qmail Digest 12 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1151
Topics (messages 50366 through 50468):
Re: I know I'm probably doing something stupid
50366 by: Petr Novotny
Please help me ! About pop3 authorization?
50367 by: ����
50368 by: ����
50372 by: Milen Petrinski
Problems with RELAYCLIENT
50369 by: Leonard Tulipan
50370 by: Martin Jespersen
50386 by: Leonard Tulipan
50388 by: Martin Jespersen
50399 by: Justin Bell
Re: installing qmail
50371 by: Neil Grant
~alias?
50373 by: Neil Grant
50375 by: Chris Johnson
50379 by: James Raftery
qmail mentioned for its string handling
50374 by: Rogue Eagle
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
50376 by: martin langhoff
50387 by: martin langhoff
Re: Redhat 7
50377 by: Linux
50378 by: Peter Green
50380 by: Robin S. Socha
50383 by: Robin S. Socha
50404 by: Rob Hines Jr.
50417 by: Rogue Eagle
50425 by: Aaron L. Meehan
syslog and qmail-inject
50381 by: Neil Grant
50385 by: Milen Petrinski
concurrencyremote
50382 by: Doug Schmidt
50391 by: Alex Pennace
50400 by: Kris Kelley
50419 by: Doug Schmidt
50420 by: Ricardo Albano
50424 by: Austad, Jay
50450 by: Doug Schmidt
Re: a "real" MUA for X? (was qmail list reply-to)
50384 by: Paul Farber
50406 by: Andy Bradford
50421 by: Dave Sill
50423 by: Vince Vielhaber
50431 by: Brett Randall
Re: Qmail Tshirts
50389 by: Greg Cope
50392 by: markd.bushwire.net
50394 by: Greg Cope
50396 by: markd.bushwire.net
50410 by: Vern Hart
50412 by: Vern Hart
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
50390 by: markd.bushwire.net
50398 by: James Stevens
50405 by: Bill Carlson
50456 by: Andy Bradford
strange occurance in qmail
50393 by: Bill Parker
50402 by: James Raftery
50407 by: Bill Parker
installing qmail tshirt-HELP please respond!!!
50395 by: Andy Meuse
50397 by: Leonard Tulipan
50426 by: Timothy Legant
50427 by: Henrik �hman
Assistance in authenticatoin for SMTP
50401 by: Brian Pinkney
50403 by: Kris Kelley
Just be aware of this one...
50408 by: Goran Blazic
qmail-local.c bug?
50409 by: Erik Sjoelund
50414 by: Martin Jespersen
50416 by: Peter Samuel
50444 by: Peter van Dijk
50458 by: D. J. Bernstein
Re: How to initiate an ETRN tranfer
50411 by: Peter van Dijk
[OT] Religious RAID Arguments (was: Running Multiple Copies...)
50413 by: Jeremy Stanley
problems ... again
50415 by: Neil Grant
50422 by: Aaron L. Meehan
50429 by: Neil Grant
50430 by: Tim Hunter
50434 by: Chris Johnson
50453 by: Neil Grant
Re: Maildir & Mailbox
50418 by: Sten
50432 by: Al Sparks
Re: Moving from NFS delivery to SMTP delivery...need advice!
50428 by: -dsr-
50433 by: Brett Randall
50441 by: -dsr-
50443 by: Brett Randall
50449 by: Brett Randall
50451 by: Brett Randall
50452 by: frob.webcentral.com.au
50454 by: frob.webcentral.com.au
smtp speed limit??
50435 by: Austad, Jay
50437 by: Aaron L. Meehan
50439 by: Austad, Jay
50442 by: Chris Johnson
50446 by: Andy Bradford
50448 by: Austad, Jay
mail problem
50436 by: Eduardo Rojas
*very* strange problems with virtualdomains
50438 by: martin langhoff
+list ???
50440 by: Peter van Dijk
50445 by: markd.bushwire.net
50447 by: Peter van Dijk
Qmail / MySQL
50455 by: Mike A. Sauvain
Incomming message filter
50457 by: szq79
50461 by: Leonard Tulipan
How to send to all for a webmaster
50459 by: szq79
50460 by: Andy Bradford
Vpopmail question
50462 by: Kris Keele
50463 by: Andras Kende
50467 by: Ken Jones
Can't parse MIME message correctly.
50464 by: szq79
Removing attachments from bounces
50465 by: Brett Randall
terminate spamming
50466 by: Mauro Tablo'
50468 by: OK 2 NET - Andr� Paulsberg
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On 11 Oct 2000, at 17:44, Christopher McLean wrote:
> My inetd.conf file reads:
>
> pop-3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
> mail.theregistry.com.au /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
> Maildir
inetd doesn't support backslash as line continuation character. It
never did. Put all the stuff on one line.
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Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
[Tom Waits]
my qmail had been installed
successfully.(qmail-1.03,ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz,checkpassword-0.81.tar.gz,
daemontools-0.70.tar.gz)
i can send mail by telneting port
25.
but i cant not pass the pop3
authorization.
my pop3 server is running normally,and i
cat telnet port 110.
pop3 authrization use checkpasswd����authorization failed��
pop3 authrization use vchkpw of Vpopmail����authorization
failed��
i have tried a lot of checkpasswd
programes(vpopmail.vmailmgr,authpop����) ,i also reinstall qmail several
times,
but the problem exist yet .
please help me ,or give me some
advises.
thank you!
$ telnet 192.168.0.1 110
Trying
192.168.0.11...
Connected to 192.168.0.11.
Escape character is
'^]'.
+OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
user 7961 (this is system
account)
+OK
pass axdfas (password for 7961)
-ERR authorization
failed
Connection closed by foreign host.
i had tried to use tcpserver or inet to
starting the qmail.but i met the same problem.
my pop3's tcpserver script:
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop-3
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup p01.power1.c
m \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
& (all in one line)
my inet.com script:
pop-3 stream tcp nowait root
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup \ p01.powe
1.com
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir(all in one
line)
|
my qmail had been installed
successfully.(qmail-1.03,ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz,checkpassword-0.81.tar.gz,
daemontools-0.70.tar.gz)
i can send mail by telneting port
25.
but i cant not pass the pop3
authorization.
my pop3 server is running normally,and i
cat telnet port 110.
pop3 authrization use checkpasswd����authorization failed��
pop3 authrization use vchkpw of Vpopmail����authorization
failed��
i have tried a lot of checkpasswd
programes(vpopmail.vmailmgr,authpop����) ,i also reinstall qmail several
times,
but the problem exist yet .
please help me ,or give me some
advises.
thank you!
$ telnet 192.168.0.1 110
Trying
192.168.0.11...
Connected to 192.168.0.11.
Escape character is
'^]'.
+OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
user 7961 (this is system
account)
+OK
pass axdfas (password for 7961)
-ERR authorization
failed
Connection closed by foreign host.
i had tried to use tcpserver or inet to
starting the qmail.but i met the same problem.
my pop3's tcpserver script:
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop-3
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup p01.power1.c
m \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
& (all in one line)
my inet.com script:
pop-3 stream tcp nowait root
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup \ p01.powe
1.com
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir(all in one
line)
|
|
Hi, I had the same problem when trying to start
pop3, so I had to call a friend to setup it. This is my setup - qmail with
vpopmail under tcpserver, run from rc.local (Slakware Linux):
echo "Starting
tcpserver..."
env -
PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin/ezmlm"
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u1001 -g102 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
&
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver
-u1011 -g104 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup bates.eu.com
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir & (all in one
line)
Regards,
Milen Petrinski
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:07
PM
Subject: Please help me ! About pop3
authorization?
my qmail had been installed
successfully.(qmail-1.03,ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz,checkpassword-0.81.tar.gz,
daemontools-0.70.tar.gz)
i can send mail by telneting port
25.
but i cant not pass the pop3
authorization.
my pop3 server is running normally,and
i cat telnet port 110.
pop3 authrization use checkpasswd����authorization failed��
pop3 authrization use vchkpw of Vpopmail����authorization failed��
i have tried a lot of checkpasswd
programes(vpopmail.vmailmgr,authpop��) ,i also reinstall qmail
several times,
but the problem exist yet .
please help me ,or give me some
advises.
thank you!
$ telnet 192.168.0.1 110
Trying
192.168.0.11...
Connected to 192.168.0.11.
Escape character is
'^]'.
+OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
user 7961 (this is system
account)
+OK
pass axdfas (password for 7961)
-ERR authorization
failed
Connection closed by foreign host.
i had tried to use tcpserver or inet to
starting the qmail.but i met the same problem.
my pop3's tcpserver script:
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop-3
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup p01.power1.c
m \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
& (all in one line)
my inet.com script:
pop-3 stream tcp nowait root
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup \ p01.powe
1.com
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir(all in one
line)
|
Did this reach the list?
I am not so sure, so I am sending this again.
Sorry if this is a duplicate, but the problem is rather urgent.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Tulipan
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:30 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Problems with RELAYCLIENT
>
>
> Our setup:
>
> EXCHANGE SERVER <=> Firewall (qmail) <=> Internet
>
> we want the exchange server to relay mails to qmail, and the firewall to
> only accept mails for our domains, except for the exchange server.
>
> As is my understanding I need to set RELAYCLIENT with the help of tcp-env.
> /var/qmail/control then needs to be setup with all valid domains.
>
> Unfortunately I cannot seem to set RELAYCLIENT correctly.
>
> So here is my setup
>
> linux 2.2.16
> qmail 1.03 + QMAILQUEUE patch (which also doesn't seem to work, but never
> mind now)
>
> Starting of qmail in /etc/rc.d/init.d with
>
> qmail-start '|preline procmail' splogger qmail &
>
> my /etc/hosts.allow:
> tcp-env: 192.168.0.xxx,XXX.bsbanksysteme.com: RELAYCLIENT=""; export
> RELAYCLIENT
>
>
> I attached "; echo "`date`-$RELAYCLIENT-" >> /tmp/tcp.test" to test and as
> I see from that file it seems to work.
> When I now add a rcpthosts file I get EMail sent thru the exchange server
> returned:
> 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
>
> So it doesn't look as if the RELAYCLIENT realy does work.
>
> Any ideas how I can test this or verify if any of the variables does get
> set.
>
> a very desperate
> Leonard Tulipan
>
>
just put the exchange server in your /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file
and you should be fine :)
/Martin
Leonard Tulipan wrote:
>
> Did this reach the list?
> I am not so sure, so I am sending this again.
> Sorry if this is a duplicate, but the problem is rather urgent.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leonard Tulipan
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:30 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Problems with RELAYCLIENT
> >
> >
> > Our setup:
> >
> > EXCHANGE SERVER <=> Firewall (qmail) <=> Internet
> >
> > we want the exchange server to relay mails to qmail, and the firewall to
> > only accept mails for our domains, except for the exchange server.
> >
> > As is my understanding I need to set RELAYCLIENT with the help of tcp-env.
> > /var/qmail/control then needs to be setup with all valid domains.
> >
> > Unfortunately I cannot seem to set RELAYCLIENT correctly.
> >
> > So here is my setup
> >
> > linux 2.2.16
> > qmail 1.03 + QMAILQUEUE patch (which also doesn't seem to work, but never
> > mind now)
> >
> > Starting of qmail in /etc/rc.d/init.d with
> >
> > qmail-start '|preline procmail' splogger qmail &
> >
> > my /etc/hosts.allow:
> > tcp-env: 192.168.0.xxx,XXX.bsbanksysteme.com: RELAYCLIENT=""; export
> > RELAYCLIENT
> >
> >
> > I attached "; echo "`date`-$RELAYCLIENT-" >> /tmp/tcp.test" to test and as
> > I see from that file it seems to work.
> > When I now add a rcpthosts file I get EMail sent thru the exchange server
> > returned:
> > 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
> >
> > So it doesn't look as if the RELAYCLIENT realy does work.
> >
> > Any ideas how I can test this or verify if any of the variables does get
> > set.
