qmail Digest 22 Oct 2000 10:00:02 -0000 Issue 1161

Topics (messages 50902 through 50921):

Re: pop3 with virtualdomains
        50902 by: Marco Leeflang

Re: announcement: daemontools 0.70 accustamp patch
        50903 by: Matthias Andree

Re: Flushing Queue
        50904 by: MaD dUCK
        50905 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
        50906 by: MaD dUCK
        50908 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
        50910 by: MaD dUCK
        50912 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
        50914 by: tom.pathfinderschool.com
        50915 by: MaD dUCK
        50921 by: tom.pathfinderschool.com

URGENT Pls
        50907 by: Mohammad K. Ghanbari

Re: problem in pop3d
        50909 by: Alexander Jernejcic
        50916 by: ColonelMustard.catseye.net
        50917 by: Brett Randall
        50918 by: Ryugen C. Fisher
        50919 by: Jeremy Hansen

understand .qmail files
        50911 by: Sebastian Wolfgarten
        50913 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Re: orbs and qmail
        50920 by: Nathan J. Mehl

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Asfihani wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running qmail with some virtualdomains.
> When I'm doing telnet to mail.maydomain.com port 110, I got error message like this:
> 
> darktar~$ telnet mail.mydomain.com 110
> Trying 192.168.0.1...
> Connected to mail.mydomain.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> user asfik%mydomain.com
> +OK
> pass mysecretpass             
> -ERR authorization failed

Which program checks the pop3 passwords, did you change it to  vchkpw ??


greetings,

marco leeflang




Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Nahhhh.  There's already a tai64nunix as well as tai64nfrac.  While I
> think Dan's just a *tad* early, I don't think we should be introducing
> Y2.038K bugs into code that's already been fixed.  I mean, I'm 42 now.
> I'll only be 80 then.  I expect I'll still be programming, and I don't
> want to be in the position of today's coding veterans, who had to
> admit that they let Y2K bugs slip through their fingers.

Like I wrote in the announcement and stated on the web page, the better
approach would be to fix qmailanalog, but I'm not going to do that and
it looks like Dan isn't either, the latest qmailananlog I can find is
0.70 beta dated 1998-08-30.

-- 
Matthias Andree




> What the *hell* are you trying to accomplish?

flush the queue. i must admit though that while my mv command was supposed to
enable backups, it won't work like that since the three files associated with
a message have the same name. but rm'ing all files in the subdirectories given
will flush the queue.

martin

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On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 01:47:27PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote:
> > What the *hell* are you trying to accomplish?
> 
> flush the queue. i must admit though that while my mv command was supposed to
> enable backups, it won't work like that since the three files associated with
> a message have the same name. but rm'ing all files in the subdirectories given
> will flush the queue.

Sure it will. And, as a bonus, it'll fill your log files of nasty queue
consistency errors, and possibly mess up your future queueing.

RC

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> Sure it will. And, as a bonus, it'll fill your log files of nasty queue
> consistency errors, and possibly mess up your future queueing.

i haven't noticed that yet. where else does qmail keep queue info other than
in the files???

martin

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On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 02:52:52PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote:
> > Sure it will. And, as a bonus, it'll fill your log files of nasty queue
> > consistency errors, and possibly mess up your future queueing.
> 
> i haven't noticed that yet. where else does qmail keep queue info other than
> in the files???

It doesn't, AFAIK.
The filenames themselves match the inode of mess/<file>. And the mtime of
info/<file> is used to measure the queue-lifetime of the message. Moving 
the files would blow up the queue (or at least mess it up a little)

RC

P.S. - I've realized my original message looked like a reply to the
"rm'ing" part of yours. Sorry about that. I was talking about moving them.
AFAIK, removing them is safe, unless you have the misfortune of moving
something which is being processed at that exact moment.

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thus spake Ricardo Cerqueira (on Sat, 21 Oct 2000 08:15:21PM +0100):
> P.S. - I've realized my original message looked like a reply to the
> "rm'ing" part of yours. Sorry about that. I was talking about moving them.
> AFAIK, removing them is safe, unless you have the misfortune of moving
> something which is being processed at that exact moment.

but since i moved them outside the /var/qmail/queue directory, in the scope of
the qmail dir, it is as if i had removed them.

martin

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On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 03:27:51PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote:
> thus spake Ricardo Cerqueira (on Sat, 21 Oct 2000 08:15:21PM +0100):
> > P.S. - I've realized my original message looked like a reply to the
> > "rm'ing" part of yours. Sorry about that. I was talking about moving them.
> > AFAIK, removing them is safe, unless you have the misfortune of moving
> > something which is being processed at that exact moment.
> 
> but since i moved them outside the /var/qmail/queue directory, in the scope of
> the qmail dir, it is as if i had removed them.

Yes, but what's the purpose of moving them if you don't intend to re-queue
them later? :-)

RC

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MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i haven't noticed that yet. where else does qmail keep queue info other than
> in the files???

Here are some nice messages in /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/current: 

@4000000039f1f8a0211d498c warning: trouble opening remote/18/146022; will try
again later
@4000000039f1f8a2211df954 warning: trouble opening remote/13/145994; will try
again later




> @4000000039f1f8a0211d498c warning: trouble opening remote/18/146022; will try
> again later
> @4000000039f1f8a2211df954 warning: trouble opening remote/13/145994; will try
> again later

how does it get these??? i mean, once remote/13/145994 is removed, how can
qmail know of it's existence? does it keep track in memory then?

martin

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(greetings from the heart of the sun)




MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> how does it get these??? i mean, once remote/13/145994 is removed, how can
> qmail know of it's existence? does it keep track in memory then?

