qmail Digest 3 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1142
Topics (messages 49749 through 49823):
How to make fetchmail work with qmail?
49749 by: Casey Allen Shobe
49750 by: Brett Randall
49751 by: Brett Randall
49753 by: Casey Allen Shobe
49754 by: Brett Randall
49756 by: Casey Allen Shobe
49758 by: Brett Randall
49759 by: Casey Allen Shobe
49760 by: Brett Randall
49761 by: Casey Allen Shobe
49763 by: Brett Randall
49765 by: markd.bushwire.net
49766 by: Brett Randall
49767 by: markd.bushwire.net
49768 by: markd.bushwire.net
49769 by: Brett Randall
Yahoo delivery work around and patch
49752 by: Paul Dale
49770 by: markd.bushwire.net
49772 by: Paul Dale
49773 by: markd.bushwire.net
....interesting question on internet server balancing subject
49755 by: Luka Gerzic
49757 by: Brett Randall
49771 by: markd.bushwire.net
ip + hostname on outgoing mail
49762 by: Andras Kende
Help me out
49764 by: Mitul Limbani
Error codes
49774 by: Marco
more then one instance of qmail
49775 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com
49778 by: Charles Cazabon
Re: Mailbox file problems
49776 by: Rob Hines Jr.
49782 by: markd.bushwire.net
Qmail not sending to Certain Servers
49777 by: Kathleen Farber
49779 by: Ben Beuchler
49793 by: Alexander Jernejcic
49808 by: Kathleen Farber
49809 by: Ben Beuchler
49810 by: markd.bushwire.net
49811 by: Vince Vielhaber
49812 by: Andras Kende
49813 by: markd.bushwire.net
AMAVIS, others, stopping QAZ, and other "vbs" viruses?
49780 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
Slow Response from Port 25/QMail
49781 by: Mark Walsh
49784 by: Vova
49785 by: Mark Walsh
49787 by: markd.bushwire.net
49788 by: Andre Michaud
49790 by: markd.bushwire.net
49791 by: Mark Walsh
Re: Ok, so I'm stupid... :)
49783 by: David Dyer-Bennet
49789 by: Alexander Jernejcic
qmail-start dies after waking...
49786 by: "Pr�spero, Esteban"
49794 by: Alexander Jernejcic
49795 by: "Pr�spero, Esteban"
Re: multiple default routes in smtproutes
49792 by: Russell Nelson
Re: Best Winbloze Mail Client?
49796 by: Robin S. Socha
49800 by: Matt Brown
SMTP In; Viruscan; If Local then Deliver else QMQP Out
49797 by: Kevin Sawyer
49798 by: Alexander Pennace
49799 by: Kevin Sawyer
Re: Setting up an alias username
49801 by: Kevin Smith
Same alias' among domains
49802 by: jim
49814 by: Chris Johnson
html forms within messages
49803 by: Eric Dahnke
49804 by: Andy Bradford
49805 by: Eric Dahnke
49815 by: Bruno Wolff III
QMail & MRTG.
49806 by: Steve Fulton
421 out of memory (#4.3.0)
49807 by: Kevin Smith
Re: QMail & MRTG (Update).
49816 by: Steve Fulton
Virtual domains and aliases
49817 by: Aage Baardsen
trusted users
49818 by: Robi
Any recommentation re:webmail for qmail?
49819 by: Kittiwat Manosuthi
mailhost problem with qmail-ldap
49820 by: Anupam Das
help pls
49821 by: Kimberly Vher
49822 by: Johan Almqvist
Receive header:
49823 by: Peter J. Wojciechowski
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After 2 days, I think I have qmail mostly working.
However, when I try to use fetchmail: it generates this:
reading message 1 of 4 (4025 octets)
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 cshobe.myip.org ESMTP
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-cshobe.myip.org
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
BODY=7BIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
(#5.7.1)
fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address `cshobe@localhost'
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 cshobe.myip.org ESMTP
fetchmail: SMTP> HELO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 cshobe.myip.org
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<FETCHMAIL-DAEMON@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
(#5.7.1)
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
(#5.7.1)
I tried adding localhost to rcpthosts (seemed stupid), but that just made my
mails get retrieved successfully, but not delivered (they apparently vanished
since I haven't found them.
--
Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN: 1494523 / IRC: cshobe / http://cshobe.myip.org
Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
> I tried adding localhost to rcpthosts (seemed stupid), but that
> just made my mails get retrieved successfully, but not
> delivered (they apparently vanished since I haven't found them.
OK...What do the logs say when mail is delivered to user@localhost?
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Casey Allen Shobe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:14 PM
> To: qmail
> Subject: How to make fetchmail work with qmail?
>
>
> After 2 days, I think I have qmail mostly working.
>
> However, when I try to use fetchmail: it generates this:
> reading message 1 of 4 (4025 octets)
> fetchmail: SMTP< 220 cshobe.myip.org ESMTP
> fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-cshobe.myip.org
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME
> fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL
> FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> BODY=7BIT
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of
> allowed rcpthosts
> (#5.7.1)
> fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address `cshobe@localhost'
> fetchmail: SMTP< 220 cshobe.myip.org ESMTP
> fetchmail: SMTP> HELO localhost
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 cshobe.myip.org
> fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<FETCHMAIL-DAEMON@localhost>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of
> allowed rcpthosts
> (#5.7.1)
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of
> allowed rcpthosts
> (#5.7.1)
>
>
> --
> Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> UIN: 1494523 / IRC: cshobe / http://cshobe.myip.org
> Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
>
> > > I tried adding localhost to rcpthosts (seemed stupid), but that
> > > just made my mails get retrieved successfully, but not
> > > delivered (they apparently vanished since I haven't found them.
> >
> > OK...What do the logs say when mail is delivered to user@localhost?
>
> which logs where?
Um...your mail logs?
OK You haven't given any details on your config. Either /var/log/maillog or
/var/log/qmail/send/current depending on whether you are using syslog or
multilog. You know, the logs that tell you what is happening to mail on your
system? Fetchmail retrieves mail off a server, and delivers it locally using
SMTP, so you have to have an SMTP server (ie qmail) which stores its own
logs. What does YOURS say? (Following...another private e-mail)
> There's a whole bunch of these in /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current. Is this a
> problem?
>
> @4000000039d86160081d2fc4 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address
already
> used@4000000039d8616009694764 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address
> already used@4000000039d861600a9d858c tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind:
> address already used@4000000039d861600bea7fbc tcpserver: fatal: unable to
> bind: address already used@4000000039d861600d225bac tcpserver: fatal:
unable
> to bind: address already used
Yes, that is a problem. Your qmail setup is bad. Something else is trying to
steal port 80 so that qmail-smtpd (I presume...once again, no details) can't
run. What does 'ps ax' give, and what is your tcpserver line to start qmail
and any other tcpserver daemons?
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
Brett Randall wrote (on Mon, 02 Oct 2000):
> Um...your mail logs?
>
> OK You haven't given any details on your config.
I followed the "Life with Qmail" pretty closely.
> /var/log/qmail/send/current
I've only got the following:
/var/log/qmail
bash-2.04# ls
current lock smtpd state
> > There's a whole bunch of these in /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current. Is this
> > a problem?
> >
> > @4000000039d86160081d2fc4 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address
>
> Yes, that is a problem. Your qmail setup is bad. Something else is trying
> to steal port 80 so that qmail-smtpd (I presume...once again, no details)
> can't run. What does 'ps ax' give, and what is your tcpserver line to start
> qmail and any other tcpserver daemons?
I don't know how to find the tcpserver line...
the ps ax output is rather long:
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1 ? S 0:04 init
2 ? SW 0:00 [kapmd]
3 ? SW 0:01 [kswapd]
4 ? SW 0:00 [kflushd]
5 ? SW 0:00 [kupdate]
6 ? SW 0:00 [khubd]
68 ? S 0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd
70 ? S 0:00 /sbin/rpc.portmap
74 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/syslogd
77 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/klogd -c 3
79 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
81 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
83 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd
85 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd
88 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/crond -l10
90 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd -b 15 -l 1
100 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/apmd
106 ? S 0:00 /var/lib/apache/sbin/httpd
108 tty6 S 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
109 ? S 0:00 /opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon
110 ? SW 0:00 /var/lib/apache/sbin/httpd
111 ? S 0:00 /var/lib/apache/sbin/httpd
112 ? S 0:00 /var/lib/apache/sbin/httpd
113 ? S 0:00 /var/lib/apache/sbin/httpd
114 ? SW 0:00 /var/lib/apache/sbin/httpd
116 ? S 0:41 /usr/X11R6/bin/X
274 ? S 0:00 -:0
283 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /opt/kde/bin/startkde
318 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver
320 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: klauncher
322 ? S 0:01 kdeinit: kdesktop
324 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: kded
328 ? S 1:53 artsd -F 5 -S 8192 -d
334 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: kxmlrpcd
344 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: kio_uiserver
350 ? S 0:01 kdeinit: kicker
352 ? S 0:07 kdeinit: klipper
354 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: khotkeys
356 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: Running...
