qmail Digest 16 Dec 2000 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1215
Topics (messages 54085 through 54130):
Re: Holiday
54085 by: Brett Randall
Help on setting up services
54086 by: rmarcos
Re: Hy.....
54087 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen
Re: Qmail and RFC1894 - Delivery Status Notifications
54088 by: Norbert Bollow
[OT] do you know this MTA(not qmail) error msg?
54089 by: martin langhoff
54091 by: Greg Owen
54101 by: Aaron L. Meehan
Secondary MX (Was: Mail flood in queue)
54090 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen
54097 by: Mark Delany
54100 by: Sam Laffere
No,there are 144000 mails in my queue!!!
54092 by: jf
54093 by: Charles Cazabon
54095 by: Sam Laffere
54096 by: dschaub
54123 by: Irwan Hadi
How can i filter outgoing mail queue!
54094 by: point.mngnet.net
54099 by: Charles Cazabon
54105 by: Jason Haar
Re: 1 000 000 USD to get me rid of my utter frustration
54098 by: David Dyer-Bennet
start script change to support smtp-auth patch
54102 by: Eric Walters
54103 by: Eric Walters
Relay problems
54104 by: Boz Crowther
Strange Things In maillog - ???
54106 by: Jesse Sunday
54107 by: Markus Stumpf
Duplicates in log created by queue_extra
54108 by: Nathan Harmon
54109 by: Charles Cazabon
54110 by: Alex Pennace
54111 by: Peter Samuel
54114 by: Nathan Harmon
54115 by: Peter Samuel
54116 by: Nathan Harmon
54117 by: Markus Stumpf
Virtual Domain Users
54112 by: Jerry A!
54113 by: Charles Cazabon
More on relay problem, something to do with tcpserver
54118 by: Boz Crowther
how to ignore $HOME/.qmail ?
54119 by: Matt Harrington
Qmail support in Australia ?
54120 by: Dennis
54121 by: Mark Delany
54122 by: Dennis
54130 by: Sean Reifschneider
mail-abuse Setups
54124 by: Aaron Goldblatt
54125 by: Richard Lyons
54126 by: Aaron Goldblatt
undeliverable message reappearing ??
54127 by: Dennis
54128 by: Alex Pennace
54129 by: Alex Pennace
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I installed qmail following this page steps:
http://www.europe.redhat.com/documentation/HOWTO/Qmail-VMailMgr-Courier-imap-HOWTO-2.php3
I used binary rpm.
All the binaries installed OK.
Trying to start services i got:
#/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail start
svc-start: Fatal error: Service 'qmail' does not exist.
Can anyone tell me how to create those services and shoy me some init scripts to get
this task automatic on boot?
Thanks in advance.
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+ Seby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Andy Bradford wrote:
|
| > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:17:40 +0200, Seby wrote:
| >
| > > How can i configure qmail to allow a users to send emails only to
| > > the localhost.. and to can not send emails romote (to another host)
| [...] sorry... but a meant to say a specific user not all users.....
Maybe you won't enjoy this answer, but I can't think of any easy way.
To do this sort of thing would probably require quite a bit of hackery
into the qmail innards, and even then it would be pointless because
such a restriction is trivially circumvented: The user could simply
telnet to the SMTP port of another machine, or get a program that
would do so for him.
If you have a problem with a user abusing email privileges, I suggest
you confront him or her about it rather than trying a technical fix
that is most likely to fail or backfire anyway.
- Harald
> Fair enough. Then use something other than the = sign. And if you're
> worried about using a string that ends up being longer than 64
> characters, then use a simple database and send the key that
> identifies the original recipient. Something like:
>
> bounce-dbkey12345678@listhost
>
> then handle the bounce in ~bounce/.qmail-default by looking up the
> database to find the original recipient.
Does someone have working code for this and would be willing to share?
Warm greetings, Norbert.
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hi,
sorry for being OT. I need help to diagnose an errormsg I'm receiving
from a remote MTA -- mainly to show it's the other admin who's in fault.
Or else repair my error and be humble about it :). To make matters
worse, the errormsg is unknown to me: seems to be coming from a box I
think is running WinNT.
The full msg is at the end of this email. The relevant lines seem to
be:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
----- Transcript of session follows -----
451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... reply: read error from
mail1.dacas.com.ar.
553 mail2.dacas.com.ar. config error: mail loops back to me (MX
problem?)
554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Local configuration error
--AAA30448.976851513/ns2.dacas.com.ar
Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; ns2.dacas.com.ar
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.netizen.com.ar
Arrival-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:30 -0300
Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; mail2.dacas.com.ar
Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:33 -0300
-------------------------------------------------------------
now I did an nslookup and got:
reino.com.ar preference = 5, mail exchanger = mail1.dacas.com.ar
reino.com.ar preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail2.dacas.com.ar
It certainly seems I'm on the safe side. But I wanted to check with more
experienced admins, specially because I've never seen such msg.