> >
> > a very desperate
> > Leonard Tulipan
> >
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Jespersen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:26 PM
> To: Leonard Tulipan
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: Problems with RELAYCLIENT
>
> just put the exchange server in your /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file
> and you should be fine :)
>
> /Martin
>
>
Nice idea, but it doesn't work.
I still get: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
I tried to send email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So in theory the message is OK.
But I WANT our exchange server to be able to RELAY.
So the setting of the RELAYCLIENT variable doesn't seem to work.
any ideas of how to debug this?
Could this also be related to Peter Green [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] who says
RedHat 6.2 is a bit weird (we upgraded the kernel to 2.2.17 though). Maybe
the exporting of the enviroment variable or tcp-env don't behave right.
Ciao
Leo
i'm not sure what the problem is, but i have a setup like this:
my machine my.domain.com is allowed to relay to my friends machine
friend.domain.com
all i did to make this work was:
1: i added a mx record for my mahine under his host as priority 20
2: i added his hostname to my rcpthosts file.
now if his server is down, i queue his mails and my server happily
accepts mails for his box....
pretty straightforward, but i might not understand what it is you
want...
/Martin
Leonard Tulipan wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Jespersen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:26 PM
> > To: Leonard Tulipan
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: Problems with RELAYCLIENT
> >
> > just put the exchange server in your /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file
> > and you should be fine :)
> >
> > /Martin
> >
> >
> Nice idea, but it doesn't work.
> I still get: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
>
> I tried to send email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> So in theory the message is OK.
> But I WANT our exchange server to be able to RELAY.
> So the setting of the RELAYCLIENT variable doesn't seem to work.
> any ideas of how to debug this?
>
> Could this also be related to Peter Green [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] who says
> RedHat 6.2 is a bit weird (we upgraded the kernel to 2.2.17 though). Maybe
> the exporting of the enviroment variable or tcp-env don't behave right.
>
> Ciao
> Leo
if you are running qmail-smtpd from inetd.conf you need to read the FAQ that
came with qmail on relaying.
You need to modify the first inetd.conf entry shown in the install file.
JB
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 03:23:48PM +0200, Leonard Tulipan wrote:
#
#
# > -----Original Message-----
# > From: Martin Jespersen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
# > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:26 PM
# > To: Leonard Tulipan
# > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
# > Subject: Re: Problems with RELAYCLIENT
# >
# > just put the exchange server in your /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file
# > and you should be fine :)
# >
# > /Martin
# >
# >
# Nice idea, but it doesn't work.
# I still get: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
#
# I tried to send email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# So in theory the message is OK.
# But I WANT our exchange server to be able to RELAY.
# So the setting of the RELAYCLIENT variable doesn't seem to work.
# any ideas of how to debug this?
#
# Could this also be related to Peter Green [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] who says
# RedHat 6.2 is a bit weird (we upgraded the kernel to 2.2.17 though). Maybe
# the exporting of the enviroment variable or tcp-env don't behave right.
#
#
# Ciao
# Leo
--
Justin Bell
hi,
thanks for the help,
it was the linux ....14 link, having two admins of a server is a right pain!
someone gets half way through upgrading the kernel and gives up - all
without telling me - arghhhh!
hopefully - no error messages is a good sign
thanks
Neil
hi,
I am having problems with
cd ~alias; touch .qmail-postmaster .qmail-mailer-daemon .qmail-root
where is ~alias? is it a directory in /var/qmail/alias that I create, does
it need my name in it?
many thanks
Neil Grant
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:59:25PM +0100, Neil Grant wrote:
> I am having problems with
>
> cd ~alias; touch .qmail-postmaster .qmail-mailer-daemon .qmail-root
>
> where is ~alias? is it a directory in /var/qmail/alias that I create, does
> it need my name in it?
If you followed the installation instructions, ~alias is /var/qmail/alias.
Chris
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:59:25PM +0100, Neil Grant wrote:
> where is ~alias? is it a directory in /var/qmail/alias that I create, does
> it need my name in it?
~ is a common shorthand meaning "the home directory of".
So, ~james means "the home directory of the user james". Likewise ~alias
means "the home directory of the user alias". You should have created a
user alias at an earlier stage in the installation. By default alias's
home directory is /var/qmail/alias.
james
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IE Domain Registry - www.domainregistry.ie - (+353 1) 706 2375
"Managing 4000 customer domains with BIND has been a lot like
herding cats." - Mike Batchelor, on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check it out:
http://securityportal.com/closet/closet20001011.html
It's something we all knew, but it's nice to see
others recognize qmail for it's secure nature.
Steve
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hi,
I've just set up a vdomain (using qmail + vmailmgr) and certainly I've
forgotten something. Can you check my checklist (!) and tell me what am
I missing?
[warning: I did edit the logs/control files I'm reporting to avoid
unneeded clutter, if you think there might be a mistake in any relevant
file, tell me and I'll promptly post it]
- The MX is properly setup on the machine's BIND (you won't be able to
test it though).
- The user is "signoplastcomar". I ran vsetup at is home, and indeed it
contains .qmail-default (with a pipe to vdeliver) and users.cdb and
users directory. Running listvdomain there shows the configured v-users.
Additionally, all the files seem to be properly owned and secured.
- rcpthosts contains 'signoplast.com.ar' and virtualdomains contains
'signoplast.com.ar:signoplastcomar'
- qmail-send was sent a HUP signal. As things werent working, all of
qmail and related daemons were restarted.
Now, when at the command line I test with `mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]`, the logs say:
(...)
Oct 11 09:03:45 www qmail: 971265825.432508 starting delivery 361: msg
103476 to
local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(...)
Oct 11 09:03:45 www qmail: 971265825.470246 delivery 361: failure:
Sorry,_no_mai
lbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
(...)
See? it *is* considering rcpthosts and virtualdomains allright, but
can't find a user that is right there, and I'm not sure of where to look
now ...
lastly, qmail-showctl says:
----
qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 509.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 102, 103, 104, 0, 105, 106, 107, 108.
group ids: 16, 11.
aliasempty:
Default delivery target contains: |preline procmail
Default delivery target contains: /Maildir/
badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
bindroutes: (Default.) No binding routes.
bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is www.scim.net.
checkpassword: Password checking program is checkvpw.
concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.
concurrencypop3d: (Default.) POP-3 daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyqmqpd: (Default.) QMQP daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyqmtpd: (Default.) QMTP daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.
concurrencysmtpd: (Default.) SMTP daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyspop3d: (Default.) SSL POP-3 daemon concurrency is 20.
databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
defaultdomain: Default domain name is scim.net.
defaulthost: Default host name is scim.net.
doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: www.scim.net.
doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is www.scim.net.
helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is www.scim.net.
idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is www.scim.net.
localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes www.scim.net.
locals:
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for localhost.localdomain are delivered locally.
Messages for www.scim.net are delivered locally.
logger: (Default.) Logging is done via: splogger.
me: My name is www.scim.net.
percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
plusdomain: (Default.) Plus domain name is www.scim.net.
qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800
seconds.
rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.localdomain.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at www.scim.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at scim.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at scim.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at langhoff.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at boherdi.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadapajaros-spa.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspa.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspahotel.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at spahotel.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspahotel.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspa.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at spahotel.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadapajaros.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at banys.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at banis.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at voluntariosenlared.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at voluntariosenred.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at intermujer.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at intermujer.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at rmb.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at e-transurban.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at signoplast.com.ar.
morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 www.scim.net.
smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.
timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
ulimitcpu: (Default.) Maximum amount of CPU time in seconds is
unlimited.
ulimitdata: (Default.) Maximum process data size in kbytes is unlimited.
virtualdomains:
Virtual domain: langhoff.com.ar:ml_langh
Virtual domain: scim.net:scimnet
Virtual domain: scim.com.ar:scimnet
Virtual domain: boherdi.com.ar:boherdi
Virtual domain: posadapajaros-spa.com:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspahotel.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspa.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: spahotel.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: posadapajaros.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspa.com:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspahotel.com:posada
Virtual domain: spahotel.net:posada
Virtual domain: intercosta.com:intercosta
Virtual domain: intercosta.net:intercosta
Virtual domain: intercosta.com.ar:intercosta
Virtual domain: voluntariosenlared.com:voluntarios
Virtual domain: reinotc.com.ar:reinotc
Virtual domain: intermujer.com:intermujer
Virtual domain: banys.com.ar:banys
Virtual domain: banis.com.ar:banys
Virtual domain: intermujer.com:intermujer
Virtual domain: intermujer.net:intermujer
Virtual domain: rmb.com.ar:rmb
Virtual domain: e-transurban.com:transurban
Virtual domain: signoplast.com.ar:signoplastcomar
---
Thanks alot for reading this long post ... if you think you got a hint,
even a faint one, drop me a line, I'll be thankful.
martin
on to part II:
I though there was something fishy with the user, so
- removed the user I was using (signoplastcomar)
- # /usr/sbin/useradd signo
- # su signo
- $ cd
- $ vsetup
- $ vadduser test
- $ exit
- # vi /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
changed the line related to signoplast to read
...
signoplast.com.ar:signo
...
"/etc/qmail/control/virtualdomains" 26L, 608C written
- # ps ax | grep send
18465 ? S 0:03 qmail-send
19882 pts/1 R 0:00 grep send
- # kill -HUP 18465
- # mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test 01
dd
Cc:
- # grep 'test@signoplast' /var/log/maillog
Oct 11 10:19:37 www qmail: 971270377.250487 starting delivery 467: msg
103457 to
local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- # grep 'delivery 467' /var/log/maillog
Oct 11 10:19:37 www qmail: 971270377.250487 starting delivery 467: msg
103457 to
local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 11 10:19:37 www qmail: 971270377.288180 delivery 467: failure:
Sorry,_no_mai
lbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
mmmmh!? What am I missing??? can *anyone* tell anything?
martin
USE DIBIAN !!!!!!!!!!!
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Graphic Rezidew wrote:
> No.
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
> >
> > Thank you for your suggestion,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
also sprach markloky:
> Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
Okay, aside from the less helpful remarks you've received, I wouldn't
suggest running anything after RedHat 6.1. I've encountered some weird
problems with 6.2, and IIRC 7.0 shipped with a highly experimental compiler
and glibc. Blech. (I just saw on another mailing list where something broke
because of it.)
Further, RPMv4 is NOT backwards-compatible (for one, it compresses all man
pages by default, breaking numerous old .spec files). RedHat has really
become a disappointment. We have about 20 RH servers here, run qmail on RH
6.1 w/o a problem...but they are making some stupid decisions, IMO.
HTH!
/pg
--
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---
> I don't have time right now, or I'd offer to write it.
Is this the official Debian slogan??
(Seen in some news exchange, contributed by Mike Coleman)
* Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001011 08:46]:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Graphic Rezidew wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> > > Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
> > No.
> USE DIBIAN !!!!!!!!!!!
Mental note to self: don't ever install Debilian Linux. The legendary
"Debian Nazis on #E" were a bunch of demented morons. You, however, are
a demented, dyslexic Italian moron. No good.
OpDeadRat: don't ever install a .0 on a production machine. And do
install the full errata tree. And follow both their ML as well as
bugtraq. On the plus side, they don't install sendmail by default.
In short: upgrade to Free- or OpenBSD.
* Peter Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001011 08:52]:
> also sprach markloky:
> > Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
>
> Okay, aside from the less helpful remarks you've received, I wouldn't
> suggest running anything after RedHat 6.1. I've encountered some weird
> problems with 6.2,
As per usual, you had to install the errata. Wasn't as bad as 6.1,
though.
> and IIRC 7.0 shipped with a highly experimental compiler and glibc.
> Blech. (I just saw on another mailing list where something broke
> because of it.)
Probably the lusers pathetic attempt at emulating intelligence. kgcc is
certainly one of RH's weirder ideas, but it's fully documented. Don't
run Un*x if you're not prepared to read.
> We have about 20 RH servers here, run qmail on RH 6.1 w/o a
> problem...but they are making some stupid decisions, IMO.