359 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: kwrited
360 ? S 0:00 ksmserver --restore
361 pts/0 S 0:00 /bin/cat
362 ? S 0:01 kdeinit: kwin
365 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: knotify
372 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: kcookiejar
376 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: ksirc
394 ? S 0:00 licq
399 ? S 0:00 licq
400 ? S 0:00 licq
401 ? S 0:00 licq
402 ? S 0:00 licq
408 ? S 0:01 kdeinit: konsole
409 pts/1 S 0:00 /bin/bash
410 ? R 0:04 kdeinit: konsole
411 pts/2 S 0:00 /bin/bash
415 pts/1 S 0:00 bash
420 pts/2 S 0:00 svscan
421 pts/2 S 0:00 supervise qmail-send
422 pts/2 S 0:00 supervise log
423 pts/2 S 1:33 supervise qmail-smtpd
424 pts/2 S 0:00 supervise log
426 pts/2 S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail
433 pts/2 S 0:08 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/smtpd
31549 ? S 0:16 kdeinit: konqueror
496 ? S 0:00 /var/lib/apache/sbin/httpd
8831 ? S 0:02 appletproxy --desktopfile ktimemon.desktop
--configfi19705 pts/2 S 0:00 bash
23104 pts/3 SW 0:00 /bin/bash
24149 pts/3 SW 0:00 bash
4543 pts/1 SW 0:00 less TEST.receive
31945 pts/4 SW 0:00 /bin/bash
32672 pts/4 S 0:00 bash
31389 ? S 0:49 kmail -caption KMail -icon kmail -miniicon kmail
19124 pts/5 S 0:00 /bin/bash
5632 pts/2 S 0:00 qmail-send
5634 pts/2 S 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
5635 pts/2 S 0:00 qmail-rspawn
5636 pts/2 S 0:00 qmail-clean
6970 ? S 0:00 kdeinit: kio_pop3
1745 pts/2 R 0:00 ps ax
1787 pts/2 R 0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -
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Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN: 1494523 / IRC: cshobe / http://cshobe.myip.org
Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
> I've only got the following:
> /var/log/qmail
> bash-2.04# ls
> current lock smtpd state
OK sorry I forget I use a slightly saner logging system...what does
/var/log/qmail/current say when mail is delivered to user@localhost? The ps
ax output looks fairly reasonable...nothing too weird there. The tcpserver
lines are in the init script for qmail. Since you followed life with qmail,
this is most likely in /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail if you are using RedHat or
similar (which it appears you are, with licq and kde, etc)
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
Brett Randall wrote (on Mon, 02 Oct 2000):
> > I've only got the following:
> > /var/log/qmail
> > bash-2.04# ls
> > current lock smtpd state
>
> OK sorry I forget I use a slightly saner logging system...what does
> /var/log/qmail/current say when mail is delivered to user@localhost?
@4000000039d85d91371cbde4 status: local 0/10 remote 5/20
@4000000039d85d930431537c delivery 28: success:
134.2.170.93_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_970481142_qp_23151/
@4000000039d85d9304317a8c status: local 0/10 remote 4/20
@4000000039d85d9304318644 end msg 915730
@4000000039d85d930ce162dc delivery 32: success:
134.2.170.93_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_970481142_qp_23155/
@4000000039d85d930ce189ec status: local 0/10 remote 3/20
The tcpserver
> lines are in the init script for qmail. Ahh, I just use the default script
profided on life with qmail.
I searched the file for tcpserver and the only line that matched was thi:
cdb -- rebuild the tcpserver cdb file for smtp
which I imagine isn't too useful.
Since you followed life with qmail,
> this is most likely in /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail if you are using RedHat or
> similar (which it appears you are, with licq and kde, etc)
No, Slackware. I put the qmail script in /usr/local/sbin.
--
Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN: 1494523 / IRC: cshobe / http://cshobe.myip.org
Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
> The tcpserver
> > lines are in the init script for qmail. Ahh, I just use the
> default script
> profided on life with qmail.
Doh! It's been a long day...I should have realised when you said life with
qmail that the tcpserver lines are in /var/qmail/supervise/.../run
Doesn't matter...anyway all the mail to @localhost appears to be getting
forwarded somewhere. Is localhost in /var/qmail/control/locals ? Make sure
it is there as well as rcpthosts... Also make sure there is nothing in
/var/qmail/control/smtproutes which would cause the mail to go astray...
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
Brett Randall wrote (on Mon, 02 Oct 2000):
> > The tcpserver
> >
> > > lines are in the init script for qmail. Ahh, I just use the
> >
> > default script
> > profided on life with qmail.
>
> Doh! It's been a long day...I should have realised when you said life with
> qmail that the tcpserver lines are in /var/qmail/supervise/.../run
>
> Doesn't matter...anyway all the mail to @localhost appears to be getting
> forwarded somewhere. Is localhost in /var/qmail/control/locals ? Make sure
> it is there as well as rcpthosts...
No, I didn't know it was supposed to. I will add it there now.
> Also make sure there is nothing in
> /var/qmail/control/smtproutes which would cause the mail to go astray...
I have not this file.
--
Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN: 1494523 / IRC: cshobe / http://cshobe.myip.org
Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
> > forwarded somewhere. Is localhost in /var/qmail/control/locals
> ? Make sure
> > it is there as well as rcpthosts...
>
> No, I didn't know it was supposed to. I will add it there now.
OK I think you should probably read up on qmail a bit more before you do
heaps with it. Even though life with qmail helps you set it up, you should
really read the INSTALL document that comes with qmail since it helps you
learn what each part does (even though its setup is somewhat different than
LWQ, it still contains the fundamentals). After that, read the FAQ. And have
fun!
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
Brett Randall wrote (on Mon, 02 Oct 2000):
> Doesn't matter...anyway all the mail to @localhost appears to be getting
> forwarded somewhere. Is localhost in /var/qmail/control/locals ? Make sure
> it is there as well as rcpthosts... Also make sure there is nothing in
> /var/qmail/control/smtproutes which would cause the mail to go astray...
I added the localhost as you suggested and am back to the same problem.
Here's my fetchmail output as well as the var/qmail/current log
bash-2.04$ fetchmail -v -d0
fetchmail: 5.4.0 querying pop.atl.mediaone.net (protocol POP3) at Mon, 02 Oct
2000 06:56:42 -0400 (EDT)
fetchmail: POP3< +OK tbmls01.atl.mediaone.net POP3 service (Netscape
Messaging Server 4.15 Patch 1 (built Mar 15 2000))
fetchmail: POP3> USER cshobe
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Name is a valid mailbox
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Maildrop ready
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 3 7047
fetchmail: POP3> LAST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0
3 messages for cshobe at pop.atl.mediaone.net (7047 octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK scan listing follows
fetchmail: POP3< 1 2210
fetchmail: POP3< 2 2213
fetchmail: POP3< 3 2624
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 99999999
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
reading message 1 of 3 (2210 octets)
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 cshobe.myip.org ESMTP
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-cshobe.myip.org
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go ahead
#**************fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok 970484206 qp 21520
flushed
fetchmail: POP3> DELE 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message deleted
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 2 99999999
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
reading message 2 of 3 (2213 octets)
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go ahead
#************fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok 970484206 qp 21534
flushed
fetchmail: POP3> DELE 2
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message deleted
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 3 99999999
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
reading message 3 of 3 (2624 octets)
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BODY=7BIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go ahead
#*******************fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok 970484207 qp 21573
flushed
fetchmail: POP3> DELE 3
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message deleted
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 cshobe.myip.org
fetchmail: normal termination, status 0
@4000000039d869f90d91712c status: local 0/10 remote 2/20
@4000000039d869f90eb40bb4 bounce msg 915732 qp 21603
@4000000039d869f90eb45dbc end msg 915732
@4000000039d869f90eb46974 new msg 915729
@4000000039d869f90eb4752c info msg 915729: bytes 3567 from <> qp 21603 uid
1011
@4000000039d869f90ec541f4 starting delivery 17: msg 915729 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@4000000039d869f90ec56134 status: local 0/10 remote 3/20
@4000000039d869fa0305df54 delivery 17: success:
131.193.178.181_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_970484325_qp_30850/
@4000000039d869fa03060a4c status: local 0/10 remote 2/20
@4000000039d869fa03061604 end msg 915729
@4000000039d869fa2427f94c delivery 13: success:
134.2.170.93_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_970484317_qp_10383/
@4000000039d869fa2428205c status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
@4000000039d869fa24282c14 end msg 915731
@4000000039d869fa2ca02fcc delivery 16: success:
134.2.170.93_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_970484318_qp_10385/
@4000000039d869fa2ca056dc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@4000000039d869fa2ca06294 end msg 915733
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Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN: 1494523 / IRC: cshobe / http://cshobe.myip.org
Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
OK the prob is not fetchmail, so let's just forget that...
