qmail Digest 10 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1149
Topics (messages 50188 through 50266):
Re: qmail list reply-to
50188 by: Robin S. Socha
50201 by: Russell Nelson
50204 by: Neil Blakey-Milner
50205 by: Vince Vielhaber
50208 by: Brett Randall
50219 by: Chris Garrigues
50224 by: Charles McLagan
50228 by: Vince Vielhaber
50230 by: Austad, Jay
50234 by: Kris Kelley
50244 by: Jason Brooke
50256 by: Brett Randall
50265 by: Jason Brooke
50266 by: Brett Randall
How to set this configuration?
50189 by: Michail A.Baikov
50260 by: Milen Petrinski
Log file
50190 by: Mark van der Putten
50248 by: Mark van der Putten
Re: CST17030532ID - OK so I eat spam (fwd) (fwd)
50191 by: Dave Sill
50216 by: Duane L.
Re: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
50192 by: Don Wright
50198 by: jim
50214 by: Alexander Jernejcic
50217 by: Austad, Jay
50223 by: Peter van Dijk
50237 by: Brett Randall
50241 by: jim
Mass mbox to Maildir conversion
50193 by: Mike Jackson
50199 by: Mike Jackson
50207 by: markd.bushwire.net
50258 by: Mike Jackson
Re: SPAM is not a big deal if you are getting only SPAM
50194 by: Markus Stumpf
Geez...
50195 by: Wheres Mysista
50209 by: markd.bushwire.net
50231 by: Casey Allen Shobe
Site down?
50196 by: Nick Lekic
50229 by: Romeo Kienzler
50250 by: Bruno Wolff III
ITU-T (Off Topic)
50197 by: Mark Lo
50221 by: Erwin Hoffmann
50226 by: Mark Lo
50233 by: Peter van Dijk
50245 by: Nathan J. Mehl
50255 by: richard.illuin.org
different port numbers
50200 by: Marco
50212 by: Andy Bradford
50213 by: Chris Johnson
50220 by: Brian Reichert
50263 by: Aleksey Ovcharenko
Re: DJB docs mirrored?
50202 by: Toni Mueller
Qmail + netware
50203 by: Jonathan Fanti
50222 by: Erwin Hoffmann
how to
50206 by: Gustavo Schroeder
50218 by: Martin Jespersen
quotas?
50210 by: st.eforcommerce.com
Mrs. Brisby's patch for qmail-smtpd.c for username/password auth
50211 by: Martin Jespersen
50235 by: Kris Kelley
50236 by: Rob Hines Jr.
50251 by: Martin Jespersen
50252 by: Martin Jespersen
Re: qmail-ldap-help
50215 by: Alexander Jernejcic
50257 by: suresh
50259 by: suresh
cmd5checkpw 0.22 - update
50225 by: Krzysztof Dabrowski
Question on Relay Control
50227 by: James Stevens
50239 by: Chris Johnson
qmail.org site down?
50232 by: Chris Hardie
/var/qmail/alias question
50238 by: Barry Smoke
50240 by: markd.bushwire.net
50246 by: Barry Smoke
50247 by: markd.bushwire.net
Re: Help with my girlfriend?
50242 by: Charlie &
assign and deferring mail.
50243 by: Michael Boyiazis
OK Me had enuf of defending self...
50249 by: Wheres Mysista
Re: DJB Girlfriend V 1.0 - a solution for all
50253 by: Tracy R Reed
Maildir not working
50254 by: Pupeno
Re: Gnus - Message from a fan
50261 by: Brett Randall
different port number
50262 by: Marco
users on Win NT
50264 by: Stano Pa�ka
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* Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When did Cc change from Carbon Copy to Courtesy Copy?
About the same time a carriage return became a line feed. Tell me,
Vince, how *did* you manage to implement TCP/IP for that thing?
--
Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/>
Bruno Wolff III writes:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:33:34PM -0400,
> Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Charles McLagan writes:
> > > Now, one can trash Microsoft, or Netscape, or whoever
> > > makes the MUA, but the bottom line is, this is how they
> > > work and this is how 99% of users would use them even
> > > if there were a reply-to-recipient choice.
> > >
> > > So the question is: is there a sensible (or kludgey, hack,
> > > yet sufficient) way to cope with it today?
> >
> > No. Reply-to-Recipient is necessary and sufficient.
>
> And what if the sender isn't on the list?
The list doesn't munge Reply-To, so the sender can set Reply-To: if he
wants a reply. That's what Reply-To is for, NOT for discarding and
replacement by the list address.
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On Sun 2000-10-08 (17:28), Robin S. Socha wrote:
> >> No. Reply-to-Recipient is necessary and sufficient.
> > And what if the sender isn't on the list?
>
> Then the sender should ask for a Cc: - remember kids, it isn't called
> Courtesy Copy for nothing. Sending a Cc: to someone obviously subscribed
> to a list is the exact opposite of courtesy (and a straight way into
> many killfiles including mine, courtesy of procmail). As I said before:
> if you think you need to use Outlook or similarly defective "programs"
> use them for what they were made for: reading mail. Not writing.
As per usual, this is dependent on the specific list or community. Most
of the lists I'm on are of the opinion "If you don't want Cc's, set your
Reply-To or Mail-Followups-To correctly" and admonish people who don't
"use their MUAs correctly and Cc the people involved in the thread".
(FreeBSD, security, LUG, sysadmin, and "South African Internet" lists)
The reason: People are often on multiple lists, and take interest in
threads as they read and reply to them. They tend to ask questions or
state problems, or help others, and they'd like to know immediately and
separately about replies.
They tend to use procmail or maildrop or filter or whatever to sort
mailing list stuff into mailing list folders, and have personal mail,
including mails in reply to mailing list posts, going to one folder.
Of course, if you're only on one or two lists, and only get little (<
50-100) email a day, you might actually feel the hit, but if you're on
many lists and get quite a bit of email, it's infinitely more convenient
to deal with it like the above. Having to remember which specific lists
that you've asked questions or given help on to trawl for replies is not
productive.
Not saying that anything of the above is "more correct", just that it at
the very least depends on the group.
Oh, and I learnt that 'Cc' and 'Bcc' meant carbon-copy, not courtesy
copy, and at least the mutt manual also uses this convention. RFC822
doesn't define 'Cc' itself, but refers to 'Bcc' as "blind carbon".
Neil
--
Neil Blakey-Milner
Sunesi Clinical Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 8 Oct 2000, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> * Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > When did Cc change from Carbon Copy to Courtesy Copy?
>
> About the same time a carriage return became a line feed. Tell me,
I ask 'cuze every email program I've looked at here calls it "carbon
copy".
> Vince, how *did* you manage to implement TCP/IP for that thing?
It comes standard with FreeBSD. Whatsamatta, you don't like someone
questioning your creative acronyms? BTW, you may want to take a peek
at:
http://cr.yp.to/immhf/recip.html
Vince.
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> Then the sender should ask for a Cc: - remember kids, it isn't called
> Courtesy Copy for nothing.
I thought it was Carbon Copy?
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
> From: "Brett Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:00:06 +1000
>
> > Then the sender should ask for a Cc: - remember kids, it isn't called
> > Courtesy Copy for nothing.
>
> I thought it was Carbon Copy?
Considering that the majority of Internet users these days are so young that
the have never seen carbon paper, that term seems to be as obsolete as
"dialing" a telephone.
At Stan Freburg said, "That went out with button shoes!"
Chris
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Austin, TX 78751-3709 +1 512 374 0500
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but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: qmail list reply-to
> * Bruno Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:33:34PM -0400, Russell Nelson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> No. Reply-to-Recipient is necessary and sufficient.
> > And what if the sender isn't on the list?
>
> Then the sender should ask for a Cc: - remember kids, it isn't called
> Courtesy Copy for nothing. Sending a Cc: to someone obviously subscribed
> to a list is the exact opposite of courtesy (and a straight way into
> many killfiles including mine, courtesy of procmail). As I said before:
> if you think you need to use Outlook or similarly defective "programs"
> use them for what they were made for: reading mail. Not writing.
> --
This is a waste of time. I'll figure it out on my own. If I want religion
I'll
go to church.
On 8 Oct 2000, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> * Bruno Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:33:34PM -0400, Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
> >> No. Reply-to-Recipient is necessary and sufficient.
> > And what if the sender isn't on the list?
>
> Then the sender should ask for a Cc: - remember kids, it isn't called
> Courtesy Copy for nothing. Sending a Cc: to someone obviously subscribed
> to a list is the exact opposite of courtesy (and a straight way into
> many killfiles including mine, courtesy of procmail). As I said before:
> if you think you need to use Outlook or similarly defective "programs"
> use them for what they were made for: reading mail. Not writing.
