qmail Digest 27 Sep 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1136

Topics (messages 49437 through 49498):

POP3 QUOTA
        49437 by: Linux
        49438 by: Petr Novotny
        49439 by: Frank Tegtmeyer

Re: double bounce policy
        49440 by: Jost Krieger

Re: Internal DNS issues/550 cannot route to sender
        49441 by: John Portwin

Secondary Mail Server
        49442 by: Nick Davies
        49443 by: Peter van Dijk

open-smtp issues (is anyone is using this?)
        49444 by: andy
        49446 by: Charles Cazabon
        49466 by: andy
        49469 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: daemontools
        49445 by: Marc Knoop
        49455 by: Alexander Jernejcic
        49457 by: Ben Beuchler
        49459 by: Dave Sill
        49463 by: Matt Brown
        49464 by: Ben Beuchler
        49472 by: Vern Hart
        49473 by: markd.bushwire.net
        49474 by: Ben Beuchler

Re: urgent help required (fwd)
        49447 by: Dave Sill
        49453 by: Raul Miller

Problem receiving
        49448 by: Kari Suomela
        49450 by: Andy Bradford
        49467 by: Kari Suomela
        49468 by: Alexander Jernejcic
        49487 by: Andy Bradford

no progess indicator with messenger
        49449 by: Jens Georg
        49451 by: Tim Hunter
        49452 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: Some troubles
        49454 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Some users not getting mail with Outlook
        49456 by: Andy Abshagen
        49462 by: Alexander Jernejcic
        49475 by: Duane L.
        49481 by: Mark Walsh

Re: t-shirts (was: daemontools)
        49458 by: Johan Almqvist
        49461 by: Peter van Dijk
        49465 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Re: qmail internals documentation
        49460 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Concurrency Remote up to 500
        49470 by: Ricardo Albano
        49471 by: Peter van Dijk

Outlook 'server pushed' mail notification
        49476 by: John Portwin
        49479 by: Ihnen, David
        49484 by: Eric Cox
        49495 by: Matt Brown

Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname
        49477 by: Jan Knepper
        49480 by: markd.bushwire.net
        49486 by: Jan Knepper
        49488 by: markd.bushwire.net
        49489 by: Greg White

Mail routing
        49478 by: Gustavo Zambon Rozatti

Re: spooled messages take too long to send
        49482 by: Doug Balmer
        49483 by: markd.bushwire.net

Changing a from address. Please help...
        49485 by: Petricevich, Paul
        49492 by: Frank Tegtmeyer

is this possible with qmail
        49490 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com
        49493 by: Frank Tegtmeyer

sending mails to all the users
        49491 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com
        49494 by: Frank Tegtmeyer

ipaddress in ~control/badmailsfrom
        49496 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com
        49497 by: Frank Tegtmeyer

tcpserver
        49498 by: Jonathan Fanti

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Hi all.

I'm searching a method to limit pop3 mail account.
My users left many Mb messages on their pop3 account, and when they try to
download them, the connection was very slow and log.
Limiting their pop3 maximun storing account, i think all was good.
Any ideas?
Qmail have some add-on for this?




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On 26 Sep 2000, at 12:03, Linux wrote:

> I'm searching a method to limit pop3 mail account.
> My users left many Mb messages on their pop3 account, and when they
> try to download them, the connection was very slow and log. Limiting
> their pop3 maximun storing account, i think all was good. Any ideas?
> Qmail have some add-on for this?

Well, there are two approaches:

1. Users are virtual and/or can't edit their .qmail files. You put 
"|checkquota.sh" into their .qmail. This script checks size of mail, 
size of mailbox and returns 0 for OK, 100 for refuse, 111 for try 
again later. There's such a script on www.qmail.org.

2. You use filesystem quota.


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> Limiting their pop3 maximun storing account, i think all was good.
> Any ideas?

You could use the quota mechanism (if there is any) of your operating 
system. This has the disadvantage of rejecting mails when the limit is 
reached.

I prefer to run a cleaning job that deletes mail older than a policy
defined maximum if a policy defined maximum of space is allocated.
This way the user is allowed to exceed the limit for a defined amount of 
time and mails are normally not bounced.
The user should get a summary about deleted mails - these summaries should 
never be deleted.

Regards, Frank




On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:06:13AM +0300, Jos Okhuijsen wrote:

> What is your policy for double bounces? 
> Users come and go, and always seem to leave subscriptions open, and produce bounces. 
> Most of these bounces doublebounce. 
> Do you write to the postmaster of these domains? (Seems to have no effect. )
> Or just blacklist?  (and possible handicap other users?)
> Or just accept the fact that return-addresses usually don't work?

I check all double-bounces when I find time.

Spams are redirected to my spam-handling factory :-)
Postmasters not accepting bounces are LARTed.
Local users producing mail loops are educated.
Same for local users sending enormous mails.
Addressing problems are fixed.
The (small) rest is dropped.

Jost
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Here's one (sent from Pine from user john)

@4000000039d094c1061b0aac new msg 292822
@4000000039d094c1062226fc info msg 292822: bytes 464 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 647 uid 500
@4000000039d094c1065131f4 starting delivery 5: msg 292822 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@4000000039d094c106516c8c status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
@4000000039d094c30bf65314 delivery 5: failure:
137.205.128.8_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_550_rejecte
d:_cannot_route_to_sender_<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/
@4000000039d094c30bf6c45c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@4000000039d094c30cac7be4 bounce msg 292822 qp 649
@4000000039d094c30cb063e4 end msg 292822

Here's what happens when I send from yet another account (this is hosted at
our ISP) (this was from command line MAIL as root).

