qmail Digest 8 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1147

Topics (messages 50149 through 50176):

Re: qmail-ldap-help
        50149 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Re: 4 messages stuck in Q - how can I rm them?
        50150 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Re: Configuration/user setup issues- can't find user
        50151 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Pager notification of new mail
        50152 by: jim
        50153 by: Olivier M.
        50154 by: Vince Vielhaber
        50155 by: Andy Bradford
        50163 by: jim
        50169 by: Olivier M.
        50170 by: Vince Vielhaber
        50174 by: jim

Re: qmail list reply-to
        50156 by: Russell Nelson
        50157 by: Neil Blakey-Milner
        50158 by: Russell Nelson
        50159 by: Charles McLagan
        50160 by: Neil Blakey-Milner
        50164 by: Russell Nelson
        50166 by: Ronny Haryanto
        50167 by: Andy Bradford
        50173 by: Raul Miller

ORBS
        50161 by: Mark Walsh
        50168 by: Brett Randall

benchmark programs
        50162 by: Frans Haarman
        50175 by: Bruce Guenter

Re: tcpserver
        50165 by: jim

Re: Help with my girlfriend?
        50171 by: Scott D. Yelich

Can't switch to queue directory.
        50172 by: Barrie Bremner

Re: Volunteers for a multilog patch?
        50176 by: Peter van Dijk

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hi,
first of all: nice logo but IMHO a senseless waste of bandwith...
and now for your question: what are the permissions of the ~control/ldapserver and who 
owns it? most troubles around seem to raise
out of wrong ownership and file permissions. be so kind and have a look or post a ls 
-l.

;) a

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-----Original Message-----
From: suresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: qmail-ldap-help




Hi
I am trying to install ldap-qmail.Can anybody tell me what this error means
(i have vreated the ldapserver file and ldap is working)


Oct  7 11:44:52 sunmailjol qmail: [ID 748625 mail.alert] 970919092.654456 alert:
 cannot start qmail-lspawn or it had an error! Check if ~control/ldapserver exis
ts.


Suresh



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hi mark,
nice and complete post (with logs) ;)
for me it seems, that a local progy (echo to:marc | qmail-injector) or a bounce has 
generated these mails since the machines name
 a asume peppo is the mailers hostname) is in the domains part.
what is in your ~/alias/.qmail-postmaster and mailer-daemon files - something like 
"&marc"?

may be i am barking up the wrong tree, but it could be worth a check.

;) a

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Knoop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: 4 messages stuck in Q - how can I rm them?
>
>
>
> Hi folks.
>
> It seems that I have 4 message stuck in the queue, and believe it or not,
> the *logs* may show why!  ;)
>
> ****Log Excerpt
> 2000-10-06 16:29:31.137609500 starting delivery 29: msg 642823 to local
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2000-10-06 16:29:31.137772500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/175
> 2000-10-06 16:29:31.145975500 delivery 29: deferral:
> Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/
> 2000-10-06 16:29:31.146120500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/175
> ****
>
> Where as a successful entry reads:
> 2000-10-06 15:35:23.162512500 starting delivery 22: msg 642827 to local
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> Failing message doesn't have the domain name first.
>
> I'm not sure what generated those 4 messages, but I'd guess that it must
> have been another service running on the local machine (as qmail wouldn't
> accept a message that's not in my list, right?).
>
> Any thoughts?  I'd like to read the messages (just in case it was something
> important), but I am fine by deleting it (unless it happens again).
>
> TIA,
>
> ../mk - w. logs!  ;)
>





hi,

>... and the instructions for setting up multiple pop users under one userid. 
> ...
> What you prolly need is:
> 
> branaghgroup.com:alias-branaghgroup:com
> 
> then the alias user will control that domain.
> 
> Now you can set up the dot-qmail file ~alias/.qmail-branaghgroup:com-barney:
> 
> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
nope, not at all. with http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.txt
you do not need the alias user... (and that is what he is using)

> > control/locals looks just like above minus the last line.
good reading of single-uid-howto

> 
>=branaghgroup-com-barley:popuser:516:516:/var/qmail/popboxes/branaghgroup-com/barley:::
> .

yes, the single dot in the last line of assign is really essential

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Howdy guys,

I want to send a pager notification whenever new mail that has entered my
inbox.  To page someone with my pager is:
<areacodephonenumber>@paging.acswireless.com.  The alphanumeric text on my
pager would say something like, "You have a new email message!" whenever I
got a new message in my inbox.  What's the best way to do this?





