qmail Digest 15 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1154
Topics (messages 50595 through 50622):
Re: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM)
50595 by: Alexander Jernejcic
50608 by: Aaron Newcomb
50609 by: Aaron Newcomb
50610 by: Aaron Newcomb
50611 by: markd.bushwire.net
50615 by: Aaron Newcomb
50617 by: markd.bushwire.net
50619 by: Aaron Newcomb
50620 by: Chris Johnson
50621 by: Aaron Newcomb
50622 by: Andy Bradford
Re: a "real" MUA for X?
50596 by: Mark Weinem
Re: Using qmail with other MTA
50597 by: Sebastian Paul Avarvarei
50598 by: markd.bushwire.net
50600 by: Brian Reichert
Looking for a web based mail interface
50599 by: Mark Richmond
Newbie Configuration questions...
50601 by: Todd McGuinness
50602 by: Andy Bradford
Re: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas?
50603 by: Martin Jespersen
Directory ownerships
50604 by: Subba Rao
qmail-1.03 on OpenBSD 2.7 newbie trouble
50605 by: zleepless.nightmail.com
50607 by: Chris K. Young
emergency phone numbers (was: Volunteers for a multilog patch?)
50606 by: Chris K. Young
Could someone clarify POP3-Before SMTP for me?
50612 by: Maillist
50613 by: markd.bushwire.net
fastforward
50614 by: Richard Sj�g�rdh
50616 by: Brett Randall
Checkpassword with Plaintext auth
50618 by: Mike A. Sauvain
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hi
> There must be some way to block this mail from coming through.
> It would be ideal to block based on the HELO response since they can't fake that.
�hem, and what about isp's hosting k's of domains and relaying for customers
with their own domains? the sending mta would have to switch the domain for every mail?
;) a
==============================================
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end
So, are you saying there is no way to block certain hosts in qmail? I find
that hard to believe. Qmail has been a pretty good package so far, and I
can't believe that would be so limited in this area. Also, what do you mean
I will not be able to "receive mail from a large percentage
of the domains on the internet." I have not had any problems up to this
point. Lastly, I am not sure what comment you are trying to make about my
MCSE certification, but I am proud of the training I have had on all the
operating systems I work with whether they be MS, UX, Linux or otherwise.
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 3:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM)
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:29:42PM -0400, Tony Publiski (tonyp) wrote:
> Notice that the HELO and the MAIL FROM: lines have completely different
> domains. The MAIL FROM they are using is a bogus address. What is the best
> way to prevent email like this from being accepted?
You don't. You also will not be able to receive mail from a large
percentage
of the domains on the internet.
> Thanks,
> Aaron Newcomb, MCSE <-- gee, that wasn't obvious.
--Adam
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What about ISP's? I am not one so why should I care?
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 6:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM)
hi
> There must be some way to block this mail from coming through.
> It would be ideal to block based on the HELO response since they can't
fake that.
�hem, and what about isp's hosting k's of domains and relaying for customers
with their own domains? the sending mta would have to switch the domain for
every mail?
;) a
==============================================
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end
Thanks for your advice, Andy. From the documentation I have been able to
find on badmailfrom I am unable to determine if it will block an entire host
or just certain senders addresses. I think in my case I need to block any
mail that originates from a specific host. Otherwise, tomorrow the SPAMers
may just decide to change the bogus MAIL FROM: address they are using. Can
you clear this up? Or point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 2:54 AM
To: Aaron Newcomb
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM)
Thus said "Aaron Newcomb" on Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:19:48 EDT:
> Notice that the HELO and the MAIL FROM: lines have completely different
> domains. The MAIL FROM they are using is a bogus address. What is the best
> way to prevent email like this from being accepted?
Without some hacking you won't be able to block based on the From:
header, however you can block based on the sender envelope. See the
man page for qmail-smtpd which specifically references the use of the
badmailfrom control file.