DeadRat 7.0 tries to address some security problems. Which is good. 6.1
is certainly too old to run on a server unless you have something good
between it and the internet.
Solaris 8, or OpenBSD, for security and stability.
Justin Bell wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> # Hi,
> #
> # Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
> #
> # Thank you for your suggestion,
>
> Debian
>
> --
> Justin Bell
--
Rob Hines Jr.
System Administrator
Phone: (317)469-4535
Fax: (317)469-4508
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://www.joboptions.com
All OSes have their security problems, even the famous
OpenBSD. I would agree that OpenBSD is probably the
best choice for a person that is going to use the
default install, but if aren't familiar with what your
using, that can be risky.
We just recently installed Solaris on our new
production server, and out of the box, it is far worse
off than RH in my opinion. It had just about ever
service turned on. That's not necessarily a bad
thing, unless you aren't one to lock down your system.
Use what you are familiar and comfortable with. If
you know Linux, and, more importantly, know how to
secure it, use it. Same thing for Solaris and *BSD.
To answer your original question, I've used qmail on
RH 6.2 for awhile now without any serious problem.
The only problem I ran into was with Norton ghost and
RH 6.2. Between 6.1 and 6.2, RH switch from a 1K to a
4K cluster size and Norton Ghost didn't like it (I
ghost everything so I can easily restore if needed).
My qmail server has been up for over 100 days now.
(that's not very long, but that is when I originally
installed it).
A couple of suggestions, first increase the the
/proc/sys/fs/inode-max value (I believe I set mine to
16384, but you should base your values on the amount
of RAM you have). I ran out of inodes at one point,
but I increased the value and went on without any
trouble.
More importantly, don't forget to apply all necessary
security fixes from RH's web site.
I don't know about RH 7.0. From what I've been
reading, I would recommend staying away from it for
now.
I hope this helps,
Steve
--- "Rob Hines Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Solaris 8, or OpenBSD, for security and stability.
>
> Justin Bell wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo
> wrote:
> > # Hi,
> > #
> > # Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or
> Redhat Linux 6.2??
> > #
> > # Thank you for your suggestion,
> >
> > Debian
> >
> > --
> > Justin Bell
>
> --
> Rob Hines Jr.
> System Administrator
>
> Phone: (317)469-4535
> Fax: (317)469-4508
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> URL: http://www.joboptions.com
>
>
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Quoting Graphic Rezidew ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> > Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
> No.
After reading this, I would have to agree (re: redhat 7.0 buggy daemon
causing crash after 3 weeks):
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/11/1341237
Aaron
hi,
thanks for the help on previous posts.
I am now stuck trying to find syslog - its not in /var/log as far as I can
tell
I have qmail running but echo to:neil | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject doesnt
work,
Neil
try
echo | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject neil
Milen
> hi,
>
> thanks for the help on previous posts.
>
> I am now stuck trying to find syslog - its not in /var/log as far as I can
> tell
>
> I have qmail running but echo to:neil | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
doesnt
> work,
>
> Neil
>
>
I would like to increase qmail's concurrencyremote from the default 20 to
40. When I create:
/var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
and put a value of 40 in the file,
I restart qmail and get the error:
Oct 10 16:53:14 server qmail: 971211194.211356 alert: cannot start: unable
to read controls
Any help on this would be great.
~Doug
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 05:36:50PM -0400, Doug Schmidt wrote:
>
> I would like to increase qmail's concurrencyremote from the default 20 to
> 40. When I create:
> /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
> and put a value of 40 in the file,
> I restart qmail and get the error:
> Oct 10 16:53:14 server qmail: 971211194.211356 alert: cannot start: unable
> to read controls
>
> Any help on this would be great.
Check permissions on /var/qmail/control and all files therein.
PGP signature
Doug Schmidt wrote:
> I would like to increase qmail's concurrencyremote from the default 20 to
> 40. When I create:
> /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
> and put a value of 40 in the file,
> I restart qmail and get the error:
> Oct 10 16:53:14 server qmail: 971211194.211356 alert: cannot start: unable
> to read controls
Could be a matter of permissions. What are the permissions of your control
directory and the control files now? On my machine, the control directory
is owned by root:qmail with 755 permissions, and all the files within are
owned by root:root with 644 permissions.
---Kris Kelley
Yep, I found the problem right after sending the message to the list.
control/* are owned by root:root w/ 644 permissions. When I originally
created the file as root, because of umask, permissions were 640
all is working fine now w/ concurrencyremote at 30. When I make it 40,
I get messages in my maillog that say:
Oct 11 11:24:18 server qmail: 971277858.753401 delivery 1078: deferral:
qmail-spawn_unable_to_create_pipe._(#4.3.0)
Is this becuase the server is running out of memory?
~Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:29 AM
To: QMail Mailing List
Subject: Re: concurrencyremote
Doug Schmidt wrote:
> I would like to increase qmail's concurrencyremote from the default 20 to
> 40. When I create:
> /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
> and put a value of 40 in the file,
> I restart qmail and get the error:
> Oct 10 16:53:14 server qmail: 971211194.211356 alert: cannot start: unable
> to read controls
Could be a matter of permissions. What are the permissions of your control
directory and the control files now? On my machine, the control directory
is owned by root:qmail with 755 permissions, and all the files within are
owned by root:root with 644 permissions.
---Kris Kelley
This is probably an OS limit, I think has relation with the max. file
descriptor that the system can handle, try setting a line line 'ulimit -n
65000' in the script that lunch the qmail-smtpd process.
What OS/Version are you running ?
RDA.-
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Kris Kelley' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; QMail Mailing List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: concurrencyremote
>Yep, I found the problem right after sending the message to the list.
>control/* are owned by root:root w/ 644 permissions. When I originally
>created the file as root, because of umask, permissions were 640
>all is working fine now w/ concurrencyremote at 30. When I make it 40,
>I get messages in my maillog that say:
>
>Oct 11 11:24:18 server qmail: 971277858.753401 delivery 1078: deferral:
>qmail-spawn_unable_to_create_pipe._(#4.3.0)
>
>Is this becuase the server is running out of memory?
>
>~Doug
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:29 AM
>To: QMail Mailing List
>Subject: Re: concurrencyremote
>
>
>Doug Schmidt wrote:
>> I would like to increase qmail's concurrencyremote from the default 20 to
>> 40. When I create:
>> /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
>> and put a value of 40 in the file,
>> I restart qmail and get the error:
>> Oct 10 16:53:14 server qmail: 971211194.211356 alert: cannot start:
unable
>> to read controls
>
>Could be a matter of permissions. What are the permissions of your control
>directory and the control files now? On my machine, the control directory
>is owned by root:qmail with 755 permissions, and all the files within are
>owned by root:root with 644 permissions.
>
>---Kris Kelley
I had the same problem for awhile at around 300 something concurrency. In
/proc/sys/fs, you need to increase the values of some stuff in there.
I just doubled the value of everything until it worked. :)
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Ricardo Albano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:17 PM
To: Doug Schmidt; 'Kris Kelley'; QMail Mailing List
Subject: Re: concurrencyremote
This is probably an OS limit, I think has relation with the max. file
descriptor that the system can handle, try setting a line line 'ulimit -n
65000' in the script that lunch the qmail-smtpd process.
What OS/Version are you running ?
RDA.-
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Kris Kelley' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; QMail Mailing List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: concurrencyremote
>Yep, I found the problem right after sending the message to the list.
>control/* are owned by root:root w/ 644 permissions. When I originally
>created the file as root, because of umask, permissions were 640
>all is working fine now w/ concurrencyremote at 30. When I make it 40,
>I get messages in my maillog that say:
>
>Oct 11 11:24:18 server qmail: 971277858.753401 delivery 1078: deferral:
>qmail-spawn_unable_to_create_pipe._(#4.3.0)
>
>Is this becuase the server is running out of memory?
>
>~Doug
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:29 AM
>To: QMail Mailing List
>Subject: Re: concurrencyremote
>
>
>Doug Schmidt wrote:
>> I would like to increase qmail's concurrencyremote from the default 20 to
>> 40. When I create:
>> /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
>> and put a value of 40 in the file,
>> I restart qmail and get the error:
>> Oct 10 16:53:14 server qmail: 971211194.211356 alert: cannot start:
unable
>> to read controls
>
>Could be a matter of permissions. What are the permissions of your control
>directory and the control files now? On my machine, the control directory
>is owned by root:qmail with 755 permissions, and all the files within are
>owned by root:root with 644 permissions.
>
>---Kris Kelley
It be runnin' Slowaris 2.7 in 64Bit mode.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ricardo Albano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:17 PM
To: Doug Schmidt; 'Kris Kelley'; QMail Mailing List
Subject: Re: concurrencyremote
This is probably an OS limit, I think has relation with the max. file
descriptor that the system can handle, try setting a line line 'ulimit -n
65000' in the script that lunch the qmail-smtpd process.
What OS/Version are you running ?
RDA.-
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Kris Kelley' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; QMail Mailing List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: concurrencyremote
>Yep, I found the problem right after sending the message to the list.
>control/* are owned by root:root w/ 644 permissions. When I originally
>created the file as root, because of umask, permissions were 640
>all is working fine now w/ concurrencyremote at 30. When I make it 40,
>I get messages in my maillog that say:
>
>Oct 11 11:24:18 server qmail: 971277858.753401 delivery 1078: deferral:
>qmail-spawn_unable_to_create_pipe._(#4.3.0)
>
>Is this becuase the server is running out of memory?
>
>~Doug
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:29 AM
>To: QMail Mailing List
>Subject: Re: concurrencyremote
>
>
>Doug Schmidt wrote:
>> I would like to increase qmail's concurrencyremote from the default 20 to
>> 40. When I create:
>> /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
>> and put a value of 40 in the file,
>> I restart qmail and get the error:
>> Oct 10 16:53:14 server qmail: 971211194.211356 alert: cannot start:
unable
>> to read controls
>
>Could be a matter of permissions. What are the permissions of your control
>directory and the control files now? On my machine, the control directory
>is owned by root:qmail with 755 permissions, and all the files within are
>owned by root:root with 644 permissions.
>
>---Kris Kelley
I can't believe that someone actually said this. You don't want *NIX
then, boot up your Windows box and have at it.
Paul Farber
Farber Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ph 570-628-5303
Fax 570-628-5545
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Mike Glover wrote:
> Okay, so does anybody know of a "real" MUA that is X-enhanced?
> Sorry, but "pretty" is more of a concern to me than "works
> properly in strange situations". I would prefer "not outright
> broken" and "not vaporware", though.
>
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:04:14 PDT, Mike Glover wrote:
> Okay, so does anybody know of a "real" MUA that is X-enhanced?
> Sorry, but "pretty" is more of a concern to me than "works
> properly in strange situations". I would prefer "not outright
> broken" and "not vaporware", though.
I personally like EXMH and use it both at work and at home.
http://www.beedub.com/exmh/
It doesn't support IMAP, but can use POP3 for accessing email. The
interface is decent (for an application written in Tcl/Tk). It can
also be customized, handles PGP signatures very well and does well
with MIME attachments too... :-)
Andy
Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Under X? Try Gnus. It doesn't just work properly in strange
>situations, it works properly in normal situations as well! And it is
>the MOST real MUA you will ever find. It can be pretty...run it under
>XEmacs.
I think we need a Gnus "deprogrammer". Socha's infected another
one. :-)
>However, if you are going to be making this a 'standard' program for
>new users, then I recommend Gnus. If it is going to be for management,
>you want them to have a real nice interface, and you're going to have
>to give them a short tutorial. So you will want to use...guess
>it...Gnus!
You're new users and management must be exceptional. I've never had
any luck getting ours to use Emacs for editing, much less for mail or
news reading. If you do go this route, prepare to provide *lots* of
handholding.
>I would never have been so blunt about an MUA a week ago, but
>seriously, I underestimated the power of Gnus. I am using it now, and
>the normal day-to-day stuff is real simple once you've figured it
>out. Do the world a favour, and start your staff/yourself using
>Gnus. You won't regret it.