Okay, I guess that you cannot really flush the queue. Here is what I did to
remove all messages and get a working qmail queue:
# svc -d /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtp
# cd /var/qmail
# mv queue queue.bad
# cd /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03
# make setup check
# svc -u /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtp

--Tom Jackson




Hi

I installed Qmail with mysql patch. POP3 works fine, also qmail-getpw is

OK! but when qmail-getpw is called from SMTP, it waits about 30 seconds
and no query transfer to MYSQL and after that, qmail said

there is no mailbox here ...

Also SMTP works fine with /etc/passwd users but can't deliver mail to
mysql. What is the problem?


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gaurav Parajuli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 10:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: problem in pop3d
> 
> 
> my computer crashes when prince tries to go through
> the secret door of the library. Please provide help. 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf!  It's FREE.
> http://im.yahoo.com/
> 
> 




On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 01:03:41AM -0700, Gaurav Parajuli wrote:
> my computer crashes when prince tries to go through
> the secret door of the library. Please provide help. 

Pop him with the candlestick in the billiard room, instead.




>>>>> "ColonelMustard" == ColonelMustard  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> my computer crashes when prince tries to go through the secret door
>> of the library. Please provide help.

ColonelMustard>  Pop him with the candlestick in the billiard room,
ColonelMustard>  instead.

And make sure to turn on the transegshional oxygen repeater when he
lights the candlestick or otherwise it will burn up all his air (since
the billiard room is mainly CO2 from being closed for the last
century). Watch that he doesn't play pool, either. You don't think
those are really normal balls, do you?
-- 
"But what...is it good for?"

- Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,
commenting on the microchip




At 08:30 PM 10/21/2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 01:03:41AM -0700, Gaurav Parajuli wrote:
> > my computer crashes when prince tries to go through
> > the secret door of the library. Please provide help.
>
>Pop him with the candlestick in the billiard room, instead.


First you have to open the mailbox.... then enter the house....






this is perfect in every way.

-jeremy

On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Gaurav Parajuli wrote:

> my computer crashes when prince tries to go through
> the secret door of the library. Please provide help. 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf!  It's FREE.
> http://im.yahoo.com/
> 

--
What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence.
                -- Wittgenstein





Hi,

I got some questions concerning .qmail files.
I'm installing qmail for the very first time
and now trying to get things done. So first
I run "maildirmake /home/sebastian/Maildir" to
create the maildirectory for the local user sebastian.
Now I must create the .qmail file for this user
and here's my question: How must I name this file
when the user sebastian should get all emails
for user sebastian, must it be "touch /home/sebastian/.qmail-sebastian"?
And what must I type in this file to save the
mail locally in the maildir? Mustn't I modify something
in /var/qmail/alias or users, must I?

Thanks
Sebastian




hi,

> I run "maildirmake /home/sebastian/Maildir" to
> create the maildirectory for the local user sebastian.

hope you did that as user sebastian, if not make a 
"chown sebastian.<GroupOfSebastian> -R home/sebastian/Maildir"
(or equivalent of your OS). 
the user has to be the owner of the Maildir.

> for user sebastian, must it be "touch 
> /home/sebastian/.qmail-sebastian"?
echo ./Maildir/ >.qmail
would do it

> And what must I type in this file to save the
the filename is just .qmail (owner the user! only writeable for the user! e.g. 644)

> Mustn't I modify something
> in /var/qmail/alias or users, must I
nope. if sebastian is a plain system user you do not need to fiddle anywhere else...

suggestion for reading: Dan Sill's excellent Life with Qmail
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html

hope that helps
;) a
 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sebastian Wolfgarten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:43 PM
> To: qmail liste
> Subject: understand .qmail files
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I got some questions concerning .qmail files.
> I'm installing qmail for the very first time
> and now trying to get things done. So first
> I run "maildirmake /home/sebastian/Maildir" to
> create the maildirectory for the local user sebastian.
> Now I must create the .qmail file for this user
> and here's my question: How must I name this file
> when the user sebastian should get all emails
> for user sebastian, must it be "touch /home/sebastian/.qmail-sebastian"?
> And what must I type in this file to save the
> mail locally in the maildir? ?
> 
> Thanks
> Sebastian
> 
> 




In the immortal words of Kevin Waterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > 
> > ORBS doesn't use the abuse.net tests to determine who is
> > an open relay.  
> To quote from the ORBS site
> Try Abuse.Net's new relay tester (requires registration). This is the
> only web-based tester which carries out the same set of tests which ORBS
> does. 

The text on the orbs.org website is, unfortunatly, misleading.  Alan
Brown, the person who is ORBS, has given more cogent explanations of
how the tester works on various mailing lists and newsgroups.

ORBS uses the abuse.net tester...with one VERY important difference:
they actually check to see if the relayed message is received at the
final destination address.  The fact that qmail "accepts" the message
will NOT result in being listed by ORBS: the message would actually
have to be incorrectly relayed for that to happen.

Hopefully, it should be self-evident why the abuse.net tester does not
do this.  (Hint: it would make a great mailbombing service.)

There are many legitimate complaints that people have had about ORBS'
behavior (such as "spite listings" and the fact that its tests
generate spam to postmasters of correctly configured machines), but
even ORBS' most vocal detractors (and I have been one of those) do not
believe that a correctly configured qmail server will, on its own,
generate an ORBS listing.

-n

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