@4000000039d0958431319ecc new msg 292822
@4000000039d0958431398e0c info msg 292822: bytes 53966 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 693 uid 0
@4000000039d095843164ef84 starting delivery 7: msg 292822 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@4000000039d0958431652e04 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
@4000000039d0958f023e748c delivery 7: success:
207.228.254.9_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_OK_id=13dtmM-00073z-00
/
@4000000039d0958f023eda1c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@4000000039d0958f023eeda4 end msg 292822


This has answered one of my questions - it seems that from a commandline,
Qmail will automatically add '@mobiletones.com' while Pine needs to be also
told to do that? Is this correct?

My main concern is the top message - although currently
'office.mobiletones.com' doesn't exist, it will when I get this up and
running as the main server, however pluto.office.mobiletones.com will never
exist as it is an internal portforward from the machine
office.mobiletones.com - will this cause me problems in the future?

Thanks
John










Hi, 

        Can someone help me understand secondary mail servers?  What do i do to
configure qmail to be a secondary server.  I understand the DNS stuff
(server preference and stuff) and i have a two qmail servers (one
configured and working as a primary mail server for a domain.

        Thanks.

        Nick.


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On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:45:35PM +0100, Nick Davies wrote:
> 
>       Can someone help me understand secondary mail servers?  What do i do to
> configure qmail to be a secondary server.  I understand the DNS stuff
> (server preference and stuff) and i have a two qmail servers (one
> configured and working as a primary mail server for a domain.

On the secondary, put the domains you want to be backup for in
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts. Don't put anything in locals or
virtualdomains.

Perhaps some entries in smtproutes telling the box where to deliver mail
to, in case DNS is down.

Greetz, Peter
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'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me




Hey All,
 
I've 2 questions, the first is probably the more interesting.
 
1) I'm trying to implement open-smtp. Open-smtp uses a database generated by pop3 logins to set Relayclients (among other things). I would also like to use a standard static database of Relayclients in conjunction with this. How would I get remote mail users to use the instance of tcpserver w\ dynamic database, and local users\remote servers to use the other instance with the static database? I've thought of setting separate ports in the tcpserver command lines maybe, or can two databases be used with a single tcpserver command?
 
2) Open-smtp sometimes pegs the utilization on my qmail server. Well, tcpmakectl is the process that pegs it, but when I remove \pop3-record the problem goes away. It looks like smtp.cdb creation is haywire, in one 2 minute stretch, nine \etc\smtp.cdb files had been created and retired. Has anyone had this problem or know why it might occur? Office has 80 users.
 
 
Thanks,
Andy
 
 




andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 1) I'm trying to implement open-smtp. Open-smtp uses a database generated by
> pop3 logins to set Relayclients (among other things). I would also like to
> use a standard static database of Relayclients in conjunction with this. How
> would I get remote mail users to use the instance of tcpserver w\ dynamic
> database, and local users\remote servers to use the other instance with the
> static database?

Don't.  Keep a file with your static tcp rules in it, and another
(dynamically generated) file with the dynamic rules in it.  cat them 
together and run tcprules on them.

However, you could also avoid the problem entirely, and use the
excellent relay-ctrl package from Bruce Guenter, which does exactly this,
and works well.  See http://em.ca/~bruceg/relay-ctrl/ for more.

Charles
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> andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 1) I'm trying to implement open-smtp. Open-smtp uses a database
generated by
> > pop3 logins to set Relayclients (among other things). I would also like
to
> > use a standard static database of Relayclients in conjunction with this.
How
> > would I get remote mail users to use the instance of tcpserver w\
dynamic
> > database, and local users\remote servers to use the other instance with
the
> > static database?
>
> Don't.  Keep a file with your static tcp rules in it, and another
> (dynamically generated) file with the dynamic rules in it.  cat them
> together and run tcprules on them.
>
> However, you could also avoid the problem entirely, and use the
> excellent relay-ctrl package from Bruce Guenter, which does exactly this,
> and works well.  See http://em.ca/~bruceg/relay-ctrl/ for more.
>
>Charles

Thanks for the advice Charles. I've looked in relay-ctrl and like what I
see, but I'm wondering is the "fixup address" piece what I would use for the
static relaying addresses I need? It looks like smtp.fixup gets mixed with
smtp.rules to make the smtp.cdb, but the whole concept of fixup addresses
has me stumped. I looked at the qmail FAQ, but am still not sure how "the
guts" of the fixup process shown there work.

-=Andy





andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > However, you could also avoid the problem entirely, and use the
> > excellent relay-ctrl package from Bruce Guenter, which does exactly this,
> > and works well.  See http://em.ca/~bruceg/relay-ctrl/ for more.
 
> Thanks for the advice Charles. I've looked in relay-ctrl and like what I
> see, but I'm wondering is the "fixup address" piece what I would use for the
> static relaying addresses I need? It looks like smtp.fixup gets mixed with
> smtp.rules to make the smtp.cdb, but the whole concept of fixup addresses
> has me stumped. I looked at the qmail FAQ, but am still not sure how "the
> guts" of the fixup process shown there work.

fixup is a third piece of the puzzle -- it lets you send all mail from 
certain clients through a script to "fix up" their broken email (wrong EOL
conventions in their implementation of SMTP, etc).  It's not necessary to
use that part of it, but it helps in cases where you've got clients you want
to relay for who have very broken software, like old versions of Eudora or
Outlook on Windows.

Charles
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:33:21 +0200, "Frans Haarman" wrote:
> > > I see constant disk activity when using daemontools to
> > > monitor qmail.