>
When did Cc change from Carbon Copy to Courtesy Copy?
Vince.
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>Considering that the majority of Internet users these days are so young
that
>the have never seen carbon paper,
Regardless of age, if you were a trouble maker in school, you got quickly
acquainted with it. In 4th grade, I remember having to write 5000 times:
"When singing Old Dan Tucker, I will not call him Old D*mn F*cker".
Carbon paper saved me about 4000 sentences.
My parents were not pleased.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Garrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:53 PM
To: Brett Randall
Cc: Robin S. Socha; qmail
Subject: Re: qmail list reply-to
> From: "Brett Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:00:06 +1000
>
> > Then the sender should ask for a Cc: - remember kids, it isn't called
> > Courtesy Copy for nothing.
>
> I thought it was Carbon Copy?
Considering that the majority of Internet users these days are so young that
the have never seen carbon paper, that term seems to be as obsolete as
"dialing" a telephone.
At Stan Freburg said, "That went out with button shoes!"
Chris
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virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com
4314 Avenue C
Austin, TX 78751-3709 +1 512 374 0500
My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an
explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft,
but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.
Chris Garrigues wrote:
> Considering that the majority of Internet users these days are so young
that
> the have never seen carbon paper, that term seems to be as obsolete as
> "dialing" a telephone.
Uh, I see carbon paper almost everyday. A lot of post offices still use it
for keeping copies of money orders, and I know that can't be the only usage
still around.
And if we're not dialing telephones, what are we doing to them? I've always
heard it called dialing, regardless of what kind of phone it was: rotary,
touch-tone, gee-whiz-bang-voice-activated, or whatever.
---Kris Kelley
> I thought it was Carbon Copy?
>
> /BR
Did you think to consult with Robin Silly Socha before you came to that
conclusion?
No, I didn't think so.
Damn you, your operating system, and your harmful, evil, un-Gnus mail client
to a burning hell.
jason
"Jason Brooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I thought it was Carbon Copy?
> >
> > /BR
>
>
> Did you think to consult with Robin Silly Socha before you came to that
> conclusion?
> No, I didn't think so.
>
> Damn you, your operating system, and your harmful, evil, un-Gnus mail client
> to a burning hell.
>
> jason
>
>
>
>
>
>
My un-Gnus client? Well Mr Brooke...this last week has been an
eventful one to say the least :P Check out my headers now...
And speaking of an evil client, what the hell is up with all those
blank lines UNDER YOUR FRIGGIN NAME!!! Now I still haven't worked out
how to read headers with Gnus yet, or even how to look at previously
read articles (which magicly disappear from my group even though they
are still in the filesystem). If anyone would like to tell me how to
do these things, please feel free :) Otherwise, enjoy!
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
> My un-Gnus client? Well Mr Brooke...this last week has been an
> eventful one to say the least :P Check out my headers now...
I was only joking Mr.Randall :)
> And speaking of an evil client, what the hell is up with all those
> blank lines UNDER YOUR FRIGGIN NAME!!!
I hit enter a couple of times at the bottom of each email for some reason -
but not as many times as your indents would indicate. Maybe Bill Gates feels
that at least 6 newlines are required at the bottom of each email :)
jason
"Jason Brooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700
Ah... I see :) And we are talking about un-Gnus clients and screwed
OS's? :P
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
Hello to all, please help me, i'm don't know how to make following
configuration on my system, please consult me:
1. All UNDELIVERED mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] route to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. User1 have e-mail box on domain2.ru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but not have
e-mail box in domain3.ru (both domain setup in one machine (and one qmail)).
May be use virtual domain? How? Write example plz.
3. How to set 2 and more domains with different lists of users?
I am use qmail and mysql patch.
3. I am using vpopmail to have all my users virtual. With it you vcan easily
setup a lot of domains on one mashine, it has web administration tool - look
on www.inter7.com
Milen Petrinski
> Hello to all, please help me, i'm don't know how to make following
> configuration on my system, please consult me:
>
> 1. All UNDELIVERED mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] route to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 2. User1 have e-mail box on domain2.ru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but not have
> e-mail box in domain3.ru (both domain setup in one machine (and one
qmail)).
>
> May be use virtual domain? How? Write example plz.
>
> 3. How to set 2 and more domains with different lists of users?
>
> I am use qmail and mysql patch.
>
>
Hi there,
my qmail logfiles are filled with only this line over and over again.
----------
971017556.174395 warning: trouble opening local/1/18700; will try again later
----------
Does anyone know what the problem is
regards Mark van der Putten
end
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Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact,
or fact are transmission errors !
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E-mail at work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
E-mail at home [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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E-mail at School [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops i wan't subscribed to the list
>Hi there,
>
>my qmail logfiles are filled with only this line over and over again.
>----------
>971017556.174395 warning: trouble opening local/1/18700; will try again later
>----------
>
>Does anyone know what the problem is and how it can be fixed ??
>
regards Mark van der Putten
Martin Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello marrandy,
>
>Thank you for writing to MSN Hotmail.
>We have closed the account in question because of a violation of our Terms
>Of Service (TOS).
>You can read our TOS at:
> http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/hminfo_shell.asp?content=tos
Exactly which term was violated? And what proof do you have of it?
>Hello. this person is spamming the qmail mailing list.
No, he wasn't spamming.
>They are also, apparently, harvesting list addresses
What evidence do have of that?
>OK I will admit it
He admitted to eating Spam(r), not being a spammer. It was a joke,
son.
Please, people, we don't need self-appointed list cops.
-Dave
HOORAH!
I just love getting "confirmed kills", it's almost a good to see someone
elses. :)
Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Martin Randall wrote:
> *** Begin of forwarded message ***
>
> Date: 08-Oct-00 12:05:58
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: CST17030532ID - OK so I eat spam (fwd)
>
> --- Forwarded message follows ---
>
>
> Hello marrandy,
>
> Thank you for writing to MSN Hotmail.
> We have closed the account in question because of a violation of our Terms
> Of Service (TOS).
> You can read our TOS at:
> http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/hminfo_shell.asp?content=tos
> Hotmail has comprehensive online help available to you. For more information
> on Hotmail features, functions, and issues, click the "Help" button on the
> horizontal navigation bar.
>
> We hope that this e-mail has provided you with the assistance you needed.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Neovanni
> MSN Hotmail Customer Support
> ----------------
>
> Hello. this person is spamming the qmail mailing list.
>
> They are also, apparently, harvesting list addresses
>
> Date: 08-Oct-00 06:48:22
> From: Wheres Mybrudda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: OK so I eat spam
>
> --- Forwarded message follows ---
>
>
> OK I will admit it
>
> <SNIP>
>
> *** End of forwarded message ***
>
> Regards...Martin
> --
>
> ---------------
>
> The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that
> the first one was useless.
> -- Chamfort
>
>
Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
> From: Alexander Jernejcic
>
> i think "Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]" did
> gather adresses for spam-mail!
> just received spam from "From Lily [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]"
It doesn't have to be from that hotmail account, it could be any lurker on
the list, or it could be from the maillist to newsgroup mirror at
newsgate.muc.de. Check news:muc.lists.qmail. (Bet you didn't know you were a
USENET star.)
Here are the headers from your message, as posted to the newsgroup. More
than enough opportunity for anonymous harvesting. Note: Giganews is my
newsfeed provider.
Path:
news3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feed1.news
.rcn.net!rcn!news.maxwell.syr.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!do.de.uu.net!inf
ormatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newsgate.muc.de!not-for-mail
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Jernejcic)
Newsgroups: muc.lists.qmail
Subject: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
Date: 8 Oct 2000 12:08:55 +0200
Organization: Newsgate at muc.de e.V.
Lines: 22
Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.muc.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: marvin.muc.de 970999735 12097 193.149.48.2 (8 Oct 2000 10:08:55
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 2000 10:08:55 GMT
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
Importance: Normal
X-Newsgate-CVS-Id: $Id: newsgate.pl,v 1.2 1998/10/22 13:23:53 mort Exp $
X-No-Archive: Yes
Xref: nntp3.aus1.giganews.com muc.lists.qmail:39178
Yeah,
I just one today...
it said:
Congratulation! Sue has selected you to be her online lover.
Click here http://LoveMatch.TV-Show.com/lover?Sue to chat with her
online.
It was from: From Lily [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
This sux!
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 6:09 AM
To: Qmail
Subject: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
hi,
i think "Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]" did gather
adresses for spam-mail!
just received spam from "From Lily [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]"
anybody else a victim?
