In the immortal words of Felix von Leitner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> The inferiority was noted by yourself, so I don't see a flamebait here.

I think you're reading a little too much into what I'm saying.  "Not
as good as veritas" is a far cry from "inferior," and is still a long
sight better than "only available as unstable patch sets."  Match your
tools to your task: not everybody needs a gold-plated hammer to pound
in penny nails, nor is everybody interested in forging their own steel.

> As you might know, the journaling code is new in Solaris 7.  

Solaris 7 is about two years old now.  Ahem.

> Previously, Sun would offer licensed code from another vendor
> (Veritas AFAIK).  

Actually, no.  Sun has always had two JFS/LVM products, targeted at
different markets.  Solstice DiskSuite (which was part of the "server"
licenses for Solaris going back at least to 2.4) was an internally
developed solution targeted at low- to mid-range servers.  For
high-end requirements (e.g. database hosting), they OEMed Veritas'
VXFS/VXVM product.

> You wouldn't actually recommend new Sun code to anyone for
> reliability reasons, would you?

As far as I am aware, the journalling code in 2.7 is simply the
"metatrans" code from DiskSuite, slightly tweaked (the log gets stuck
into the filesystem root-reserved space instead of onto a dedicated
partition) and bundled into the core OS.  And DiskSuite has been
around forever and a day.

> Besides, what makes you claim that there is no journaling for free
> unices?

I claim no such thing.  There are plenty of them, none of which are
anywhere near production-quality.  (Hans Reiser would disagree I
guess, but I will content myself with knowing that Linus and Alan do
not.)  That will change with time.

This conversation has veered into the silly and completely off-topic;
I will no longer cc the list at this point.

-n

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