> All together now...
> 
> "What do the logs say?"TM

Logs?!?  What are logs?!?  ;)

All is now well.  It turns out that my rc file wasn't executable (mental note -
send a message and have that added to the install instructions!).  That would
also explain the empty log!  

../mk w. occasionally flashing hdd activity light.




> I recommend whoever it is that is doing the lovely qmail shirts (I'll be
> ordering mine shortly!) should do one that says "What Do The Logs
> Say?(tm)".  I know I would buy one...
> 

where to order, where - please ...

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Today, Dave Kitabjian wrote:
> 
> Do my eyes deceive me or are you really finally printing and selling
> one
> of the qmail tshirts?
> 
>       http://www.cafepress.com/qmail0a/
  
Yeah.  I signed up at the cafepress site.
  
All four variations are there:
  
   http://www.cafepress.com/qmail0a/
   http://www.cafepress.com/qmail0d/
   http://www.cafepress.com/qmail1a/
   http://www.cafepress.com/qmail1d/
  
There are links to all those "storefronts" from my qmail tshirts
page:  http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/
  
I haven't even ordered one myself.  Their tshirt selection leaves
something to be desired.  The only have one color, white, and they
don't have anything over XL.
  
But the mugs and mouse pads are cool...
  
Vern

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:04:06PM +0200, Alexander Jernejcic wrote:

> > I recommend whoever it is that is doing the lovely qmail shirts (I'll be
> > ordering mine shortly!) should do one that says "What Do The Logs
> > Say?(tm)".  I know I would buy one...
> > 
> 
> where to order, where - please ...
> 
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> email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 

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MAILER-DAEMON                                         (612) 321-9290 x101
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I recommend whoever it is that is doing the lovely qmail shirts (I'll be
>> ordering mine shortly!) should do one that says "What Do The Logs
>> Say?(tm)".  I know I would buy one...
>
>where to order, where - please ...

http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/

-Dave




Ben Beuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I haven't even ordered one myself.  Their tshirt selection leaves
> something to be desired.  The only have one color, white, and they
> don't have anything over XL.

Eh?  The page I'm looking at quotes 2x, 3x and 4x sizes for $3 more.

-Matt




On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 12:25:37PM -0700, Matt Brown wrote:

> Ben Beuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I haven't even ordered one myself.  Their tshirt selection leaves
> > something to be desired.  The only have one color, white, and they
> > don't have anything over XL.
> 
> Eh?  The page I'm looking at quotes 2x, 3x and 4x sizes for $3 more.

I just pasted in an old email from the guy who designed them.  That was
many moons ago...

Ben

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Yesterday, Ben Beuchler wrote:
> 
> I recommend whoever it is that is doing the lovely qmail shirts (I'll be
> ordering mine shortly!) should do one that says "What Do The Logs
> Say?(tm)".  I know I would buy one...

I did a little research to find the true attribution of this phrase.
The first person to mention that it is a trademark was Dave Sill:

  http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg00272.html

There was a message that attributed a 1998 copyright to Dave Sill:

  http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/08/msg01417.html

The earliest message (on the qmail list) of someone saying "What do
the logs say?" was from Martijn Koster on 30 September, 1997:

  http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1997/09/msg01277.html

I checked Dave's lwq but didn't find that phrase.  I'm not sure
where the 1998 copyright came from.  In most of the messages that
attribute the trademark to someone, they attribute it to Dave.
Since he WAS the first to capitalize each word in the phrase and add
a (tm), I think he deserves the credit.  :-)

So, how about this:  Shirt front, small on right side:  the qmail
dolphin with http://lwq.w3.to and/or http://qmail.org under it.  On
the back, the dolphin (bigger) with this quote under it:

   What Do The Logs Say?(tm)
     -- Dave Sill, Life with qmail

(with various font sizes as appropriate)

Thoughts?  Objections?  Contentions?

Vern





>    What Do The Logs Say?(tm)
>      -- Dave Sill, Life with qmail


> Thoughts?  Objections?  Contentions?
 
The LWQ URL?


Regards.




On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:21:39PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Thoughts?  Objections?  Contentions?
>  
> The LWQ URL?

He mentioned that.  http://lwq.w3.to  redirects to the current home of
LWQ.

Ben

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>(1)  changing priority of any queued/deffered messages 

All messages have the same priority. Deferred messages are retried
less frequently as they age, but that can be controlled by adjusting
the modification times on the queue files (e.g., using "touch") to
expire a message sooner or later than the default and/or retry a
message more or less frequently.

>(2)  changing lifetime of defered/queued message

See above.

>(3)  restricting  no of simultanious SMTP sessions from single IP address  

qmail doesn't supprot this, but you could "easily" wrap qmail-smtpd
with a script/program to keep track of sessions by IP address.

>please help me ASAP 

Please don't post your questions more than once. It's rude.

Please use descriptive Subject fields.

-Dave




> >(3)  restricting  no of simultanious SMTP sessions from single IP address  

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:11:26AM -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
> qmail doesn't supprot this, but you could "easily" wrap qmail-smtpd
> with a script/program to keep track of sessions by IP address.

Actually, it lets you control the number of simultaneous outgoing SMTP
sessions from a single IP address.  

Also, tcpserver lets you limit the number of simultaneous incoming SMTP
sessions to a single IP address.  But it won't attempt to drop connections,
or whatever, to throttle SMTP sessions from specific addresses.

-- 
Raul




I am trying to move to Qmail from Sendmail. My main server is at a 
remote location, so I want my email to a machine on my local network. 
It was working fine with Sendmail on both machines. I set up Qmail on 
the local one, but below is what I get.