The prob is with qmail delivering mail locally. The logs you've shown me are
missing stuff (further up in the log), about when an e-mail comes in to the
server. All I can see is e-mails going out to remote servers. Can you show
me the bit where they get queued? ie where it says from <user@domain> and on
the next line To <user@localhost>? That would help muchly...Oh by the way
are you restarting qmail after making changes? You shouldn't have to, but
just for testing's sake...And just so I don't ask heaps more questions,
could you please send the output of /var/qmail/bin/qmail-showctl.
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Casey Allen Shobe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:59 PM
> To: Brett Randall; qmail
> Subject: Re: How to make fetchmail work with qmail?
>
>
> Brett Randall wrote (on Mon, 02 Oct 2000):
> > Doesn't matter...anyway all the mail to @localhost appears to be getting
> > forwarded somewhere. Is localhost in /var/qmail/control/locals
> ? Make sure
> > it is there as well as rcpthosts... Also make sure there is nothing in
> > /var/qmail/control/smtproutes which would cause the mail to go astray...
>
> I added the localhost as you suggested and am back to the same problem.
> Here's my fetchmail output as well as the var/qmail/current log
>
> bash-2.04$ fetchmail -v -d0
> fetchmail: 5.4.0 querying pop.atl.mediaone.net (protocol POP3) at
> Mon, 02 Oct
> 2000 06:56:42 -0400 (EDT)
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK tbmls01.atl.mediaone.net POP3 service (Netscape
> Messaging Server 4.15 Patch 1 (built Mar 15 2000))
> fetchmail: POP3> USER cshobe
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Name is a valid mailbox
> fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Maildrop ready
> fetchmail: POP3> STAT
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK 3 7047
> fetchmail: POP3> LAST
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0
> 3 messages for cshobe at pop.atl.mediaone.net (7047 octets).
> fetchmail: POP3> LIST
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK scan listing follows
> fetchmail: POP3< 1 2210
> fetchmail: POP3< 2 2213
> fetchmail: POP3< 3 2624
> fetchmail: POP3< .
> fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 99999999
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK
> reading message 1 of 3 (2210 octets)
> fetchmail: SMTP< 220 cshobe.myip.org ESMTP
> fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-cshobe.myip.org
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME
> fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
> fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go ahead
> #**************fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok 970484206 qp 21520
> flushed
> fetchmail: POP3> DELE 1
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK message deleted
> fetchmail: POP3> TOP 2 99999999
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK
> reading message 2 of 3 (2213 octets)
> fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
> fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go ahead
> #************fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok 970484206 qp 21534
> flushed
> fetchmail: POP3> DELE 2
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK message deleted
> fetchmail: POP3> TOP 3 99999999
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK
> reading message 3 of 3 (2624 octets)
> fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL
> FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BODY=7BIT
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<cshobe@localhost>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
> fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
> fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go ahead
> #*******************fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok 970484207 qp 21573
> flushed
> fetchmail: POP3> DELE 3
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK message deleted
> fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK
> fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
> fetchmail: SMTP< 221 cshobe.myip.org
> fetchmail: normal termination, status 0
>
>
>
> @4000000039d869f90d91712c status: local 0/10 remote 2/20
> @4000000039d869f90eb40bb4 bounce msg 915732 qp 21603
> @4000000039d869f90eb45dbc end msg 915732
> @4000000039d869f90eb46974 new msg 915729
> @4000000039d869f90eb4752c info msg 915729: bytes 3567 from <> qp
> 21603 uid
> 1011
> @4000000039d869f90ec541f4 starting delivery 17: msg 915729 to remote
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> @4000000039d869f90ec56134 status: local 0/10 remote 3/20
> @4000000039d869fa0305df54 delivery 17: success:
> 131.193.178.181_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_9704843
> 25_qp_30850/
> @4000000039d869fa03060a4c status: local 0/10 remote 2/20
> @4000000039d869fa03061604 end msg 915729
> @4000000039d869fa2427f94c delivery 13: success:
> 134.2.170.93_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_970484317_
> qp_10383/
> @4000000039d869fa2428205c status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
> @4000000039d869fa24282c14 end msg 915731
> @4000000039d869fa2ca02fcc delivery 16: success:
> 134.2.170.93_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_970484318_
> qp_10385/
> @4000000039d869fa2ca056dc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> @4000000039d869fa2ca06294 end msg 915733
>
> --
> Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> UIN: 1494523 / IRC: cshobe / http://cshobe.myip.org
> Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
>
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 09:25:55PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > > > I tried adding localhost to rcpthosts (seemed stupid), but that
You have two issues here. One is that fetchmail is trying to deliver
to @localhost and that is not a valid domain with your current
qmail setup. You have two choices: a) change the fetchmail config
to deliver to your real domain (presumably what you have in
/var/qmail/control/me) or b) change qmail to accept localhost as a local
domain.
Which you prefer is up to you. In the former case you'll want to look
at the -D <domain>, --smtpaddress <domain> options on fetchmail or
the "is" keyword in the fetcmailrc file.
In the latter case you'll need to had 'localhost' to /var/qmail/locals
and possibly to rcpthosts (depending on what rules you have for tcpserver).
By the looks of your logs you will need to had localhost to
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts,
if the file doesn't exist, create it.
> steal port 80 so that qmail-smtpd (I presume...once again, no details) can't
Port 80? That's normally used for httpd, port 25 is normally smtp.
Regards.
> > steal port 80 so that qmail-smtpd (I presume...once again, no
> details) can't
>
> Port 80? That's normally used for httpd, port 25 is normally smtp.
Haha it is getting very late. Apologies! It's been a long one...
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 10:11:46PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> OK the prob is not fetchmail, so let's just forget that...
>
> The prob is with qmail delivering mail locally. The logs you've shown me are
> missing stuff (further up in the log), about when an e-mail comes in to the
> server. All I can see is e-mails going out to remote servers. Can you show
> me the bit where they get queued? ie where it says from <user@domain> and on
> the next line To <user@localhost>? That would help muchly...Oh by the way
> are you restarting qmail after making changes? You shouldn't have to, but
> just for testing's sake...
Quite the opposite. He will have to restart qmail-send before changes to
locals are noticed. Changes to rcpthosts are noticed by the next invocation
of qmail-smtpd and this don't require a restart of anything.
> could you please send the output of /var/qmail/bin/qmail-showctl.
Indeed. Complete unadulterated logs and that output will tell the story.
Regards.
> In the latter case you'll need to had 'localhost' to /var/qmail/locals
Yikes - typo city. You'll need to add localhost to /var/qmail/control/locals
(and restart qmail-send as noted previously).
Regards.
> Quite the opposite. He will have to restart qmail-send before changes to
> locals are noticed. Changes to rcpthosts are noticed by the next
> invocation
> of qmail-smtpd and this don't require a restart of anything.
Good point... I keep mixing up which files require a restart
> > could you please send the output of /var/qmail/bin/qmail-showctl.
>
> Indeed. Complete unadulterated logs and that output will tell the story.
Be careful what you say! I've seem some funky things happen when people
start saying 'complete logs'...I don't think cr.yp.to enjoys that trip
much...
Anyway I'm off to the land of nod I'll get back to this thread in the
morning, if it hasn't been fixed by then.
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
We've had the same problem everyone else
has with deliverying mail to Yahoo. We delviery
significant volumes of mail daily. The
result is a very full queue, and all the
remote processes taken by retries/delivery
attempts to Yahoo.
I appreciate this problem has been under
discussion but I've seen no solutions.
We needed a fast and quite pragmatic
solution.
We have taken the approach to implement
a general max remote concurrency per
domain limit. This means that if at any
time a new remote delivery process is required
the intended recipient domain is checked
against the currently 'in use' remotes.
A simple count then determines whether
there is a free remote for that domain.
If the limit is hit then the post is delayed.
This is controlled from qmail-send and
behaves exactly as if the remote concurrency
lomit had been hit.
We have found it works very well and normal
delivery has resumed. Yahoo still doesn't
get mail but all other delvieries are not
held up.
The initial patch fixes the problem but
could be improved (mainly in obtaining and
storing the recip domain in the del struct,
which I chose initially to leave well alone).
Other approaches could include to have
a separate remote domains file and check
only those, but that is a reactive approach,
and we prefer no domain to ever dominate
our queue.
Being fairly new to this forum, how
are patches generally released (we have
an internal patch of the normal form) ?
I'm happy to release both an initial patch,
which we have running live for about 5 days
in a public service 24/7 environment,
and the improved patch (in a day or two
after testing).
Regards,
Paul Dale
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.intracus.com
All views expressed are my own and do not
represent those of Intracus Ltd.
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 11:18:22AM +0100, Paul Dale wrote:
> We've had the same problem everyone else
> has with deliverying mail to Yahoo. We delviery
> significant volumes of mail daily. The
> result is a very full queue, and all the
> remote processes taken by retries/delivery
> attempts to Yahoo.
