delivered inside an outside the server. But I like to send mail through
> telneting port 25, so I did this:
> 
>   telnet localhost 25
>   HELO aimplas.es
>   MAIL FROM: jribelles
>   RCPT TO: jribelles
>   DATA
>   hola 
>   .
>   quit
> 
> ...
>
> So, everything seems to be right... Now let's take a look at users' inbox
> (/var/spool/mail/jribelles) ...
> 
>   From jribelles Fri Sep 08 07:57:54 2000
>   Return-Path: <jribelles>
>   Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Received: (qmail 11831 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2000 07:57:53 -0000
>   Received: from localhost (HELO aimplas.es) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>     by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2000 07:57:53 -0000
>   hola 
> 
> Well, all I can see here is that the header is missing, fields "From", "To",
> and "Date" should appear after second "Received:" line, but they do not... Of
> course this only happens when delivering to a local user... And I have
> discovered why...
> 
>       Mail clients do send the header after the DATA tag, like this...
> 
> ...
> DATA
> Date: Fri Sep 08 07:57:54 2000
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> hola
> ...
> 
>       This would be the DATA they would send... doing that makes it work
> fine... If you put only a "Subject" or "From" field, and you do not specify
> all the fields (or maybe only the date), it will ignore the rest of the
> message, and will show you only the fields you've entered... 

The SMTP daemon (qmail's or anyone elses for that matter) is not
responsible for adding RFC822 headers such as From: or To: etc. All
the SMTP daemon does is accept the incoming data and possibly add a
Received: header.

The sending system is responsible for 'doing the right thing' with
respect to From: headers etc.

By telnetting into port 25, you were acting as the SMTP client, so you
were resonsible for adding the From: header etc.

Here's a sample from my system:

    telnet allspice 25
    Trying 192.168.16.20...
    Connected to allspice.e-smith.net.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    220 e-smith.net ESMTP
    helo risotto
    250 e-smith.net
    mail from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    250 ok
    rcpt to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    250 ok
    data
    354 go ahead
    From: Peter Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Subject: testing from telnet

    g'day   
    .
    250 ok 968422217 qp 27634
    quit
    221 e-smith.net
    Connection closed by foreign host.

I gave the system the appropriate RFC822 headers, and here is what
ended up in my Maildir/

    Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Received: (qmail 27634 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2000 14:09:43 -0000
    Received: from unknown (HELO risotto) (192.168.16.154)
      by 192.168.16.20 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2000 14:09:43 -0000
    From: Peter Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Subject: testing from telnet

    g'day

The bottom line is that your system is working properly. You just
assumed it was going to do more than it actually does.

> 
>       I tried making it work by removing completely /var/qmail (rm -Rf
> /var/qmail/*) and reinstalling qmail and fastforward and ucspi, but that
> doesn't solve the problem.. maybe it's not a qmail problem, but procmail's? But

There was no need to reinstall. It was working fine.

> I don't understand why it's happened after rebooting the system...
> 
>       Maybe the problem is in qmail-local or qmail-smtpd->qmail-queue, as
> doing 
> echo "To: jribelles" | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
> works fine...

That works fine because qmail-inject creates From: and To: headers etc
if they don't already exist. That is part of its job.

qmail-smtpd's job is not to add headers that aren't there.

-- 
Regards
Peter
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