qmail Digest 30 Oct 2000 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1169
Topics (messages 51313 through 51336):
Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on th is list...
51313 by: Robin S. Socha
51316 by: Jason Brooke
51317 by: Brett Randall
51322 by: Andy Bradford
51323 by: Andy Bradford
Re: traffic control and qmail-pop3d
51314 by: Leif Hartmann
Re: SPAM - Help!
51315 by: Jack McKinney
51320 by: Adam McKenna
gcc on Solaris
51318 by: Jon
Pre-complied qmail
51319 by: Jon
Re: FILTERING ATTACHEMENTS
51321 by: Andy Bradford
51324 by: Anthony Abby
51325 by: Andy Bradford
51327 by: Anthony Abby
badmailfrom
51326 by: wolfgang zeikat
Problem with new install...
51328 by: Jon
51330 by: Alex Pennace
Re: What to do about these barelinefeeds?
51329 by: Andrew Richards
where is the mail
51331 by: Alan Chung
51332 by: Brett Randall
51333 by: Chris Johnson
Forward and Reply-To field
51334 by: Davide Dozza
51336 by: Brett Randall
installation Problems [WatchDog checked]
51335 by: Christophe.Andreoli.nse.de
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* Austad, Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why are you such an asshole?
Jay, that is not really the point here, I think. Felix' comment was well
deserved. The ideas presented were braindead. Repeating them doesn't
make them any more useful.
> Who's the owner of this list? I'm getting sick of hearing Felix's
> shit.
Poor Jay, doesn't your Mailtoy have kill function? And speaking of
Mailtoys, yours does not produce reference headers and your quoting is
an abomination. You do know what you're doing the archive of this list,
don't you? Check here:
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/10/threads.html
and check for things like "<Possible follow-up(s)>". *Why* are you doing
this?
As an aside: Felix has helped me set up a working copy of his setup that
solves the abovementioned problem 100% (published here yesterday). Where
is your contribution to solving the problem, Jay?
--
Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/>
> Poor Jay, doesn't your Mailtoy have kill function? And speaking of
> Mailtoys, yours does not produce reference headers and your quoting is
> an abomination. You do know what you're doing the archive of this list,
> don't you? Check here:
> http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/10/threads.html
> and check for things like "<Possible follow-up(s)>". *Why* are you doing
> this?
He might be doing it to annoy you. I know that's why I do it.
jason
>>>>> "Jason" == Jason Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<snip>
Has anyone actually noticed just how screwed the subject of this
thread is? :)
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Thus said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:00:11 MST:
> > and have your *real* address that you give out to people who you want to
> > have a stable address be user-<something>@domain and be careful about
> > revealing that <something>. :)
>
> That's a good idea Russ.
It is a very good idea, however, you have to absolutely trust the
people you give out the extension to. The first time they send out one
of those dumb _forward this to as many people as you can_ type emails
then the cat is out of the bag. You could then delete the extension
and inform them not to do it again and give them a new one. This,
however, only applies if you actually see that they have made such a
blunder. :-)
Andy
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Thus said Brett Randall on 28 Oct 2000 22:28:51 +1100:
> A better alternative, IMHO, is to use a certain anti-spam e-mail
> address (someone on this list uses it but I can't remember who) that
> only lasts like a week, and then its gone. This gives most ppl enuf
> time to reply. This won't cut down your bandwidth, however, but it
> will cut down the spam in your inbox (instead of getting bigger and
> bigger, it will remain constantly low).
His name is Chris. I haven't yet put his system to test yet, but I can
attest that it works pretty nicely. Here is the webpage if you are
interested:
http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html
Andy
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Hi,
>| and if not: is there a pop-server which can do this and which works with
>| vmailmgr??
>
>I don't know about any other Maildir-aware pop3 daemon
>
>| please help, it's very important and i'm searching for such a long time
>now...
>
>Isn't it better to fire up your editor and look for sources ?
I did, but i am not a C-specialist and up to now i wasn't able to find the
right position in the code. Maybe someone of this mailinglist can help me
to find the code where i could log the transfered bytes and the username of
qmail-pop3d.
bye,
Leif
Big Brother tells me that Greg White wrote:
>
> That's what I thought. So, if either of the following two items is true,
> postmaster will still get the bounces:
>
> 1. The relay is not yet listed in an anti-relay domain.
>
> 2. The receiving SMTP host is not using strong anti-spam techniques
> at all, such as rss,rbl,dul,orbs, etc.