:( a
==============================================
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end
==============================================
hi,
the coninsitence is astonishing! i received many answers - all the same spam i
received...
btw: i did not now, that the mailing list is mirrored into a newsgroup
;) a
==============================================
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end
==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:27 PM
> To: Qmail
> Subject: RE: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
>
>
> > From: Alexander Jernejcic
> >
> > i think "Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]" did
> > gather adresses for spam-mail!
> > just received spam from "From Lily [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]"
>
>
> It doesn't have to be from that hotmail account, it could be any lurker on
> the list, or it could be from the maillist to newsgroup mirror at
> newsgate.muc.de. Check news:muc.lists.qmail. (Bet you didn't know you were a
> USENET star.)
>
> Here are the headers from your message, as posted to the newsgroup. More
> than enough opportunity for anonymous harvesting. Note: Giganews is my
> newsfeed provider.
> Path:
> news3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feed1.news
> .rcn.net!rcn!news.maxwell.syr.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!do.de.uu.net!inf
> ormatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newsgate.muc.de!not-for-mail
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Jernejcic)
> Newsgroups: muc.lists.qmail
> Subject: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
> Date: 8 Oct 2000 12:08:55 +0200
> Organization: Newsgate at muc.de e.V.
> Lines: 22
> Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Distribution: world
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.muc.de
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Trace: marvin.muc.de 970999735 12097 193.149.48.2 (8 Oct 2000 10:08:55
> GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 2000 10:08:55 GMT
> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> Precedence: bulk
> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
> Importance: Normal
> X-Newsgate-CVS-Id: $Id: newsgate.pl,v 1.2 1998/10/22 13:23:53 mort Exp $
> X-No-Archive: Yes
> Xref: nntp3.aus1.giganews.com muc.lists.qmail:39178
>
I got one of those too. Lily is not cute. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 1:27 PM
To: Qmail
Subject: RE: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
> From: Alexander Jernejcic
>
> i think "Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]" did
> gather adresses for spam-mail!
> just received spam from "From Lily [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]"
It doesn't have to be from that hotmail account, it could be any lurker on
the list, or it could be from the maillist to newsgroup mirror at
newsgate.muc.de. Check news:muc.lists.qmail. (Bet you didn't know you were a
USENET star.)
Here are the headers from your message, as posted to the newsgroup. More
than enough opportunity for anonymous harvesting. Note: Giganews is my
newsfeed provider.
Path:
news3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feed1.news
.rcn.net!rcn!news.maxwell.syr.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!do.de.uu.net!inf
ormatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newsgate.muc.de!not-for-mail
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Jernejcic)
Newsgroups: muc.lists.qmail
Subject: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
Date: 8 Oct 2000 12:08:55 +0200
Organization: Newsgate at muc.de e.V.
Lines: 22
Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.muc.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: marvin.muc.de 970999735 12097 193.149.48.2 (8 Oct 2000 10:08:55
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 2000 10:08:55 GMT
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
Importance: Normal
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X-No-Archive: Yes
Xref: nntp3.aus1.giganews.com muc.lists.qmail:39178
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:27:26PM -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> > From: Alexander Jernejcic
> >
> > i think "Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]" did
> > gather adresses for spam-mail!
> > just received spam from "From Lily [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]"
>
>
> It doesn't have to be from that hotmail account, it could be any lurker on
> the list, or it could be from the maillist to newsgroup mirror at
> newsgate.muc.de. Check news:muc.lists.qmail. (Bet you didn't know you were a
> USENET star.)
Reading headers shows that it is indeed that hotmail account.
Greetz, Peter
--
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
"jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yeah,
>
> I just one today...
Just a little addition to this annoyingly drawn-out thread...
I haven't received any spam at all since I've joined this list...much
impressed considering my past experiences! I am virtually convinced
that the spam people are receiving is from other sources...I even
replied to this person's thread and am still yet to see any spam.
Maybe a bit of a chuckle and a look at what other newsgroups/mailing
lists/directory services you are on is in order?
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
It's also posted in html on the web.....
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/10/threads.html
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 2:30 PM
To: Qmail
Subject: RE: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
hi,
the coninsitence is astonishing! i received many answers - all the same spam
i received...
btw: i did not now, that the mailing list is mirrored into a newsgroup
;) a
==============================================
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end
==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:27 PM
> To: Qmail
> Subject: RE: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
>
>
> > From: Alexander Jernejcic
> >
> > i think "Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]" did
> > gather adresses for spam-mail!
> > just received spam from "From Lily [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]"
>
>
> It doesn't have to be from that hotmail account, it could be any lurker on
> the list, or it could be from the maillist to newsgroup mirror at
> newsgate.muc.de. Check news:muc.lists.qmail. (Bet you didn't know you were
a
> USENET star.)
>
> Here are the headers from your message, as posted to the newsgroup. More
> than enough opportunity for anonymous harvesting. Note: Giganews is my
> newsfeed provider.
> Path:
>
news3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feed1.news
>
.rcn.net!rcn!news.maxwell.syr.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!do.de.uu.net!inf
> ormatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newsgate.muc.de!not-for-mail
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Jernejcic)
> Newsgroups: muc.lists.qmail
> Subject: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend"
> Date: 8 Oct 2000 12:08:55 +0200
> Organization: Newsgate at muc.de e.V.
> Lines: 22
> Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Distribution: world
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.muc.de
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Trace: marvin.muc.de 970999735 12097 193.149.48.2 (8 Oct 2000 10:08:55
> GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 2000 10:08:55 GMT
> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> Precedence: bulk
> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
> Importance: Normal
> X-Newsgate-CVS-Id: $Id: newsgate.pl,v 1.2 1998/10/22 13:23:53 mort Exp $
> X-No-Archive: Yes
> Xref: nntp3.aus1.giganews.com muc.lists.qmail:39178
>
Hello,
I need to convert approx. 170 users from mbox to Maildir format. The users
have a /var/spool/mail/username as their current imap inbox and
~username/mail/multiplefilenames as imap folders. This exists on the old
server. The new server will be laid out as follows:
/var/qmail/maildirs/username/Maildir
I would like to copy the inbox and all imap folders for each user to a
staging area on the new server with a single directory for each user, such
as:
/var/qmail/staging/user1
that would contain files such as user1 (inbox from /var/spool/mail), and
folders such as folder1 folder2 folder3 (from ~username/mail/). The
conversion script would ideally go through every directory in
/var/qmail/staging and create the maildir directory in /var/qmail/maildirs
for each user. It would also take every file in mbox format in the users
staging directory and put it into his maildir with the appropriate read or
unread flag, as well as converting all files in the staging directory other
than the inbox file into the same named folders in their maildirs.
I would appreciate any advice from administrators who have sucessfully
performed this same type of conversion. Please copy me personally if you
reply.
Thanks,
Mike
Hello,
I need to convert approx. 170 users from mbox to Maildir format. The users
have a /var/spool/mail/username as their current imap inbox and
~username/mail/multiplefilenames as imap folders. This exists on the old
server. The new server will be laid out as follows:
/var/qmail/maildirs/username/Maildir
I would like to copy the inbox and all imap folders for each user to a
staging area on the new server with a single directory for each user, such
as:
/var/qmail/staging/user1
that would contain files such as user1 (inbox from /var/spool/mail), and
folders such as folder1 folder2 folder3 (from ~username/mail/). The
conversion script would ideally go through every directory in
/var/qmail/staging and create the maildir directory in /var/qmail/maildirs
for each user. It would also take every file in mbox format in the users
staging directory and put it into his maildir with the appropriate read or
unread flag, as well as converting all files in the staging directory other
than the inbox file into the same named folders in their maildirs.
I would appreciate any advice from administrators who have sucessfully
performed this same type of conversion. Please copy me personally if you
reply.
Thanks,
Mike
What did you think of mbox to Maildir conversion tools that can be found
on www.qmail.org?
Regards.
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:39:36PM +0300, Mike Jackson wrote:
> Hello,
> I need to convert approx. 170 users from mbox to Maildir format. The users
> have a /var/spool/mail/username as their current imap inbox and
> ~username/mail/multiplefilenames as imap folders. This exists on the old
> server. The new server will be laid out as follows:
>
> /var/qmail/maildirs/username/Maildir
>
> I would like to copy the inbox and all imap folders for each user to a
> staging area on the new server with a single directory for each user, such
> as:
>
> /var/qmail/staging/user1
>
> that would contain files such as user1 (inbox from /var/spool/mail), and
> folders such as folder1 folder2 folder3 (from ~username/mail/). The
> conversion script would ideally go through every directory in
> /var/qmail/staging and create the maildir directory in /var/qmail/maildirs
> for each user. It would also take every file in mbox format in the users
> staging directory and put it into his maildir with the appropriate read or
> unread flag, as well as converting all files in the staging directory other
> than the inbox file into the same named folders in their maildirs.