>
> I appreciate this problem has been under
> discussion but I've seen no solutions.
> We needed a fast and quite pragmatic
> solution.
Perhaps that's what Yahoo should be doing? Be that as it may...
> We have taken the approach to implement
...
> We have found it works very well and normal
> delivery has resumed. Yahoo still doesn't
> get mail but all other delvieries are not
> held up.
...there are ways to do this which don't require any patches at all.
Install a second instance of qmail which is only used to
deal with recalcitrant domains such as yahoo.com. Set the
concurrencyremote down to some suitable number on this
instance and then let it handle the deliveries. Bind this instance
to something like localhost:26 for smtp.
On your main instance of qmail place an entry in smtproutes for
yahoo.com, pointing to the second instance. Something like
yahoo.com:localhost:26
If your patch doesn't help deliver to yahoo.com, then this
solution wont help either. But it will free up the concurrencyremote
on your main qmail instance so that it can get on with delivering
to domains that have sufficient resources to handle their mail
volumes.
> Being fairly new to this forum, how
> are patches generally released (we have
> an internal patch of the normal form) ?
Sending the URL and description to the webmaster at qmail.org usually
does the trick. There is no formal location for all qmail patches and
no formal process of integrating them into qmail.
Regards.
[smtproutes solution snipped]
> If your patch doesn't help deliver to yahoo.com, then this
> solution wont help either. But it will free up the concurrencyremote
> on your main qmail instance so that it can get on with delivering
> to domains that have sufficient resources to handle their mail
> volumes.
Thanks for the info. We thought of a few forwarding solutions
but wanted to be able to cope with domains on the fly. I'm pretty
sure this one wasn't suggested though so I'll forward it to
the ops team for reference. As you point out though, we still
can't actually deliver to yahoo which is not good.
> > Being fairly new to this forum, how
> > are patches generally released (we have
> > an internal patch of the normal form) ?
>
> Sending the URL and description to the webmaster at qmail.org usually
> does the trick. There is no formal location for all qmail patches and
> no formal process of integrating them into qmail.
Ok. Thanks. I'll probably do this. The patch may be
useful to some folks.
Regards,
Paul Dale
www.intracus.com
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 12:49:13PM +0100, Paul Dale wrote:
> [smtproutes solution snipped]
>
> > If your patch doesn't help deliver to yahoo.com, then this
> > solution wont help either. But it will free up the concurrencyremote
> > on your main qmail instance so that it can get on with delivering
> > to domains that have sufficient resources to handle their mail
> > volumes.
>
> Thanks for the info. We thought of a few forwarding solutions
> but wanted to be able to cope with domains on the fly. I'm pretty
Once you have the second instance of qmail setup, the only
thing you have to do for each domain you want to deal with
is add or remove the smtproutes entry. That's about as
much "on the fly" as you can get without hueristics. But
maybe that's where your patch is headed.
Regards.
Hello qmail world!
I have one interesting question on internet server balancing subject.
Let's imagine situation with small ISP with 2 or more MTA. I made i simple
draw with 2 mx's each with uniq. ip adress, also i made i little
modification
on both servers with extra 3com 100mb/s cards and make them conected with
twisted cable (direct connection), so both servers are conected with
2 eth. cards. My questions are :
1. can i make somehow server balancing with qmail?
2. how can i force 2 server to share users and mail (incomming and outgoing)
On second question i made this little modification on extra eth. cards in
servers with local ip adresses and local route in both servers.
I'm calling out all you freelances to try out this one... ;)
-- cut here for pic ---
+------------------------------------+
| Router |
| |
+----+--------------------------+----+
| |
| |
A B
195.1.1.100 195.1.1.105
| |
| |
+----+----+ +----+----+
| | | |
| mx1 +<-------C------>+ mx2 |
| | < 10.0.0.1 | |
+---------+ 10.0.0.2 > +---------+
-- cut here for pic ---
------
D r e n i k N e t w o r k s / Y u g o s l a v i a
Luka Z. Gerzic
Graphic design, prepress, html, networking
home page: http://stinger.drenik.net
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You may like to take a look at anaconda. I'm afraid I don't know the site
for it, but do a search for anaconda and clustering and you may find what
you are looking for...
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 12:45:51PM +0200, Luka Gerzic wrote:
> on both servers with extra 3com 100mb/s cards and make them conected with
> twisted cable (direct connection), so both servers are conected with
> 2 eth. cards.
Why did you do this? Performance? Security? What's wrong with them
talking to each other on the same network as the router is connected
to (presumably they all share a single switch of some sort). What makes
you think they need to talk to each other at all?
> 1. can i make somehow server balancing with qmail?
Yes, but in general it's probably better to design your load balancing
solution before putting your network in place.
In any event, you need to be much more specific. Balancing what exactly?
Inbound SMTP? Local mail delivery? User access via POP/IMAP? Outbound queues?
In general your big question will be where you finally store the incoming
mail for local users. Whatever that storage system is, it needs to be
available to both (or all your mail systems). Typically people run a
high-availability NFS solution, such as netapp.com. In such cases,
multiple servers (such as your mx1 and mx2) don't need to send traffic
to each other at all! So there is no need to have a special network
for them.
Sometimes a much simpler solution is to partition off the different
functions. Eg, place POP access on one box and SMTP access on another.
It doesn't give you redundancy, but it does balance resources somewhat.
Regards.
Hi,
I looking for some info if its possible to put the my virtual domainame next
to my IP address
on the outgoing mail. Where is the by 208.41.208.213 part is
something like: by 208.41.208.213 (kende.com)
This is a IP based virtual webserver + qmail ......
..........
Received: from unknown (HELO andras) (208.41.208.251) by 208.41.208.213
with SMTP; 2 Oct 2000 10:56:54 -0000
.........
Thanks,
Andras Kende
Dear Friends,
I have installed qmail 1.03 and using checkpassword to authenticate my users
on the whole system and i am using qmail-pop3d as a pop server.
now my problem is i want to install sqwebmail for web based mail solutions
for a virtually hosted domain on my server which requires
courier-imap hence i installed it but in the way i got really confused,
if here i use authuserdb (which cheks password frm /etc/userdb )i have to
modify my qmail-pop3d init script to use
this as the authentication program...then wat will happen to all my other
users on
the system who are totally diffrent virtually hosted domain users.
Do i have to completly stop using checkpassword ???
or should i use authpwd (which cheks password frm /etc/passwd) as mentioned
in
sqwebmail documentation for authentication module...
so if any of u friend of mine has a solutions for this problem of mine do
reply to me asap,
Have a Great Day,
Best Regards,
Mitul Limbani
Senior Executive (Technical)
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+91 22 6254129
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Hi,
I've been asked where to find a list of the error
codes that Qmail can produce.
Anyone can address me anywhere?
Thank you
Marco
|
hello friends
i want to run more than one instance of qmail and related daemons
(qmail-smtpd, qmail-pop3d etc ) on same mechine ,
so , what i should do ?
i know only this "installing qmail twice onsame mechine with diff
"conf-home" " , is there any other thing which should be considered
while planning to run multiple qmail-instance on same mechine
thanks & regards
Prashant Desai
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i want to run more than one instance of qmail and related daemons
> (qmail-smtpd, qmail-pop3d etc ) on same mechine ,
[...]
> is there any other thing which should be considered
> while planning to run multiple qmail-instance on same mechine
Yes. qmail-smtpd, qmail-pop3d, qmail-qmqpd, and qmail-qmtpd need network
ports. You can only bind one program to each well-known port (i.e.
25 for SMTP, 110 for POP3, etc), so clients on the net at large probably
won't talk to anything but your primary installations of each of these.
Charles
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qpopper from Qualcomm, yes. When I recompiled, it was to go to a new
version. I assumed that the older version of qpop was the problem, so I
upgraded, otherwise, it's a default install (following the instructions to
do Mailbox pickup).
Actually, I don't care if we go to Maildir myself. The decision to go to
mbox was something my boss required.
Here's the end of the first message and the header and part of the body of
the second (that was appended to the first. I've blanked out the specific
email addy it was sent to, but that shouldn't matter:
--- Begin Snip ---
>
> "Okay," he says, "they're coming for Rosh Hashanah.
> Now what do we tell them for Passover?"
>
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Received: from lbmail2.listbot.com (204.71.191.24)
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Date: 29 Sep 2000 07:46:25 -0000
Message-ID: <970213585.94619.qmail@ech>
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Subject: The AIRS Mergers & IPO Report
AIRS News
THE MERGERS & IPO REPORT
September 29, 2000
This Weeks IPOs: AvantGo holds the opening day advantage EDEN finds
paradise on Wall Street and WebSideStory feels pretty, oh so pretty, for
a debut today.