The bounced msg looks like:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 21300 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2000 11:39:31 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
by 10.10.10.10 with SMTP; 15 Dec 2000 11:39:31 -0000
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from ns.scim.net
by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.5.1)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Fri, 15 Dec 2000
08:39:31 -0300 (ART)
Received: (qmail 5343 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2000 03:28:46 -0000
Received: from mail.dacas.com.ar (HELO bbs.dacas.com.ar) (200.43.156.10)
by scim.com.ar with SMTP; 15 Dec 2000 03:28:46 -0000
X-ROUTED: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:28:14 -0300
Received: from [200.43.156.7] by bbs.dacas.com.ar with smtp
id 004527d8 ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:27:38 -0300
Received: from localhost (localhost)
by ns2.dacas.com.ar (8.9.3/8.8.7) with internal id AAA30448;
Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:33 -0300
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:33 -0300
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="AAA30448.976851513/ns2.dacas.com.ar"
Subject: Returned mail: Local configuration error
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
This is a MIME-encapsulated message
--AAA30448.976851513/ns2.dacas.com.ar
The original message was received at Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:30 -0300
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [200.16.153.4]
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
----- Transcript of session follows -----
451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... reply: read error from
mail1.dacas.com.ar.
553 mail2.dacas.com.ar. config error: mail loops back to me (MX
problem?)
554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Local configuration error
--AAA30448.976851513/ns2.dacas.com.ar
Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; ns2.dacas.com.ar
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.netizen.com.ar
Arrival-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:30 -0300
Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; mail2.dacas.com.ar
Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:33 -0300
--AAA30448.976851513/ns2.dacas.com.ar
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from mail.netizen.com.ar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
[200.16.153.4])
by ns2.dacas.com.ar (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA30446
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:38:30 -0300
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from www (scim.com.ar [200.16.153.141])
by mail.netizen.com.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with
ESMTP id AAA32103;
Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:17:32 -0300
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:17:32 -0300
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Consulta empresarial
explicacion: Esta es una consulta de una empresa al sitio web de Reino
S.A.
nombre y apellido: KRONUS PRODUCCIONES
direccion: PRODUCCION TELEVISIVA Y PUBLICITARIA
localidad: Capital Federal
cp: 1045
ciudad: BS. AS.
provincia: BS. AS.
pais: Argentina
telefono particular: 4953-3692
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
consultas: DESEARIAMOS PONERNOS EN CONTACTO CON LA EMPRESA PARA
OFRECERLES UNA PROPUESTA PUBLICITARIA EN UN PROGRAMA DE TV DE YOGA Y
SALUD.
SALUDOS CORDIALES
Submit: Enviar
--AAA30448.976851513/ns2.dacas.com.ar--
> 553 mail2.dacas.com.ar. config error: mail loops back to me (MX
> problem?)
> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Local configuration error
That is Sendmail. I forget how exactly you cause that error, but it
isn't hard to do, and yes, it is their configuration that needs fixing.
--
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SoftLock.com is now DigitalGoods!
Quoting martin langhoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> sorry for being OT. I need help to diagnose an errormsg I'm receiving
> from a remote MTA -- mainly to show it's the other admin who's in fault.
> Or else repair my error and be humble about it :). To make matters
> worse, the errormsg is unknown to me: seems to be coming from a box I
> think is running WinNT.
The MTA is sendmail. The problem is that sendmail on that machine
does not know it's supposed to handle email for reino.com.ar. This
would be analogous to installing qmail but not putting your domain
into locals, even though there is an MX record pointing to you.
Most people put local domains for sendmail into a file named
sendmail.cw, but they can also be specified in sendmail.cf.
Aaron
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... reply: read error from
> mail1.dacas.com.ar.
> 553 mail2.dacas.com.ar. config error: mail loops back to me (MX
> problem?)
> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Local configuration error
+ "Mark Delany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| > My qmail server is the secondary MX for domain tri.net.
| > mx1.tri.net got flooded with about 28,000 invalid user emails, which
| > overflowed onto my qmail secondary server, mx2.tri.net.
|
| (As an aside. This re-raises the question of whether it is good
| practise to be a secondary MX for another site. I generally think it's
| a bad idea...)
At least if you do, it's very helpful if the two sites have identical
policies with regards to such things as relaying, checking envelope
sender domains and the like. And it's a lot better if the primary MX
does like qmail and accepts mail even for non-existing users, or else
the secondary MX gets saddled with creating bounce messages on behalf
of the other domain. And that is bad indeed. Been there, done that,
got the T-shirt.
