Re: ORBS helps hackers to break into srevers

[OK 2 NET - Andr� Paulsberg]

> Qmail is one MTA only, which suports and propagates ORBS "moral" and
> technical thus availablility to connect with qmail platform to ORBS
> and reject mail from listed by ORBS hosts.
>
> Neither sendmail nor postfix is interested with ORBS anty-spam system and don't 
>support ORBS.
> The ORBS system is also by sendmail's and postfix's team not accepted.
> There only qmail administrators may use ORBS.

This is NOT true, and you are way off mark.

1. There is no official support of ORBS to my knowledge from QMAIL and its authors,
   not in the way you are implying in your posting to this list.

2. Sendmail and postfix and ALL other mailprograms/MTA's that support RBL-type 
blocking,
   will automaticly support ORBS and any other lists like it.

3. There are several conserend QMAIL admins how desperatly try to make their
   workload less affected by other mail-administrators poorly secured servers.

4. There are several other mail admins that run other MTA-software,
   who also run with ORBS with or without the "support" of the MTA-vendor.


> If qmail team will resign to support ORBS their criminal story will be finished.
> Also you as qmail propagator too has more to deceide with them.
> This is also great question to you.

You seem to mean that ORBS has done something wrong to you and/or others,
yet you have little or no evidence of your claims about criminal activities.


> In my opinion ORBS - there are hackers supporters and first of all the
> hackers use the effects of its test to search "good" for hacking hosts.

You seemed to have messed up you server and are now blaming ORBS for it,
your hacker visits could JUST aswell found your server like they did
BEFORE you where reported to ORBS and subsequently listed there.


> I have presented it on this list.
> Addtionaly - this is difficult to discuss with ORBS,
> while no person's name, who manage with them has been listed on ORBS WWW page.

His name is Alan Brown, and on his www.orbs.org page he has a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as the contact address which should get you in contact with the adminitrators.


> This is realy last posting form me on this subject and I think
> all has been said. I hope to be reason to think about this problem,
> which depends me personal and as I suppose the many host's admin

You should realy get your server RE-TESTET, if it is secure it will
be removed but this is only possible if you are NOT blocking ORBS.

Your earlyer mails said you where blocking ORBS,
maybe ORBS administrators are TRYING to get in contact with you?


Regards Andr� Paulsberg