This Weeks Mergers: FleetBoston acquires Summit for a mountain of stock
and cash Cisco continues its buying spree. Vovida and IPCell come into
the fold and Corning acquires Italys Pirelli for $3.4 billion.
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Please let me know if anyone has any ideas.
Rob
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 08:40:33PM -0500, Rob Hines Jr. wrote:
> > Hmm...Okay, well, I'm using QPOP 3.0.2,
>
> You mean qpopper from qualcomm?
>
> > I've even recompiled it a couple times.
>
> Did you change any config values between the recompiles or did you just
> recompile and expect the compiler would generate different code each time?
> If the former, what did you change? If the latter, why did you expect that?
>
> > When I look at the messages that are getting appended. There is a
> > normal header at the beginning, but at the end, the header of the next
> > message is prefixed with a '>' on the first line of the header. I'll see
>
> Why not show us those lines exactly? It would help. Are they, perchance lines
> that start with the string "From "?
>
> > Hope that helps. If I /have/ to, I'll go to Maildir, but I'd hate to have
> > to do that.
>
> Why is that? You might get a pleasant surprise. If your users only access
> via POP, then the change-over may be worth it.
>
> > Please let me know.
>
> One issue is whether qpopper is compiled to use the same locking method as
> qmail-local. The dot-qmail manpage explains the locking method that qmail-local
> uses.
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Here's the end of the first message and the header and part of the body of
> the second (that was appended to the first. I've blanked out the specific
> email addy it was sent to, but that shouldn't matter:
>
> --- Begin Snip ---
>
> >
> > "Okay," he says, "they're coming for Rosh Hashanah.
> > Now what do we tell them for Passover?"
> >
>
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> >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 29 14:49:31 2000
You mean this line? That's done by qpopper. What's the mailbox look like
before it's been accessed by qpopper.
Note that you can use .qmail to deliver to two mailboxes in the event
that this is difficult to arrange.
echo ./backupmbox >>.qmail
Then see if the mails are merged together by qmail or by qpopper.
Regards.
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There are certain servers that any domain on my
server can not send too. It just never is recieved. No messages bounce or
anything. Any idea's or thoughts what might be causing this?
qmail, qmailadmin, courier imap, sqwebmail, vpop
the works is installed on our server we've had no problems recently other than a
pain in the butt user over quota problem (when really they aren't) that deleting
the domain and resetting it up seems to fix.
But the inability to send to certain servers,
usually clients of mine ISP's never bounce just never get there.
Thanks,
Kathleen
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On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 09:08:46AM -0500, Kathleen Farber wrote:
> There are certain servers that any domain on my server can not send
> too. It just never is recieved. No messages bounce or anything. Any
> idea's or thoughts what might be causing this?
All together now:
What Do The Logs Say?(TM)
Really, the logs are your friends. Every message that your server has
attempted to deliver will have several log entries, one of which will
explain why the message has not been delivered. It will most likely
indicate that the message was deferred for some reason. But the logs
are very verbose about those reasons and will describe exactly why the
message was not delivered.
Ben
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hi,
sorry for that, but:
what does the logs say? (tm)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen Farber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Qmail not sending to Certain Servers
There are certain servers that any domain on my server can not send too. It just
never is recieved. No messages bounce or anything.
Any idea's or thoughts what might be causing this?
qmail, qmailadmin, courier imap, sqwebmail, vpop the works is installed on our server
we've had no problems recently other than a
pain in the butt user over quota problem (when really they aren't) that deleting the
domain and resetting it up seems to fix.
But the inability to send to certain servers, usually clients of mine ISP's never
bounce just never get there.
Thanks,
Kathleen
The logs say absolutely nothing. that's the disturbing part. The email
sends but never is recieved or bounced or nothing. Just amazes me theres
nothing reporting anywhere.
Kath
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Jernejcic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kathleen Farber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: Qmail not sending to Certain Servers
> hi,
> sorry for that, but:
> what does the logs say? (tm)
>
> ==============================================
> Alexander Jernejcic
> email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> end
>
> ==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathleen Farber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Qmail not sending to Certain Servers
>
>
> There are certain servers that any domain on my server can not send too.
It just never is recieved. No messages bounce or anything.
> Any idea's or thoughts what might be causing this?
>
> qmail, qmailadmin, courier imap, sqwebmail, vpop the works is installed on
our server we've had no problems recently other than a
> pain in the butt user over quota problem (when really they aren't) that
deleting the domain and resetting it up seems to fix.
>
> But the inability to send to certain servers, usually clients of mine
ISP's never bounce just never get there.
>
> Thanks,
> Kathleen
>
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 07:22:44PM -0500, Kathleen Farber wrote:
> The logs say absolutely nothing. that's the disturbing part. The
> email sends but never is recieved or bounced or nothing. Just amazes
> me theres nothing reporting anywhere.
OK... If you could please post actual log entries, that would be
appreciated. It eliminates a lot of questions. However, assuming we
see nothing unusual when you do get around to posting the relevant log
sections, if the last entry for a particular message was "<timestamp>
delivery <somenumber>: success: <message from remote host>" then the
message was delivered to the remote host and any problems after that are
problems on their end. You won't see that "success" message unless the
remote server has acknowledged receipt of the message.
Ben
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On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 07:22:44PM -0500, Kathleen Farber wrote:
> The logs say absolutely nothing.
Are you sure? Want to make a bet on that?
Why not give the combined expertise of this list a chance to decide
that. There may be something there that you're not "seeing".
Regards.
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Kathleen Farber wrote:
> The logs say absolutely nothing. that's the disturbing part. The email
> sends but never is recieved or bounced or nothing. Just amazes me theres
> nothing reporting anywhere.
Is this when sending from smtp, qmail-inject or both? How 'bout the
queue dir(s) permissions?
Vince.
>
> Kath
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Jernejcic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kathleen Farber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:57 PM
> Subject: RE: Qmail not sending to Certain Servers
>
>
> > hi,
> > sorry for that, but:
> > what does the logs say? (tm)
> >
> > ==============================================
> > Alexander Jernejcic
> > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> > I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> > end
> >
> > ==============================================
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kathleen Farber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Qmail not sending to Certain Servers
> >
> >
> > There are certain servers that any domain on my server can not send too.
> It just never is recieved. No messages bounce or anything.
> > Any idea's or thoughts what might be causing this?
> >
> > qmail, qmailadmin, courier imap, sqwebmail, vpop the works is installed on
> our server we've had no problems recently other than a
> > pain in the butt user over quota problem (when really they aren't) that
> deleting the domain and resetting it up seems to fix.
> >
> > But the inability to send to certain servers, usually clients of mine
> ISP's never bounce just never get there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kathleen
> >
>
>
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Something like this happened to me a few days before
I do webhosting and [EMAIL PROTECTED] was set to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
there was 2 mail from a merchant account company server and only 1 arrived
to a hotmail
inbox (but the logs was telling me forward both 2 mail OK, accepted......)
set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and all 2 was fine...
Is there anything like the server says accepted but still not delivers some
of the email???
Andras
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Qmail not sending to Certain Servers
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 07:22:44PM -0500, Kathleen Farber wrote:
> > The logs say absolutely nothing.
>
> Are you sure? Want to make a bet on that?
>
> Why not give the combined expertise of this list a chance to decide
> that. There may be something there that you're not "seeing".
>
>
> Regards.
>
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 05:43:42PM -0700, Andras Kende wrote:
>
> Something like this happened to me a few days before
>
> I do webhosting and [EMAIL PROTECTED] was set to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> there was 2 mail from a merchant account company server and only 1 arrived
> to a hotmail
> inbox (but the logs was telling me forward both 2 mail OK, accepted......)
>
> set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and all 2 was fine...
>
> Is there anything like the server says accepted but still not delivers some
> of the email???
Unless there is a bug at the other end, NO.
Show us the logs. So many times people say one thing or think one thing
when it's not the case. The logs tell the truth. People here can read
the logs.
So, show us the logs.
Regards.
Are the above virus scanners able to stop the new vbs type viruses, or
only the traditional embedded exe/com payloads?
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Most of the time, I try to send a message and it will time out. Even
attempting to Telenet to the port will not always pop right up so that I can
type helo firewall. It may take 60 seconds or a 2nd,3rd attempt to send
mail. The problem seems only to be internal, but outside the office, seems
to work well. My IP Masqurading seems to be ok since I have no trouble
getting on the internet. WHy is QMAIL so slow in responding?
>> Most of the time, I try to send a message and it will time out. Even
attempting to Telenet to the port will not always pop right up so that I
can
type helo firewall. It may take 60 seconds or a 2nd,3rd attempt to send
mail. The problem seems only to be internal, but outside the office,
seems
to work well. My IP Masqurading seems to be ok since I have no trouble
getting on the internet. WHy is QMAIL so slow in responding?
----------------------------
try to check reverse DNS, problem may be in it
A few days ago I had something like that
I guess on top of that, just noticed that I no longer have a LOG file. I
had removed the MESSAGES file to clear up space, and no file was recreated
by qmail. Was I suppose to recreate one?