- Harald
> | (As an aside. This re-raises the question of whether it is good
> | practise to be a secondary MX for another site. I generally think it's
> | a bad idea...)
>
> At least if you do, it's very helpful if the two sites have identical
> policies with regards to such things as relaying, checking envelope
> sender domains and the like.
That's good advice. Also make sure that you have identical (or
sufficient) resources.
Regards.
Thanks for the input. Here is how it turned out, and my summary of the
situation.
I own both servers, and have been trying to figure out the best
implimentation of redundancy.
By having the secondary server in place, the primary server was slowed down,
but it never failed to accept or deliver mail the whole time. Granted,
while the secondary was trying to feed into the primary, some new incoming
was pushed off onto the secondary.
I feel that this put very little legitimate mail at risk. Keep in mind, I
did not know for sure that I could dump the spam, yet. I only knew that if
I waited long enuf, it would eventually clear out.
My mistake was that I had two virtual domains running on that secondary
server throughout all of this. Lack of time(read as lazyness) is the only
reason that I had never moved them off of this particular server. Incoming
mail for these two domains was working fine, but outgoing mail was being
held up in the queue. Lesson here is do not put primary functions on a
secondary machine. It removes your ability to just turn it off while you
think about the problem.
I responded to 'jf' on his problem, and the fix I used is listed there.
My feeling is that this old 486 I used as a secondary MX cost me almost
nothing and saved my butt by giving some options I would not have had
otherwise. It has been great when my dedicated line customers have had to
be down for a bit, or their servers have gone down to be able to cache their
mail, and tell them that as soon as their server is back up, that I can
provide them all their 'lost' mail.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harald Hanche-Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:51 AM
Subject: Secondary MX (Was: Mail flood in queue)
+ "Mark Delany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| > My qmail server is the secondary MX for domain tri.net.
| > mx1.tri.net got flooded with about 28,000 invalid user emails, which
| > overflowed onto my qmail secondary server, mx2.tri.net.
|
| (As an aside. This re-raises the question of whether it is good
| practise to be a secondary MX for another site. I generally think it's
| a bad idea...)
At least if you do, it's very helpful if the two sites have identical
policies with regards to such things as relaying, checking envelope
sender domains and the like. And it's a lot better if the primary MX
does like qmail and accepts mail even for non-existing users, or else
the secondary MX gets saddled with creating bounce messages on behalf
of the other domain. And that is bad indeed. Been there, done that,
got the T-shirt.
- Harald
Most of them are the same.
Pls tell me how to deal with it.
I have put the mail from address to the badmailfrom,but it wouldn't stop.
I hate Sparm!!!!
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jf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most of them are the same.
> Pls tell me how to deal with it.
There are several approaches you can take:
1. Wait it out. Those messages will eventually all be bounced or delivered,
and your queue will drop back to 0 messages. This will take time.
2. Stop qmail and qmail-smtpd. Use qmHandle (www.qmail.org) to remove the
messages from the queue. Restart qmail and qmail-smtpd. You may have to
repeat this process if the spammer continues to use your domain as his
envelope sender, which is what I assume is causing this.
3. Stop accepting all mail temporarily, bouncing it all immediately.
You could do this by doing:
cp /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts.save
echo "" >/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
This will affect legitimate mail for you as well.
Charles
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Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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JF,
I just had to deal with the same problem. It was a dictionary spam is what
somebody called it. On my server, they where in the remote outgoing queue,
but I believe the fix is the same. Keep in mind, I had never worked with
python, and the little script was a python script. Luckily, my server
already had python installed. The non-existant documentation meant I had to
trial and error this, but here is a summary of what I did.
Go to this location, and get this script onto your server, I put mine in
/var/qmail/bin.
http://www.redwoodsoft.com/~dru/programs/mailRemove.py
Make it executable. chmod +x mailRemove.py
Create the directory filter under qmail/queue. Mine was like this
mkdir /var/qmail/queue/filter
Next run the script in a test-only mode. You can CTRL-C out of it.
python mailRemove.py [search-string]
Since all my spam flood was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] my command looked like
this,
python mailRemove.py registrar
If this runs, then you can do this for real. It moves the spam into the
filter directory. I halted both qmail-send and smtp before doing this. Like
this.
python mailRemove.py --real registrar
I had 28000 spams, and it took about 5 hours to remove 18000 of these. This
server was only a 486/100, 32meg ram. Hopefully it will be lots faster on
a better machine.
While I am here, I wish to thank Mark and Markus for your help yesterday
regarding my problem.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "jf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:09 AM
Subject: No,there are 144000 mails in my queue!!!