On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 12:22:34PM -0400, jim wrote:
> Howdy guys,
> 
> I want to send a pager notification whenever new mail that has entered my
> inbox.  To page someone with my pager is:
> <areacodephonenumber>@paging.acswireless.com.  The alphanumeric text on my
> pager would say something like, "You have a new email message!" whenever I
> got a new message in my inbox.  What's the best way to do this?

add 
| sendmsg.pl
to your .qmail file,
and program sendmsg.pl so that it send you the message you want...

I use that for sms : for each mail, I get 2 sms with the first 300 chars
of the mail (compressed: without spaces, etc).

Regards,
Olivier
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PGP signature





On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, jim wrote:

> Howdy guys,
> 
> I want to send a pager notification whenever new mail that has entered my
> inbox.  To page someone with my pager is:
> <areacodephonenumber>@paging.acswireless.com.  The alphanumeric text on my
> pager would say something like, "You have a new email message!" whenever I
> got a new message in my inbox.  What's the best way to do this?

In your .qmail put:

|echo "" | mailsubj "You have a new email message!" 
|<areacodephonenumber>@paging.acswireless.com

mailsubj should be in your /var/qmail/bin directory

Vince.
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Thus said "jim" on Sat, 07 Oct 2000 12:22:34 EDT:

> I want to send a pager notification whenever new mail that has entered my
> inbox.  To page someone with my pager is:
> <areacodephonenumber>@paging.acswireless.com.  The alphanumeric text on my
> pager would say something like, "You have a new email message!" whenever I
> got a new message in my inbox.  What's the best way to do this?

I do something like the following which is all on one line except for 
the Maildir delivery.

| if grep -i "^$SENDER" $HOME/.qmailallowed > /dev/null; then sed -n -f 
|$HOME/bin/mail2page.sed | qmail-inject -f${SENDER} <number>@page.nextel.com; exit 0; 
|else echo "False alarm"; exit 100; fi
./Maildir/

This allows you to somewhat control which senders will cause your pager 
to be run, and it only sends the Subject of the message that they are 
sending and not the entire message.  Finally, it will deliver a copy of 
the original email to your mail box.

Here are the contents of mail2page.sed:

/^From:/p
/^Subject:/p

Andy
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Thanks guys for your input and help...  Vince, I'm using what you gave me
for now, works great.

I want to study and understand that string of code that Andy gave before I
use it.  Oliver, you attatched a .dat file with nothing much in it.

Jim





On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:25:33PM -0400, jim wrote:
> I want to study and understand that string of code that Andy gave before I
> use it.  Oliver, you attatched a .dat file with nothing much in it.

well, it's not my fault if outlook doesn't support attached pgp signatures :)


Here is the kind of program you can use: (just to give you an idea:
its not perfect, but at least it works :)

#!/usr/bin/perl

$date = localtime;  # e.g "Tue Oct 14 14:22:56 1997"
$nummer = $ARGV[0]; chomp $nummer;
$recipient = $nummer . "\@sms.ip-plus.net";
$mailprog = '/usr/lib/sendmail';
@text = <STDIN>;

#$msg = "Datum: $date\n";
$msg = ""; $from = "s\@m.s";
$mailtext = 0;

foreach $line (@text) {

        if ($line =~ /From:/ || $line =~ /Subject:/ || $mailtext) {

                if ($line =~ /^From:/) {
                        $tmpfrom = substr($line,6); chomp $tmpfrom;
                        $txtfrom = "\n[F:" . $tmpfrom . "]\n";