It could easily be a regrettable decision. It's not right for every
one, in every environment.
I've been using Emacs for ~20 years, and Gnus for ~8 years, so I'm
well aware of the advantages and the disadvantages. I've recently
switched to Gnus for some of my high-volume, low signal/noise lists,
but I still prefer VM for "real" mail.
I use mutt at home, but it's character-based only. The growing
popularity of HTML-only mail is making mutt less and less
tolerable. Sure, it can (and for me does) fork lynx to view HTML
messages, but that's quite clunky and annoying.
For newbies and bosses, Netscape Messenger is my standard
recommendation.
-Dave
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Dave Sill wrote:
> Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Under X? Try Gnus. It doesn't just work properly in strange
> >situations, it works properly in normal situations as well! And it is
> >the MOST real MUA you will ever find. It can be pretty...run it under
> >XEmacs.
>
> I think we need a Gnus "deprogrammer". Socha's infected another
> one. :-)
Wow. Does that mean a dark van's gonna show up, drag Brett kicking and
screaming away in it to some dingy motelroom where they deprive him of
sleep preaching and teaching the microsoft way????
RUN BRETT, RUN!!!!! DON'T HIDE, THEY'LL FIND YOU AND PUT YOU IN THAT
ROOM WITH THE FLYING WINDOWS!!!!
Vince.
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Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Dave Sill wrote:
>
> > Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Under X? Try Gnus. It doesn't just work properly in strange
> > >situations, it works properly in normal situations as well! And it is
> > >the MOST real MUA you will ever find. It can be pretty...run it under
> > >XEmacs.
> >
> > I think we need a Gnus "deprogrammer". Socha's infected another
> > one. :-)
>
> Wow. Does that mean a dark van's gonna show up, drag Brett kicking and
> screaming away in it to some dingy motelroom where they deprive him of
> sleep preaching and teaching the microsoft way????
>
> RUN BRETT, RUN!!!!! DON'T HIDE, THEY'LL FIND YOU AND PUT YOU IN THAT
> ROOM WITH THE FLYING WINDOWS!!!!
>
> Vince.
Oh no! What do I do?!
/me jumps for the flying window only to see it...well...fly away.
Doh!
/me realises he can send the Microsoft preachers insane
Unix Unix Unix... OI OI OI!
/BR
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behind her drew repeated lines with his pencil across the back of her
plastic chair." - Lars
Peter van Dijk wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0600, Vern Hart wrote:
> > For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products
> > which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an
> > ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby
> > Doll" tshirt.
> >
> > http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/
>
> I'd go out and borrow somebody's creditcard right now if they were black
> instead of white, and a bit cheaper for European customers.
A bit cheeper - come on - I would buy a few - but the shipping is
outrageous !
Can anything be done about this ? you never know you might sell alot
more!
Greg Cope
<who would buy a t shirt if the shipping were less than the tshirt!>
>
> Greetz, Peter
> --
> dataloss networks
> '/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:31:22AM +0000, Greg Cope wrote:
> Peter van Dijk wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0600, Vern Hart wrote:
> > > For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products
> > > which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an
> > > ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby
> > > Doll" tshirt.
> > >
> > > http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/
> >
> > I'd go out and borrow somebody's creditcard right now if they were black
> > instead of white, and a bit cheaper for European customers.
>
> A bit cheeper - come on - I would buy a few - but the shipping is
> outrageous !
Hey! Give the guy a break. He's gone to the trouble of finding a vendor
that will do small quantities. He made the designs available to that
vendor and he's already asked whether someone in Europe will help
look for a similar vendor in your part of the world (expressly to
reduce costs) and this is the response you give him?
> Can anything be done about this ? you never know you might sell alot
> more!
Yeah. Why not help the guy find a vendor near you and make yourself
a hero?
Regards.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:31:22AM +0000, Greg Cope wrote:
> > Peter van Dijk wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0600, Vern Hart wrote:
> > > > For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products
> > > > which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an
> > > > ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby
> > > > Doll" tshirt.
> > > >
> > > > http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/
> > >
> > > I'd go out and borrow somebody's creditcard right now if they were black
> > > instead of white, and a bit cheaper for European customers.
> >
> > A bit cheeper - come on - I would buy a few - but the shipping is
> > outrageous !
>
> Hey! Give the guy a break. He's gone to the trouble of finding a vendor
> that will do small quantities. He made the designs available to that
> vendor and he's already asked whether someone in Europe will help
> look for a similar vendor in your part of the world (expressly to
> reduce costs) and this is the response you give him?
I was only asking if something could be done about shipping costs - calm
down!
I did not realise that he had asked for European help .... I do not know
any Online Tshirt vendors here in the UK.
> > Can anything be done about this ? you never know you might sell alot
> > more!
>
> Yeah. Why not help the guy find a vendor near you and make yourself
> a hero?
Wow ...
No offence meant.
Greg
>
> Regards.
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:36:59PM +0000, Greg Cope wrote:
> I was only asking if something could be done about shipping costs - calm
> down!
I'm entirely calm. I just don't like seeing people who do the right thing
given a hard time. Many people have complained about the shipping cost -
as if he has some control over it - and no one has come forward
to help. I feel sorry for him.
Regards.
Today, wolfgang zeikat wrote:
>
> would you add ash gray long sleeve too?
You can always ask. Now that they have gray tshirts, the color
is no longer an issue. Send them an email letting them know someone
wants one and maybe they'll get enough requests for it...
They are: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cheers,
Vern
Today, Greg Cope wrote:
>
> A bit cheaper - come on - I would buy a few - but the shipping is
> outrageous !
Wow, you're right! I wonder why they don't just use the USPS Global
Priority Mail...
> Can anything be done about this ? you never know you might sell alot
> more!
Well, they charge $4 (plus $1.50 per additional items) to ship in
the US... You could have them ship it to me and then I can ship it
to you via Global Priority Mail. GPM is $9 for whatever I can stuff
into a 9.5"x12.5" cardboard envelope (not to exceed 4 pounds). Then
you could just pay me for the second leg.
How much does a tshirt weigh? I'm pretty sure I could stuff 3
tshirts into one of those envelopes, maybe 4.
That would change shipping to:
QTY SHIPPING
1 $13.00
2 14.50
3 16.00*
4 17.50*
* Assuming I can stuff 3 or 4 shirts into an envelope and they
weigh less than 4 pounds. Otherwise, add $9 for another
envelope.
Mouse pads will also fit quite nicely into these envelopes but don't
even consider a mug. :-)
The only catch: I don't have a way of accepting credit cards (at
least not internationally). I have paypal but you have to be in the
US to set up an account. Anyone know of any other options?
Vern
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:03:05AM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
> The queues aren't bad now, we're pretty good about prompty removing any
> addresses that are bad, and total garbage emails don't even get subscribed
> to the list.
>
> Doesn't really matter if we lose a queue.
Good. A perfect candidate for either a MFS or RAM disk.
> I did play with memory
> filesystems a couple of months ago, and I got worse performance on that than
> I did on the 30GB IDE drive on the machine!
Hmm. That is interesting. I was speculating that all that fsyncing to a
memory file system would be a big win. I might have to play with it a bit
to see if I get similar results to you.
> I think I may have figured out
> a way to distribute the queue across multiple servers. I just have to
> figure out if ezmlm would still be able to handle bounces OK.
You probably have this already, but a number of large list players use
a dedicated bounce machine by the simple expedient of setting the verp
address to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] or somesuch.
As you're thinking, a lot of people significantly reduce the timers
in ezmlm (and -idx has command line options for this) to keep the bounce
state to a reasonable size.
It does mean extra work propogating the unsub back to the list, but it
may well be that you are already propogating it back to, say, a database
anyway...
Regards.
Nod, I agree.. However the people I work with and especially my boss are all
in love with Majordomo and I even bring up the subject of moving to another
list server and I get stared at.... So I'm stuck with Majordomo and qmail.
--JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Bradford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Qmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
> Thus said "James Stevens" on Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:38:01 PDT:
>
> > list at a time without a queue delay.... Right now 'Majordomo' funnels
all
> > messages into qmail via qmail-send and anything that gets queued after
that
> > has to wait for the current queue to get done. To get around this I plan
on
> > setting up multiple qmails under the same server each having it's own
queue
>
> You might consider installing ezmlm or ezmlm-idx over majordomo---it is
> integrated pretty tightly with qmail and would probably increase the
> performance as well. majordomo is almost as much as beast compared to
> ezmlm as sendmail is compared to qmail. :-)
>
> Andy
> --
> [-----------[system uptime]--------------------------------------------]
> 10:29pm up 4 days, 1:56, 3 users, load average: 1.41, 1.31, 1.27
>
>
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, James Stevens wrote:
> Thanks! .. ;)
>
> The machine I'm running qmail on has like a full c block assigned to it and
> a RAID5 array so I don't think the disk i/o will be a problem ?? But if
> needed I also have a RAID1 Array setup on it with twin 20gigs so I could
> place the secound qmail over there but I think the RAID5 should be fast
> enough for it.... Thoughts?
Depending on how the RAID5 is setup, it can actually be slower than a
single disk! Especially on data writes. RAID5 is a compromise between data
safety, i/o speed and price. A decent RAID1 or RAID 1+0 will cost a little
more (depending on your needs), but the performance will be better as
well.
You mention 20GB drive, something tells me these are IDE. Again, a price
vs performance tradeoff as a good SCSI setup will leave the top of the
line IDE setup in the dust, but will also cost a pretty penny.
Either way, I'd move the queue to a RAID1 setup instead of RAID5.
$.02
Bill Carlson
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Virtual Hospital http://www.vh.org/ | not my employer's.
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Thus said "James Stevens" on Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:04:13 PDT:
> Nod, I agree.. However the people I work with and especially my boss are all
> in love with Majordomo and I even bring up the subject of moving to another
> list server and I get stared at.... So I'm stuck with Majordomo and qmail.
Hmm, how did you convince them to move to qmail over sendmail? Maybe
mentioning the fact that they will gain significant performance, as
well as automated bounce handling. Of course, if you enjoy deleting
all those bounces (maybe that's your job security) then maybe majordomo
is the right tool. :-) I'm sure if your boss was receiving all the
bounces he would have a different opinion... I know how difficult it
can be to get management to understand.
Andy
--
[-----------[system uptime]--------------------------------------------]
8:27pm up 4 days, 23:54, 4 users, load average: 1.39, 1.51, 1.44
I've been running qmail for a while now on my linux box (pent-133, 32MB of
ram), but in
the last week or so, I notice that when users attempting to connect via
their MUA (usually
windows clients), qmail is taking upwards of 60-90 seconds to respond, and
I am using the
-H and -R options with tcpserver. I do notice entries of tcpserver
appearing about once per
minute on qmail-pop3d. Also, when I try to telnet to the mail server from
another machine
on my lan which is allowed to do so, I notice a delay as well in getting
the ESMTP greet
message.
Does anyone have ideas what is going on? We wind up processing less than
250 emails
a day, so it should be a load related issue (load avgs are generally less
than 0.20)
-Bill
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 07:37:07AM -0700, Bill Parker wrote:
> minute on qmail-pop3d. Also, when I try to telnet to the mail server from
> another machine
> on my lan which is allowed to do so, I notice a delay as well in getting
> the ESMTP greet message.
Perhaps there is a problem looking up the reverse DNS entry for your own
mail server. Can your mail server resolver a PTR for the interface
address that tcpserver is listening on?
(The -l option to tcpserver can stop it doing this, but determining to
root cause of the problem is likely to be more useful)
james
--
James Raftery (JBR54)
IE Domain Registry - www.domainregistry.ie - (+353 1) 706 2375
"Managing 4000 customer domains with BIND has been a lot like
herding cats." - Mike Batchelor, on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 04:46 PM 10/11/00 +0100, you wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 07:37:07AM -0700, Bill Parker wrote:
> > minute on qmail-pop3d. Also, when I try to telnet to the mail server from
> > another machine
> > on my lan which is allowed to do so, I notice a delay as well in getting
> > the ESMTP greet message.