In these cases, YOUR postmaster would get the bounce.
> Not helpful in all cases, given the ease of access to a new dialup
> account,
> and sending the forged header messages out through your ISPs
> smarthost...
This is an example of condoning spam. That ISP should have an AUP
against spamming, and the ability to enforce it. I'd like to see ISPs
put a large fine clause in their AUP for spamming... I don't know how
legal it'd be, though...
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 12:15:19AM -0500, Jack McKinney wrote:
> Maybe. If the email is rejected AFTER being accepted by your mail
> server, then your mail server will bounce it based on the headers.
> If it is rejected at the SMTP port of your server (as is typical of
> the relay checking methods such as RBL and ORBS), then the sending mail
> server will generate the bounce. This won't triple bounce at IBM, it
> will triple bounce to _itself_.
You're assuming that mail is getting injected locally. In the vast majority
of spam, it's not. It's getting injected from a throwaway dialup client to
an open relay via SMTP.
--Adam
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Hi,
I am trying to complie Qmail on my Solaris server. I need to try and get it
to use GCC to complie the files, I know I need to edit the conf-cc file but
I don't know what to add in it.
Is it just the path to gcc and nothing else?
Thanks,
Jon
Hi,
Does any know where I can download pre-complied binerys for Qmail for my
Solaris server?
Thanks,
Jon
Thus said "Anthony Abby" on Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:29:41 EDT:
> Can someone point me to documentation or just tell me how I can filter out
> ALL attachements to my smtp server. I'm using Qmail solely in a listserver
> environment and I want to make sure that zero attachements get through. I'm
> new to QMail though and don't readily see how this could be done.
You should use ezmlm as your list management software. It has an
option where you can tell it to strip out attachments of arbitrary MIME
types. I believe this is the -x option. See www.ezmlm.org for more
details and you might consider subscribing to the ezmlm mailing list as
well...
Andy
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Andy, I appreciate the advice, but I like LISTAR much better. The feature
set looks to be fuller to me than does EZMLM. All I want to do is strip out
attachements at the SMTP level. Is that possible?
Thanks
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 1:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Qmaillist
> Subject: Re: FILTERING ATTACHEMENTS
>
>
> Thus said "Anthony Abby" on Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:29:41 EDT:
>
> > Can someone point me to documentation or just tell me how I can
> filter out
> > ALL attachements to my smtp server. I'm using Qmail solely in
> a listserver
> > environment and I want to make sure that zero attachements get
> through. I'm
> > new to QMail though and don't readily see how this could be done.
>
> You should use ezmlm as your list management software. It has an
> option where you can tell it to strip out attachments of arbitrary MIME
> types. I believe this is the -x option. See www.ezmlm.org for more
> details and you might consider subscribing to the ezmlm mailing list as
> well...
>
> Andy
> --
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> 11:46am up 22 days, 16:13, 4 users, load average: 1.33, 1.34, 1.24
>
>
>
Thus said "Anthony Abby" on Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:38:38 EST:
> Andy, I appreciate the advice, but I like LISTAR much better. The feature
> set looks to be fuller to me than does EZMLM. All I want to do is strip out
> attachements at the SMTP level. Is that possible?
No, it is not possible to strip attachments at the SMTP level. SMTP
knows nothing of the contents of the message. SMTP is for mail
transfer only, not filtering. You could roll your own type of
attachment stripping routines though---and possibly even look at how
ezmlm is doing it---that strip attachments before handing it over to
the mailing list software. This would probably need to be done using
a dot-qmail but my guess is that you could do it with a nice perl
script or whatever language you are familiar with. All this seems
unecessarily superfluous since ezmlm already handles this nicely,
but it sounds like you want your own solution... :-)
Andy
p.s. If LISTAR has such a big feature list, why can't it do the
stripping for you?!? ;-)
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> Andy
> p.s. If LISTAR has such a big feature list, why can't it do the
> stripping for you?!? ;-)
> --
It can, but I wanted to do it before the messages got handed off to the
lists. Thanks anayway.
Anthony
is there a way to put all hosts from one domain into badmailfrom?
not all users from one host of that domain as in
@host.domain.com
but all users from all hosts of domain.com ...
Hi,
Just installed qmail, and everything went well - well I think so. I tried
to send some mail though /var/qmail/bin/sendmail from a perl program and got
the following error message back -
qmail-inject: fatal: qq trouble in home directory (#4.3.0)
Any ideas what the problem is? I am using the latest version of qmail on a
Solaris server.