                        }
                if ($line =~ /^Subject:/) {
                        $tmpsubj = substr($line,9); chomp $tmpsubj;
                        }
                $msg .= $line;
        }

chomp $line;

if ($line eq "" && $mailtext == 0) { 
$mailtext = 1; 
$msg .= $txtfrom;
 }
}

open (MAIL, "|$mailprog $recipient") || die "Can't open $mailprog!\n";
print MAIL "From: $from\n";
print MAIL <<END1;
$msg
END1
close (MAIL);




and with something like that in the .qmail file :

| /home/8304/progs/sms.pl 09828378741

Regards,
Olivier
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, jim wrote:

> Thanks guys for your input and help...  Vince, I'm using what you gave me
> for now, works great.
> 
> I want to study and understand that string of code that Andy gave before I
> use it.  Oliver, you attatched a .dat file with nothing much in it.

The one Andy sent gave you control over what messages go to your pager
(based on who sent it) and sent the message subject to the pager.

Vince.
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aaaahhh....I see said the blindman.
I'll have to take a look at this PGP stuff...

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:03 PM
To: jim
Subject: RE: Pager notification of new mail


> use it.  Oliver, you attatched a .dat file with nothing much in it.

No no no...that dat file is just his PGP sig...so you can know that the
e-mail really came from him...dat all

/BR


Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/





Robin S. Socha writes:
 > * Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > > Bob Ross writes:
 > 
 > >> I noticed that also. Some just select reply to all, and it will go
 > >> both places, but then the person you're replying to will get two of
 > >> the same email every time.
 > 
 > > Your MUA needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.
 > 
 > Actually, he needs:
 > 
 > ,----[ Gnus manual ]
 > | `broken-reply-to'
 > |      Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To'
 > |      headers in this group are to be ignored.  This can be useful if
 > |      you're reading a mailing list group where the listserv has inserted
 > |      `Reply-To' headers that point back to the listserv itself.  This is
 > |      broken behavior.  So there!
 > `----

No, actually he needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.  Think about it.

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On Sat 2000-10-07 (15:41), Russell Nelson wrote:
>  > > Your MUA needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.
>  > 
>  > Actually, he needs:
>  > 
>  > ,----[ Gnus manual ]
>  > | `broken-reply-to'
>  > |      Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To'
>  > |      headers in this group are to be ignored.  This can be useful if
>  > |      you're reading a mailing list group where the listserv has inserted
>  > |      `Reply-To' headers that point back to the listserv itself.  This is
>  > |      broken behavior.  So there!
>  > `----
> 
> No, actually he needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.  Think about it.

I'll bite.  What am I missing as to how the MUA knows which people are
on the list, and which people aren't on the list, out of the people in
the To and Cc lines?

Neil
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Sunesi Clinical Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Neil Blakey-Milner writes:
 > On Sat 2000-10-07 (15:41), Russell Nelson wrote:
 > >  > > Your MUA needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.
 > >  > 
 > >  > Actually, he needs:
 > >  > 
 > >  > ,----[ Gnus manual ]
 > >  > | `broken-reply-to'
 > >  > |      Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To'
 > >  > |      headers in this group are to be ignored.  This can be useful if
 > >  > |      you're reading a mailing list group where the listserv has inserted
 > >  > |      `Reply-To' headers that point back to the listserv itself.  This is
 > >  > |      broken behavior.  So there!
 > >  > `----
 > > 
 > > No, actually he needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.  Think about it.
 > 
 > I'll bite.  What am I missing as to how the MUA knows which people are
 > on the list, and which people aren't on the list, out of the people in
 > the To and Cc lines?

Why would there ever be anybody on the list who is also in the
recipient list?

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Because, just like with this email, I hit "reply all" and
Microsoft Outlook puts your address and the list address
into the To: field.

Netscape puts your address in To: and the list in Cc: -
same problem.

And it's annoying to get duplicate messages....