Andy
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On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:33:54PM -0400, Aaron Newcomb wrote:
> So, are you saying there is no way to block certain hosts in qmail? I find
He might not have been saying it well, but blocking spam is a hard problem.
If you're relatively new to the issue of spammers and how they quickly morph
to avoid spam blocks, you might want to do a bit of research.
> that hard to believe. Qmail has been a pretty good package so far, and I
> can't believe that would be so limited in this area.
It's limited because spam blocking has two severe problems. First there is
no guaranteed way to identify all spam. Second spam filters give you false
negatives. That is, you can accidentally block real mail because your spam
filters are too aggressive.
Perhaps for those reasons, qmail decided to largely stay out of the spam
blocking game and leave it to others.
qmail gives you two methods for blocking spam. badmailfrom if you can identify the
envelope sender of the spammer and tcpserver if you can identify the ip address
of the spammer.
So, to return to your question, what do you mean by "block certain hosts"? Do
you mean their IP address, do you mean their name in the envelope, or do you
mean their name in the mail (such as From:)? Note that a good spammer will
change all of these more quickly than you can eat breakfast...
> point. Lastly, I am not sure what comment you are trying to make about my
> MCSE certification, but I am proud of the training I have had on all the
> operating systems I work with whether they be MS, UX, Linux or otherwise.
He's being facetious. Ignore it. If you're willing to learn, you're more than
welcome on this list.
Regards.
Mark,
Thanks for your comments. They have certainly been the most help so far. I
have been doing some research on the SPAM dilemma over the past couple of
weeks (mostly from the qmail homepage under the Spam prevention section) and
find your remarks to be right on target. I am currently using rblsmtpd to at
least try to combat known SPAMers, but it certainly is not 100% effective
for the reasons you point out below. I have also noticed that I am receiving
quite a bit of SPAM from the same source. So, my goal would be to find a way
to block that host from sending me any more mail. I do realize that I would
be blocking all other users that use that host as their mail server. At the
moment I am using this server as a personal mail server so I am OK with
that. I also realize that the SPAMer could just switch to a different relay
box to send their mail. On this issue only time will tell.
I hope this explains what I am trying to accomplish. If there is a way to do
this with qmail that would be great. Otherwise I guess I could try to use
hosts.deny and see if that works.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 9:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM)
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:33:54PM -0400, Aaron Newcomb wrote:
> So, are you saying there is no way to block certain hosts in qmail? I find
He might not have been saying it well, but blocking spam is a hard problem.
If you're relatively new to the issue of spammers and how they quickly morph
to avoid spam blocks, you might want to do a bit of research.
> that hard to believe. Qmail has been a pretty good package so far, and I
> can't believe that would be so limited in this area.
It's limited because spam blocking has two severe problems. First there is
no guaranteed way to identify all spam. Second spam filters give you false
negatives. That is, you can accidentally block real mail because your spam
filters are too aggressive.
Perhaps for those reasons, qmail decided to largely stay out of the spam
blocking game and leave it to others.
qmail gives you two methods for blocking spam. badmailfrom if you can
identify the
envelope sender of the spammer and tcpserver if you can identify the ip
address
of the spammer.
So, to return to your question, what do you mean by "block certain hosts"?
Do
you mean their IP address, do you mean their name in the envelope, or do you
mean their name in the mail (such as From:)? Note that a good spammer will
change all of these more quickly than you can eat breakfast...
> point. Lastly, I am not sure what comment you are trying to make about my
> MCSE certification, but I am proud of the training I have had on all the
> operating systems I work with whether they be MS, UX, Linux or otherwise.
He's being facetious. Ignore it. If you're willing to learn, you're more
than
welcome on this list.
Regards.
> for the reasons you point out below. I have also noticed that I am receiving
> quite a bit of SPAM from the same source. So, my goal would be to find a way
> to block that host from sending me any more mail. I do realize that I would
You need to explain what you mean by "the same source". Same IP? Same server pool,
same name in the From:?