-----Original Message-----
From: Vova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: re: Slow Response from Port 25/QMail
>> Most of the time, I try to send a message and it will time out. Even
attempting to Telenet to the port will not always pop right up so that I
can
type helo firewall. It may take 60 seconds or a 2nd,3rd attempt to send
mail. The problem seems only to be internal, but outside the office,
seems
to work well. My IP Masqurading seems to be ok since I have no trouble
getting on the internet. WHy is QMAIL so slow in responding?
----------------------------
try to check reverse DNS, problem may be in it
A few days ago I had something like that
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:48:41PM -0300, Mark Walsh wrote:
>
> I guess on top of that, just noticed that I no longer have a LOG file. I
> had removed the MESSAGES file to clear up space, and no file was recreated
> by qmail. Was I suppose to recreate one?
This is a question for syslogd rather than qmail. But yes, syslogd, in it's
wisdom will not create a log file if it doesn't exist. It can totally fill up
your partition once one does exist of course. All part of the byzantine
security model of syslogd.
Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: re: Slow Response from Port 25/QMail
>
>
> >> Most of the time, I try to send a message and it will time out. Even
> attempting to Telenet to the port will not always pop right up so that I
> can
> type helo firewall. It may take 60 seconds or a 2nd,3rd attempt to send
> mail. The problem seems only to be internal, but outside the office,
> seems
> to work well. My IP Masqurading seems to be ok since I have no trouble
> getting on the internet. WHy is QMAIL so slow in responding?
>
> ----------------------------
>
> try to check reverse DNS, problem may be in it
> A few days ago I had something like that
>
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:48:41PM -0300, Mark Walsh wrote:
> >
> > I guess on top of that, just noticed that I no longer have a LOG file. I
> > had removed the MESSAGES file to clear up space, and no file was recreated
> > by qmail. Was I suppose to recreate one?
>
> This is a question for syslogd rather than qmail. But yes, syslogd, in it's
> wisdom will not create a log file if it doesn't exist. It can totally fill up
> your partition once one does exist of course. All part of the byzantine
> security model of syslogd.
>
Oups, syslog recreate his log files. Just send
a SIGHUP to your syslogd process.
It is easy to rotate your logs with a script like that :
mv /var/adm/messages /sparespare/messages.<date>
kill -HUP <pid of syslogd>
compress(gzip) /sparespare/messages.<date>
> Regards.
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:41 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: re: Slow Response from Port 25/QMail
> >
> >
> > >> Most of the time, I try to send a message and it will time out. Even
> > attempting to Telenet to the port will not always pop right up so that I
> > can
> > type helo firewall. It may take 60 seconds or a 2nd,3rd attempt to send
> > mail. The problem seems only to be internal, but outside the office,
> > seems
> > to work well. My IP Masqurading seems to be ok since I have no trouble
> > getting on the internet. WHy is QMAIL so slow in responding?
> >
> > ----------------------------
> >
> > try to check reverse DNS, problem may be in it
> > A few days ago I had something like that
> >
> >
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On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:42:33PM -0400, Andre Michaud wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:48:41PM -0300, Mark Walsh wrote:
> > >
> > > I guess on top of that, just noticed that I no longer have a LOG file. I
> > > had removed the MESSAGES file to clear up space, and no file was recreated
> > > by qmail. Was I suppose to recreate one?
> >
> > This is a question for syslogd rather than qmail. But yes, syslogd, in it's
> > wisdom will not create a log file if it doesn't exist. It can totally fill up
> > your partition once one does exist of course. All part of the byzantine
> > security model of syslogd.
> >
>
> Oups, syslog recreate his log files. Just send
> a SIGHUP to your syslogd process.
If it does, it's a Linuxism (oh no, here we go again).
Regards.
Yes, restarting my syslogd did the trick. Thanks for the help.
-----Original Message-----
From: amichaud [mailto:amichaud]On Behalf Of Andre Michaud
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Qmail
Subject: Re: Slow Response from Port 25/QMail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:48:41PM -0300, Mark Walsh wrote:
> >
> > I guess on top of that, just noticed that I no longer have a LOG file.
I
> > had removed the MESSAGES file to clear up space, and no file was
recreated
> > by qmail. Was I suppose to recreate one?
>
> This is a question for syslogd rather than qmail. But yes, syslogd, in
it's
> wisdom will not create a log file if it doesn't exist. It can totally fill
up
> your partition once one does exist of course. All part of the byzantine
> security model of syslogd.
>
Oups, syslog recreate his log files. Just send
a SIGHUP to your syslogd process.
It is easy to rotate your logs with a script like that :
mv /var/adm/messages /sparespare/messages.<date>
kill -HUP <pid of syslogd>
compress(gzip) /sparespare/messages.<date>
> Regards.
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:41 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: re: Slow Response from Port 25/QMail
> >
> >
> > >> Most of the time, I try to send a message and it will time out. Even
> > attempting to Telenet to the port will not always pop right up so that I
> > can
> > type helo firewall. It may take 60 seconds or a 2nd,3rd attempt to send
> > mail. The problem seems only to be internal, but outside the office,
> > seems
> > to work well. My IP Masqurading seems to be ok since I have no trouble
> > getting on the internet. WHy is QMAIL so slow in responding?
> >
> > ----------------------------
> >
> > try to check reverse DNS, problem may be in it
> > A few days ago I had something like that
> >
> >
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Goran Blazic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 2 October 2000 at 11:32:03 +0200
> I have this problem I dont even know how to start solving...
>
> There is this mail server for a company that is online most of the time
> (18-20 hours a day), but it can happen, that the server goes offline for
> some period (dont ask, I tried, but they dont want to change it!).
> Ok, I thought, so I put that server as the primary MX, and put another as a
> lower priority MX...
Well, first, why bother? Normally a sender will retry for 3 days
before they give up; if the system is only down hours at a time, you
may be doing nobody any favors by setting up a secondary MX.
> As far as I understand this, any mail server that want to send mail to the
> primary MX will do so, if that server is available. If not, it will use a
> lower priority one.... Correct?
> Ok, but how do I get the lower priority mail server to send mail to the
> primary one when he comes online? My guess is that something like smptget*
> (whatever) is not really a sollution...
If you decide a secondary MX *is* what you need, what I did is have
all the mail for the primary delivered into a maildir, and then use
maildirsmtp to deliver it when the time is right. In my case, I
simply have cron try every 10 minutes. You could do something even
simpler, put in smtproutes a forced route to the primary for all the
domains that belong there, and the messages will just sit in the queue
on the secondary. I chose the maildir route to give me more control
on how long they were held, and when exactly they were delivered (I
can cancel the cron action before I bring the primary back up, for
example, if I want to work on it a bit before delivering the mail).
In my experience, some very small percentage of the mail will end up
at the secondary MX in normal operation (probably because of local
network and DNS situations), so you shouldn't pick a technique that
requires manual intervention to deliver the mail (or you need to check
every hour or so for accumulated mail, and trigger delivery if there
is some).
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hi,
> > Ok, but how do I get the lower priority mail server to send mail to the
> > primary one when he comes online? My guess is that something like smptget*
> > (whatever) is not really a sollution...
in addition to Brett Randall ideas just one more:
ping the server from the mx2 (a fine cron job) and do a tcpok <ip-address> and kill
-SIGALRM <pid.of.qmail-send> if ping is ok.
but i like bretts idea: just let the normal delivery schedule do its job and collect
points for getting mx1 stable.
;) a
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begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end
Hi!
I've just installed qmail 1.03 in a Solaris 2.6 server. I followed every
step from "Life with qmail" but when I try to start qmail, something goes
wrong: qmail-start daemon never starts. It's called from the run script
invoked in /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send, /var/qmail/rc which looks like:
#!/bin/sh
# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Maildir by default.
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail
I tried with a svstat and it's always attempting to start qmail-send
(qmail-start daemon), but it always fails.
Nothing is stored in /var/log/syslog, so I don't know what's really going
on.
Have you got any idea of where the problem could be? What steps performs
qmail-start when starting?
Any help would be highly appreciated!!
Thanks in advance!!
Esteban Javier Pr�spero
hi,
are the permissions ok?
i am not familiar with solaris but where does svstat log to? is there something useful
to find...
;) a
==============================================
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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end
==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pr�spero, Esteban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:06 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: qmail-start dies after waking...
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I've just installed qmail 1.03 in a Solaris 2.6 server. I followed every
> step from "Life with qmail" but when I try to start qmail, something goes
> wrong: qmail-start daemon never starts. It's called from the run script
> invoked in /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send, /var/qmail/rc which looks like:
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> # Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
> # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Maildir by default.
>
> exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail
>
>
> I tried with a svstat and it's always attempting to start qmail-send
> (qmail-start daemon), but it always fails.
>
> Nothing is stored in /var/log/syslog, so I don't know what's really going
> on.