>
> I would appreciate any advice from administrators who have sucessfully
> performed this same type of conversion. Please copy me personally if you
> reply.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What did you think of mbox to Maildir conversion tools that can be found
> on www.qmail.org?
>
I found them to be very basic and assuming that a given user would only
have one mbox file. I have users that have up to 100 separate mbox files that
are imap folders, not including their /var/spool/mail/username inbox file. I
tried one of the scripts on an inbox and it seemed to work ok. But no matter
what I did I couldn't seem to get it to accept a wildcard, ie convert all files
in one directory into a users maildir.
I think I will have to devote some serious time to this issue, since I
want to acheive the following:
1. Preserve existing imap folders and keep the same messages in them, the imap
folder structure will need to be for Courier 1.1.
2. Preserve the read and unread flags for all messages.
3. Create the courierimapsubscribed, courierimapuiddb, and maildir files in the
appropriate places with the correct values in them.
Basically, the entire migration should be totally transparent to the end users
with zero downtime. I will just change the existing mail server record in the
DNS to point to the new server when I'm finished.
Regards,
Mike
Sorry for jumping in on that thread late ...
We were affected by this "storm" (mass relaying though CZ servers) as
they abuse two domains of customers of ours, for which we do backup MX.
When the inject started the primary MX gave up quickly and we'd got all
the bounces.
Fortunately - as far as we were involved - the SENDER address, where the
bounces should go to, could easily be masked out with the badrcptpatterns
file, putting
[lL][Mm][Tt][Dd][0-9]-[Bb][Aa][Nn][Kk]@*
[lL][Mm][Tt][Dd][0-9][0-9]-[Bb][Aa][Nn][Kk]@*
in this file (the pattern was LMTD-<num>-BANK@<domain>.
I know this is kinda unfriendly, as msn, yahoo, ... got double bounces
but that was the only way to keep our mailserver operational.
During thast whole thing I noticed another problem realted to Lotus
Notes mail servers *sigh* (we could not confirm whether this is a
configuration error or a bug).
As - of course - the address does not exist Lotus did something wierd.
What should have resulted in a double bounce at the Lotus site did not.
Instead the Lotus server saw a <> Envelope-Sender and decided to take
the address from the "From:" Line and tried to bounce back the bounce
to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ... as we are outgoing
relay for that Lotus Server our mailserver was additionally hit by
the (double) bounces *argh*. As yahoo sends out bounces with a From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but that is a non existing account I then
got the resulting double bounce in my postmaster box *BIG ARGH*
I patched qmail-smtpd to make use of a "badbouncercpt" file. If the
message is a bounce and the user or user@domain is in the "badbouncercpt"
we do not accept the message.
Currently our "badbouncercpt" file contains
mailerdaemon
mailer-daemon
mail-daemon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
After that modifications our mailserver still was at rather high load
but could stand it.
Life could be much more easier by cutting off the fingers of mailserver
"programmers" who don't have a clue and writing a virus that deletes
all incarnations and source code of their programs ...
\Maex
--
SpaceNet GmbH | http://www.Space.Net/ | Stress is when you wake
Research & Development | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | up screaming and you
Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Tel: +49 (89) 32356-0 | realize you haven't
D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 | fallen asleep yet.
Geez you guys...I make you all laugh and look what you do. Close down two
hotmail accounts in one day!
No I do not collect spam addresses, my previous e-mail address was simply a
sarcastic reply, just teasing one and all :)
Please remember that each time you send an e-mail to the qmail mailing list,
I don't know how many addresses there would be on that list that simply
gather e-mail addresses and send spam. I certainly never have got any. Also
your e-mail addy is added to a qmail archive where, oh I don't know, 50
million people, maybe more, are able to see your e-mail address perfectly
fine!
So, I apologise to the list for wasting bandwidth, I apologise to Alexander
for making him think I got him on a spam list (how many places does your
e-mail addy appear on the net, and how many more databases is it in around
the world that you can't remember?), I apologise to Martin Randall (who took
my words OUT OF CONTEXT in his message to Hotmail - thanks a lot, I'm sure
they saw the humour in it)...And feel free to get this account closed as
well.
Good night, one and all.
Wheres.
_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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http://profiles.msn.com.
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 07:59:45PM +0000, Wheres Mysista wrote:
> Geez you guys...I make you all laugh and look what you do. Close down two
> hotmail accounts in one day!
And given that he always originates his hotmail email to this list from the
same IP address means that it's no great secret who it is!
But there ya go - some people don't see the obvious, do they mate?
Regards.
> Wheres.
Nice name. I'm sure it's your real one. *snicker*
- Casey
P.S. Gotta love the new "bounce" option in the right-click menu of my
mail client's messages
It seems that http://cr.yp.to site is down.
Anyone knows where I can download qmail, uscpi-tcp and daemontools from?
Thanks Nick
you can download qmail from my server if you want, just tell me, the other
programms i dont have
yours romeo
On Son, 08 Okt 2000, Nick Lekic wrote:
> It seems that http://cr.yp.to site is down.
> Anyone knows where I can download qmail, uscpi-tcp and daemontools from?
>
> Thanks Nick
--
" R o m e o K i e n z l e r "
Am Grosshausberg 2-9-3 >< 78120 Furtwangen
Fon 0170/6015062 >< Fax 01805/05255377249
email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >< "www.ormium.de"
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 11:16:38AM -0400,
Nick Lekic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems that http://cr.yp.to site is down.
> Anyone knows where I can download qmail, uscpi-tcp and daemontools from?
>
> Thanks Nick
My guess is that the transformer fire in Chicago may have had an effect.
It knocked out some radio stations (including the Bears flagship station
during the game), traffic lights and other stuff.
Hi,
First of all, Sorry for being Off-Topic. I am facing a little problem
in order to get my qmail server on-line. In Hong Kong, I am to apply a
license for mail server and this mail server has to be comply with ITU-T
standard. I just want to ask what is the standard in ITU-T from a mail
server. I have looking at the site www.itu.int about ITU-T standard, but I
couldn't find anything related to mail server, and it requires me to pay
before I have read it's document on-line.
Does anyone heard of ITU-T ?? Can you tell me what it is, and how to make
my mail server comply with ITU-T ??
Thank you
Mark
Hi,
At 15:38 9.10.2000 +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
>Hi,
>
> First of all, Sorry for being Off-Topic. I am facing a little problem
>in order to get my qmail server on-line. In Hong Kong, I am to apply a
>license for mail server and this mail server has to be comply with ITU-T
>standard. I just want to ask what is the standard in ITU-T from a mail
>server.
Sure there is. The standard ist called X.400. It defines a so called
Message Transfer System (MTS) with X.400 MTAs and lots of other things
including own protocols for Mail access (P3 etc).
This is a different approach wrt SMTP.
Vendors are ISOCOR, DEC (X.400 Mailhub) and others. There are X.400
Gateways available for Lotus Notes ....
Addresses are defined as Originator/Recipient (OR) in a X.500 manner
(CN=,O=,C=) etc.
>I have looking at the site www.itu.int about ITU-T standard, but I
>couldn't find anything related to mail server, and it requires me to pay
>before I have read it's document on-line.
Some older X.400 docs are available almost for free.
A lot of RFCs deal with conversion between SMTP and X.400 E-Mail.
>
> Does anyone heard of ITU-T ?? Can you tell me what it is, and how to make
>my mail server comply with ITU-T ??
X.400 E-Mail is practically dead. Do you like to raise a zombie ??
X.400 failed because there was no routing database available - SMTP uses MX
Records in DNS.
However, many good ideas and concepts were integrated into SMTP.
cheers.
eh.
>
>
>Thank you
>
>Mark
>
>
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| fff hh http://www.fehcom.de Dr. Erwin Hoffmann |
| ff hh |
| ff eee hhhh ccc ooo mm mm mm Wiener Weg 8 |
| fff ee ee hh hh cc oo oo mmm mm mm 50858 Koeln |
| ff ee eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm |
| ff eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm Tel 0221 484 4923 |
| ff eeee hh hh ccc ooo mm mm mm Fax 0221 484 4924 |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Hi,
Offtopic Again !! Sorry !! Does anyone know ...Do I need a license to
operate a mail server in Hong Kong.?? How about in US ?