Most of them are the same.
Pls tell me how to deal with it.
I have put the mail from address to the badmailfrom,but it wouldn't stop.
I hate Sparm!!!!
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---- 163.net�ؿ�վ��http://ecard.163.net��
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I think that you can also temporarily shorten the time settings for qmail to
return mail within a few hours. Most legitimate mail will be delivered, but
"stuck" mail will get bounced more quickly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: No,there are 144000 mails in my queue!!!
> jf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Most of them are the same.
> > Pls tell me how to deal with it.
>
> There are several approaches you can take:
>
> 1. Wait it out. Those messages will eventually all be bounced or
delivered,
> and your queue will drop back to 0 messages. This will take time.
>
> 2. Stop qmail and qmail-smtpd. Use qmHandle (www.qmail.org) to remove
the
> messages from the queue. Restart qmail and qmail-smtpd. You may have to
> repeat this process if the spammer continues to use your domain as his
> envelope sender, which is what I assume is causing this.
>
> 3. Stop accepting all mail temporarily, bouncing it all immediately.
> You could do this by doing:
> cp /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts.save
> echo "" >/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
> This will affect legitimate mail for you as well.
>
> Charles
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
At 11:09 PM 12/15/00 +0800, jf wrote:
> Most of them are the same.
>
> Pls tell me how to deal with it.
>
> I have put the mail from address to the badmailfrom,but it wouldn't stop.
>
> I hate Sparm!!!!
have you run the rblsmtpd also ?
Hi,
i wanna add some kind of filtering to my outgoing mail traffic to stop some mails with
attachments like mp3's and mpeg's.
How can i do this? Any idea?
Blackman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i wanna add some kind of filtering to my outgoing mail traffic to stop some
> mails with attachments like mp3's and mpeg's.
If this is mail injected via SMTP, set /var/qmail/control/databytes to the
maximum message size you want to allow. If it's locally injected, you'll
need to use something like Bruce Guenter's filtering patches and write a
filter which checks for various attachments. You can find his stuff
at http://em.ca/~bruceg/ .
Charles
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Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 08:04:59PM -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
> i wanna add some kind of filtering to my outgoing mail traffic to stop
> some mails with attachments like mp3's and mpeg's.
Qmail-Scanner is a in-line mail filter used especially for virus scanning
and attachment blocking.
See http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/ for details.
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Cheers
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Unix/Special Projects, Trimble NZ
Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
Franck PORCHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 14 December 2000 at 21:47:18 -1000
> This list may be the ultimate trap.
>
> I've tried so many different things, followed so many advices... but
> still around in utter frustration!
>
> Here follows header lines from the msgs I receive from the qmail mailing
> list:
>
> ...
> >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 01
> 08:51:41 2000 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...
>
> I've sent coutless msgs to :
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That one right there should do it. You say *none* of these addresses
yield any return *at all*? I don't know how to explain that. I note
that your message to the list says it's from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", a
different username. Does mail to both of those usernames reach you
reliably?
I'm sending the unsubscribe message for you, to see if you ever see
the confirmation message (and if you do, try replying, who knows?).
Not being the list-owner, and more importantly, not having
command-line access to ezmlm on list.cr.yp.to, I can't do anything
about directly fixing your problem.
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I have installed/compiled the smtp-auth patch into my qmail installation,
but I cannot figure out what file to modify to add support for it. I am
running qmail 1.03 on freebsd. I tried adding it to
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run, but it does not seem to take.
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Eric
Oh and here is a copy of the run file:
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H -l0 -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
-u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/rblsmtpd
/var/qmail/b
in/qmail-smtpd /bin/checkpassword 2>&1
I did not add the crmd5 piece because I am not sure I need it?
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:58 AM
To: Qmail (E-mail)
Subject: start script change to support smtp-auth patch
I have installed/compiled the smtp-auth patch into my qmail installation,
but I cannot figure out what file to modify to add support for it. I am
running qmail 1.03 on freebsd. I tried adding it to
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run, but it does not seem to take.
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Eric
|
From looking at the archives, I realize this is
about the thousandth of these you've seen, but I couldn't find in there a
solution to my problem. I'm running Mandrake 7.1, qmail 1.03; I installed
qmail following Adam McKenna's HOW-TO, and it works just fine from the
localhost.
However, when I try to use it as an SMTP relay, it
barfs. From Outlook Express I actually get a message that tells me the
mail host dropped the connection suddenly (but, if I hit retry a couple of
times, eventually it goes through). From a little DOS-based command-line
mailer I've got, I get no message, but watching
/var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/current while I'm trying to send shows that the
connection is established and then dropped before I even start typing the body
of the message.