> I hope this explains what I am trying to accomplish. If there is a way to do
> this with qmail that would be great. Otherwise I guess I could try to use
> hosts.deny and see if that works.
That sounds irrelevant. hosts.deny is normally a tcpwrapper file. Unless
you're running qmail-smtpd out of inetd, hosts.deny is not in the loop.
On the matter of SPAM research. Check out www.abuse.net and spam.abuse.net.
Regards.
Mark,
By the same source I mean that the HELO or EHLO line I see in my log has the
same host name. Also, I use tcpserver to run qmail-smtpd, but if running it
out of inetd would allow me to do what I described earlier maybe I should
think about that. Thanks for your help.
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 10:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM)
> for the reasons you point out below. I have also noticed that I am
receiving
> quite a bit of SPAM from the same source. So, my goal would be to find a
way
> to block that host from sending me any more mail. I do realize that I
would
You need to explain what you mean by "the same source". Same IP? Same server
pool,
same name in the From:?
> I hope this explains what I am trying to accomplish. If there is a way to
do
> this with qmail that would be great. Otherwise I guess I could try to use
> hosts.deny and see if that works.
That sounds irrelevant. hosts.deny is normally a tcpwrapper file. Unless
you're running qmail-smtpd out of inetd, hosts.deny is not in the loop.
On the matter of SPAM research. Check out www.abuse.net and spam.abuse.net.
Regards.
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:45:11PM -0400, Aaron Newcomb wrote:
> Thanks for your advice, Andy. From the documentation I have been able to
> find on badmailfrom I am unable to determine if it will block an entire host
> or just certain senders addresses. I think in my case I need to block any
> mail that originates from a specific host. Otherwise, tomorrow the SPAMers
> may just decide to change the bogus MAIL FROM: address they are using. Can
> you clear this up? Or point me in the right direction?
It's easy to block mail from a specific host. Let's say its IP address is
1.2.3.4.
You can deny the connection in your tcp rules file:
1.2.3.4:deny
Or you can block it with rblsmtpd (even if it's not listed in RSS or ORBS or
whatever you're using) with this in your rules file:
1.2.3.4:allow,"RBLSMTPD=-Go away, fathead!"
What's the IP address of the host that all this spam is coming from?
Chris
Chris,
Yes. That makes sense. I knew there had to be a way. Thanks for the help.
The most offending address is 210.133.28.162.
Thanks,
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 1:07 AM
To: Aaron Newcomb
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM)
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:45:11PM -0400, Aaron Newcomb wrote:
> Thanks for your advice, Andy. From the documentation I have been able to
> find on badmailfrom I am unable to determine if it will block an entire
host
> or just certain senders addresses. I think in my case I need to block any
> mail that originates from a specific host. Otherwise, tomorrow the SPAMers
> may just decide to change the bogus MAIL FROM: address they are using. Can
> you clear this up? Or point me in the right direction?
It's easy to block mail from a specific host. Let's say its IP address is
1.2.3.4.
You can deny the connection in your tcp rules file:
1.2.3.4:deny
Or you can block it with rblsmtpd (even if it's not listed in RSS or ORBS or
whatever you're using) with this in your rules file:
1.2.3.4:allow,"RBLSMTPD=-Go away, fathead!"
What's the IP address of the host that all this spam is coming from?
Chris
Thus said "Aaron Newcomb" on Sun, 15 Oct 2000 01:26:30 EDT:
> Yes. That makes sense. I knew there had to be a way. Thanks for the help.
> The most offending address is 210.133.28.162.
Ok Aaron,
This host is definitely a spammers delight---it's known as an Open
Relay. This means that it will relay email from any email address to
any other. This apparently has been submitted to ORBS, but not yet
made it into RBL. See here:
http://www.orbs.org/verify.php3?address=210.133.28.162
I just tested it myself and the mail did arrive in my mailbox through
their server. What you should do is block it with tcpserver---whatever
you do, don't switch to inetd, you're on the right track with tcpserver.