Why is Qmail interpreting the Delivered-To line this way?


=== Cut ===
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at karicobs.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

< | /var/qmail/bin/fastforward -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)


Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 8989 invoked by alias); 26 Sep 2000 15:22:29 -0000
Delivered-To:  | /var/qmail/bin/fastforward -d 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 8986 invoked by alias); 26 Sep 2000 15:22:28 -0000
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 8983 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 15:22:28 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO k3) (192.168.1.3)
  by 192.168.1.7 with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 15:22:28 -0000
From: "Kari Suomela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:23:17 -0400
Reply-To: "Kari Suomela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT 
(4.0.1381;6)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: >

.

=== Cut ===

 KS






On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:53:25 EST,  wrote:


> I am trying to move to Qmail from Sendmail. My main server is at a 
> remote location, so I want my email to a machine on my local network. 
> It was working fine with Sendmail on both machines. I set up Qmail on 
> the local one, but below is what I get.
> 
> Why is Qmail interpreting the Delivered-To line this way?

Probably because the contents of your dot-qmail are wrong.  Could you 
please post the contents of the dot-qmail that you are using for the 
fastforward.  It looks to me like there is a space at the beginning of 
the line which I believe shouldn't be there.

Andy






Tuesday September 26 2000 10:05, Andy Bradford wrote to Kari Suomela:

 >> up Qmail on the local one, but below is what I get. Why is Qmail
 >> interpreting the Delivered-To line this way?

 AB> Probably because the contents of your dot-qmail are wrong.  Could 
 AB> you
 AB> please post the contents of the dot-qmail that you are using for 
 AB> the
 AB> fastforward.  It looks to me like there is a space at the 
 AB> beginning of
 AB> the line which I believe shouldn't be there.

I don't have a dot-qmail at all! Should I have one, where, and what 
should it contain?

 KS






hi,

> I don't have a dot-qmail at all! Should I have one, where, and what
> should it contain?
>
>  KS

the dot-qmail file should be in each users homedirecory and should contain ./Maildir/ 
to have mails delivered to the users maildir
(created with maildirmake)...

;) a

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Thus said Kari Suomela on Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:55:33 EST:

> I don't have a dot-qmail at all! Should I have one, where, and what 
> should it contain?

If you aren't using any dot-qmail (as in a .qmail-something file) then 
how is it possible that qmail is trying to deliver to:

< | /var/qmail/bin/fastforward -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This looks suspiciously like you have placed a directive in a dot-qmail 
file somewhere to pipe the mail to a program.  As I suggested before, I 
suspect that you have an extra space before the | in your file.

Andy
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hi,

since i moved from sendmail to qmail i have no progress indicator when
popping emails with netscape messenger. i am running qmail-pop3d.

it isn't that necessary, but some customers would like to see the size
of incoming messages.

how to fix this ?

regards,
 
jens
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There is a patch for this on www.qmail.org

-----Original Message-----
From: jg [mailto:jg]On Behalf Of Jens Georg
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:03 PM
To: qmail mailinglist
Subject: no progess indicator with messenger


hi,

since i moved from sendmail to qmail i have no progress indicator when
popping emails with netscape messenger. i am running qmail-pop3d.

it isn't that necessary, but some customers would like to see the size
of incoming messages.

how to fix this ?

regards,
 
jens
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Jens Georg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> since i moved from sendmail to qmail i have no progress indicator when
> popping emails with netscape messenger. i am running qmail-pop3d.

www.qmail.org documents this problem, and points to a patch:
http://www.pingpackets.com/mirrors/qmail/netscape-progress.patch

Charles
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hi,
first of all read life with qmail by dave sill ( 
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html )- really excelent.
qmail delivers mail into a users maildir if in the homedir of the user is a .qmail 
file with the entry ./Maildir/
the maildir MUST be created with ~/qmail/bin/maildirmake ./Maildir
su to the user and it will have the correct permissions and owners (btw: as root you 
may do a maildirmake and create a .qmail file
in /etc/skel and useradd will do the whole thing for you)

[root@localhost]# chmod -R 755 /home/user/Maildir
these permissions are extremely wrong! - or would you allow everyone to read your 
mails?

with tcp-server and checkpassword the start of pop3d may look like:
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup myhost.mydomain.org 
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
| /var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d &

the point is to give qmail-pop3d Maildir as a parameter so it knows where to look for 
mails

hope that helps
;) a

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gustavo
> Schroeder
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Some troubles
>
>
> Hy there palls
>
> i'm new to qmail, and you can find this stupid, but anyway there it
> goes.
> I've sucessfuly installed qmail. it is running properly, and i can send
> mail trough the host. but when i try to receive mail (pop3) the problems
> begin.
> when i initialize the qmail-pop3d it gives me the following message:
> [root@localhost]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail-pop3d.init start
> hard error
> Starting qmail-pop3d...done
>
> the process is there, running.
> but when i try to receive mail via netscape (pop3 requisition) the
> program returns
> the following:
> "this user has no $HOME/Maildir"
>
> and while reading the INSTALL.maildir doc, i've found something
> interesting.
> the doc says
> "The system administrator can set up Maildir as the default for
> everybody
> by creating a maildir in the user home directory and replacing
> ./Mailbox with ./Maildir/ in /var/qmail/rc. Here's how to set up qmail
> to use maildir for your incoming mail:
> [root@localhost]# maildirmake /home/user/Maildir
> [root@localhost]# echo ./Maildir/ > ~/.qmail
> [root@localhost]# chown -R user.user /home/user/Maildir
> [root@localhost]# chmod -R 755 /home/user/Maildir
>
>
> I do ask:
> 1) for the proper working of qmail-pop3d shouldn't I edit
> /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc
> instead of /var/qmail/rc ?
>
> [root@localhost]# cat /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc
> #Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default
> ./Mailbox
>
> [root@localhost]# cat /var/qmail/rc
> #!/bin/sh
> # Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
> # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default.
>
> exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail
>
> 2) How can i correctly setup qmail-pop3d using Maildir format?
>
> 3) What's the difference between Maildir and mbox format? Wich one
> is better?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gustavo Schroeder
> System Administrator
>





We have a few users who are not getting any mail through Outlook.  When you
look in their MailDir however there is new mail there.  Has anyone seen this
type of problem?  If so is there a fix for it?