Thank You
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Erwin Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: ITU-T (Off Topic)
> Hi,
>
> At 15:38 9.10.2000 +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> > First of all, Sorry for being Off-Topic. I am facing a little
problem
> >in order to get my qmail server on-line. In Hong Kong, I am to apply a
> >license for mail server and this mail server has to be comply with ITU-T
> >standard. I just want to ask what is the standard in ITU-T from a mail
> >server.
>
> Sure there is. The standard ist called X.400. It defines a so called
> Message Transfer System (MTS) with X.400 MTAs and lots of other things
> including own protocols for Mail access (P3 etc).
> This is a different approach wrt SMTP.
>
> Vendors are ISOCOR, DEC (X.400 Mailhub) and others. There are X.400
> Gateways available for Lotus Notes ....
> Addresses are defined as Originator/Recipient (OR) in a X.500 manner
> (CN=,O=,C=) etc.
>
> >I have looking at the site www.itu.int about ITU-T standard, but I
> >couldn't find anything related to mail server, and it requires me to pay
> >before I have read it's document on-line.
>
> Some older X.400 docs are available almost for free.
>
> A lot of RFCs deal with conversion between SMTP and X.400 E-Mail.
>
> >
> > Does anyone heard of ITU-T ?? Can you tell me what it is, and how to
make
> >my mail server comply with ITU-T ??
>
> X.400 E-Mail is practically dead. Do you like to raise a zombie ??
>
> X.400 failed because there was no routing database available - SMTP uses
MX
> Records in DNS.
>
> However, many good ideas and concepts were integrated into SMTP.
>
> cheers.
> eh.
> >
> >
> >Thank you
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | fff hh http://www.fehcom.de Dr. Erwin Hoffmann |
> | ff hh |
> | ff eee hhhh ccc ooo mm mm mm Wiener Weg 8 |
> | fff ee ee hh hh cc oo oo mmm mm mm 50858 Koeln |
> | ff ee eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm |
> | ff eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm Tel 0221 484 4923 |
> | ff eeee hh hh ccc ooo mm mm mm Fax 0221 484 4924 |
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 03:21:33AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Offtopic Again !! Sorry !! Does anyone know ...Do I need a license to
> operate a mail server in Hong Kong.?? How about in US ?
In US, definitely no. In Hong Kong, not sure, but that would seem very
unlikely.
Greetz, Peter
--
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
In the immortal words of Mark Lo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> Offtopic Again !! Sorry !! Does anyone know ...Do I need a license to
> operate a mail server in Hong Kong.?? How about in US ?
Although many of us think it would be a great idea, you do not need a
license to operate a mail server in the US. No idea about Hong Kong.
-n
-----------------------------------------------------------<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"History, which torments other countries, most just teases America."
(--www.suck.com)
<http://www.blank.org/memory/>-----------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 03:21:33AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Offtopic Again !! Sorry !! Does anyone know ...Do I need a license to
> > operate a mail server in Hong Kong.?? How about in US ?
>
> In US, definitely no. In Hong Kong, not sure, but that would seem very
> unlikely.
remember: the British lease has expired on Hong Kong so it's now been
returned to its owners and is part if China, though it is probably a
special trade zone or something. I would have thought it more likely
to require a license now than before.A
RjL
==================================================================
You know that. I know that. But when || Austin, Texas
you talk to a monkey you have to || Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
grunt and wave your arms -ck ||
|
Hi,
I wanted to change the port numbers for the mail
service (using qmail), while forwarding it from a firewall to the
server:
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L <fw_address> 25
-R <mailserver_address> xxxx
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L
<fw_address> 110 -R <mailserver_address> yyyy
Is it possible to install Qmail (and possibly
manage it subsequently) so that it can respond to port numbers xxxx and
yyyy?
If so, what should I do?
Thank you in advance.
Marco
|
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:58:58 +0200, "Marco" wrote:
> Is it possible to install Qmail (and possibly manage it subsequently) so that it can
>respond to port numbers xxxx and yyyy?
> If so, what should I do?
Yes, it is possible. You need to change the invocation of tcpserver to
use port xxxx instead of port 25 (commonly written as smtp).
Andy
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 03:58:58PM +0200, Marco wrote:
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L <fw_address> 25 -R <mailserver_address> xxxx
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L <fw_address> 110 -R <mailserver_address> yyyy
>
> Is it possible to install Qmail (and possibly manage it subsequently) so that
> it can respond to port numbers xxxx and yyyy? If so, what should I do?
If you're using tcpserver, supply xxxx or yyyy instead of smtp or pop3 as the
port number.
Chris
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 03:58:58PM +0200, Marco wrote:
> Hi,
> I wanted to change the port numbers for the mail service (using qmail), while
>forwarding it from a firewall to the server:
>
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L <fw_address> 25 -R <mailserver_address> xxxx
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L <fw_address> 110 -R <mailserver_address> yyyy
>
> Is it possible to install Qmail (and possibly manage it subsequently) so that it can
>respond to port numbers xxxx and yyyy?
You can have qmail (I presume you mean qmail-smtpd) listen to any
port you want, or any number of ports. What port it is running on
does not affect in the least it's manageability.
> If so, what should I do?
The INSTALL document describes how to start qmail-smtpd on port 25:
16. Set up qmail-smtpd in /etc/inetd.conf (all on one line):
smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
In that line, the first word 'smtp' corresponds to this line in
/etc/services:
smtp 25/tcp mail #Simple Mail Transfer
If you wanted to run qmail on another port, pick an unused port
from /etc/services, for example 2525. Create a line like this in
/etc/services:
mysmtp 2525/tcp #Simple Mail Transfer
Pick any name you like, as long as it's different that any of the
others.
Now, set up qmail-smtpd in /etc/inetd.conf, using this new service
you invented (all on one line):
mysmtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
Send a HUP signal to the inetd process, and your changes will be
in place. See services(5), inetd(8).
The author does prefer that people use his tcpserver tool, rather
than inetd. See question 5.1 in the qmail FAQ. In that document,
the line:
tcpserver -u 7770 -g 2108 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd &
is an example invokation. Again, the 'smtp' refers to the service
entry in /etc/services, replace it with 'mysmtp', or whatever you've
come up with...
> Thank you in advance.
Good luck...
> Marco
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Qmail don't use any of this port (correct me if I wrong), but qmail-tcpd
do. So u may just put that lines in your startup files:
1.
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u <qmailr> -g <nofiles>
0 xxxx /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | /usr/local/bin/multilog \
t /var/log/smtpd &
2.
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver 0 yyyy /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
your.host.name /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
And, of course, u must have this xxxx & yyyy port in /etc/servises.
Best regards.
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Marco wrote:
> Hi,
> I wanted to change the port numbers for the mail service (using qmail), while
>forwarding it from a firewall to the server:
>
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L <fw_address> 25 -R <mailserver_address> xxxx
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L <fw_address> 110 -R <mailserver_address> yyyy
>
> Is it possible to install Qmail (and possibly manage it subsequently) so that it can
>respond to port numbers xxxx and yyyy?
> If so, what should I do?
> Thank you in advance.
> Marco
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
Hello,
I have a regular need to get to DJB's documentation (affects
several of his software packages). There once was a mentioning
on this list that some of you mirror this documentation. I'd
like to get these addresses, and suggest they be put online
at an easy-to-find address so one could get the stuff when
DJB's site is unreachable (this happened for several hours
today to me).
Thank you!
Best Regards,
--Toni++
Is it possible to use qmail+ldap so that when you create a user with
Netware 5 qmail would also be able to get the new user from ldap? I
haven't looked into this too deeply yet. I was wondering if anybody has
tried this, or knows if it's not possible?
Jon.
--
ICMP - The protocol that likes to go: PING!
Hi,
At 09:17 9.10.2000 +0100, Jonathan Fanti wrote:
>Is it possible to use qmail+ldap so that when you create a user with
>Netware 5 qmail would also be able to get the new user from ldap? I
>haven't looked into this too deeply yet. I was wondering if anybody has
>tried this, or knows if it's not possible?
You have to run the current NDS and apply the LDAP patch for QMAIL.
I still have to do this. Dont know about performance figures yet.
Each incoming E-Mail requires an LDAP lookup (bind etc).
cheers.
eh.
>
>Jon.
>
>--
>ICMP - The protocol that likes to go: PING!
>
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Gustavo Schroeder wrote:
>
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/Martin
Hi there:
I'm having a very weird problem with my mail server.
To be brief: I'm hosting 2 virtual domains.
Have qmail + vpopmail running over
FreeBSD-4.1.
The problem: when somebody sends a message to one of the users of one
virtual domain,
the server bounces the message with the usual text:
.............