I followed the HOW-TO's instructions on creating
the smtp.tcp.cdb file, and when I check the tcpserver process using ps it shows
that at least on the command line it is specified correctly.
Any suggestions? In fact, the relay and all
the clients are behind a firewall, so even having a completely open relay
wouldn't be terrible, but I would like to know how to do it properly.
Thanks.
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Hello all,
just noticed these in my logs (over and over again) - I eventually
denied all ip access (incoming) - Have any of you seen this
before??? What was happening??? Below are the
contents of my 'maillog' - Thanks!!!
tcpserver: pid 49682 from
203.252.5.27
tcpserver: ok 49682 flashburn-x.parview.com:192.168.16.3:25
1tym.chollian.net:203.252.5.27::4196
tcpserver: end 49682 status
256
tcpserver: status: 0/40
tcpserver: status: 1/40
tcpserver: pid
49684 from 203.252.5.27
tcpserver: ok 49684
flashburn-x.parview.com:192.168.16.3:25
1tym.chollian.net:203.252.5.27::2942
tcpserver: end 49684 status
256
tcpserver: status: 0/40
tcpserver: status: 1/40
tcpserver: pid
49687 from 203.252.5.27
tcpserver: ok 49687
flashburn-x.parview.com:192.168.16.3:25
1tym.chollian.net:203.252.5.27::3538
tcpserver: end 49687 status
256
tcpserver: status: 0/40
tcpserver: status: 1/40
tcpserver: pid
49689 from 203.252.5.27
tcpserver: ok 49689
flashburn-x.parview.com:192.168.16.3:25
1tym.chollian.net:203.252.5.27::4324
tcpserver: end 49689 status
256
tcpserver: status: 0/40
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:56:42PM -0500, Jesse Sunday wrote:
> Hello all, just noticed these in my logs (over and over again) -
> I eventually denied all ip access (incoming) - Have any of you seen this
> before??? What was happening??? Below are the contents of my 'maillog'
This may (or may not) be an indication for someone trying to inject
tons of SPAM to your server. Your server rejects them and so no
"new messages" are generated.
qmail-smtpd doesn't log anything (besides severe failures) so you won't
see anything unless you patch your qmail-smtpd.
Another solution is to plug recordio (from the uscpi-tcp package)
between tcpserver and qmail-smtpd, but then you will see *everthing*
in the communication between your smtpd and any other.
I have a patch, that one can plug recordio permanently but it will
only be logging, if the RECORDIO environment variable is set (which can
be easily accomplished via tcpserver). I find this very handy if you
want to only trace connections from special IPs.
I checked, the patch is for 0.84 and will not work with 0.88.
\Maex
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When someone sends email to a dot-qmail alias I have specified in
~alias/, the message shows up twice in the msg-log created by
queue_extra.
Question is, is there a filter to get rid of this. Or have I misconfigured.
BACKGROUND: The qmail source was modified as instructed by
the qmail-howto (among other things). ~alias/msg-log is actually
a symbolic link which points to /var/allmail/INBOX. /var/allmail
is on a seperate fixed disk.
Nathan Harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When someone sends email to a dot-qmail alias I have specified in
> ~alias/, the message shows up twice in the msg-log created by
> queue_extra.
>
> Question is, is there a filter to get rid of this. Or have I misconfigured.
What does the .qmail file contain? If it has any forward entries, it will
get re-injected and delivered to msglog again.
Charles
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:11:48PM -0500, Nathan Harmon wrote:
> When someone sends email to a dot-qmail alias I have specified in
> ~alias/, the message shows up twice in the msg-log created by
> queue_extra.
>
> Question is, is there a filter to get rid of this. Or have I misconfigured.
I bet the ~alias/.qmail files in question forward mail to other
addresses. Follow along:
qmail-inject foo
|
v
qmail-queue -------> msg-log
|
v
qmail-local (foo)
|
v
qmail-queue (for forwarded mail) -----> msg-log
...
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Nathan Harmon wrote:
> When someone sends email to a dot-qmail alias I have specified in
> ~alias/, the message shows up twice in the msg-log created by
> queue_extra.
>
> Question is, is there a filter to get rid of this. Or have I misconfigured.
>
> BACKGROUND: The qmail source was modified as instructed by
> the qmail-howto (among other things). ~alias/msg-log is actually
> a symbolic link which points to /var/allmail/INBOX. /var/allmail
> is on a seperate fixed disk.
Show us the exact line(s) you changed in the source.
Show us the contents of the relevant ~alias/.qmail-XXXX file.
Show us the exact details of the symlink mentioned above (are you sure
that's what you did, because you make no mention of ~alias/.qmail-log,
or similar, AND a .qmail file can't just be a symlink to a mailbox).