Do as Chris suggested and then recompile your tcp.smtp.cdb or whatever
you called the cdb. Additionally, you might want to report them to
www.mail-abuse.org as an Open Relay. See the instructions on their
webpage for how to deal with spammers and how to report to them. Once
they are in the RBL they will not be able to send to a large part of
the Internet. (BTW, does anyone really know how many companies/ISPs
use RBL?)
Andy
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:07:17AM -0600, Andy Bradford wrote:
> I personally like EXMH and use it both at work and at home.
> http://www.beedub.com/exmh/
> It doesn't support IMAP, but can use POP3 for accessing email. The
> interface is decent (for an application written in Tcl/Tk). It can
> also be customized, handles PGP signatures very well and does well
> with MIME attachments too... :-)
But it (nmh) doesn't support Maildir.
Ciao
Mark Weinem
Hi,
I'm trying to blend the two MTAs because the second one is part of a groupware system
(Teamware) with a user system independent of Linux's own user system. With sendmail
things work ok, but I want to replace sendmail+inetd with qmail+tcpserver, I like very
much (among other things) the selective relay feature.
As a correction to my precedent mail, the delivery through SMTP is not running very
well either. Qmail doesn't recognize that Teamware is a DSN aware mailer, which is
wrong.
So my question now is: how does qmail establishes if a server is DNS aware or not?
If there are some logs or sample messages that might help in finding the solution,
please let me know.
Best regards,
Sebastian
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brian Reichert (10/13/2000 17:58):
>On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 04:00:00PM +0200, Sebastian Paul Avarvarei wrote:
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I am trying to find ways to use qmail with another MTA (part of a groupware package
>called Teamware Office) on the same machine (RH 6.2). One solution I found is to use
>delivery through SMTP (smtproutes to a secondary SMTP port etc.). Works perfect, but
>it's not exactly what I'm looking for.
>
>I'm confused: why are you trying to blend two MTAs? It's easy
>enough to say, use qmail for incoming and local deliveries, and
>use sendmail for outgoing mail...
>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sebastian Paul Avarvarei
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842
>Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path
Do you mean DSN or DNS?
Can you tell us what the problem is exactly?
Can you show us some delivery logs?
Have you got Teamware listening on an alternate port happily?
Regards.
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:07:00PM +0200, Sebastian Paul Avarvarei wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to blend the two MTAs because the second one is part of a groupware
>system (Teamware) with a user system independent of Linux's own user system. With
>sendmail things work ok, but I want to replace sendmail+inetd with qmail+tcpserver, I
>like very much (among other things) the selective relay feature.
>
> As a correction to my precedent mail, the delivery through SMTP is not running very
>well either. Qmail doesn't recognize that Teamware is a DSN aware mailer, which is
>wrong.
>
> So my question now is: how does qmail establishes if a server is DNS aware or not?
>
> If there are some logs or sample messages that might help in finding the solution,
>please let me know.
>
> Best regards,
> Sebastian
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> Brian Reichert (10/13/2000 17:58):
> >On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 04:00:00PM +0200, Sebastian Paul Avarvarei wrote:
> >> Hello everyone!
> >>
> >> I am trying to find ways to use qmail with another MTA (part of a groupware
>package called Teamware Office) on the same machine (RH 6.2). One solution I found is
>to use delivery through SMTP (smtproutes to a secondary SMTP port etc.). Works
>perfect, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for.
> >
> >I'm confused: why are you trying to blend two MTAs? It's easy
> >enough to say, use qmail for incoming and local deliveries, and
> >use sendmail for outgoing mail...
> >
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Sebastian Paul Avarvarei
> >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >--
> >Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842
> >Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:07:00PM +0200, Sebastian Paul Avarvarei wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to blend the two MTAs because the second one is part of a groupware
>system (Teamware) with a user system independent of Linux's own user system. With
>sendmail things work ok, but I want to replace sendmail+inetd with qmail+tcpserver, I
>like very much (among other things) the selective relay feature.