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<someuser@virtualdomain>:
User is over quota email returned
.............
The most strange situation is that when the message is short everything
goes fine, but when it
gets a little larger the above situation happens.
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Hugo
Does anyone know of any reason not to install this patch if the functionallity is
kind-of-needed?
I mean does it affect performance for example?
I am no c-guru and the diff i didn't on patch and the original doesn't give me any
hints to wethr or
not it is sane to use the patch...
the reason i ask is that it is listed so far down on the site that i thought it might
not be seen as
a 'good' patch...
*feels a little stupid for asking this*
Regards
Martin
Martin Jespersen wrote:
> Does anyone know of any reason not to install this patch if the
functionallity is kind-of-needed?
>
> the reason i ask is that it is listed so far down on the site that i
thought it might not be seen
> as a 'good' patch...
Assuming by "the site" you mean qmail.org, I doubt its position on the page
reflects any opinion about its quality.
I use the mouse's patch, and so far it has delivered what it promised, with
no side effects. Note however that there are a couple of caveats. DJB's
checkpassword program is necessary for this patch to work, and the
checkpassword executable may require a bit of tweaking for everything to
execute correctly. This modification, as Mrs. Brisby has been quick to
point out, may leave your system password file vulnerable to attack if
you're not careful; see http://www.nimh.org/code.shtml for details. Also,
the authentication scheme used, "AUTH=LOGIN", is not really secure, barely a
step above sending passwords in the clear. If you're the paranoid type who
worries about sniffers on your network, this won't be very ideal for you.
Krzysztof Dabrowski has written a more robust SMTP AUTH patch based on Mrs.
Brisby's work. In addition to LOGIN, it offers PLAIN and CRAM-MD5
authentication techniques, the latter being more suited to those worried
about protecting their passwords. Check out
http://members.elysium.pl/brush/qmail-smtpd-auth/ for more information.
> *feels a little stupid for asking this*
*feels high and mighty for being able to answer this*
I'm kidding. :)
---Kris Kelley
I have qmail 1.03 with this patch only running on a Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 w/ 1.2G of
RAM and the auth
cycle for smtp server is VERY slow, it noticably slows down the mail delivery. I wish
there was a
solution, but I haven't found one yet. Other than making SMTP respond with crippling
slowness, it seems
to work fine.
Rob
Martin Jespersen wrote:
> Does anyone know of any reason not to install this patch if the functionallity is
>kind-of-needed?
>
> I mean does it affect performance for example?
>
> I am no c-guru and the diff i didn't on patch and the original doesn't give me any
>hints to wethr or
> not it is sane to use the patch...
>
> the reason i ask is that it is listed so far down on the site that i thought it
>might not be seen as
> a 'good' patch...
>
> *feels a little stupid for asking this*
>
> Regards
>
> Martin
--
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System Administrator
Phone: (317)469-4535
Fax: (317)469-4508
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ok thx :)
Btw. i've installed it and it runs fine, but only now do i find out that i am supposed
to supply the
commandline with a chackpassword program (the path to it).
I haven't done this, and yet it works fine.... any clue how/why? :)
/Martin
Kris Kelley wrote:
>
> Martin Jespersen wrote:
> > Does anyone know of any reason not to install this patch if the
> functionallity is kind-of-needed?
> >
> > the reason i ask is that it is listed so far down on the site that i
> thought it might not be seen
> > as a 'good' patch...
>
> Assuming by "the site" you mean qmail.org, I doubt its position on the page
> reflects any opinion about its quality.
>
> I use the mouse's patch, and so far it has delivered what it promised, with
> no side effects. Note however that there are a couple of caveats. DJB's
> checkpassword program is necessary for this patch to work, and the
> checkpassword executable may require a bit of tweaking for everything to
> execute correctly. This modification, as Mrs. Brisby has been quick to
> point out, may leave your system password file vulnerable to attack if
> you're not careful; see http://www.nimh.org/code.shtml for details. Also,
> the authentication scheme used, "AUTH=LOGIN", is not really secure, barely a
> step above sending passwords in the clear. If you're the paranoid type who
> worries about sniffers on your network, this won't be very ideal for you.
>
> Krzysztof Dabrowski has written a more robust SMTP AUTH patch based on Mrs.
> Brisby's work. In addition to LOGIN, it offers PLAIN and CRAM-MD5
> authentication techniques, the latter being more suited to those worried
> about protecting their passwords. Check out
> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/qmail-smtpd-auth/ for more information.
>
> > *feels a little stupid for asking this*
>
> *feels high and mighty for being able to answer this*
>
> I'm kidding. :)
>
> ---Kris Kelley
*DOH!*
Just found out that what it does is: it doesn't check passwords an thus authenticate
all *YIKES*
Sorry for being such a newbie...
/Martin
Martin Jespersen wrote:
>
> ok thx :)
>
> Btw. i've installed it and it runs fine, but only now do i find out that i am
>supposed to supply the
> commandline with a chackpassword program (the path to it).
>
> I haven't done this, and yet it works fine.... any clue how/why? :)
>
> /Martin
>
> Kris Kelley wrote:
> >
> > Martin Jespersen wrote:
> > > Does anyone know of any reason not to install this patch if the
> > functionallity is kind-of-needed?
> > >
> > > the reason i ask is that it is listed so far down on the site that i
> > thought it might not be seen
> > > as a 'good' patch...
> >
> > Assuming by "the site" you mean qmail.org, I doubt its position on the page
> > reflects any opinion about its quality.
> >
> > I use the mouse's patch, and so far it has delivered what it promised, with
> > no side effects. Note however that there are a couple of caveats. DJB's
> > checkpassword program is necessary for this patch to work, and the
> > checkpassword executable may require a bit of tweaking for everything to
> > execute correctly. This modification, as Mrs. Brisby has been quick to
> > point out, may leave your system password file vulnerable to attack if
> > you're not careful; see http://www.nimh.org/code.shtml for details. Also,
> > the authentication scheme used, "AUTH=LOGIN", is not really secure, barely a
> > step above sending passwords in the clear. If you're the paranoid type who
> > worries about sniffers on your network, this won't be very ideal for you.
> >
> > Krzysztof Dabrowski has written a more robust SMTP AUTH patch based on Mrs.
> > Brisby's work. In addition to LOGIN, it offers PLAIN and CRAM-MD5
> > authentication techniques, the latter being more suited to those worried
> > about protecting their passwords. Check out
> > http://members.elysium.pl/brush/qmail-smtpd-auth/ for more information.
> >
> > > *feels a little stupid for asking this*
> >
> > *feels high and mighty for being able to answer this*
> >
> > I'm kidding. :)
> >
> > ---Kris Kelley
hi,
the permissions are ok, since they are world readable. i assume in ldapserver theres
the hostname of the ldapserver to connect to?
if so, is the hostname ok?
as you see, i don't use the ldap-patch myself, i just tried to help...
i add the qmail-list to the cc, just to let someone else the chance to answer.
;) a
==============================================
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: suresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
>
>
>
> Sorry for the logo.Was trying to set for a marketing person(forgot to remove
> it from mine,thanx)
>
> It belongs to root.Do i need to change ownership
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 512 Oct 6 16:58 .
> drwxr-xr-x 10 root qmail 512 Oct 5 18:48 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 11:59 defaultdomain
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 17 Oct 6 16:56 ldapbasedn
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 2 Oct 6 16:58 ldaplocaldelivery
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 32 Oct 6 16:57 ldaplogin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 7 Oct 6 16:57 ldappassword
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 13 Oct 6 16:54 ldapserver
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 12:00 locals
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 12:00 me
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 12:00 plusdomain
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 11 Oct 5 18:49 rcpthostsold
>
>
> thanx for replying
>
>
> Suresh
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 11:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
>
>
> hi,
> first of all: nice logo but IMHO a senseless waste of bandwith...
> and now for your question: what are the permissions of the
> ~control/ldapserver and who owns it? most troubles around seem to raise
> out of wrong ownership and file permissions. be so kind and have a look or
> post a ls -l.
>
> ;) a
>
> ==============================================
> Alexander Jernejcic
> email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> end
>
> ==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: suresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 1:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: qmail-ldap-help
>
>
>
>
> Hi
> I am trying to install ldap-qmail.Can anybody tell me what this error means
> (i have vreated the ldapserver file and ldap is working)
>
>
> Oct 7 11:44:52 sunmailjol qmail: [ID 748625 mail.alert] 970919092.654456
> alert:
> cannot start qmail-lspawn or it had an error! Check if ~control/ldapserver
> exis
> ts.