>
> Have you got any idea of where the problem could be? What steps performs
> qmail-start when starting?
>
> Any help would be highly appreciated!!
>
> Thanks in advance!!
>
> Esteban Javier Pr�spero
>
>
Well, i traced qmail-start and found that /var/qmail must have executable
permissions. I changed it to 755 and it worked out!
Thanks,
Esteban Javier Pr�spero
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Jernejcic [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: qmail-start dies after waking...
>
> hi,
> are the permissions ok?
> i am not familiar with solaris but where does svstat log to? is there
> something useful to find...
>
> ;) a
>
> ==============================================
> Alexander Jernejcic
> email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> end
>
> ==============================================
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pr�spero, Esteban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:06 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: qmail-start dies after waking...
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I've just installed qmail 1.03 in a Solaris 2.6 server. I followed every
> > step from "Life with qmail" but when I try to start qmail, something
> goes
> > wrong: qmail-start daemon never starts. It's called from the run script
> > invoked in /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send, /var/qmail/rc which looks
> like:
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> >
> > # Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
> > # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Maildir by default.
> >
> > exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger
> qmail
> >
> >
> > I tried with a svstat and it's always attempting to start qmail-send
> > (qmail-start daemon), but it always fails.
> >
> > Nothing is stored in /var/log/syslog, so I don't know what's really
> going
> > on.
> >
> > Have you got any idea of where the problem could be? What steps performs
> > qmail-start when starting?
> >
> > Any help would be highly appreciated!!
> >
> > Thanks in advance!!
> >
> > Esteban Javier Pr�spero
> >
> >
O'Yang Kai writes:
> I'm trying to increase the robustness of our qmail environment by setting up
> multiple default routes in control/smtproutes such as:
> ...
> :hub1.company.com
> :hub2.company.com
>
> The problem is that the emails will only route to hub1 and never to hub2.
> Before I try to implement round robin DNS or lbnamed, is there any way to
> set up in qmail so that it will automatically fall over to hub2 if hub1
> fails, or do a random choice between hub1/2?
Well yeah; using MX records. If you need private MX records, you
should be using split DNS. smtproutes is really only for overriding
somebody *else*'s DNS.
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* Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OK...I've had enuf of Outlook. What is the best, most extensible
> Winbloze mail client?
Gnus. http://www.gnus.org/. Groks maildir, scores like anything, has
regexps for splitting and does PGP like a charm. Among many other
things. On the downside, it's a hell of a beast to set up. Not for the
weak.
Oh yeah... it also fixes broken citations easily, threads properly and
lets you score on message bodies, too.
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"Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Gnus. http://www.gnus.org/. Groks maildir, scores like anything, has
> regexps for splitting and does PGP like a charm. Among many other
> things. On the downside, it's a hell of a beast to set up. Not for the
> weak.
To be fair on Gnus, Gnus itself is not the hard part of the learning
curve. It's the fact that it's an Emacs subsystem, and for non Emacs
users, requires familiarity with Emacs before it is usable.
Configuring gnus for basic operation is fairly straightforward if you
already know Emacs quite well. The difficulty lies in not being
comfortable with editing emacs lisp files, even simple ones. My .gnus
is fairly short excluding comments; if you don't need auto splitting
into multiple email groups, it can be even shorter. All you really
need to use maildir mail:
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")))
(setq mail-sources '((maildir)))
and possibly something to fix up your source address. The Gnus
complexity is very low; it's the Emacs part that's harder.
The other thing that's hard is adjusting to reading your mail with a
newsreader. Once you get used to it, it makes sense, but it takes a
little getting used to.
-Matt
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I've been using Qmail for quite some time now (a few years) so I know my way
around it fairly well. We've started scanning everything for viruses. With
over 5,000 local mailboxes, it's a big job. So, we want to offload it.
Here's what I want to happen:
- Message comes in via SMTP.
- Message gets scanned for viruses...blah blah blah.
- Message get tossed into the queue.
- If message is for a local user (@thisFQDN), deliver it. Otherwise,
forward it to a specified (static) host via QMQP (not SMTP).
The forwarding via QMQP is where I need a little direction. I don't ever
want mail leaving this box via SMTP. Please don't ask me why...that's not
important. :-)
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On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 03:28:22PM -0500, Kevin Sawyer wrote:
> I've been using Qmail for quite some time now (a few years) so I know my way
> around it fairly well. We've started scanning everything for viruses. With
> over 5,000 local mailboxes, it's a big job. So, we want to offload it.
> Here's what I want to happen:
>
> - Message comes in via SMTP.
> - Message gets scanned for viruses...blah blah blah.
> - Message get tossed into the queue.
> - If message is for a local user (@thisFQDN), deliver it. Otherwise,
> forward it to a specified (static) host via QMQP (not SMTP).
>
> The forwarding via QMQP is where I need a little direction. I don't ever
> want mail leaving this box via SMTP. Please don't ask me why...that's not
> important. :-)
Patch qmail-smtpd. Have it invoke qmail-queue for local messages,
qmail-qmqpc for remote messages.
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> On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 03:28:22PM -0500, Kevin Sawyer wrote:
> > I've been using Qmail for quite some time now (a few years)
> so I know my way
> > around it fairly well. We've started scanning everything
> for viruses. With
> > over 5,000 local mailboxes, it's a big job. So, we want to
> offload it.
> > Here's what I want to happen:
> >
> > - Message comes in via SMTP.
> > - Message gets scanned for viruses...blah blah blah.
> > - Message get tossed into the queue.
> > - If message is for a local user (@thisFQDN), deliver it.
> Otherwise,
> > forward it to a specified (static) host via QMQP (not SMTP).
> >
> > The forwarding via QMQP is where I need a little direction.
> I don't ever
> > want mail leaving this box via SMTP. Please don't ask me
> why...that's not
> > important. :-)
>
> Patch qmail-smtpd. Have it invoke qmail-queue for local messages,
> qmail-qmqpc for remote messages.
>
Actually, I just discovered Bruce Guenter's nullmailer. From the main qmail
web page:
Bruce Guenter wrote his own implementation of the mini-qmail idea, only his
(nullmailer) has a queue for more reliablity. It supports SMTP and QMQP, so
it's a drop-in replacement for qmail-qmqpc.
I believe it's exactly what I need here... Woohoo!
--Kevin
Hi Magnus,
I did exactly as you said and it will not forward onto the username lemon.
Inside the file .qmail-info I have the line :
|forward lemon
And did the touch .qmail-info and tried touch ~lemon/.qmail-info
Nothing worked, any ideas?
Many thanks,
Kevin Smith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Bodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "qmail list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up an alias username
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2000 at 06:21:20PM +0100, Kevin Smith wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I want have a domain which is owned by the user, lemon.
>
> What does your virtualdomains file entry look like?
>
> domain.com:lemon-domain
>
> or
>
> domain.com:lemon
>
> ?
>
>
> > How do I set-up an alias of say, info, which is to be sent to the same
> > domain that, lemon, owns without setting-up a unix account?
> >
> > Is it something to do with dropping a .qmail-info file into the qmail
> > directory of lemon? If so, exactly what commands do I use to create
this
> > alias file?
>
> Yes. If your virtualdomains-entry looks like "domain.com:lemon"
>
> touch ~lemon/.qmail-info
>
>
> /magnus
>
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>
Hi guys,
Here's my situation, I have 3 domains I'm doing email for. How can I
distinguish what user gets the mail when it comes in under a common name
like root, webmaster, etc. Do I continue using aliases?
In my /var/qmail/alias/ directory, I have the file .qmail-webmaster with my
initial user name there. But as I start adding domains, I need to
distingush who gets it according to the domain. When I only had one domain,
it went to user DillWeed all the time, which was fine. Now that there are
more than one domain, I have to change something.
I was looking at virtualdomains, but I'm not sure I need it since the last
part of man qmail-send says this: qmail-send handles virtualdomains after
locals: if a domain is listed in locals, virtualdomains does not apply.
And all my domains are listed in locals.
Thanks,
Jim T.
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 05:39:14PM -0400, jim wrote:
> Here's my situation, I have 3 domains I'm doing email for. How can I
> distinguish what user gets the mail when it comes in under a common name
> like root, webmaster, etc. Do I continue using aliases?
>
> In my /var/qmail/alias/ directory, I have the file .qmail-webmaster with my
> initial user name there. But as I start adding domains, I need to
> distingush who gets it according to the domain. When I only had one domain,
> it went to user DillWeed all the time, which was fine. Now that there are
> more than one domain, I have to change something.
>
> I was looking at virtualdomains, but I'm not sure I need it since the last
> part of man qmail-send says this: qmail-send handles virtualdomains after
> locals: if a domain is listed in locals, virtualdomains does not apply.
> And all my domains are listed in locals.
So you take some domains out of locals and make them virtual. Virtual domains
are what you need.