>
>Perhaps there is a problem looking up the reverse DNS entry for your own
>mail server. Can your mail server resolver a PTR for the interface
>address that tcpserver is listening on?
The only type of DNS i'm running on the mail server (and other two linux
boxen) is a
caching DNS, but I must admit I am very weak in DNS (it's so blasted
confusing) :-(,
could you help me out here?
>(The -l option to tcpserver can stop it doing this, but determining to
>root cause of the problem is likely to be more useful)
Hmmm, I will look at the -l option, but you are correct, fixing the root
cause is the
proper step to do (if you fix it right the first time, saves headaches later).
-Bill
|
Hey all,
I got my qmail tshirt and I put
it on according to the directions in Dave's LWQT, but the big logo is on the
front of the shirt. How can I get the big qmail logo to be on the back and the
little one to be on the front?
I've tried taking it off and
switching it around, and the logo is in the right place but then the shirt is
inside out. Then when I take it off and put it on again I'm back where I
started.
I think it's a relaying problem
between my ears. Any thoughts?
-=Andy
|
Sorry, I just cannot resist answering that:
Take it off again.
Now see, that the logos are on the outside (this is the default when you
first unpack it)
Now hold it in front of you. turn it, so that the big logo faces you.
Now put it on. it should be right.
If you still have problems try re-compiling (cut out the logos an put them
on a fresh shirt.
First you have to make clean; make shirt or simply
buy new-shirt - depending on your platform
Cheers
Leo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Meuse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: installing qmail tshirt-HELP please respond!!!
>
> Hey all,
>
> I got my qmail tshirt and I put it on according to the directions in
> Dave's LWQT, but the big logo is on the front of the shirt. How can I get
> the big qmail logo to be on the back and the little one to be on the
> front?
> I've tried taking it off and switching it around, and the logo is in
> the right place but then the shirt is inside out. Then when I take it off
> and put it on again I'm back where I started.
> I think it's a relaying problem between my ears. Any thoughts?
>
> -=Andy
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:48:37AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I got my qmail tshirt and I put it on according to the directions
> in Dave's LWQT, but the big logo is on the front of the shirt. How
> can I get the big qmail logo to be on the back and the little one
> to be on the front? I've tried taking it off and switching it
> around, and the logo is in the right place but then the shirt is
> inside out. Then when I take it off and put it on again I'm back
> where I started. I think it's a relaying problem between my ears.
> Any thoughts?
>
> -=Andy
What Do The Logos Say?(tm)
--
Tim
This is too hilarious.
*rotfl*
Henrik.
At 04:04 PM 10/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:48:37AM -0400, Andy Meuse wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I got my qmail tshirt and I put it on according to the directions
> > in Dave's LWQT, but the big logo is on the front of the shirt. How
> > can I get the big qmail logo to be on the back and the little one
> > to be on the front? I've tried taking it off and switching it
> > around, and the logo is in the right place but then the shirt is
> > inside out. Then when I take it off and put it on again I'm back
> > where I started. I think it's a relaying problem between my ears.
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > -=Andy
>
>What Do The Logos Say?(tm)
>
>--
>Tim
I beleive I patched and compiled qmail-smtp correctly with qmail-smtp-auth
and replaced the original file with it. The way I start qmail is with
tcpserver with the following script:
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
-u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
/bin/checkpassword /bin/true /bin/cmd5checkpw /bin/true 2>&1
I have /bin/checkpassword and /bin/cmd5checkpw, is there somthing that I
might be missing, please let me know and thank you in advance.
Also I checked the FAQ for qmail-smtp-auth and the only explanatin it
provided was that I might want to run checkpassword as suid 'root'. I
don't
beleive this is it because checkpassword runs well for authenticating my
pop3 server.
Brian Pinkney
Brian Pinkney wrote:
> I beleive I patched and compiled qmail-smtp correctly with qmail-smtp-auth
> and replaced the original file with it. The way I start qmail is with
> tcpserver with the following script:
>
[snip]
>
> Also I checked the FAQ for qmail-smtp-auth and the only explanatin it
> provided was that I might want to run checkpassword as suid 'root'. I
> don't beleive this is it because checkpassword runs well for
authenticating
> my pop3 server.
Your pop3 server is probably already running with root permissions, so by
the time checkpassword is fired up, it has approval to look at your
/etc/shadow file. qmail-smtpd runs as qmaild, not root, so checkpassword
will not initially have permission to look at /etc/shadow, hence, the need
to make the program suid root.
---Kris Kelley
I hope no one has to go through this one ever again...
A server's hard drive was failing, so I made an iso image of it and wrote it
on a CD...
Put a new drive in, install Linux, install qmail, copy the setting, create
the users, copy the aliases and voilla...
except for one little thingy... mkisofs likes to change certain chars into
others... The one that "hurt" me the most was the ":" turned in to a "-"...
guess what happens to all your aliases in the form of name.something...
The worst part was, that when the server came up again, its seconary server
tried to deliver around 160 mails... all addresses to the aliases... And
they all got bounced back.... :-(
It is not an error that is to blame on qmail, I know, I just wanted to warn
anyone who might have the same idea of creating an iso image as backup... Go
through the mkisofs options very carefully!!!!
Goran
P.S.: Sorry to disturb the list, but I just had to get this off my chest...
:)
It looks strange in qmail-local.c as of qmail 1.03
line 648 in qmail-local.c is written
while ((k > i) && (cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
'\t'))
cmds.s[--k] = 0;
Because && has higher precedence than ||,
I suppose that was meant to be written was
while ((k > i) && ((cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
'\t')))
cmds.s[--k] = 0;
this could lead to strange behaviour for a .qmail starting
with just tabs followed by a newline. As strange behaviour I
mean referencing the array with index -1
Sorry if I'm mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong
thanks & regards
Erik Sjoelund
Erik Sjoelund wrote:
>
> It looks strange in qmail-local.c as of qmail 1.03
>
> line 648 in qmail-local.c is written
> while ((k > i) && (cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
> '\t'))
> cmds.s[--k] = 0;
>
> Because && has higher precedence than ||,
> I suppose that was meant to be written was
>
> while ((k > i) && ((cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
> '\t')))
> cmds.s[--k] = 0;
>
> this could lead to strange behaviour for a .qmail starting
> with just tabs followed by a newline. As strange behaviour I
> mean referencing the array with index -1
>
> Sorry if I'm mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong
>
> thanks & regards
> Erik Sjoelund
i just tested it with a .qmail file only containing one line consisting of 3 tabs and
a newline...
the log says:
Oct 11 19:53:02 mother qmail: 971286782.258799 delivery 3: deferral:
Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
/Martin
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Erik Sjoelund wrote:
> It looks strange in qmail-local.c as of qmail 1.03
>
> line 648 in qmail-local.c is written
> while ((k > i) && (cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
> '\t'))
> cmds.s[--k] = 0;
>
>
> Because && has higher precedence than ||,
> I suppose that was meant to be written was
>
> while ((k > i) && ((cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
> '\t')))
> cmds.s[--k] = 0;
>
> this could lead to strange behaviour for a .qmail starting
> with just tabs followed by a newline. As strange behaviour I
> mean referencing the array with index -1
>
> Sorry if I'm mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong
Given that the dot-qmail man pages says:
...
.qmail may contain extra spaces and tabs at the end of a
line. Blank lines are allowed, but not for the first line
of .qmail.
...
it's not really a bug.
--
Regards
Peter
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:47:08PM +0200, Erik Sjoelund wrote:
> It looks strange in qmail-local.c as of qmail 1.03
>
> line 648 in qmail-local.c is written
> while ((k > i) && (cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
> '\t'))
> cmds.s[--k] = 0;
>
>
> Because && has higher precedence than ||,
> I suppose that was meant to be written was
>
> while ((k > i) && ((cmds.s[k - 1] == ' ') || (cmds.s[k - 1] ==
> '\t')))
> cmds.s[--k] = 0;
>
> this could lead to strange behaviour for a .qmail starting
> with just tabs followed by a newline. As strange behaviour I
> mean referencing the array with index -1
Actually, yes. You can make it read -1, but not with tabs. It will only
read -1 when the line consists of *just* a \n.
Exception: if you can arrange for the string in memory that contains the
.qmail file contents to be prepended *immediately* with one or more
tabs, it will actually read more than -1, -2 and so on, and these will
be overwritten with 0-bytes. Wouldn't know how to fix this tho.
It's a bug, and it's an overflow-like one, but it doesn't seem
exploitable just now. Scares the shit out of me nonetheless.
Greetz, Peter
--
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
Peter van Dijk writes:
> It's a bug, and it's an overflow-like one, but it doesn't seem
> exploitable just now. Scares the shit out of me nonetheless.
You are confused. The qmail-local program runs with the permissions of
the user who owns the .qmail file. The treatment of bogus .qmail files
has no relevance to security.
---Dan
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:22:22AM +0200, Goran Blazic wrote:
[snip]
> But ok... I'll try this also... How do I convince qmail to link up to
> another mail server without sending anything, just doing ETRN and receiveing
> mail from it?
qmail doesn't do ETRN. Write up a couple lines of shell which use nc to
do ETRN, or use fetchmail to trigger etrn.
Here's the stuff I make ppp run on connect:
massive# cat /usr/local/bin/etrn.sh
#!/bin/sh
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok
svc -a /var/service/qmail-send
/usr/local/bin/nc etrn.vuurwerk.nl 25 < /etc/ppp/vuurwerk.nc.in
massive# cat /etc/ppp/vuurwerk.nc.in
EHLO mail.dataloss.net
ETRN dataloss.net
ETRN attic.vuurwerk.nl
QUIT
Greetz, Peter
--
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bill Carlson wrote:
> Depending on how the RAID5 is setup, it can actually be slower than a
> single disk! Especially on data writes. RAID5 is a compromise between data
> safety, i/o speed and price. A decent RAID1 or RAID 1+0 will cost a little
> more (depending on your needs), but the performance will be better as
> well.
This is only true for cheap hardware and/or small numbers of drives.
> You mention 20GB drive, something tells me these are IDE. Again, a price
> vs performance tradeoff as a good SCSI setup will leave the top of the
> line IDE setup in the dust, but will also cost a pretty penny.
The platter speed and not maxing out your controller bandwidth is the real
issue. Get 10Krpm SCSI drives and don't plug too many into a controller
(no more than 7 active on a U160 controller for example, preferably less).
> Either way, I'd move the queue to a RAID1 setup instead of RAID5.
Note that most decent hardware or software RAID implementations stripe
reads from RAID-1, so a RAID-1+0 of n drives would get roughly the same
read performance as a RAID-0 of the same number of drives or a RAID-5 of
n+1 drives.
Unfortunately, writes to RAID-1 cannot be striped, so you will get
theoretically half the write speed of an n-drive RAID-0 or n+1-drive
RAID-5. This assumes there is no latency due to RAID-5 parity calcs
(which an SMP server with lots of cycles to spare for software RAID
or a modern hardware RAID controller with a large cache can usually
accomplish) and that you're not maxing out your controller or bus
bandwidth.
The real downside to RAID-5 these days is degraded-mode performance. That
is, when a drive dies and the controller or kernel has to "recreate" the
missing data based on the parity on other drives on the fly. RAID-1 (and
thus RAID-0+1) don't have this problem as the data on each drive is copied
exactly to it's mate and thus doesn't need to be "recreated" for reads
when crippled.
My personal favorite for performance, reliability, price and size is
RAID-5+5, but that gets into some very *large* array sizes... (16x18GB
SCSI drives between 4 controllers yields 9x18GB worth of usable space but
you can lose an entire controller or up to one drive off each controller
and still have a working array). And at those sizes price is usually no
object so companies tend to rely on outsourced-management BCV 3-way
RAID-0+1 anyway...
But this is a religious argument that has been hashed out repeatedly on
many mailing lists I've been on in past years. The RAID-1 crowd and the
RAID-5 crowd never gain converts as neither seems to be able to produce
controlled benchmarks convincing enough to sway the other. My suggestion
is to test, test, test under your environment or the best approximation
you can fabricate, and pick what works best for you.