>
>
> Suresh
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________
>
> Makes Internet work in Indian languages
> ___________________________________________
>
>
I have entered the IP address in the file(ok?)
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:43 PM
To: suresh
Cc: Qmail
Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
hi,
the permissions are ok, since they are world readable. i assume in
ldapserver theres the hostname of the ldapserver to connect to?
if so, is the hostname ok?
as you see, i don't use the ldap-patch myself, i just tried to help...
i add the qmail-list to the cc, just to let someone else the chance to
answer.
;) a
==============================================
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: suresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
>
>
>
> Sorry for the logo.Was trying to set for a marketing person(forgot to
remove
> it from mine,thanx)
>
> It belongs to root.Do i need to change ownership
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root qmail 512 Oct 6 16:58 .
> drwxr-xr-x 10 root qmail 512 Oct 5 18:48 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 11:59 defaultdomain
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 17 Oct 6 16:56 ldapbasedn
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 2 Oct 6 16:58 ldaplocaldelivery
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 32 Oct 6 16:57 ldaplogin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 7 Oct 6 16:57 ldappassword
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 13 Oct 6 16:54 ldapserver
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 12:00 locals
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 12:00 me
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 15 Oct 6 12:00 plusdomain
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 11 Oct 5 18:49 rcpthostsold
>
>
> thanx for replying
>
>
> Suresh
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 11:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
>
>
> hi,
> first of all: nice logo but IMHO a senseless waste of bandwith...
> and now for your question: what are the permissions of the
> ~control/ldapserver and who owns it? most troubles around seem to raise
> out of wrong ownership and file permissions. be so kind and have a look or
> post a ls -l.
>
> ;) a
>
> ==============================================
> Alexander Jernejcic
> email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> end
>
> ==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: suresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 1:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: qmail-ldap-help
>
>
>
>
> Hi
> I am trying to install ldap-qmail.Can anybody tell me what this error
means
> (i have vreated the ldapserver file and ldap is working)
>
>
> Oct 7 11:44:52 sunmailjol qmail: [ID 748625 mail.alert] 970919092.654456
> alert:
> cannot start qmail-lspawn or it had an error! Check if
~control/ldapserver
> exis
> ts.
>
>
> Suresh
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________
>
> Makes Internet work in Indian languages
> ___________________________________________
>
>
I am using 2.0.4
1)I altered the default to mail and tried to start the ldap server,It does
not give any errors but it does start either(not in pid list)
2)Also it gives this error now "No objectClass "top" defined in schema"
I did really add real data into the database(using the samples in the ldap
readme).But i ran into truble after i startted using the qmail-ldap
samples.I believe the sample file on the site are supposed to run no matter
what
I am ok with security for now.I will work it out later
I am sorry for newbie questions But i am a newbie!!
Suresh
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:18 PM
To: suresh
Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
hi,
what is your version of openldap? for this kind of config and
objectdefinition it has to be something below 2.0.
the index line tells openldap what attributes should indexes be maintained
for. try to alter the default index to mail or just
comment it out (put # in front of the line)...
in slapd.oc.conf you define the objectclasses with its attribute. imho one
should add a new objectclass to slapd.ac.conf too.
some additional hints:
turn schemacheck off.
you should add (with slapadd) a o= object:
content of file base.ldiff:
o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH
objectclass: organization
#ldapadd -D "cn=root, o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH" -W < base.ldif
try to set up your ldap server with "real" data.
e.g.: set c to your real country code, and o to your real company
(slapd.conf and ldap.conf).
your ldap-database will be created in /var/qmail/users
for some kind of security: block the ldap ports for external access
(firewalling)
sorry for the unstructured answer, was just a kind of brainstorming..
;) a
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: suresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:45 PM
> To: Alexander. Jernejcic@Chello. At
> Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
>
>
>
> Hi
> I hope yu can help me.I am using these example files,but i cant get the
> slapd started-gives error->
>
> /usr/local/etc/openldap/slapd.conf: line 32: no indexes selected
>
> I am not a unix person .I started working on Sun just a month back.I tried
> going through the readmes ,i could not get much out of them
>
>
> Suresh
>
> EXAMPLE QLDAP LDIF FILE:
>
> dn: cn=Andre Oppermann, o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH
> cn: Andre Oppermann
> sn: Oppermann
> objectClass: top
> objectClass: person
> objectClass: inetOrgPerson
> objectClass: qmailUser
> mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailHost: opi.flirtbox.ch
> mailMessageStore: /usr/home/opi/Maildir/
> mailQuota: 1000000S,100C
> qmailUID: 1001
> qmailGID: 1001
> uid: opi
> userPassword: {MD5}b28a87511da157f147ed4766b0474a8a
>
>
> EXAMPLE SLAPD.CONF FILE:
>
> include /usr/local/etc/ldap/slapd.at.conf
> include /usr/local/etc/ldap/slapd.oc.conf
> schemacheck on
> #referral ldap://ldap.itd.umich.edu
>
> #######################################################################
> # ldbm database definitions
> #######################################################################
>
> database ldbm
> suffix "o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH"
> directory /var/qmail/users
> rootdn "cn=root, o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH"
> rootpw secret
> index mail,mailAlternateAddress,uid
> index default none
>
>
> ADD THIS SCHEMA TO SLAPD.OC.CONF
>
> objectclass qmailUser
> requires
> objectclass,
> mail,
> uid
> allows
> mailMessageStore,
> homeDirectory,
> userPassword,
> mailAlternateAddress,
> qmailUID,
> qmailGID,
> mailQuota,
> mailHost,
> mailForwardingAddress,
> deliveryProgramPath,
> qmailDotMode,
> deliveryMode,
> mailReplyText,
> accountStatus
>
>
Hello..
A new, updated version of cmd5checkpw (needed for cram-md5 authentication
in qmail-smtp auth patch) is released.
Changes:
- fix for a crash when user is not found in the passwd database.
- Support for PLAIN/LOGIN auth (so you can use cmd5checkpw for both CRAM-MD5
and PLAIN/LOGIN). Changes contributed by Javier Kohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
- man page update
http://members.elysium.pl/brush/cmd5checkpw/
Download it if you use Cram-md5.
Kris
|
What file do I need to create in the control
directory to enable relay control? Actually I would like to enforce User Name
and Password Authentication from anything incomming to qmail.
--JT
|
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 12:30:46PM -0700, James Stevens wrote:
> What file do I need to create in the control directory to enable relay
> control?
Make sure rcpthosts contains only the names of the domains for which you wish
to receive mail. This will prevent anyone fom using you as a relay. To allow
certain IP addresses to use you for a relay, see
http://www.palomine.net/qmail/selectiverelay.html
> Actually I would like to enforce User Name and Password Authentication from
> anything incomming to qmail.
You'll need to patch qmail for that; user name/password-based relay control is
not part of SMTP.
> Secound question.. What happened to www.qmail.org????
It appears to be down, or something between you and it is down. These things
happen.
Chris
It's quite possible that I missed something, but:
When I visit http://www.qmail.org, I am redirected to
http://www.qmail.org/vbn/unreachable.vbn
and get a message saying
"Welcome to Elastic Networks. Sorry the file that you have requested is
not reachable from this side of the network..."
Sometimes I can't get to the site at all.
Am I delerious? Did someone pee in my DNS stream? Anyone else having
this problem? (Sorry for the relatively-insignificant-meta-nature of this
message.)
Chris
-- Chris Hardie -----------------------------
----- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------
-------- http://www.summersault.com/chris/ --
I work for a school district, and we just converted 8 mercury mail servers
running on novell over to one district mail server, running qmail.
I am running domain(ip) aliasing on this machine, so we can do mail
forwarding for the old domains.
IE..
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
is forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and we had some usernames that were shortened in the past due to old mail
server limitations with names over 8 characters... short names that we are
forwarding to the full username now:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
is being forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a .qmail-sallbrit file containing sallbritton
This is all working perfectly, except for a few strange name problems.
we have an [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and we have an [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two users with the same old username, at 2 different schools....
We sould like to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
we tried a [EMAIL PROTECTED] file containing stwright
but I got the following error message from the system:
is there a way to do this...seperate 2 users out by domain?
**************************************************************
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at bryant.k12.ar.us.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 7632 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2000 18:35:20 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO tech1) (10.10.25.61)
by bryant.dsc.k12.ar.us with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 18:35:20 -0000
From: "Barry Smoke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:31:00 -0500
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
Importance: Normal
This is a test of our forwarding system...
you should get this message forwarded to smwright@bryant,
it is being sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if you get this...