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Regards
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http://www.e-smith.org (development) http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
Phone: +1 613 368 4398 Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada
"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Sorry, should have been more specific.
root@mail:~ > cat /usr/src/qmail-1.03/extra.h
#ifndef EXTRA_H
#define EXTRA_H
#define QUEUE_EXTRA "Tlog\0"
#define QUEUE_EXTRALEN 5
#endif
root@mail:~ > ls -l ~alias/msg-log
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root qmail 18 Dec 14 14:46 /var/qmail/alias/msg-log ->
/var/allmail/INBOX
root@mail:~ > cat ~alias/.qmail-log
./msg-log
root@mail:~ > ls -l /var/allmail/INBOX
-rw-rw---- 1 allmail nofiles 2325 Dec 15 13:49 /var/allmail/INBOX
For example, if I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the message will appear
twice in /var/allmail/INBOX. I'm assuming this is because it is recording the
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as well as the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, I've pondered changing the QUEUE_EXTRA to something that would
copy the mail directly to ~alias/msg-log. But I'm not a programmer (or even a
very good one at that), so I tend to ask permission before messing with sources
*snicker*.
I'm also going to be running ezmlm mailing lists on here. Will I have the same
problem with those?
Let me know if you need additional information.
Thanks.
Nathan
At 12/15/00 3:27:00 PM, you wrote:
>Show us the exact line(s) you changed in the source.
>
>Show us the contents of the relevant ~alias/.qmail-XXXX file.
>
>Show us the exact details of the symlink mentioned above (are you sure
>that's what you did, because you make no mention of ~alias/.qmail-log,
>or similar, AND a .qmail file can't just be a symlink to a mailbox).
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Nathan Harmon wrote:
> Sorry, should have been more specific.
>
> root@mail:~ > cat /usr/src/qmail-1.03/extra.h
> #ifndef EXTRA_H
> #define EXTRA_H
>
> #define QUEUE_EXTRA "Tlog\0"
> #define QUEUE_EXTRALEN 5
>
> #endif
> root@mail:~ > ls -l ~alias/msg-log
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root qmail 18 Dec 14 14:46 /var/qmail/alias/msg-log ->
>/var/allmail/INBOX
> root@mail:~ > cat ~alias/.qmail-log
> ./msg-log
> root@mail:~ > ls -l /var/allmail/INBOX
> -rw-rw---- 1 allmail nofiles 2325 Dec 15 13:49 /var/allmail/INBOX
>
>
>
> For example, if I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the message will appear
> twice in /var/allmail/INBOX. I'm assuming this is because it is recording the
> message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as well as the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No. What you have above looks kosher. The message should be delivered to
spock and log. There is no message re-injection happening so the
extra.c code is only ever called once.
Can you show us the relevant log entries (don't massage them at all,
please).
>
> Now, I've pondered changing the QUEUE_EXTRA to something that would
> copy the mail directly to ~alias/msg-log. But I'm not a programmer (or even a
> very good one at that), so I tend to ask permission before messing with sources
> *snicker*.
There should be no need to do that.
>
> I'm also going to be running ezmlm mailing lists on here. Will I have the same
> problem with those?
Hopefully not if you've made the changes correctly.
--
Regards
Peter
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Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.e-smith.org (development) http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
Phone: +1 613 368 4398 Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada
"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Hrmmm.
I can't recreate the problem. I think something (or someone else) must
have fixed it. Weird.
Anyway, get this. Now ezmlm is giving me the trouble.
I know this isn't an ezmlm list, but let me run it by some of you and
maybe you can tell me if this is being caused by a qmail problem or
an ezmlm problem.
I created a mailing list called testlist by doing the following...
As root, I su'ed to alias, then ran the following command
/usr/local/bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-make ~/testlist ~/.qmail-testlist testlist mbandt.com
Then I subsequently did the following
/usr/local/bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-sub ~/testlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/local/bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-sub ~/testlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Both of these users exist on the syste in their own nature (nathan.harmon is
the actual username in /etc/passwd).
Now, when use Outlook to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the
message arrives just fine for nathan.harmon and nathan. Problem is, if I
look at /var/allmail/INBOX (reference from my previous posts), the
message shows up twice.