Thanks
Andy Abshagen
System Administrator
Data-Vision, Inc.
219-243-8625, 888-925-8625
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hi,
sorry, but what, how, where?
pop3, imap, systemuser, virtualdomain ...
please post more information...

;) a
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Abshagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:06 PM
> To: Qmail Mailing List
> Subject: Some users not getting mail with Outlook
> 
> 
> We have a few users who are not getting any mail through Outlook.  When you
> look in their MailDir however there is new mail there.  Has anyone seen this
> type of problem?  If so is there a fix for it?
> 
> Thanks
> Andy Abshagen
> System Administrator
> Data-Vision, Inc.
> 219-243-8625, 888-925-8625
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 




We see this all the time. Typically there is a message in their spool
(.mail or whatever) that has non-standard or forged headers.

Using pine to view their mail, and deleting the spam should allow them to
retrieve the remaining messages with Outlook.

HTH
ciao!
Duane

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Andy Abshagen wrote:

> We have a few users who are not getting any mail through Outlook.  When you
> look in their MailDir however there is new mail there.  Has anyone seen this
> type of problem?  If so is there a fix for it?
> 
> Thanks
> Andy Abshagen
> System Administrator
> Data-Vision, Inc.
> 219-243-8625, 888-925-8625
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 

Duane L         - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

                              





My problem is that all of a sudden, all my users in my office cannot send
mail from their outlook 97.  I am not sure if all the Outlook 97's are gone
corrupt together or is my QMail server not responding as promply as Outlook
may like.

Other email programs seem to be working ok.

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 8:25 PM
To: Andy Abshagen
Cc: Qmail Mailing List
Subject: Re: Some users not getting mail with Outlook


We see this all the time. Typically there is a message in their spool
(.mail or whatever) that has non-standard or forged headers.

Using pine to view their mail, and deleting the spam should allow them to
retrieve the remaining messages with Outlook.

HTH
ciao!
Duane

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Andy Abshagen wrote:

> We have a few users who are not getting any mail through Outlook.  When
you
> look in their MailDir however there is new mail there.  Has anyone seen
this
> type of problem?  If so is there a fix for it?
>
> Thanks
> Andy Abshagen
> System Administrator
> Data-Vision, Inc.
> 219-243-8625, 888-925-8625
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>

Duane L         - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -








On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:04:06PM +0200, Alexander Jernejcic wrote:
> > I recommend whoever it is that is doing the lovely qmail shirts (I'll be
> > ordering mine shortly!) should do one that says "What Do The Logs
> > Say?(tm)".  I know I would buy one...
> where to order, where - please ...

http://www.cafepress.com/

Their t-shirts were cheap all right - but postage to Europe was incredibly
expensive... $30 or so...

-Johan
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Johan Almqvist




On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:10:47PM +0200, Johan Almqvist wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:04:06PM +0200, Alexander Jernejcic wrote:
> > > I recommend whoever it is that is doing the lovely qmail shirts (I'll be
> > > ordering mine shortly!) should do one that says "What Do The Logs
> > > Say?(tm)".  I know I would buy one...
> > where to order, where - please ...
> 
> http://www.cafepress.com/
> 
> Their t-shirts were cheap all right - but postage to Europe was incredibly
> expensive... $30 or so...

That's exactly why I did not order any. Well, that and the lack of
choice in colors.

Greetz, Peter
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'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me




> Their t-shirts were cheap all right - but postage to Europe was incredibly
> expensive... $30 or so...
> 
ouch!!! 

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hi,
> 
> Instead of going straight from reciept to the delivery queue, it would go
> into a processing queue, and hopefully in a manner similar to
> qmail-remote/qmail-local rules, a qmail-process queue would then kick off a
> various processing filters based on a number of rules.  The messages may or
> may not be returned to qmail for delivery after processing.
> 
> Do you think its possible to insert such logic without changing the whole
> flow of qmail?

there is allready a patch to qmail (by Bruce Guenter 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/mail/qmail/www.qmail.org/qmailqueue-patch )
that allows programs to be "inserted" into the qmail-smtpd -> qmail-queue flow.
may be of some interest for you...

;) a


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Simple question: Any here have qmail-1.03 running and get more than 500
"qmail-remote" proceses at same time ?

Bye
RDA.-





On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:05:47PM -0300, Ricardo Albano wrote:
> Simple question: Any here have qmail-1.03 running and get more than 500
> "qmail-remote" proceses at same time ?

Yes.

Greetz, Peter
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'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me




I've seen some offices have new mail delivered 'instantly' to their Outlook
users - I presume it's when done in conjunction with Exchange. That is, as
soon as the server recieves the e-mail, it is put in the user's folder and
they are notified with the little envelope (and annoying sound). I think it
works over NetBIOS.

Will it work via Qmail and a centrally-held POP3 store?

Just wondering.