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Jeremy Stanley, Information Security Specialist Foveon Corporation
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hi,
next problem is:
The message will show up immediately in your mailbox, and syslog ...
everything appears fine in syslog but the email doesnt end up in my mailbox
(in pine) and /var/qmail/users/neil/
the /var/qmail/users/neil/Mailbox is being found by pine but doing:
echo to:neil | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
doesnt add any messages to the Mailbox file
thanks
Neil
Quoting Neil Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> hi,
>
> next problem is:
> The message will show up immediately in your mailbox, and syslog ...
Based on what you said below, I don't get it. You said below it *does
not* show up in your mailbox. Are you stating what is *supposed* to
happen? Yes, that's what is supposed to happen. Attention to detail
is the key...
> everything appears fine in syslog but the email doesnt end up in my mailbox
> (in pine) and /var/qmail/users/neil/
The logs may appear fine to *you*. You should show us what they say.
Aaron
sorry, bit more info:
running rh6.2 i386
doing: echo to:neil | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
produces, in /var/log/maillog:
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188500 new msg 98684
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188813 info msg 98684: bytes 198
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 560 uid 0
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307047 starting delivery 10: msg
98684 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307229 status: local 1/10 remote
0/20
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.387881 delivery 10: success:
did_1+0+0/
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388085 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388146 end msg 98684
but pine or cat /var/qmail/user/neil/Mailbox doesnt show the new message
and I am expecting it to (quote from test-deliver):
The message will show up immediately in your mailbox, and syslog....
thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron L. Meehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: problems ... again
> Quoting Neil Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > hi,
> >
> > next problem is:
> > The message will show up immediately in your mailbox, and syslog ...
>
> Based on what you said below, I don't get it. You said below it *does
> not* show up in your mailbox. Are you stating what is *supposed* to
> happen? Yes, that's what is supposed to happen. Attention to detail
> is the key...
>
> > everything appears fine in syslog but the email doesnt end up in my
mailbox
> > (in pine) and /var/qmail/users/neil/
>
> The logs may appear fine to *you*. You should show us what they say.
>
> Aaron
>
Have you looked at how you are starting qmail for your delivery method? if
you dont understand, please post and we will figgure it out for you.
Also does the user neil have a .qmail file in his home dir? also is there a
.qmail-default for the domain? If so what are the contents?
Needs more information, thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 5:36 PM
To: Aaron L. Meehan; qmail
Subject: Re: problems ... again
sorry, bit more info:
running rh6.2 i386
doing: echo to:neil | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
produces, in /var/log/maillog:
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188500 new msg 98684
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188813 info msg 98684: bytes 198
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 560 uid 0
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307047 starting delivery 10: msg
98684 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307229 status: local 1/10 remote
0/20
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.387881 delivery 10: success:
did_1+0+0/
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388085 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20
Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388146 end msg 98684
but pine or cat /var/qmail/user/neil/Mailbox doesnt show the new message
and I am expecting it to (quote from test-deliver):
The message will show up immediately in your mailbox, and syslog....
thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron L. Meehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: problems ... again
> Quoting Neil Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > hi,
> >
> > next problem is:
> > The message will show up immediately in your mailbox, and syslog ...
>
> Based on what you said below, I don't get it. You said below it *does
> not* show up in your mailbox. Are you stating what is *supposed* to
> happen? Yes, that's what is supposed to happen. Attention to detail
> is the key...
>
> > everything appears fine in syslog but the email doesnt end up in my
mailbox
> > (in pine) and /var/qmail/users/neil/
>
> The logs may appear fine to *you*. You should show us what they say.
>
> Aaron
>
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:35:35PM +0100, Neil Grant wrote:
> sorry, bit more info:
> running rh6.2 i386
>
> doing: echo to:neil | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
>
> produces, in /var/log/maillog:
> Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188500 new msg 98684
> Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188813 info msg 98684: bytes 198
> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 560 uid 0
> Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307047 starting delivery 10: msg
> 98684 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307229 status: local 1/10 remote
> 0/20
> Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.387881 delivery 10: success:
> did_1+0+0/
> Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388085 status: local 0/10 remote
> 0/20
> Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388146 end msg 98684
>
> but pine or cat /var/qmail/user/neil/Mailbox doesnt show the new message
How is the mail supposed to end up in /var/qmail/user/neil/Mailbox? What steps
have you taken to make this happen? By default, the mail will be delivered to
~neil/Mailbox, assuming you have messed with /var/qmail/users/assign.
Chris
thanks Chris
the mails have ended up in /home/neil/Mailbox or ~neil/Mailbox (these mean
the same?) like you said
I was being quite thick - pine looks at /var/spool/mail/~user and I have
screwed my links up because i didnt understand what ~user meant
so is ther meant to be a /var /qmail/user directory and is it meant to have
anything in it, or did I just dream that!
so now, I have removed sendmail and binmail - but i need a mailer instead of
/bin/mail - can I link that to pine?
which start up script do I add csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
to? and doesnt it need something to shut it down?
so now pop works and internal to external mail works, but I am lacking
working smtp stuff.
I have 5 qmail processes:
qmails 926 0.0 1.2 1140 396 pts/0 S 01:24 0:00 qmail-send
qmaill 927 0.0 1.3 1112 424 pts/0 S 01:24 0:00 splogger
qmail
root 928 0.0 1.1 1100 340 pts/0 S 01:24 0:00 qmail-lspawn
./Ma
qmailr 929 0.0 1.1 1100 356 pts/0 S 01:24 0:00 qmail-rspawn
qmailq 930 0.0 1.1 1092 352 pts/0 S 01:24 0:00 qmail-clean
I can telnet to 127.0.0.1 and follow the instructions in part 1 of
test.recieve but the mail doesnt get to the mailboxes
thanks for the help
Neil Grant
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Neil Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: problems ... again
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:35:35PM +0100, Neil Grant wrote:
> > sorry, bit more info:
> > running rh6.2 i386
> >
> > doing: echo to:neil | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
> >
> > produces, in /var/log/maillog:
> > Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188500 new msg 98684
> > Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.188813 info msg 98684: bytes
198
> > from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 560 uid 0
> > Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307047 starting delivery 10:
msg
> > 98684 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.307229 status: local 1/10
remote
> > 0/20
> > Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.387881 delivery 10: success:
> > did_1+0+0/
> > Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388085 status: local 0/10
remote
> > 0/20
> > Oct 11 22:24:54 pc93-gui2 qmail: 971299494.388146 end msg 98684
> >
> > but pine or cat /var/qmail/user/neil/Mailbox doesnt show the new message
>
> How is the mail supposed to end up in /var/qmail/user/neil/Mailbox? What
steps
> have you taken to make this happen? By default, the mail will be delivered
to
> ~neil/Mailbox, assuming you have messed with /var/qmail/users/assign.
>
> Chris
>
>>>>> Al Sparks writes:
AS> I notice that your next message is requesting instructions on how
AS> to un-subscribe to the list. Kind of weird to ask detailed
AS> questions like this and then disappear. Makes me wonder what
AS> motivated you to ask the questions.
Why don't you shelve your conspiracy theories, and actually
*read* that "next message":
>>>>> Casey Allen Shobe writes:
CAS> I've been trying for days now to remove a second (and no longer
CAS> used much) account from this list and am having no luck.
See - he's trying to stop getting copies of the list in two
locations, rather than one. Nothing "wierd" about it, nothing
sinister "motivated" the questions.
--
What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time
to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take
arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them.
-- Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356
--- Sten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> Al Sparks writes:
>
> AS> I notice that your next message is requesting instructions on how
> AS> to un-subscribe to the list. Kind of weird to ask detailed
> AS> questions like this and then disappear. Makes me wonder what
> AS> motivated you to ask the questions.
>
> Why don't you shelve your conspiracy theories, and actually
> *read* that "next message":
>
Yeah, yeah. I got a off-list message from Casey pointing that out.
I even answered that question; off list.
> >>>>> Casey Allen Shobe writes:
>
> CAS> I've been trying for days now to remove a second (and no longer
> CAS> used much) account from this list and am having no luck.
>
> See - he's trying to stop getting copies of the list in two
> locations, rather than one. Nothing "wierd" about it, nothing
> sinister "motivated" the questions.
Ok already. Your point is already made.
=== Al
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 06:04:01PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> HI one and all...
>
> I am currently delivering mail to our remote servers via NFS, and we are
> having problems with NFS delivery. Now, while NFS v3 may fix this (when it
> finally arrives), at the moment I can't use NFS delivery for our mail. So, I
> need to reroute all mail that would normally be delivered 'locally' to a
> Maildir (which is some of our users, not all), to be delivered via SMTP to
> our other servers. I figured a .qmail in the user's home dir which used |
> forward "$LOCAL"@kermit.hillsong.com (kermit being the remote server, and
> .qmail physically residing remotely even though it appears local due to the
> wonders of NFS!) would do it, then I remembered that this .qmail file
> resides remotely, and so when the mail arrives at the remote server, it will
> be passed through | forward again, and again...looping.
>
> So, what is the best advice I can get here? I need users to be able to go
> outside our network and use POP to retrieve mail (they talk to our main
> server, which picks up their mail from the appropriate NFS share), which
> they can do at the moment, so killing the NFS share and replacing it with a
> skeleton home dir structure isn't an option...
So, from another message I hear that you deliver mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to /home/city/jrandom/something, right?
OK. Every user gets the same .qmail:
|cityforward
Then you write cityforward, which does the following:
1. checks the current directory
2. looks up the correct mailserver for the /city/ portion of the pwd.
3. forwards the mail to that server
How's that?
-dsr-
-dsr- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 06:04:01PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > HI one and all...
> >
>
> OK. Every user gets the same .qmail:
>
> |cityforward
>
> Then you write cityforward, which does the following:
>
> 1. checks the current directory
> 2. looks up the correct mailserver for the /city/ portion of the pwd.
> 3. forwards the mail to that server
>
> How's that?
OK...a small diagram is in order
/~~~~~~~\
| I'NET |
\~~~~~~~/
| SMTP/POP
/-------\
|MailSvr|
\-------/
/\
SMTP/POP / \ SMTP/POP
/ \
/ \
/-----------\ /-------------\
|CityMailSvr| |LondonMailSvr|
| /nfs/city | | /nfs/london |
\-----------/ \-------------/
OK As you can see, /nfs/city on the City Mail server is mounted as
/nfs/city on the Main mail server, and ditto with /nfs/london. This
means that whatever the main server can see is in the home dir for
each user, is the home dir on both servers. Any .qmail file there is
is used from whichever server. This means that your suggestion would
create a loop, since at each of our subsidiary servers (city, london),
mail to @hillsong.com is attempted to be delivered locally, and if it
can't be then it is relayed through our main server instead to find
where the user actually exists (only the main server contains a
complete database of ALL users). If the city machine were to receive,
forwarded from a .qmail file, an e-mail addressed to the same user, it
would look for a .qmail file in their home dir to see where to deliver
it, and it will be forwarded again, causing a loop.
I have a suspicion that maybe I can use the users/assign mechanism
somehow to forward mail instead of .qmail files - any takers on this
one?
Thanks.
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:00:34AM +1100, Brett Randall wrote:
>
> /~~~~~~~\
> | I'NET |
> \~~~~~~~/
> | SMTP/POP
> /-------\
> |MailSvr|
> \-------/
> /\
> SMTP/POP / \ SMTP/POP
> / \
> / \
> /-----------\ /-------------\
> |CityMailSvr| |LondonMailSvr|
> | /nfs/city | | /nfs/london |
> \-----------/ \-------------/
>
> OK As you can see, /nfs/city on the City Mail server is mounted as
> /nfs/city on the Main mail server, and ditto with /nfs/london. This
> means that whatever the main server can see is in the home dir for
> each user, is the home dir on both servers. Any .qmail file there is
> is used from whichever server. This means that your suggestion would
> create a loop, since at each of our subsidiary servers (city, london),
> mail to @hillsong.com is attempted to be delivered locally, and if it
Ding! You don't forward to @hillsong.com, you forward to @city.hillsong.com.