Thanks,
Barry Smoke
District Network Administrator
Bryant Public Schools
Barry Smoke
District Network Administrator
Bryant Public Schools
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:36:55PM -0500, Barry Smoke wrote:
> This is all working perfectly, except for a few strange name problems.
The good news is, it's easy to fix. The bad news is, you have probably
set up your virtual domains and aliases incorrectly for your situation.
For each of the domains that you forward for, you should have an entry
in rcpthosts and virtualdomains.
In virtualdomains you should use a *unique* alias for each domain,
such as:
ses1.dsc.k12.ar.us:alias-ses1
des1.dsc.k12.ar.us:alias-des1
Then, in the alias home directory, you create a file called
.qmail-ses1-swright to handle forwarding for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and create a file called .qmail-des1-swright to handle forwarding for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Note that -ses1 and -des1 are now part of the alias file names?
Regards.
that makes sense...but what about the hundreds of users that had nothing
change...
right now [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to /home/bsmoke/Maildir
and [EMAIL PROTECTED] goest to /home/bsmoke/Maildir
because all of these domains are in /var/qmail/control/locals
so 99% of all the other users are working correctly...
is this a situation where if i made that domain a virtual domain
instead...and made an alias-ses1
then put in /home/ses1 a .qmail-ses1-swright containing stwright
in order for this to continue working for everyone else, i would have to
make .qmail-ses1- files for everyone on that domain..wouldn't I?
could i just have a /home/swright folder with a .qmail file that checks what
domain it is coming from, then forward that way?
(like if [EMAIL PROTECTED], forward to stwright)
else if [EMAIL PROTECTED], forward to srwright)
i don't know what the actual working of the file would be...but would that
work...or is it not possible?
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /var/qmail/alias question
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:36:55PM -0500, Barry Smoke wrote:
> This is all working perfectly, except for a few strange name problems.
The good news is, it's easy to fix. The bad news is, you have probably
set up your virtual domains and aliases incorrectly for your situation.
For each of the domains that you forward for, you should have an entry
in rcpthosts and virtualdomains.
In virtualdomains you should use a *unique* alias for each domain,
such as:
ses1.dsc.k12.ar.us:alias-ses1
des1.dsc.k12.ar.us:alias-des1
Then, in the alias home directory, you create a file called
.qmail-ses1-swright to handle forwarding for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and create a file called .qmail-des1-swright to handle forwarding for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Note that -ses1 and -des1 are now part of the alias file names?
Regards.
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 06:30:29PM -0500, Barry Smoke wrote:
>
>
>
> that makes sense...but what about the hundreds of users that had nothing
> change...
> right now [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to /home/bsmoke/Maildir
> and [EMAIL PROTECTED] goest to /home/bsmoke/Maildir
> because all of these domains are in /var/qmail/control/locals
> so 99% of all the other users are working correctly...
Right. Well if you want all users in all domains to be synonymous,
then the way you have it is fine. All new users will likewise be
synonymous in all domains, is that what you want?
> is this a situation where if i made that domain a virtual domain
> instead...and made an alias-ses1
> then put in /home/ses1 a .qmail-ses1-swright containing stwright
> in order for this to continue working for everyone else, i would have to
> make .qmail-ses1- files for everyone on that domain..wouldn't I?
Yep. You could do it with -default files as well which would greatly
reduce number of entries you might need.
.qmail-ses1-default contains a generic "| forward" command
.qmail-des1-default contains a generic "| forward" command
.qmail-des1-swright has specific forwarding instructions and
.qmail-ses1-swright likewise has specific forwarding instructions.
> could i just have a /home/swright folder with a .qmail file that checks what
> domain it is coming from, then forward that way?
> (like if [EMAIL PROTECTED], forward to stwright)
> else if [EMAIL PROTECTED], forward to srwright)
Yep. You sure could. As long as:
a) they cannot get to their home and change it
b) you're prepared to do this for each new user that collides
Regards.
Hmmm... good choice
X-Originating-IP: [203.164.3.167]
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:33:22PM +0000, Wheres Mybrudda wrote:
> Hello. Is this the right place to come for help with my girlfriend? A friend
> told me that if I came to the Qinky Mothers After Indigenous Lesbians list
> then you can tell me what I have to do to win back my South-Asian girlfriend
> from her qinky mumma.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Wheres.
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Greetings,
Last week or so i mentioned that i have a mechanism to
queue mail when a control file exists. This is through a
hack to qmail-getpw.c. Someone else commented that
if /var/qmail/alias/assign is being used as a forwarding
mechanism, that qmail-getpw is not used and that qmail-local
is the delivery agent.
My question: can i then put in the same hack to qmail-local.c
to exit w/ a 111 to defer mail when this control file is present
or is it too late?
Another question: will the assign mechanism be slow w/
500K+ entries, if need be?
Thanks,
--
Michael Boyiazis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.
FYI, 203.164.3.x addresses are NAT-based firewalls for an Australian-based
ISP with 10's of thousands of customers. Is the Originating IP address of
the spam the same as mine was? (Check mine now...you really think I would
use my personal IP address for sending humorous and somewhat embarassing
e-mails to mailing lists? :) ) If it is, then why don't you send an e-mail
to all the other few ten thousand's of people and ask them if they spammed
you?
I've had enough of this list. Really, I just wanted to make you laugh (and I
know many of you can testament to the fact that I did make you laugh!) and I
am sorry that you all feel I have spammed you. Did you receive any spam all
those months ago when my name was imaguru? ('I have a problem with qmail,
can anyone help me?') :) Sorry for the problems and arguments I have caused,
and have a fine day.
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On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 04:24:27PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> Since we all know the DJB writes the best little programs, we should
> commission him to write a girlfriend/wife program. Not only would it be
Unfortunately any such girlfriend program from DJB, while being the absolute
best quality girlfriend around, would be so restricted by a jealous license
that we would not be allowed to put clothes and make up on her and share her
with all of our friends. Nobody would take her as provided and consequently she
would never gain mass-acceptance and ultimately fade into history. :(
--
Tracy Reed http://www.ultraviolet.org
I'm trying to use the Maildir format for the mails with qmail.
But I don't know why, it's not working (/Mailbox works good).
I'm using to start it this script:
#!/bin/sh
# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default.
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail
When I inject a mail with qmail-inject it stays in the queue:
messages in queue: 1
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
10 Oct 2000 00:14:20 GMT #219356 224 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and if a flush the queue I get this error:
Oct 10 00:29:02 tec-sis qmail: 971148542.767587 starting delivery 10:
msg 219356 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 10 00:29:02 tec-sis qmail: 971148542.768130 status: local 1/10
remote 0/20
Oct 10 00:29:02 tec-sis qmail: 971148542.775634 delivery 10: deferral:
Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/
Oct 10 00:29:02 tec-sis qmail: 971148542.775861 status: local 0/10
remote 0/20
and of course the mails stays on the queue without being delivered.
The directory /home/pupeno/Maildir exists:
drwxr-xr-x 2 pupeno pupeno 512 Oct 9 21:19 Maildir/
I'm forgetting something ? What's wrong ? Why it isn't working ?
Thank you.
--
Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pupeno.com
PGP fingerprint: 02B5 EDAE EC30 7A9A 0327 9D05 89FB 8D14 B4D8 64C3
Get my key from: http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/wwwkeys.html
PS: Thank you to the developers of qmail to make it, you're doing a
great job!!!
Hello one and all
I have virtually made a complete transition to Gnus and love
it...Thanks to Mr Robin Scary Socha for abusing the crap out of me and
forcing me to get a new mail client!
May I encourage people who have about 10 hours spare over a week (OK I
know it sounds crazy, but thats like less than 2 hours a day) to look
at Robin's gnus tutorial (http://socha.net/Gnus/), take a quick glance
at the Gnus *technical reference* (also known as a manual,
http://www.gnus.org/), try out a few .gnus configurations, learn Emacs
or XEmacs (C-h t for the tutorial) basics, and experiment? It REALLY
is very efficient compared with many other clients...Takes a few
seconds to get used to its style, and a few more to remember the
keyboard shortcuts that make it ever so easy to use, but mail and
newsgroups have never been so nice and easy to browse, view, reply to,
all nicely, conveniently and with great etiquette.
It isn't as hard to set up as everyone makes out, it just takes time
for trial-and-error. Unless you've got anything to say that will help
the list, please just reply to me personally as I've had enough of
cloggin up this list with OT replies :) Thanks!
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
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Just to say: "thank you" to the list and to
Chris, Brian and Andy.
Bye and...have a
nice day!
Ciao, Marco
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I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail
(vpopmail).
I need some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but
it must work with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win
NT)...
Do you have some useful links?
Stano.
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