--- FROM /var/allmail/INBOX ---
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 15 21:52:43 2000
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 5956 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2000 21:52:43 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO EDP6) (192.100.100.22)
by 192.100.100.198 with SMTP; 15 Dec 2000 21:52:43 -0000
Message-ID: <006401c066e2$2a962960$166464c0@EDP6>
From: "Nathan Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TEST
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:58:32 -0500
Organization: Monroe Bank & Trust
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 1
TEST
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 15 21:52:44 2000
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 5963 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2000 21:52:43 -0000
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 5956 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2000 21:52:43 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO EDP6) (192.100.100.22)
by 192.100.100.198 with SMTP; 15 Dec 2000 21:52:43 -0000
Message-ID: <006401c066e2$2a962960$166464c0@EDP6>
From: "Nathan Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TEST
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:58:32 -0500
Organization: Monroe Bank & Trust
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 2
TEST
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:12:22PM -0500, Nathan Harmon wrote:
> Now, when use Outlook to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the
> message arrives just fine for nathan.harmon and nathan. Problem is, if I
> look at /var/allmail/INBOX (reference from my previous posts), the
> message shows up twice.
Surely it does.
The first is a copy of the email you've sent via outlook.
The second is a copy of the email ezmlm injected for distribution.
\Maex
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I've got a bunch of virtual domains that I manage and I was wondering if
it would be possible to do the following. Basically, I don't want to
have to create root, postmaster, hostmaster, etc... aliases for each of
the virtual domains.
Ideally, I'd like them to be handled by the default ~alias/.qmail-xxx
aliases on the system.
I guess this would be analagous to putting something like the following
at the top of your sendmail/postfix virtualdomains/virtuserstable:
root root@localhost
Is something like this possible under qmail?
Thanks in advance...
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phone: 703.599.6023 || matter of life or death...
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|| than that!
Jerry A! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got a bunch of virtual domains that I manage and I was wondering if
> it would be possible to do the following. Basically, I don't want to
> have to create root, postmaster, hostmaster, etc... aliases for each of
> the virtual domains.
[...]
> I guess this would be analagous to putting something like the following
> at the top of your sendmail/postfix virtualdomains/virtuserstable:
> root root@localhost
>
> Is something like this possible under qmail?
Yes, although root is a bad example. qmail doesn't deliver to root, ever,
as a security measure.
Just put a forwarding directive in your ~alias/.qmail-* entries:
&user@localdomain
You'll typically have a line like this for each of
~alias/.qmail-{root,postmaster,...}
Charles
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Ok, by checking the logs I've determined that from
certain clients (namely a command-line DOS smtp mailer we use) the smtp
connection ends before getting any data, with the following message
in /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/current:
tcpserver: end xxx status 256
When using Outlook Express, which is successful,
this message winds up in the log:
tcpserver: end xxx status 0
Simple question: where can I find out what the end
statuses provided by tcpserver mean?
TIA
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i'd like ~joe/.qmail to be ignored by qmail. i don't want qmail to check
if ~joe exists at all. instead, i'd like /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-joe to
be the only file consulted.
i put this line in /var/qmail/users/assign:
=joe:alias:81:81:/var/qmail/alias:-:joe:
but qmail-newu complains:
msg# /var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu
qmail-newu: fatal: bad format in users/assign
what am i doing wrong?
---Matt
Hi all...
I'm in the process of proposing a shift off our current (almost working :))
email system to qmail and have stumbled upon a small but significant
problem.
Our IT manager is a non-techi and as such is always looking for the, MS
solution... I'm the only *nix guy in the department and have successfully
convinced him to move DNS/WEB/Cache/DHCP over to *nix, phew !!! (email is
next)
The IT manager likes throwing "What happens if you get hit by a bus" at
me... well, I get hit by a bus and not a single soul in our IT department
can do any Qmail admin.
I'd be happy to train them up but I need to also know that commercial
support is available in Australia... This is the clincher !!!
Cheers
Dennis
If you don't need it to be onsite support, then does it matter where
the support comes from? I'm sure a number of the support orgs on
www.qmail.org are happy to offer remote support contracts.
Regards.
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:50:00AM +1100, Dennis wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> I'm in the process of proposing a shift off our current (almost working :))
> email system to qmail and have stumbled upon a small but significant
> problem.
>
> Our IT manager is a non-techi and as such is always looking for the, MS
> solution... I'm the only *nix guy in the department and have successfully
> convinced him to move DNS/WEB/Cache/DHCP over to *nix, phew !!! (email is
> next)
>
> The IT manager likes throwing "What happens if you get hit by a bus" at
> me... well, I get hit by a bus and not a single soul in our IT department
> can do any Qmail admin.
>
> I'd be happy to train them up but I need to also know that commercial
> support is available in Australia... This is the clincher !!!
>
>
> Cheers
> Dennis
>
Hi Mark...
As I mentioned...
If I get hit by a bus the other guys no NOTHING of unix, NOTHING !!!!
The picture is starting to become clearer now huh :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Delany [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, 16 December 2000 11:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Qmail support in Australia ?