Anything to hillsong.com is obviously destined for MailSvr; anything to
city.hillsong.com is local.
(BTW, I've been assuming that "city" is a construct meaning "whatever
cities have local servers", and is not a literal. Right?)
-dsr-
-dsr- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ding! You don't forward to @hillsong.com, you forward to @city.hillsong.com.
> Anything to hillsong.com is obviously destined for MailSvr; anything to
> city.hillsong.com is local.
>
> (BTW, I've been assuming that "city" is a construct meaning "whatever
> cities have local servers", and is not a literal. Right?)
>
> -dsr-
OK, but if I forward to @city.hillsong.com (city.hillsong.com being
the actual machine name, set up to receive mail for @hillsong.com and
@city.hillsong.com), then it will still hit the user's .qmail file
there which tries to re-send it to @city.hillsong.com and so
forth. Remember that the .qmail file on the city server and the main
server is one and the same - we are talking about NFS shares here.
I've put some more thought into this. If I have my users/assign file
on my main server, and I make the home folder for each city user in
there something like /nfs/forwarding/city (ie all users have the same
home dir as far as qmail-local is concerned) then put a .qmail file in
there which says:
| forward "$LOCAL"@city.hillsong.com
then I won't have to change the city users .qmail files in their home
dirs, will I? So all mail for city users will be pushed to the city
server. Then as far as outside POP3 is concerned, it reads the passwd
file for the home dir and so it still goes to /nfs/city/user to
collect the mail.
Does this sound like it will work? Have I missed anything?
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> What about something like
>
> | [ "$HOST" != city.hillsong.com ] && { forward "$LOCAL"@city.hillsong.com ; exit 99
>}
> ./Maildir/
I like it...VERY nice! Thanks for this I will try it out...seems to
make very good sense. Didn't know there was a $HOST variable :P
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> What about something like
>
> | [ "$HOST" != city.hillsong.com ] && { forward
> "$LOCAL"@city.hillsong.com ; exit 99 } ./Maildir/
OK I have made the following .qmail file:
| [ "$HOST" != "kermit.hillsong.com" ] && { forward
"$LOCAL"@kermit.hillsong.com ; exit 99 }
./Maildir/
(only 2 lines)
Then when I try and send an e-mail to a test user on kermit (test
machine), it says in the logs:
2000-10-12 11:01:27.222460500 new msg 611
2000-10-12 11:01:27.222494500 info msg 611: bytes 1105 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 6773 uid 0
2000-10-12 11:01:27.319300500 starting delivery 21: msg 611 to local
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2000-10-12 11:01:27.319360500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
2000-10-12 11:01:27.396615500 delivery 21: deferral:
2000-10-12 11:01:27.396659500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
Showing a deferral (presumably the exit 99 is being called). I can't
figure out what's happening...Any ideas? Tx
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
On 12-Oct-2000 Brett Randall wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> What about something like
>>
>> | [ "$HOST" != city.hillsong.com ] && { forward
>> "$LOCAL"@city.hillsong.com ; exit 99 } ./Maildir/
I just realized this is wrong, you want something like
| [ `hostname` != kermit.hillsong.com ] ...
so that qmail-local on the appropriate server can figure
out whether the email is to be delivered locally or not,
$HOST is derived from the address and will always be the
same.
Alternatively start the SMTP servers with an environment
variable that identifies the local server, eg
export THISMACHINE=`hostname`
tcpserver ... qmail-smtpd ...
and
| [ "$THISMACHINE" != kermit.hillsong.com ] ...
>
> OK I have made the following .qmail file:
>
>| [ "$HOST" != "kermit.hillsong.com" ] && { forward
> "$LOCAL"@kermit.hillsong.com ; exit 99 }
> ./Maildir/
> (only 2 lines)
>
> Then when I try and send an e-mail to a test user on kermit (test
> machine), it says in the logs:
>
> 2000-10-12 11:01:27.222460500 new msg 611
> 2000-10-12 11:01:27.222494500 info msg 611: bytes 1105 from
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 6773 uid 0
> 2000-10-12 11:01:27.319300500 starting delivery 21: msg 611 to local
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2000-10-12 11:01:27.319360500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> 2000-10-12 11:01:27.396615500 delivery 21: deferral:
> 2000-10-12 11:01:27.396659500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
>
> Showing a deferral (presumably the exit 99 is being called). I can't
> figure out what's happening...Any ideas? Tx
>
The "exit 99" shouldn't cause a deferral, try adding "exit 0" to
the line:
[ "$THISMACHINE ... ] && { ... ; exit 99 } || exit 0
> --
> /BR
>
> Manager
> InterPlanetary Solutions
> http://ipsware.com/
--
Rick Lyons
WebCentral
On 12-Oct-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Alternatively start the SMTP servers with an environment
> variable that identifies the local server, eg
>
> export THISMACHINE=`hostname`
> tcpserver ... qmail-smtpd ...
>
> and
>
>| [ "$THISMACHINE" != kermit.hillsong.com ] ...
>
Gawd, I shouldn't post until I've had my morning dose of
crack. Of course, I meant in the script that kicks off
qmail-start.
--
Rick Lyons
WebCentral
We have a little script that sends 5 different messages in rapid succession
to one email address. When it gets pointed at our mailserver running MS
Exchange, it works fine, however, when pointed at the qmail box, only the
first message makes it through, the other 4 get delayed or deffered and put
back into the queue (MS Exchange or some MS mailserver thing).
Does qmail limit how fast one host can send messages via smtp?
Here's my tcpserver line:
tcpserver -q -c 500 -x /etc/smtp.cdb -H -l mail.marketwatchmail.com -R -u
503 -g 503 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger
smtpd 3 &
----------
Jay Austad
Network Administrator
CBS Marketwatch
612.817.1271
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://cbs.marketwatch.com
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Quoting Austad, Jay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> We have a little script that sends 5 different messages in rapid succession
> to one email address. When it gets pointed at our mailserver running MS
> Exchange, it works fine, however, when pointed at the qmail box, only the
> first message makes it through, the other 4 get delayed or deffered and put
> back into the queue (MS Exchange or some MS mailserver thing).
Fascinating. I wonder if your exchange server bothers to log the
response from the remote mail server upon delivery, failure, or
deferral? That would help (and even more to show them to us --
I think that shall be my mantra from now on).
> Does qmail limit how fast one host can send messages via smtp?
>
> Here's my tcpserver line:
> tcpserver -q -c 500 -x /etc/smtp.cdb -H -l mail.marketwatchmail.com -R -u
> 503 -g 503 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger
> smtpd 3 &
Since tcpserver is handling the smtp connection, the proper question
would be whether tcpserver itself can limit how fast it will receive
mail. The answer to the question as you put it is "no." However,
tcpserver can limit the number of smtp connections it will accept.
The default is 40 simultaneous connections, and you have actually
specified 500. You would not seem to be crossing that threshold, but
I'm just guessing without seeing any logs--tcpserver's logging will
show if you're going over 500 connections.
Personally, my bet is that the exchange server is puking. Five messages
in rapid succession.. that must put real stress on the bloatware.
Aaron
It's the builtin MS smtp server that come with win2000 internet services. I
couldn't find logs for it, but I forgot to look in the stupid Event viewer.
Here's what I just found:
"Message delivery to the remote domain 'marketwatchmail.com' failed. The
error message is 'The connection was dropped by the remote host.'."
Any ideas why it would drop the connection after only receiving one message?
I couldn't find any errors on the qmail box.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron L. Meehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 5:37 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: smtp speed limit??
Quoting Austad, Jay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> We have a little script that sends 5 different messages in rapid
succession
> to one email address. When it gets pointed at our mailserver running MS
> Exchange, it works fine, however, when pointed at the qmail box, only the
> first message makes it through, the other 4 get delayed or deffered and
put
> back into the queue (MS Exchange or some MS mailserver thing).
Fascinating. I wonder if your exchange server bothers to log the
response from the remote mail server upon delivery, failure, or
deferral? That would help (and even more to show them to us --
I think that shall be my mantra from now on).
> Does qmail limit how fast one host can send messages via smtp?
>
> Here's my tcpserver line:
> tcpserver -q -c 500 -x /etc/smtp.cdb -H -l mail.marketwatchmail.com -R -u
> 503 -g 503 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 |
/var/qmail/bin/splogger
> smtpd 3 &
Since tcpserver is handling the smtp connection, the proper question
would be whether tcpserver itself can limit how fast it will receive
mail. The answer to the question as you put it is "no." However,
tcpserver can limit the number of smtp connections it will accept.
The default is 40 simultaneous connections, and you have actually
specified 500. You would not seem to be crossing that threshold, but
I'm just guessing without seeing any logs--tcpserver's logging will
show if you're going over 500 connections.
Personally, my bet is that the exchange server is puking. Five messages
in rapid succession.. that must put real stress on the bloatware.
Aaron
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:50:46PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
> It's the builtin MS smtp server that come with win2000 internet services. I
> couldn't find logs for it, but I forgot to look in the stupid Event viewer.
> Here's what I just found:
>
> "Message delivery to the remote domain 'marketwatchmail.com' failed. The
> error message is 'The connection was dropped by the remote host.'."
>
> Any ideas why it would drop the connection after only receiving one message?
> I couldn't find any errors on the qmail box.
If I were troubleshooting a communication problem between two hosts, and on one
end of the connection was some piece of Microsoft software, and on the other
end of the connection was some software written by Dan Bernstein, can you guess
where I'd start looking for the problem?
Chris
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:12:42 EDT, Chris Johnson wrote:
> If I were troubleshooting a communication problem between two hosts, and on one
> end of the connection was some piece of Microsoft software, and on the other
> end of the connection was some software written by Dan Bernstein, can you guess
> where I'd start looking for the problem?
I know where I would look, but just because it is DJB's software
doesn't mean that it was configured properly. :-)
Andy
I'm looking here:
http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html
Maybe one of the messages contains an <lf> not preceded by a <cr>. Where
would this be logged on the qmail box?
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:31 PM
To: Chris Johnson
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: smtp speed limit??
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:12:42 EDT, Chris Johnson wrote:
> If I were troubleshooting a communication problem between two hosts, and
on one
> end of the connection was some piece of Microsoft software, and on the
other
> end of the connection was some software written by Dan Bernstein, can you
guess
> where I'd start looking for the problem?
I know where I would look, but just because it is DJB's software
doesn't mean that it was configured properly. :-)
Andy
Hello, how are you?
I'm a rookie in qmail, but I already installed it on my mailserver. What
I am trying to do is to get qmail works the same way as sendmail (using
/var/spool/mail/$USER file). The second thing I am trying to do is to
use /etc/aliases to execute a program to send a message to one pager
once an e-mail comes to one of my users (who appears on aliases files)
For the first topic: I am having problems when I try to send a message
from a remote host,
The message appears to be received but I don't know where to find it on
my mailserver.
the first rc script I tried was:
#!/bin/bash
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start 'dot-forward .forward
./Maildir/'
which works with ~user/Maildir format, and remote mails are received.
When I changed the rc script to the following:
#!/bin/sh
# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using dot-forward to support sendmail-style ~/.forward files.
# Using binmail to deliver messages to /var/spool/mail/$USER by default.
# Using V7 binmail interface: /bin/mail -f
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward \
|preline -f /bin/mail -f "${SENDER:-MAILER-DAEMON}" -d "$USER"' \
splogger qmail
the messages did not appear on my $USER file eventhough they appear to
be sent to my mailserver.
My OS is Linux SuSE V6.3.
For the second topic: I found on fastforward documentation that it does
not support program delivery because it is insecure (in the way sendmail
handle it). they recommend to use qmail's secure built-in mechanisms
instead. (I did not find those secure methods on my qmail documentation,
would somebody help me with this? please tell me where can I find any of
those mechanisms)
Thanks a lot for your cooperation,
Eduardo Rojas.
hi,
this is a repost of a previos problem, which you can find under the
subject "mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)". Basically, sending mail
to users in a new virtual domain returned error #5.1.1.