Thanks,
Jon
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 09:21:52PM -0000, jon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just installed qmail, and everything went well - well I think so. I tried
> to send some mail though /var/qmail/bin/sendmail from a perl program and got
> the following error message back -
>
> qmail-inject: fatal: qq trouble in home directory (#4.3.0)
>
> Any ideas what the problem is? I am using the latest version of qmail on a
> Solaris server.
qmail-queue can't chdir into /var/qmail/. Rerun "make setup" to fix
the permissions.
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Hi,
Sorry to resurrect an old thread: I've just looked through the replies,
and no-one seems to have mentioned fixcrio as an alternative solution.
This changes any incoming SMTP bare LFs into CR-LFs. I've used
it on a few systems and haven't heard any complaints yet, although
there is some debate as to whether a bare LF can appear *legally* in
an SMTP message (e.g. part of binary data).
fixcrio is part of DJB's ucspi-tcp-0.88 package. Search the archives
for "fixcrio" for more information - and see the relevant DJB pages.
cheers,
Andrew.
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From: Hubbard, David[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 October 2000 10:35
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: What to do about these barelinefeeds?
Thanks Adam, that is exactly what I needed to know.
I'm assuming that all I need to do is edit qmail-smtpd.c
and change this:
void straynewline() { out("451 See
http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.\r\n"); flush(); _exit(1); }
To:
void straynewline() { out("553 See
http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.\r\n"); flush(); _exit(1); }
Yeah, MS's SMTP service was hitting my server once per
second for a few hours before I noticed, what a piece of
garbage...
Thanks,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 12:19 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: What to do about these barelinefeeds?
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 11:31:01PM -0400, Hubbard, David wrote:
> Thanks, I hadn't seen that link before. I'm sorry, I meant
> that the 256 was the status code I see in my smtpd log.
> But, in searching the archives, I saw reference to people
> saying the bare LF generates a 451 and not a 553. I can't
> verify that since I don't have a mailer to try it with
> but it seems that you'd never want the 451 in this case
> because obviously it will be the same mailer that will
> retry each time and it will continue to be broken for each
> try...
You're right, I grepped my source for it but I forgot that I had modified
the
source to produce a permanent error code instead of a temporary one to avoid
the exact problem you are describing (M$ S(hitty)MTP service hammering my
server.)
I have setup a qmail server and everything looks fine. DNS is setup
correctly pointing to it. There is one thing strange that I can't get mail
from Mailbox. But whenever I restart qmail daemon, those test mails that I
have sent all come in once. I can't find where they are.
Does anyone have a similar experience?
Thanks in advance.
Alan
>>>>> "Alan" == Alan Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alan> I have setup a qmail server and everything looks fine. DNS is
Alan> setup correctly pointing to it. There is one thing strange
Alan> that I can't get mail >From Mailbox. But whenever I restart
Alan> qmail daemon, those test mails that I have sent all come in
Alan> once. I can't find where they are.
When you send a mail, what do the logs say before you restart the
process?
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:54:48AM +0900, Alan Chung wrote:
> I have setup a qmail server and everything looks fine. DNS is setup
> correctly pointing to it. There is one thing strange that I can't get mail
> from Mailbox. But whenever I restart qmail daemon, those test mails that I
> have sent all come in once. I can't find where they are.
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger
Chris
Hi,
I am using qmail and I would like to setup an e-mail account
that simply forward e-mail to a set of users (mailing list).
The problem is that during forwarding I would like to change
the field Reply-To in order people partecipating to the
mailing list can simply reply to the e-mail address of the
mailing list.
As this is a very simple mailing list I wouldn't use mailing
list manager so I would like to do the job simply with
qmail tools.
Any suggestion?
Davide
>>>>> "Davide" == Davide Dozza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Davide> Any suggestion?
http://www.halisp.net/halisp/reply-to-harmful.html
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30.10.2000 10:19 ---------------------------
Christophe Andreoli
26.10.2000 17:34
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Kopie:
Thema: installation Problems
Hi !!
I am not very experienced with linux, but anyway I have to install Qmail on
my SUSE Linux.
I followed the documentation "life with Qmail" but can not start the qmail
Batch ( qmail start). I get a syntax error
although I copied the Qmail file exactly as it is. This syntax error is:
"unexpected end of file".
I don't know Bash programming so much. May be you can help me ?
Thnak you very much !
Here is the Qmail Batch:
(See attached file: qmail.txt)
Text - character set unknown