>
>
> If you don't need it to be onsite support, then does it matter where
> the support comes from? I'm sure a number of the support orgs on
> www.qmail.org are happy to offer remote support contracts.
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:50:00AM +1100, Dennis wrote:
> > Hi all...
> >
> > I'm in the process of proposing a shift off our current (almost
> working :))
> > email system to qmail and have stumbled upon a small but significant
> > problem.
> >
> > Our IT manager is a non-techi and as such is always looking for the, MS
> > solution... I'm the only *nix guy in the department and have
> successfully
> > convinced him to move DNS/WEB/Cache/DHCP over to *nix, phew !!!
> (email is
> > next)
> >
> > The IT manager likes throwing "What happens if you get hit by a bus" at
> > me... well, I get hit by a bus and not a single soul in our IT
> department
> > can do any Qmail admin.
> >
> > I'd be happy to train them up but I need to also know that commercial
> > support is available in Australia... This is the clincher !!!
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dennis
> >
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:50:00AM +1100, Dennis wrote:
>The IT manager likes throwing "What happens if you get hit by a bus" at
I'd answer that question with "Another tech follows my documentation".
If you document the common tasks you're doing for day-to-day maintenance
and operations, it's really not a problem... QMail runs very well at a
lot of places that don't have QMail experts working there... If you get
hit by a bus *AND* a QMail emergency comes up, you can either refer them
to, or have in place an agreement with one or more of the consultants
listed on www.qmail.org (shameless plug ;-).
On the one hand, the question of relying on something you can't support
is legitimate. On the other hand, I think it's often used as an excuse.
Just because the software you select runs under MS doesn't mean that
one of the existing techs can just pick it up and deal with it, without
a similar learning curve to doing the same sort of thing for QMail.
That, of course, depends on the level of automation, documentation,
and their willingness to work with something new.
As an example, a few years ago we were called in to manage a group of
machines in an emergency. The Unix systems posed basicly the same
amount of problem as the Windows machines (except that the Unix machines
never crashed on us ;-). The Unix machines were running Roxen where
I only had experience with Apache, so it was a learning experience all
the way around. In this case, we effectively had no access to their
existing techs, and there was no documentation other than passwords.
Sean
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I'm attempting to get qmail interfaced with the MAPS lists -- the RBL, the
DUL, and the RSS.
I'm using tcpserver to control unauthorized connectivity and all that good
stuff. rblsmtpd has been patched to fix the lack-of-TXT-records issue with
RSS (the Alan Curry patch at http://itcentrx.com/mirrors/qmail/ucspi-rss.diff).
Below, on one line, is my tcpserver invoking qmail-smtpd.
The following notes are in order:
1) Relay works properly. I can relay from my IPs, but outside IPs can not
relay.
2) In and out delivery works properly. I can receive mail via the daemon,
and when I send mail via the daemon, it is delivered properly.
3) RBL/RSS/DUL does not work, as validated by the test daemons at crynwr.
I would appreciate it if yall could take a look and see where I've screwed up.
Thank you most kindly.
ag
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp.cdb -u 1004 -g 2108 0
smtp /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -r "blackholes.mail-abuse.org
dialups.mail-abuse.org 'relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see
<URL:http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?
%IP%>'" /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \ 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Aaron Goldblatt wrote:
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp.cdb -u 1004 -g 2108 0
> smtp /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -r "blackholes.mail-abuse.org
> dialups.mail-abuse.org 'relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see
> <URL:http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?
> %IP%>'" /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \ 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
I don't use mail-abuse.org, but I think it's supposed to be like:
... rblsmtpd -r "blackholes.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see
<URL:http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%>" \
-r "dialups.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see
<URL:http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%>" \
-r "relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see
<URL:http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%>" \
ie one check per "-r".
Rick.
>ie one check per "-r".
That indeed seems to have resolved the issue. Thank you muchly.
ag
Hi all...
I've had this problem for a few weeks now.
Qmail keeps tripple bouncing, it then says it's deleted the email, message
from a host not it rcphosts, cool...
Only problem, it's been doing it for 3 weeks now.
Any suggestions ?
Cheers
Dennis
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 06:48:43PM +1100, Dennis wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> I've had this problem for a few weeks now.
>
> Qmail keeps tripple bouncing, it then says it's deleted the email, message
> from a host not it rcphosts, cool...
>
> Only problem, it's been doing it for 3 weeks now.
>
> Any suggestions ?
What do the logs say?
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On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 06:58:08PM +1100, Dennis wrote:
> the standard "Unable to deliver message because host is not in my rcphosts
> file" ...
> then it tripple bounces and deletes the message but it reappears after
> 20mins or so...
Insufficient, we need to see the logs; they describe the precise
movement of messages through the qmail system.
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