Thanks
John






Not 'immediately'.

The users will be notified of their new message within the time interval
they have specified to poll the server.  If they say every 10, they will get
the 'ding' within ten minutes.  If they say every 1 minutes, they will get
the 'ding' within one minute.

David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Outlook 'server pushed' mail notification
> 
> 
> I've seen some offices have new mail delivered 'instantly' to 
> their Outlook
> users - I presume it's when done in conjunction with 
> Exchange. That is, as
> soon as the server recieves the e-mail, it is put in the 
> user's folder and
> they are notified with the little envelope (and annoying 
> sound). I think it
> works over NetBIOS.
> 
> Will it work via Qmail and a centrally-held POP3 store?
> 
> Just wondering.
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
> 





John P wrote:
> 
> I've seen some offices have new mail delivered 'instantly' to their Outlook
> users - I presume it's when done in conjunction with Exchange. That is, as
> soon as the server recieves the e-mail, it is put in the user's folder and
> they are notified with the little envelope (and annoying sound). I think it
> works over NetBIOS.
> 
> Will it work via Qmail and a centrally-held POP3 store?

Without knowing how it really works, that's hard to say.  But if Excange 
is simply sending a notification to the user to _check_ his/her mail, then 
you would have to know how to simulate that notification from your mail 
machine.  If you could do that, then you could certainly write a simple 
script to send that notification whenever new mail arrives. 

Personally, just I have my MUA check the server every 10 minutes - most 
MUAs will check as often as 1 minute.  I don't really see much difference 
between getting email notification instantly and getting it up to 59 
seconds after it arrives.  

Eric




Eric Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Personally, just I have my MUA check the server every 10 minutes - most 
> MUAs will check as often as 1 minute.  I don't really see much difference 
> between getting email notification instantly and getting it up to 59 
> seconds after it arrives.  

Besides, the more infrequently you check mail the more efficient the
process is.  People whose clients check their email every minute waste
every minute doing email.

-Matt

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Hi,

I have setup qmail 1.03 and everything seemed to be working fine
until I realized that I didn't see any of my responses to
mailing lists @freebsd.org
I checked my ~/maillog file and found the following information:

Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.309400 starting
delivery 1331: msg 39816 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.309803 status:
local 0/10 remote 1/20
Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.310421 starting
delivery 1332: msg 39816 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.313507 status:
local 0/10 remote 2/20
Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.963682 delivery
1332: deferral:
216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./

Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.963959 status:
local 0/10 remote 1/20
Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.992467 delivery
1331: deferral:
216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./

Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.992680 status:
local 0/10 remote 0/20

Any idea what's wrong?

Thanks!
Jan Knepper



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Smartsoft, LLC
88 Petersburg Road
Petersburg, NJ 08270
U.S.A.

http://www.smartsoft.cc/
http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess

Phone : 609-628-4260
FAX   : 609-628-1267
FAX   : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/

Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch)
FAX   : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch)

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    -- Charles Forsythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>






On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 07:59:49PM -0400, Jan Knepper wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have setup qmail 1.03 and everything seemed to be working fine
> until I realized that I didn't see any of my responses to
> mailing lists @freebsd.org
> I checked my ~/maillog file and found the following information:
> 
> Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.309400 starting
> delivery 1331: msg 39816 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.309803 status:
> local 0/10 remote 1/20
> Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.310421 starting
> delivery 1332: msg 39816 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sep 26 19:49:46 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012186.313507 status:
> local 0/10 remote 2/20
> Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.963682 delivery
> 1332: deferral:
> 
>216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./
> 
> Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.963959 status:
> local 0/10 remote 1/20
> Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.992467 delivery
> 1331: deferral:
> 
>216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./
> 
> Sep 26 19:49:52 digitaldaemon qmail: 970012192.992680 status:
> local 0/10 remote 0/20
> 
> Any idea what's wrong?

Yes. You've omitted some of the log entries. A mail delivery starts with:

new msg ...
info msg ...

but you've not shown these entries.

Also, you need to show us the output of qmail-showctl and also tell us
which IP address you are sending from.

They are running postfix and it does not like either: the results of a dns
query on your forward/reverse or of the sender address or perhaps part of
what you're sending in the helo.


Regards.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yes. You've omitted some of the log entries. A mail delivery starts with:
>
> new msg ...
> info msg ...

Sep 27 00:00:00 digitaldaemon newsyslog[7108]: logfile turned over
Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.502439 new msg 39820
Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.502815 info msg 39820: bytes 1559 from 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 7115 uid 82
Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.532512 starting delivery 1365: msg 
39820 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.532814 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.533593 starting delivery 1366: msg 
39820 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.536599 status: local 0/10 remote 2/20
Sep 27 00:01:35 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027295.581988 delivery 1366: deferral:
216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./
Sep 27 00:01:35 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027295.582255 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
Sep 27 00:01:35 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027295.597965 delivery 1365: deferral:
216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./
Sep 27 00:01:35 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027295.598227 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
Sep 27 00:04:24 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027464.609906 starting delivery 1367: msg 
39728 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 27 00:04:24 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027464.610273 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
Sep 27 00:04:30 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027470.253804 delivery 1367: deferral:
216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./
Sep 27 00:04:30 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027470.254080 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

> Also, you need to show us the output of qmail-showctl

qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 81, 82, 83, 0, 84, 85, 86, 87.
group ids: 81, 82.

badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.

bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.

bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is digitaldaemon.com.

concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.

concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.

databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.

defaultdomain: (Default.) Default domain name is digitaldaemon.com.

defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is digitaldaemon.com.

doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: digitaldaemon.com.

doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.

envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is digitaldaemon.com.

helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is digitaldaemon.com.

idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is digitaldaemon.com.

localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes digitaldaemon.com.

locals:

me: My name is digitaldaemon.com.

percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.

plusdomain: (Default.) Plus domain name is digitaldaemon.com.

qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.

queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.

rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at smartsoft.ws.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at pianoprincess.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at saynoway.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at smartsoft.cc.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at digitalmilkyway.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at digitaldaemon.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at lgal.org.

morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.

morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 digitaldaemon.com.

smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.

timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.

timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.

timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.

virtualdomains:
Virtual domain: smartsoft.ws:smartsoft.ws
Virtual domain: pianoprincess.com:pianoprincess.com
Virtual domain: saynoway.com:saynoway.com
Virtual domain: smartsoft.cc:smartsoft.cc
Virtual domain: digitalmilkyway.com:digitalmilkyway.com
Virtual domain: digitaldaemon.com:digitaldaemon.com
Virtual domain: lgal.org:lgal.org

> and also tell us which IP address you are sending from.

63.105.9.34

> They are running postfix and it does not like either: the results of a dns query on 
>your forward/reverse or of the sender address or perhaps part of what
> you're sending in the helo.

Hmmm... Haven't noticed it before...

Hope this is the info you need...

Jan



--
Jan Knepper
Smartsoft, LLC
88 Petersburg Road
Petersburg, NJ 08270
U.S.A.

http://www.smartsoft.cc/
http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess

Phone : 609-628-4260
FAX   : 609-628-1267
FAX   : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/

Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch)
FAX   : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch)

In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate.
    -- Charles Forsythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>






On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 12:09:28AM -0400, Jan Knepper wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Yes. You've omitted some of the log entries. A mail delivery starts with:
> >
> > new msg ...
> > info msg ...
> 
> Sep 27 00:00:00 digitaldaemon newsyslog[7108]: logfile turned over
> Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.502439 new msg 39820
> Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.502815 info msg 39820: bytes 1559 
>from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 7115 uid 82
> Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.532512 starting delivery 1365: msg 
>39820 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.532814 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
> Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.533593 starting delivery 1366: msg 
>39820 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sep 27 00:01:29 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027289.536599 status: local 0/10 remote 2/20
> Sep 27 00:01:35 digitaldaemon qmail: 970027295.581988 delivery 1366: deferral:
> 
>216.136.204.18_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_Client_host_rejected:_cannot_find_your_hostname,_[63.105.9.34]/Giving_up_on_216.136.204.18./

Ahhh. Much better.

> > Also, you need to show us the output of qmail-showctl
> 
> qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
> user-ext delimiter: -.

Ahhh. Excellent.

> > and also tell us which IP address you are sending from.
> 
> 63.105.9.34

Ahhh. Perfect.

> 
> > They are running postfix and it does not like either: the results of a dns query 
>on your forward/reverse or of the sender address or perhaps part of what
> > you're sending in the helo.
> 
> Hmmm... Haven't noticed it before...
> 
> Hope this is the info you need...

It is indeed. It's nice to see and it makes things a lot clearer - at least in
the sense of what we can exclude.

Your qmail setup looks fine. My *suspicion* is that they have some sort of source
IP based filtering going on, or possibly enforced reverse lookup tests. I tried
that same SMTP transaction from (obviously) different IP addresses and it was
accepted just fine (I rset before DATA).

Postfix interoperates just fine with qmail so it may need contacting the people
at FreeBSD.org to ask what is going on at their end.

Actually, on looking at the Postfix docs I see that they probably have
reject_unknown_client set in their configuration, which is documented as:

        "Reject the request when the client IP address has no PTR record in
         the DNS. The unknown_client_reject_code parameter specifies the
         response code to rejected requests (default: 450)."


And your IP is in that category (thanks for telling us what it is, it made it
easy to check).


You have two choices. Get your ISP to add a PTR record for your IP(s) or convince
the folks at Freebsd.org that their config needs tweaking. It's a not uncommon
anti-UCE setting, but it's tough.


Regards.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
SNIP
> 
> > > and also tell us which IP address you are sending from.
> >
> > 63.105.9.34
> 
> Ahhh. Perfect.
> 
> >
> > > They are running postfix and it does not like either: the results of a dns query 
>on your forward/reverse or of the sender address or perhaps part of what
> > > you're sending in the helo.
> >
SNIP

Just to confirm -- Mark has probably hit the nail on the head with this
one:

root@frodo:~# dig -x 63.105.9.34

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> -x
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 4
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      34.9.105.63.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN


IMHO, any competent DNS admin should _never_, _ever_ permit _any_
address he is responsible for to be answered NXDOMAIN for a PTR record.
This is just unacceptably sloppy DNS admin. Lots of DNS admins do it,
but then again lots of DNS admins run and like M$ DNS or BIND ;).

Grrrrrr. Incompetent DNS administration at this level really yanks my
chain...

GW




        I have more than 500 users in a qmail server, wich are conected to Internet and to our Intranet, but not all of them can have Internet access. So how can I prevent some users from sending and receveing any mail to/from any host other then localhost?
 
    Thank's in advance
 
Gustavo
 




> I repeat: On host1, What Do The Logs Say? (tm) Any clues as to why
> deliveries aren't happening faster? What's the typical delay between
> receipt of a message from host2 and local delivery?

Logs...

Sep 24 08:33:23 hostA qmail: 969744803.725648 status: local 0/10 remote
19/20
Sep 24 08:33:23 host1 qmail: 969744803.726901 starting delivery
36138: msg 1384990 to remote dougb-1531@hostB

A whole heap are like this and every so often there's a few thats
successful.