Chris
we can send html formatted messages. can we send an html email which
includes a form or link that when submitted would contact a web server
and refresh the original html message with new cgi generated content?
thx - eric
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:22:51 -0300, Eric Dahnke wrote:
> we can send html formatted messages. can we send an html email which
> includes a form or link that when submitted would contact a web server
> and refresh the original html message with new cgi generated content?
You sure can... I don't really see what that has to do with qmail
though---in fact, this is probably not the best place to ask about HTML
email and automatically updating CGI via email... :-)
Andy
we can send html formatted messages. can we send an html email which
includes a form or link that when submitted would contact a web server
and refresh the original html message with new cgi generated content?
thx - eric
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 06:22:51PM -0300,
Eric Dahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> we can send html formatted messages. can we send an html email which
> includes a form or link that when submitted would contact a web server
> and refresh the original html message with new cgi generated content?
>
Only for people stupid enough to let you do it. For privacy and security
the web browser used to read an email message should ONLY access parts
of the mail message. No images, style sheets, or included objects should
be retrieved from any web servers. All scripting languages should also
be disabled as well.
First, let me preface with saying I've played with the 2 Qmail/MRTG scripts
I know of, read the (little) documentation for both, re-installed, jigged,
prayed and even gone to the main MRTG site looking for anything that could
help.. Nothing has. I even e-mailed Sean Truman (author of the latest
QMail/MRTG script) to no avail.
My problem is this: I can get reports on concurrency, but nothing else.
When I run Truman's program manually on my logs, I only get back two
zeroes - as if there was no calculation done at all. Funny thing is, there
is a noticable delay as the program reads the log file.
For example, to monitor throughput, I use the command line:
`/usr/local/bin/qmail-mrtg -4 < /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current`
As you can see, it points to my smtpd log. Yes, I noticed that in his
original config it points to a log under /qmail-send/ instead of /smtpd/,
but I don't have one.
Any help would be appreciated -- even just to enlighten me further on qmail
logs -- so maybe, just maybe, I'll write my own.
Steve.
Greetings,
Here is the conversation between my outlook express 5 and Qmail (dns +
smtp-auth patches applied):
Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
SMTP Log started at 10/02/2000 15:21:37
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 220 xxx.xxxx.com ESMTP
SMTP: 15:22:08 [tx] EHLO test1
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 250-xxx.xxxx.com
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 250-PIPELINING
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 250 8BITMIME
SMTP: 15:22:08 [tx] AUTH LOGIN
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 334 VXNlc5hbWU6
SMTP: 15:22:08 [tx] xxxxxxx=
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 334 UGFzcdvcmQ6
SMTP: 15:22:08 [tx] xxxxxxx=
SMTP: 15:22:08 [rx] 421 out of memory (#4.3.0)
Qmail is working great except for smtp-auth. POP works and Qmail is
receiving mail for me. The system is FreeBSD 4.0. The box is pretty much
idle. Here is the output for the 'top' command:
last pid: 7657; load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 up 0+18:18:09
16:34:22
39 processes: 1 running, 38 sleeping
CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.4% interrupt, 99.2%
idle
Mem: 13M Active, 31M Inact, 12M Wired, 4256K Cache, 6928K Buf, 408K Free
Swap: 193M Total, 193M Free
PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND
7475 root 2 0 3608K 1476K select 0:06 0.00% 0.00% smbd
105 root 2 0 1812K 968K select 0:04 0.00% 0.00% sshd
147 root 2 0 1784K 1236K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% httpd
198 root 2 0 1748K 984K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% nmbd
165 root 2 0 884K 536K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% atalkd
100 root 2 0 1116K 812K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% inetd
78 root 2 0 876K 520K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd
7651 root 2 0 1912K 1176K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd
102 root 10 0 928K 636K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron
7657 jeff 28 0 1836K 1016K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top
178 root 2 0 1756K 876K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% afpd
7107 qmails 2 0 880K 452K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00%
qmail-send
7652 jeff 18 0 528K 320K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ksh
195 root 2 0 3168K 1128K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% smbd
204 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
209 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
211 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
207 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
208 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
210 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
205 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
206 root 3 0 892K 548K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty
7108 qmaill -6 0 836K 448K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% splogger
166 nobody 2 0 1844K 1272K accept 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd
169 nobody 2 0 1844K 1272K accept 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd
170 nobody 2 0 1832K 1268K accept 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd
7109 root 2 0 836K 380K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00%
qmail-lspaw
167 nobody 2 0 1832K 1268K accept 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd
7111 qmailq -6 0 824K 392K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00%
qmail-clean
154 root 2 0 1228K 768K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% lpd
I am open to any ideas. I didn't use the FreeBSD port. I went out myself
and got the source and applied the patches myself.
Thanks
Kevin
I managed to solve my problems with Sean Truman's qmail-mrtg script and I
thought I'd share it..
Simply, his script cannot read from the /var/log/qmail/current file because
I was using SPLOGGER to dump it, via syslog, to /var/log/mail .. That
simple.
So .. if you want to use Sean Truman's script, make sure you are NOT using
splogger! Just delete "splogger qmail" from the rc file.. and the
appropriate info will be dumped to the /var/log/qmail/current file.
Steve.
|
Hello!
I have questions about qmail and
aliases.
I have several different domains hosted by one
machine with one ip. The problem is to have
qmail distinguish them from eachother when
receiving mail.
My problem arises when i want to have the same
'user' (alias) to different domain and
then routed to
different users using aliases for instance.
Is this possible with
qmail?
So my question, is it possible to add hostnames to
.qmail alias files? For instance,
.qmail-myuser.money.net ? Or specify the
domain inside the alias file?
Aage
Very happy for any answer that can lead to a
solution.. :)
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I'm trying to install neomail, a web mail access perl program. It suggests
the need for a trusted user to be added, so that files owned by 'mail' may
be read by 'www-data' in my case. Is there a way to do that? I couldn't find
it in the docs.
Any suggestions?
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Any recommendation for the best web-mail program that is most suitable
for qmail/vpopmail (apart from sqwebmail from inter7) ?
thanks
kittiwat
Hi,
I have perfectly integrated qmail with ldap in my HP-L class system.
I am having a problem with the mailhost attribute which is stored in ldap to
indentify where to transfer the user's mail.
I have five (phisically seprated) locations where I want to transfer my user's
mails. But the qmail is not making use of the mailhost attribute rather it is
transfering all the mails to the location which I have defined in MX entry of
DNS.
Though I got a note in the qmail-ldap patch (Date: 05 Jan 2000 09:59:01)
which says:
mailHost
- -
On which qmail server the messagestore of this user is located
Example: qmail3.nrg4u.com
Note: Currently not in use. Will be used in the future for qmail-ldap
@@ -387,13 +377,11 @@
on the homeserver of the user
Is this mailhost attribute still unimplemented in the latest qmail-ldap
patch?? :-(
Can anybody help me.
Thanking u in anticipation.
Kozac
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Please help me in my problem. When I use sendmail i can check the incoming
mails of my user in /var/spool/mail using elm -f user. How can i do this in
qmail so that i can monitor or track the sender and the dates when the
message receive.
In short is there an elm -f user in qmail?
thank you!
Kimberly,
On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 05:17:45PM +0000, Kimberly Vher wrote:
> Please help me in my problem. When I use sendmail i can check the incoming
> mails of my user in /var/spool/mail using elm -f user. How can i do this in
> qmail so that i can monitor or track the sender and the dates when the
> message receive.
> In short is there an elm -f user in qmail?
This hasn't got too much to do with qmail, but with you mail client (elm
or what-have-you). I'd recommend mutt (especially as you use elm which
is mutt's default key bindings [no MUA war please]).
In mutt, you'd type "mutt -R -f /home/user/Maildir/" or whereever the user
has his maildir (I often run
"mutt -f /var/qmail/domains/luna.lu.se/postmaster" for example). Observe
the -R switch which means read-only.
Two gotchas: the mail client (mutt or other) must read maildirs and you
must be some kind of superuser (root or other) to read other peoples
maildirs. Observe also that this is considered unethical by many
(including me).
Short answer: get a Maildir-capable mail client and give it the Maildir
location on the command-line.
-Johan
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Hello,
I'm trying to get rid of the sending host header information. Pretty much I do not
want people to know what client computer/ip address is sending the mail message. For
instance can I tell qmail not to include "from unknown (HELO yeah) (209.xxx.xxx.xxx)",
but keep "mail.mydomain.com" in the header?
Received: (qmail 31314 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2000 09:12:41 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO yeah) (209.xxx.xxx.xxx)
by mail.mydomain.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2000 09:12:41 -0000
So far I removed all references to remoteip in the source (I know not a good idea, but
I figured once I hit the right switch I should be able to clean it.), and nothing
happened. I also found a post
(http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/08/msg01173.html) which is
similar in what I want to do, but making changes according to the post did nothing to
the email headers.
The server was installed following the LWQ document.
Thanks in advance.
Peter Wojciechowski