Now, one can trash Microsoft, or Netscape, or whoever
makes the MUA, but the bottom line is, this is how they
work and this is how 99% of users would use them even
if there were a reply-to-recipient choice.

So the question is: is there a sensible (or kludgey, hack,
yet sufficient) way to cope with it today?

ccm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: qmail list reply-to


> Neil Blakey-Milner writes:
>  > On Sat 2000-10-07 (15:41), Russell Nelson wrote:
>  > >  > > Your MUA needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Actually, he needs:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > ,----[ Gnus manual ]
>  > >  > | `broken-reply-to'
>  > >  > |      Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that
`Reply-To'
>  > >  > |      headers in this group are to be ignored.  This can be
useful if
>  > >  > |      you're reading a mailing list group where the listserv has
inserted
>  > >  > |      `Reply-To' headers that point back to the listserv itself.
This is
>  > >  > |      broken behavior.  So there!
>  > >  > `----
>  > >
>  > > No, actually he needs a "Reply to Recipient" command.  Think about
it.
>  >
>  > I'll bite.  What am I missing as to how the MUA knows which people are
>  > on the list, and which people aren't on the list, out of the people in
>  > the To and Cc lines?
>
> Why would there ever be anybody on the list who is also in the
> recipient list?
>
> --
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com | A hate crime
makes
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | it illegal to think
certain
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | thoughts.  The crime is
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | itself already a crime.
>





On Sat 2000-10-07 (16:15), Russell Nelson wrote:
>  > I'll bite.  What am I missing as to how the MUA knows which people are
>  > on the list, and which people aren't on the list, out of the people in
>  > the To and Cc lines?
> 
> Why would there ever be anybody on the list who is also in the
> recipient list?

Oh, that's pretty cunning, but it only works on closed lists properly,
and if everyone in existence used that ability, and if there was a way
to export via headers whether that behaviour is preferred on the list.
(actually, I could be wrong, but here's my thinking)

On non-closed lists, there're two ways off the top of my head for this
to cause problems:

a) something is sent to one or more lists and also one or more other
people,

b) something is sent to a list by someone not on the list.

With 'a', you have an announcement sent to a list and another person
(X), and that person using reply, sending to the initial sender (Z) and
the list.  Subsequently, that person (the initial sender) will always
get two copies of the thread, since he was specifically named in the
reply, since the replier (X) didn't know it was a list post.  

This happens when, say, a person submits a bug, and when the bug is
fixed, a notification of that bug fix is sent to that person, and the
mailing list to which the bug applies.

With closed lists, this'll just end in frustration for the bug-fixer.
If the closed list is BCC'd, this might work, but then the replies have
to be relayed to the list by the subscriber that sent the application
announcement to the person.  (either an automated system like GNATS, or
the one what I'm more thinking of, a company department thanking someone
in another department for finding a bug)

Can't think of an easy way to do this.

With 'b', you have someone asking the engineering department for help on
something, and the engineering people press 'reply to recipients' and
don't include the initial sender in the reply.

This applies to 'help' lists like [EMAIL PROTECTED], or
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or things like that, and also a reasonably large number
of company lists.  (This applies to "closed" lists with moderators for
non-member submissions too)

Lots of "relatively closed" or closed big lists also seem to prefer the
"reply to sender, Cc the list and the other people involved in the
thread" option in my experience.

That can be solved by a mail list header that specifies that you're
supposed to send to the sender too.

Neil
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Sunesi Clinical Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Charles McLagan writes:
 > Now, one can trash Microsoft, or Netscape, or whoever
 > makes the MUA, but the bottom line is, this is how they
 > work and this is how 99% of users would use them even
 > if there were a reply-to-recipient choice.
 > 
 > So the question is: is there a sensible (or kludgey, hack,
 > yet sufficient) way to cope with it today?

No.  Reply-to-Recipient is necessary and sufficient.

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521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | thoughts.  The crime is
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | itself already a crime.




On 07-Oct-2000, Charles McLagan wrote:
> So the question is: is there a sensible (or kludgey, hack,
> yet sufficient) way to cope with it today?