> How? Your script on host1 talks SMTP directly to host2?

It must be (I think). No hosts are set as an MX

> Also, what MTA is host1 running? What is concurrencyremote on host2?
> How many qmail-remote processes do you have running while these
> messages are being delivered?

All boxes are running QMail. concurrencyremote is unset so defaults to
20. From the time I know there's messages being delivered to the time they
are finished there's nowhere near enough time for me to check how many
qmail-remote processes are running. Maybe there's something I don't know
about?

Thanks
Doug





On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 12:20:15PM +1100, Doug Balmer wrote:
> > I repeat: On host1, What Do The Logs Say? (tm) Any clues as to why
> > deliveries aren't happening faster? What's the typical delay between
> > receipt of a message from host2 and local delivery?
> 
> Logs...
> 
> Sep 24 08:33:23 hostA qmail: 969744803.725648 status: local 0/10 remote
> 19/20
> Sep 24 08:33:23 host1 qmail: 969744803.726901 starting delivery
> 36138: msg 1384990 to remote dougb-1531@hostB
> 
> A whole heap are like this and every so often there's a few thats
> successful.

Get serious Doug! How many times do people have to ask for:

a)      A complete sample of the logs, not a useless subset
b)      Unadulterated logs, not a useless cover-up

You've failed on both counts - thanks for wasting everyone's time.

If your logs are large, put them on a website and mail the URL to the list.

If you're took embarrassed to display your real logs, pay someone to sign
a non-disclosure and look at them for you.


> qmail-remote processes are running. Maybe there's something I don't know
> about?

And no one can help if you don't supply the real/complete logs.


Regards.




I've set up a couple of qmail servers to act as relays, no local accounts
are being used. They accept mail from our internal exchange server and then
relay them on, or they accept mail from the Internet and forward them on to
our exchange server. However I want them to be able to transform the From
address for any outgoing mail that is being relayed. I understand I could do
this through procmail or through the use of the mess822 suite of utils, but
to do this I'd need to pass the mail through some sort of mail injection
program. How do I do this if these servers are just acting as relays and
therefore never using any sort of local mail injection?? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Paul.





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> program. How do I do this if these servers are just acting as relays and
> therefore never using any sort of local mail injection?? 

Have a look at the qmail FAQ 5.5 or look at
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/servers.html#network-rewriting

In any case it would be better to fix the problem at the source - why 
can't you generate correct addresses in the first place?

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PLEASE turn off this bullshit when sending to mailinglists. And try to 
avoid overlong lines.

Regards, Frank






      hello  Friends 



      is there any way by which  i can safely copy  the "var/qmail/queue " 
( queued/deffered Mails)  from one mechine running  qmail-1.03 , on to
other mechine's queue /var/qmail/queue 
which is also running qmail-1.03  , 



     this may help ,in case of some major failure , where we can have
access to mechines terminal , but because of some   problems  some  or all
of the qmail deamons may not be start  sucessufully 




   Thanks & Regards 
  Prashant  










>       is there any way by which  i can safely copy  the "var/qmail/queue " 
> ( queued/deffered Mails)  from one mechine running  qmail-1.03 , on to
> other mechine's queue /var/qmail/queue 

Let the second machine accept relaying for mails from the first.
Set  :[ip-addr of second machine] in /var/qmail/control/smtproutes
on the first machine.

Then restart qmail and eventually run qmail-tcpok.

This assumes that qmail-send/qmail-remote still are workable and makes the 
whole thing kind of pointless.
Transferring the files directly may(!) be possible when using the 
queue-fix script from www.qmail.org. I never tried it.

Regards, Frank.






   hello  friends 



       

         I am running qmail-1.03  with ldap-latest-patch , on IBM AIX 4.3.3
, 
         there are around 200000+  users whose Mail attributes like mail
address , mailstore etc are defined in LDAP for which qmail sends and
receives mails,


         is there any way by which  i can send mails to all these 200000
users  in one stroke ,  is there any thing to worry ( resource limits like
memory , disk space , queue size ) about if i will have to send mails to
200000 users (local users) simultaniously   
         
         
          my ~control/concurrencylocal  and ~control/concurrencyremote   is
 as per qmail-1.03 defaults  




   Thanks & Regards 
Prashant Desai 








>        is there any way by which  i can send mails to all these 200000
> users  in one stroke 

Look for the qmail-popbull program at www.qmail.org.

Regards, Frank







    hello friends 


     is it possble to specify ip's with/without wilcards  
 rather than FQDNs and domain names  in
~control/badmailfrom  files   ,

  if its possible how can i list ips in badmailsfrom  means will i have to
seperate it by ","  or by space or new entry goes on new lines, 


    thanks & regards 
  Prashant Desai 







>      is it possble to specify ip's with/without wilcards  
>  rather than FQDNs and domain names  in
> ~control/badmailfrom  files   ,

Not with plain qmail. Blocking IP addresses can be done with tcpserver 
from the ucspi-tcp package.

> seperate it by ","  or by space or new entry goes on new lines, 

Every entry in badmailfrom has to go to a separate line.

Regards, Frank




I'm trying to do selective relaying and have setup a rule for TCP
server:

127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
213.86.7.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
:allow

then I start tcpserver using this command in the qmail-smtpd run file:

/usr/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smptp.cdb \
-u $QMAILUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1

But when It starts I get an error, 

tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 502

Any ideas where I am going wrong?

TIA,

Jon.
-- 
ICMP - The protocol that likes to go: PING!


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