Well, you _can_ run 'sendmail -bs' (I think) under tcpserver, if
you're trying to get that element of control.
How are you trying to handle relay control?
If you are using 'rcpthosts', then you could maintain a similar list of
hosts with sendmail (from a recent version):
# Hosts that will permit relaying ($=R)
FR-o /etc/mail/relay-domains
If you are trying to use RELAYCLIENT via tcpserver, then you may
be stuck: I don't know how to let sendmail make decisions based on
environment variables.
> So my question now is: how does qmail establishes if a server is DNS aware or not?
I'm missing something: what is a 'DNS aware' MTA?
> If there are some logs or sample messages that might help in finding the solution,
>please let me know.
>
> Best regards,
> Sebastian
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842
Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path
Hello all:
Not really a qmail question but perhaps someone out there has an answer.
I'm looking for hotmail like web mail interface anyone know of one?
-mark
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Airvana Inc.
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Acton MA 01720-3499
Voice: 978-263-9440 x4017
Page: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 888-750-2693
Fax: 978-263-9443
winmail.dat
Hello,
I am currently successfully running qmail with the configuration as
follows below. Being a complete newbie to qmail, I am having some
difficulties - sqwebmail doesn't seem to work with the following
authetication config... The error I receive in the browser window is:
server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration. I have a
couple users on this site and I don't really want to set up virtual
domains, but I do want to pick up mail from the web, any suggestions?
AUTHENTICATION_MODULES="authvchkpw authuserdb authpam"
_____________________________________________________________
qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 501, 502, 503, 0, 504, 505, 506, 507.
group ids: 501, 502.
badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is xxxx.xxx.com.
concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.
concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.
databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
defaultdomain: Default domain name is xxx.com.
defaulthost: Default host name is xxx.com.
doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: xxxx.xxx.com.
doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is xxxx.xxx.com.
helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is xxxx.xxx.com.
idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is xxxx.xxx.com.
localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes xxxx.xxx.com.
locals:
Messages for xxxx.xxx.com are delivered locally.
Messages for mail.xxx.com are delivered locally.
Messages for xxx.com are delivered locally.
me: My name is xxxx.xxx.com.
percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
plusdomain: Plus domain name is xxx.com.
qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.
rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at xxxx.xxx.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mail.xxx.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mail.xxx.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at xxx.com.
morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 xxxx.xxx.com.
smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.
timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
virtualdomains:
defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does.
rcpthosts.lock: I have no idea what this file does.
virtualdomains.lock: I have no idea what this file does.
locals.lock: I have no idea what this file does.
Thus said "Todd McGuinness" on Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:27:06 PDT:
> authetication config... The error I receive in the browser window is:
> server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration. I have a
> couple users on this site and I don't really want to set up virtual
> domains, but I do want to pick up mail from the web, any suggestions?
This question would be more appropriate on the sqwebmail list. The
most common reason why you get this error is because you don't have a
Maildir for it to read. You should also be running qmail in ./Maildir/
delivery mode for mail to be found by sqwebmail at all...
Andy
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Hi all,
My MUA is netscape messanger 4.73 for windows and i am not about to change this so
spare me any
rants about getting another MUA.
I am currently using wu-imapd v4.7 with maildir patch, but i am not quite satisfied
with (the
maildir driver has a few missing features that are really anoying).
So i am trying to get courier imapd 1.1 up and running, and it runs just fine, but...
It refused to create root-level subfolders and i can only create subfolders under the
INBOX.
i have tried to reconfigure/reinstall 10 times now with and without the
--enable-workaround..
i have even tried to modify the source code to use PRIVA as the personal namespace
instead of INBOX
(yeah i changed it everywhere and make check worked fine)
but it is a no-go...
maybe it would work if i completely rewrote the namespace structure of courier-imapd
and changed the
subfolder delimiter from "." to "/" like mh use since mh seems to work fine except
being super-slow
and outdated in alot of ways
is there anyone who is succesfully running courier with support for netscape out there?
going through the sourcecode it seems that courier actually insists that root-level
folders should
reside under ./Maildir/ eg. the trashfolder is file-system wise created as
./Maildir/Trash/
can anyone answer me this: why? isn't this just begging for MUA problems?