Directory permissions are set just fine, and the new user/vdomain has
no differencies with other users/domains I have set up. Guided by Petr
Novotny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've included the like `| set
>environment` as the first line of the .qmail-default file, and found qmail never gets
>there. The 5.1.1 error gets triggered earlier...
a brief rehash of my setup:
- [warning: I did edit the logs/control files I'm reporting to avoid
unneeded clutter, if you think there might be a mistake in any relevant
file, tell me and I'll promptly post it]
- The MX is properly setup on the machine's BIND (you won't be able to
test it though -- its an internal machine now).
- The user is "signoplastcomar". I ran vsetup at is home, and indeed it
contains .qmail-default (with a pipe to vdeliver) and users.cdb and
users directory. Running listvdomain there shows the configured v-users.
Additionally, all the files seem to be properly owned and secured.
- rcpthosts contains 'signoplast.com.ar' and virtualdomains contains
'signoplast.com.ar:signoplastcomar'
- qmail-send was sent a HUP signal. As things weren't working, all of
qmail and related daemons were restarted.
Now, when at the command line I test with `mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]`, the logs say:
(...)
Oct 11 09:03:45 www qmail: 971265825.432508 starting delivery 361: msg
103476 to
local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(...)
Oct 11 09:03:45 www qmail: 971265825.470246 delivery 361: failure:
Sorry,_no_mai
lbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
(...)
See? it *is* considering rcpthosts and virtualdomains allright,
but
can't find a user that is right there, and I'm not sure of where to look
now ...
lastly, qmail-showctl says:
----
qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 509.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 102, 103, 104, 0, 105, 106, 107, 108.
group ids: 16, 11.
aliasempty:
Default delivery target contains: |preline procmail
Default delivery target contains: /Maildir/
badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
bindroutes: (Default.) No binding routes.
bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is www.scim.net.
checkpassword: Password checking program is checkvpw.
concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.
concurrencypop3d: (Default.) POP-3 daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyqmqpd: (Default.) QMQP daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyqmtpd: (Default.) QMTP daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.
concurrencysmtpd: (Default.) SMTP daemon concurrency is 20.
concurrencyspop3d: (Default.) SSL POP-3 daemon concurrency is 20.
databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
defaultdomain: Default domain name is scim.net.
defaulthost: Default host name is scim.net.
doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: www.scim.net.
doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is www.scim.net.
helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is www.scim.net.
idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is www.scim.net.
localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes www.scim.net.
locals:
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for localhost.localdomain are delivered locally.
Messages for www.scim.net are delivered locally.
logger: (Default.) Logging is done via: splogger.
me: My name is www.scim.net.
percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
plusdomain: (Default.) Plus domain name is www.scim.net.
qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800
seconds.
rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.localdomain.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at www.scim.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at scim.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at scim.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at langhoff.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at boherdi.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadapajaros-spa.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspa.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspahotel.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at spahotel.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspahotel.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadaspa.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at spahotel.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at posadapajaros.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at banys.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at banis.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at voluntariosenlared.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at voluntariosenred.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at intermujer.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at intermujer.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at rmb.com.ar.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at e-transurban.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at signoplast.com.ar.
morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 www.scim.net.
smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.
timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
ulimitcpu: (Default.) Maximum amount of CPU time in seconds is
unlimited.
ulimitdata: (Default.) Maximum process data size in kbytes is unlimited.
virtualdomains:
Virtual domain: langhoff.com.ar:ml_langh
Virtual domain: scim.net:scimnet
Virtual domain: scim.com.ar:scimnet
Virtual domain: boherdi.com.ar:boherdi
Virtual domain: posadapajaros-spa.com:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspahotel.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspa.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: spahotel.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: posadapajaros.com.ar:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspa.com:posada
Virtual domain: posadaspahotel.com:posada
Virtual domain: spahotel.net:posada
Virtual domain: intercosta.com:intercosta
Virtual domain: intercosta.net:intercosta
Virtual domain: intercosta.com.ar:intercosta
Virtual domain: voluntariosenlared.com:voluntarios
Virtual domain: reinotc.com.ar:reinotc
Virtual domain: intermujer.com:intermujer
Virtual domain: banys.com.ar:banys
Virtual domain: banis.com.ar:banys
Virtual domain: intermujer.com:intermujer
Virtual domain: intermujer.net:intermujer
Virtual domain: rmb.com.ar:rmb
Virtual domain: e-transurban.com:transurban
Virtual domain: signoplast.com.ar:signoplastcomar
---
Thanks alot for reading this long post ... if you think you got
a hint,
even a faint one, drop me a line, I'll be thankful.
martin
Browsing qmail-local.c (investigating the alleged bugreport in another
thread) I noticed something funny:
case '+':
if (str_equal(cmds.s + i + 1,"list"))
flagforwardonly = 1;
break;
It seems that if you put a line '+list' in a .qmail-file, the rest of
the file is treated as if the file was +x.
bash$ grep +list CHANGES
19960228 change: un-documented +list.
19960219 change: added +list support to qmail-alias.
I figured that it was not documented, but does anybody have a clue why
it was un-documented?
Greetz, Peter
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'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:58:34AM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> Browsing qmail-local.c (investigating the alleged bugreport in another
> thread) I noticed something funny:
>
> case '+':
> if (str_equal(cmds.s + i + 1,"list"))
> flagforwardonly = 1;
> break;
>
> It seems that if you put a line '+list' in a .qmail-file, the rest of
> the file is treated as if the file was +x.
>
> bash$ grep +list CHANGES
> 19960228 change: un-documented +list.
> 19960219 change: added +list support to qmail-alias.
>
> I figured that it was not documented, but does anybody have a clue why
> it was un-documented?
Remember qlist and qlist2? Baby list management programs, waaaay before
ezmlm. This was support for them.
They disppeared in 1997 according to CHANGES.
Regards.
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:30:46PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
>
> Remember qlist and qlist2? Baby list management programs, waaaay before
> ezmlm. This was support for them.
Hmm, but then why not leave the documentation in? Enabling
forwarding-only in the middle of an auto-generated .qmail-file seems
quite useful to me.
Greetz, Peter
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hello all.. my problem is follow, i have compiled
the qmail package with mysql support.
but i need only to use plaintext auth.
how i can do this, i searched, for possibilitys
like put them in the sqlcontrol file, nothing found
they write that i should compile them in, i should
edit:
pt : Crypted password of a
user
If you want use plain
password,
modify checkpassword.c , qmail-getpw.c and mysql.c
but which "lines" or how exactly i ditn found
!....
any solutions ? .. thanks
mike
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hi everyone:
I have linux and qmail installed( Sorry, I am a chinese people and poor in English
),I want to make my server can let user configure their mailbox to reject certain
messages by MAIL-FROM,but I don't know how to do.Please help me.
Thanks.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Try http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/
You can configure perl regular expressions to defer certain Headers (like
Subject = I Love You, etc)
You can also do virus checking with this.
Is this what you were looking for?
Ciao
Leo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: szq79 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Incomming message filter
>
> hi everyone:
> I have linux and qmail installed( Sorry, I am a chinese people and poor
> in English ),I want to make my server can let user configure their mailbox
> to reject certain messages by MAIL-FROM,but I don't know how to do.Please
> help me.
> Thanks.
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ______________________________________
>
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> �����Ƴ����˶���Ϣ�ֻ��㲥����
> http://sms.sina.com.cn/
> << Message: Incomming message filter >>
hi everyone:
I have linux and qmail installed. You know, as a webmaster, sometime send a letter
to everyone is needed for a webmaster.I don't know how to do this.Please tell me.
Regards,
Sun Zhiqiang
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Thus said szq79 on Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:03:45:
> I have linux and qmail installed. You know, as a webmaster, sometime send a letter
>to everyone is needed for a webmaster.I don't know how to do this.Please tell me.
There are a number of ways to approach this of which here are two:
1. put all the 'webmaster' usernames in ~alias/.qmail-webmaster as in:
&user1
&user2
&user3
or if webmaster is an actual user on the system,
2. put all the 'webmaster' usernames in ~webmaster/.qmail followed by a
delivery to ./Maildir/ (or ./Mailbox if that is your default delivery
mode). Something like
&user1
&user2
&user3
./Maildir/
This only applies if I have interpreted your email correctly. ;-) If
this doesn't work then I probably misunderstood...
Andy
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12:48am up 5 days, 4:15, 4 users, load average: 1.08, 1.08, 1.08
Is there a way to so that your external mail clients can check mail with
just a user name instead of using user%domain.com?
KRis
Probably you need something like
./configure
with
--enable_ip.... (dont remember now check Install :) )
and also reverse dns zones is a must ...
andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kris Keele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:48 AM
Subject: Vpopmail question
> Is there a way to so that your external mail clients can check mail with
> just a user name instead of using user%domain.com?
>
> KRis
>
>
Kris Keele wrote:
>
> Is there a way to so that your external mail clients can check mail with
> just a user name instead of using user%domain.com?
>
> KRis
You can set up one domain to use just user instead of user%domain.com
add --enable-default-domain=domain.com in your configure options.
The only way to make this work for more than one domain is to
use IP based domains, as opposed to the default name based domains.
Add -enable-ip-alias-domains=y to your configure options and add
the IP's for each domain to your machine. Make sure your DNS
resolves the IP's do the domain name. Then have the users pop
into the IP's for thier domain.
Ken Jones
hi, everyone:
I am a manage of an email server( Sorry, English is't my mother tongue and
my English is poor ). In my server, the messages from most site can be parsed
correctly.But the messages(with attachment)from www.sina.com.cn( a famous
chinese site ) can't be parsed correctly. I found it is because the headers
of messages from sina have no "MIME-Version: 1.0", but all the other site can
parse the message(with attachment) from sina correctly. It is probobly the
question of IMAP, I don't know how to solve this problem.Please help me.
The software in my system is:
Linux 6.2.14-5.0
qmail 1.03
courie-imap 0.32
Regards,
Zhiqiang Sun
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Good evening one and all
Question: I want to strip attachments from bounces, as we are wasting
stacks of bandwidth watching attachments bounce from incorrectly-typed
addresses. What is the best way of doing this?
Thanks
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I run qmail on a linux server and there's
a hard spamming through it.
In my server there are four domain (three are
virtuals).
I set the rcpthosts file with the names of my domains (one per
row).
The problem is that now users of my domains can't send out
mails.
I know that one possible solution is to set the relayclient
file, with ip addresses of my net.
But doing so, I don't allow my users to connect
from other addresses (for instance, the address given by an internet
provider).
The best way is to allow relaying only from "mydomain_1",
"mydomain_2", etc., but anyone can be validated, if tells to my host he is
anyone@mydomain_X, and spamming doesn't stop.
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> I run qmail on a linux server and there's a hard spamming through it.
> In my server there are four domain (three are virtuals).
> I set the rcpthosts file with the names of my domains (one per row).
> The problem is that now users of my domains can't send out mails.
>
> I know that one possible solution is to set the relayclient file,
> with ip addresses of my net.
> But doing so, I don't allow my users to connect from other addresses
> (for instance, the address given by an internet provider).
> The best way is to allow relaying only from "mydomain_1", "mydomain_2", etc.,
> but anyone can be validated, if tells to my host he is anyone@mydomain_X, and
>spamming doesn't stop.
You are NOT the relay server for your clients, their providers are.
You should setup (or ask them to setup) their providers relay server
(for that netblock they belong to) as their smtp server,
this is a one time setup and fairly easy information to get a hold of.
If your customers are on the move and want's a "fixed" smtp server,
you should use SMTP authentication or something like POP-before-SMTP.
SMTP-authentication:
http://www.nimh.org/hacks/qmail-smtpd.c
http://www.elysium.pl/members/brush/qmail-smtpd-auth/
MVH Andr� Paulsberg
