* Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000920 11:48]:
> > From: Greg Kopp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > It's too bad that the article was somewhat accurate. Although I
> > cannot say that I have experienced the same kind of treatment, I
> > have seen it, and it is deplorable. I don't pretend I am an expert
> > on qmail, but I have been successful with several installations of
> > it. Maybe I've been lucky.
> >
> Unfortunately, the qmail list wants to just be a discussion for
> high-level/ difficult qmail problems, and not a
> hand-holding/question-redirect list. What's unfortunate about it?
> There aren't really any other forums for the discussion.
What discussion? You have a problem - you read the docs. You still have
a problem - you ask here in an acceptable fashion (which includes the
use of an MUA that's apt for participation in public mailing lists
(hint: not yours)). And - lo! - you're helped. Well, fine.
> Is there a solution? Well, the obvious one is to allow people to ask
> newbieish questions without being flamed.
"Never attribute to malice..." Wise up, Brad - you don't have to be an
idiot just because you're new to qmail. And qmail being a complex
program to be used by seasoned admins, you really *shouldn't* be. Ever
seen some clueful person get flamed for asking a sensible question?
> Even though qmail is logical, it's complex; just because something is
> logical and coherent, doesn't mean it's comprehensible. Quantum
> physics theory is even more elegant, but considerably less
> comprehensible.
But equally well documented. Now, what would you say about some retarted
highschool student going "dude, I'm gonna build myself some nice quantum
thingy - you gonna help or what?!?"?
[Alternatives]
> Another alternative that I find less appealing but perhaps more
> qmailian is to create another mailing list that expressly handles such
> qmail problems, like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the such. Or maybe a
> whole host of mailing lists. Modularize the list!
Not enough traffic. After "killfiling", there's about 20 messages per
day left. Fine.
> I'm attaching below my earlier post in support of comp.mail.qmail.
[...]
> 3) Usenet is Useless! (i.e. it used to be better than mailing lists,
> now its not).
[...]
> 3) Usenet needs updating. I've got some ideas on that, and anyone who
> is interested in some bold ideas for shaking up the newsgroups should
> drop me a line.
Ummmm... I think I'll let this one pass. Somehow "shake up" and "I use
Windows" don't mix in a way I think I'd like. So, thanks but no thanks.
> I hope there are some points here that seem to make sense.
There's always hope, Brad...