*ARGH the pain!*
if anyone knows of ANY imap server that supports Maildir format and Netscape messanger
at the same
time PLEASE tell me, because i am running out of ideas besides coding my own imap
server and i
really don't feel like doing that unless i absolutely have to (i hate coding C -go
figure :)
if only perl was faster then i would make one today, but alas perl is no good for
production-level
daemons.
Regards
Martin Jespersen
I have been using David Sill's qmail startup script until now. I started
tweaking this script, since I have upgrade my distro. Now, I have all my
qmail system setup the way it was.
According to David's startup script, we would be using the "supervise" to
run the tcpserver. These are the following directories that were created
to support this script.
/var/supervise/qmail/send
/var/supervise/qmail/smtpd
/var/log/qmail/send
/var/log/qmail/smtpd
What should be the owner.group settings for this directory be?
The current settings are the following,
drwxr-x--- 3 root qmail 4096 Aug 15 13:40 /var/supervise/
drwxr-xr-x 6 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug 15 13:41 /var/log/qmail/
When I start David's script, I get the following error messages.
* Send Agent Started...
multilog: fatal: unable to switch to current directory: access denied
* Network Agent Started...
multilog: fatal: unable to switch to current directory: access denied
Done.
Thanks for any help.
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I installed qmail, daemontools and ucspi-tcp from the OpenBSD ports.
Then went to the lwq.html and howto for configuration.
I connect through one isp, but usually send/receive mail through other
accounts on different isps.
After creating the supervise/ directories and files, I followed the
step:
echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp
/usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb
no problem with the first line, except that I don't know if /etc/tcp.smtp
was supposed to exist or it just had to be created (in fact it didn't
exist beforehand). The second line is another story. /usr/local/sbin/qmail
did not exist, and looking through the mailing list archives all I saw was a
thread in which someone said to check the magic number (but the file just
doesn't exist!). Another said to make the link to qmail ... to qmail-inject?
or to one of the sendmail symlinks?
Also, I'm a bit confused about the contents of the files in
/var/qmail/control/; I would appreciate a pointer to which file can be
created (assuming I wanted to create them by hand), and what they mean.
Finally, I installed fastforward for using /etc/aliases, but this file is
/etc/mail/aliases in OpenBSD. If I run 'newaliases', it looks for /etc/aliases
instead of /etc/mail/aliases. How can I fix that?
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Quoted from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> no problem with the first line, except that I don't know if /etc/tcp.smtp
> was supposed to exist or it just had to be created (in fact it didn't
> exist beforehand).
You write it yourself.
> The second line is another story. /usr/local/sbin/qmail
> did not exist, and looking through the mailing list archives all I saw was a
> thread in which someone said to check the magic number (but the file just
> doesn't exist!).
You said you read LWQ right? I searched it for the string and found
``sbin'' in several places. You should read section 2.8.2.1 (titled
``The qmail script'', in case the document gets rearranged and someone
is reading this message in the archive) very carefully.
> Also, I'm a bit confused about the contents of the files in
> /var/qmail/control/; I would appreciate a pointer to which file can be
> created (assuming I wanted to create them by hand), and what they mean.
man 5 qmail-control
> Finally, I installed fastforward for using /etc/aliases, but this file is
> /etc/mail/aliases in OpenBSD. If I run 'newaliases', it looks for /etc/aliases
> instead of /etc/mail/aliases. How can I fix that?
ln -s mail/aliases /etc/aliases
---Chris K.