Mutt understands "Mail-Followup-To:" (MFT) and can be set to honor
that header. If you tell Mutt that you are subscribed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then it will generate the appropriate MFT header
(see mine). Later on if another Mutt user replies to my message, the
reply will only be sent to the qmail list by default, provided he/she
enables the honor-mft option.

http://mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#using_lists

Ronny




Thus said Ronny Haryanto on Sat, 07 Oct 2000 16:36:34 CDT:

> Mutt understands "Mail-Followup-To:" (MFT) and can be set to honor
> that header. If you tell Mutt that you are subscribed to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] then it will generate the appropriate MFT header
> (see mine). Later on if another Mutt user replies to my message, the
> reply will only be sent to the qmail list by default, provided he/she
> enables the honor-mft option.

Mutt is not the only MUA that understands this either.  I wonder how 
many MUA actually do honor this header?  I know NMH and possibly MH can 
handle this---and consequently, so does EXMH which is what I use.  For 
those of you that may be wondering what this header is all about see:

http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html

Andy
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 04:30:24PM -0400, Charles McLagan wrote:
> Because, just like with this email, I hit "reply all" and Microsoft
> Outlook puts your address and the list address into the To: field.
...
> Now, one can trash Microsoft, or Netscape, or whoever makes the MUA,
> but the bottom line is, this is how they work and this is how 99% of
> users would use them even if there were a reply-to-recipient choice.
>
> So the question is: is there a sensible (or kludgey, hack, yet
> sufficient) way to cope with it today?

Do you consider it sensible to use a mailer which has a list
reply feature?

Alternatively, do you consider it sensible to use a mail system
which files duplicates in a separate folder?

Alternatively, if you prefer to deal with it in a lowest-common-
denominator fashion, do you consider it sensible to use a 
keyboard?

-- 
Raul




I seen a lot of discussion on the ORBS issue in the past.  However, did any
ever post the solution to closing the relay for spam?  Make the instructions
clear for this newbie will you?

Mark Walsh
....slowly learning linux...





I never was following this thread...but read the archives.
http://www-archive.ornl.gov:8000/

/BR

 
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 6:41 AM
> To: Qmail
> Subject: ORBS
> 
> 
> I seen a lot of discussion on the ORBS issue in the past.  
> However, did any
> ever post the solution to closing the relay for spam?  Make the 
> instructions
> clear for this newbie will you?
> 
> Mark Walsh
> ....slowly learning linux...
> 
> 




I was wondering if there are any good benchmark
programs for qmail (and qmail-pop3). I need
to prove to a `we only sell microsoft' kinda
guy that opensource IS the way to go in some
situations. Hell, in ALL situations!

Regards,

-Frans




On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 11:00:37PM +0200, Frans Haarman wrote:
> I was wondering if there are any good benchmark
> programs for qmail (and qmail-pop3). I need
> to prove to a `we only sell microsoft' kinda
> guy that opensource IS the way to go in some
> situations.

If you want to run the benchmarks yourself, check out the "postal"
package.  It comes with two programs, "postal", which sends a stream of
SMTP messages, and "rabid", which consumes them through either POP3 or
IMAP.

However, if you want to prove anything to management, speed numbers
aren't going to buy you much (as many people will tell you).  You would
likely be better off to point to other major success stories, which the
front page of http://www.qmail.org/ has, as well as
http://em.ca/~bruceg/qmail-sites.html, and/or to do a cost-benefit
analysis showing them them how the OSS solution will benefit them.
That's how I was able to shoehorn Linux into our NT-crowded WAN.

I've heard that most analysts are forecasting 2x to 10x licensing cost
increases on most MS products as soon as next year, once the anti-trust
trial goes into infinite appeal mode.  Does anybody else have more
authoritative forecasts on that front other than just hearsay?
-- 
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This is in reply to Dave/Jan...

I installed qmail thru the INSTALL file that came with the arhive, and LWQ.
I printed out all the documentation that came with qmail including the FAQ,
LWQ so I have papers scattered all over the place.  I also have various
bookmarks I got from the mailing list and internet.  Too bad there isn't a
qmail book that could tie all this info together.

By the way Jan, I'm using slackware 7.1 and qmail is being started in my
/etc/rc.d/rc.local file by the line "qmail start".  I guess I was wondering
why I had the tcpserver line in the top of my qmail script.  I tried to put
it on it's own separate line in the start up file, but it doesn't work.  I
tried putting the tcpserver line before the "qmail start" and then one line
after but it didn't recogize any usernames or passwords, so I'm leaving it
at the top of the qmail file where it works.

So I guess you answered my question on needing another tcpserver line for
qmail-smtpd because I'm running qmail-smtpd via
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run, according to Dave.  So I don't have to
worry about having the -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb after the tcpserver in my
qmail-smtpd invocation.

I enter IPs in the /etc/tcp.smtp file and reload the tcp.smtp file with
"qmail cdb".  So I guess I'm in business....Thanks for you time guys/gals.





On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:35:06AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > > strace /dev/gf0
> > No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
> > moment...
>       for i in /dev/gf*; do
>               touch $i
>               strip $i
>               unzip
>               fsck
>               fsck
>               fsck
>               fsck
>               yes
>               yes
>               yes
>               yes
>               zip
>       done
> --Adam

( written sometime in the late 80s, referencing sunos unix(1) )

overview sum man vacation

man who alias as user
su who alias as e mail

sun
clear
%
uniq man
more sun
more clear
more uniq man
if repeat uniq man then vacation
yes more uniq man
yes vacation

man plot find su date on vacation
dbx man
adb man
fsck man
reboot man
if case repeat history error then kill user who batch vacation
man goto strip bar from hostname as vacation

view env
man eval env
find pack env diff, at last
foreach user cmp config quota su
view uniq su at tbl
man look at su tty units size
find su tty units size nice
man join su at tbl
biff
man refer script
man test line, mesg su "whatis nice su exec env as pwd"
su yacc on wall
man view yacc on wall while "ar ar ar"
su leave bar
man trace su

su "bg talk; fg passwd"
man look at su nice tail
sum tabs
leave bar


enroll, crypt password
man write su mail
su eval mail
su find mail true
su notify man date

man plot date
at last man exec date


look clock, sync time
continue on date
talk
man shift
su look at size man expand
su 
su test man 
look clock
tic
tic
tick
make time, date.
find su at wall arch.
join
tee, talk.
ar, ar, ar,
ed: "tip: find jobs, biff."
"yes, make tar," sed biff.
su, biff date more: touch, strip
man look at su
greap su
expand head
mount su (man on su)
login, install, vgrind
repeat more
eject
sleep
leave











Hi all.

 I've just upgraded to RedHat 7.0 and my qmail is dead.

I'm getting the following error:

[root@flux queue-fix-1.4]# telnet 192.168.0.1 25
Trying 192.168.0.1...
Connected to flux.localdomain (192.168.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
alert: cannot start: unable to switch to queue directory
Connection closed by foreign host.


 I've run queue fix, binned /var/qmail and run 'make setup check' and
'./fast-config flux.localdomain' again
 My qmail users are still OK...

 How do I fix this?

 Baz. 
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 08:03:04AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > If you insist on just one file per time period (day) then you'll need
> > to discourage multilog from automatically rolling by making the size
> > setting absurdly large. Of course by doing this you remove a major
> > advantage of multilog, namely resource control.
> 
> Resource control is a nice idea, but really I mean how many admins have way
> more than enough disk space to handle logs? Even if a day's mail log reached
> 50mb (we have about 200 users, so this figure is pretty damn huge for one
> day), then on a standard 9gb drive we can still fit 180 days logs, not

On my popserver (which does local deliveries, forwards, and some big
alias expansions) with just under 40.000 users, I *normally* do about
40mb a day, but one fat mailbomb (which happens too often) and that number
easily grows to a 100-200.

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me


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