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Auckland, New Zealand |_ afford to have important data on your computer.
http://cloud9.hedgee.com/ |_ ---Tracy R. Reed
Quoted from Peter Samuel:
> - 911 is the emergency number in North America, while it is 000 in
> Oz, 999 in NZ and UK etc.
999 in New Zealand? Not unless you use pulse dialling! :-) (Hint: most
phones in New Zealand do tone dialling. And rotary phones in New Zealand
are labelled backwards to what I've seen in other places.)
A New Zealand station (channel 2, I think) used to screen ``Rescue 911''
(that American programme) on TV, and some kids actually dialled 911 in
an emergency. :-( So since then, channel 2 had another series, ``Rescue
111''.
---Chris K.
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Chris, the Young One |_ If you can't afford a backup system, you can't
Auckland, New Zealand |_ afford to have important data on your computer.
http://cloud9.hedgee.com/ |_ ---Tracy R. Reed
I understand its some sort of an authentication protocol. But could someone
explain how it works or point me to where I can get come answers. Thanks
Brian Pinkney
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:21:48PM -0400, Maillist wrote:
> I understand its some sort of an authentication protocol. But could someone
> explain how it works or point me to where I can get come answers. Thanks
It's really simple. Generally SMTP is an unauthenticated service. That is, you
do not log in to an SMTP server (although you can).
Consequently if someone wants to use your SMTP server to send mail, how do you
decide whether they can or not? The simple way is to say that only certain IP
addresses can use your SMTP server and since you know the IP addresses of your
own network, then it's easy.
But what if your CEO is wandering around the planet dialing in via an ISP and
wants to use your SMTP server to send mail (because they have outlook/eudora/whatever
configured that way and changing it is a pain for a technophobic CEO)?
You have no way of knowing that that particular connection to your SMTP server is
your CEO do you? But if the CEO first collects their mail via POP - which means
identifying themself and their current IP address with a user and password then you
know
that on that IP address is your CEO.
Sooooo. POP before SMTP is all about saying you know who is on a certain IP address
because they just authenticated via the POP server - accordingly your SMTP server
can allow relay connections from that IP address because it's someone you know and
love.
Of course if they are connected via an ISP, then it's likely that the same IP address
will be given to someone else soon enough. This is way most POP before SMTP
implemtations
only retain the authenticated IP address for a short while - say 5-10 minutes.
Regards.
Hi,
I just merged to qmail from sendmail and is using fastforward. As I used
sendmail aliases I could have the same mail delivered locally as well to an
external address. I just wrote:
user: [EMAIL PROTECTED], user
where user is the local user who also want all mails delivered home.
After merging to qmail, this doesn't work anymore.
My aliases ar quite many so I would like to use the old sendmail aliasfile.
Has anyone an idea how this could work in qmail?
/Richard
Richard Sj�g�rdh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> user: [EMAIL PROTECTED], user
> where user is the local user who also want all mails delivered home.
You may want to try using .qmail files if you want the mail to be
delivered to the local user and a remote user. Try the following lines
in the user's $HOME/.qmail
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
./Maildir/
That will accomplish what you want. Basically, having an alias means
that something that isn't real points to a place that is
real. Sendmail's implementation, although the first, is stupid and
incoherent. It doesn't even adhere to the real meaning of the word
alias.
If you have a lot like this (why? Why not just allow home users to
pick up their mail via IMAP if they need access at home and work?),
then you may want to whack up a quick perl or sed script to take care
of it.
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i need to compile checkpassword to use mysql plain- text password only !!
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what are the steps i should do ??
i compiled checkpassword with mysql patch, these works fine, but i see in
the mysql log entry that he reads the crypt and noch the plaintext field as
password. if i let the crypt field empty i can login, so im sure thats only
because checkpwd reads the false..
be coming crazy to find out how i can compile checkpassword
to use plaintext for mysql and qmail, im standing now here....
any body knows what exactly is to do ???
i found some doc files, and web sites but nothing util, you have one other ?
thanks you 4 all ... mike
